[ovirt-devel] [Devel] Edit running vm feature

[Omer Frenkel]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> To: "Kobi Ianko" <kobi at redhat.com>
> Cc: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>, devel at ovirt.org
> Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:10:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kobi Ianko" <kobi at redhat.com>
> > To: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> > Cc: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>, devel at ovirt.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:05:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> > 
> > [top posting]
> > To make things easier for the user we could enable the immediate fields
> > while
> > the VM is up, all other field could be disabled until the VM is down, since
> > they will only apply in the next run (the user will need update them while
> > the VM is down).
> > This will be super easy for the user to understand, no need for warnings or
> > other indications.
> > 
> 
> iiuc this is the feature: to enable to edit fields while the VM is up.

exactly

> for my other 2 previous comments:
> - the table can be shared by several maintainers
> - it would be _very_ nice to cross possible actions with MLA (really useful
> in userportal).
> 

i dont see the motivation to create a static table that will be outdated the second its done.
i dont have a way to auto generate it, and i wouldnt want to try and update it all the time.

> 
> >  
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> > > To: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>
> > > Cc: devel at ovirt.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:04:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>
> > > > To: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: "Scott Herold" <sherold at redhat.com>, devel at ovirt.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 2:02:49 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> > > > > To: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>
> > > > > Cc: "Scott Herold" <sherold at redhat.com>, devel at ovirt.org
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:54:35 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> > > > > 
> > > > > [top posting]
> > > > 
> > > > [why?]
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1) Is there a table of all the fields in the dialog, and the
> > > > > capabilities?
> > > > 
> > > > no
> > > 
> > > Can we have one?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 2) there are cases in which the user would like to decide (or maybe
> > > > > he
> > > > > doesn't have permissions to do it): i.e. hot-plug: immediate or next
> > > > > run;
> > > > > (future) pin 2 host, now (now = invoke migration), or next run.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > this is exactly why we have the dialog (there is a mockup in the wiki)
> > > > the dialog will specify the fields that the user can decide upon and
> > > > let
> > > > him
> > > > choose.
> > > 
> > > Realized that post sending the email, sorry for missing that... :-/
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>
> > > > > > To: "Scott Herold" <sherold at redhat.com>
> > > > > > Cc: devel at ovirt.org
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:15:11 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Scott Herold" <sherold at redhat.com>
> > > > > > > To: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>
> > > > > > > Cc: devel at ovirt.org
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 6:24:43 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1) In the event some items can be applied immediately, while
> > > > > > > others
> > > > > > > require
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > restart, would it be possible to highlight not only the immediate
> > > > > > > items,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > also state which items won't take affect immediately?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > the problem is that most fields won't take affect immediately,
> > > > > > so it can be a long list, so i preferred not to specify all in this
> > > > > > dialog.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 2) On the restart action, is it a simple VM reboot, or does it
> > > > > > > need
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > cold boot for the changes? (ie: Power Off VM, Power On VM)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > it has to be cold boot, as engine need to send new configuration to
> > > > > > vdsm.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Omer Frenkel" <ofrenkel at redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > To: devel at ovirt.org
> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:05:05 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [Devel] Edit running vm feature
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Edit running vm feature is targeted to 3.5
> > > > > > > > The feature would allow editing a vm while it is running.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Please review the feature page and share your thoughts:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Edit_Running_VM
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > Omer.
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