[Engine-devel] Share Your Thoughts

Omer Frenkel ofrenkel at redhat.com
Sun Mar 23 13:35:28 UTC 2014



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika at redhat.com>
> To: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 2:41:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Share Your Thoughts
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eli Mesika" <emesika at redhat.com>
> > To: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> > Cc: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 2:36:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] Share Your Thoughts
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gilad Chaplik" <gchaplik at redhat.com>
> > > To: "engine-devel" <engine-devel at ovirt.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 2:06:01 PM
> > > Subject: [Engine-devel] Share Your Thoughts
> > > 
> > > Dear Devel Community Members,
> > > 
> > > We are having a small discussion on patch:
> > > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/25633/,
> > > bug 1065753 - "Maintenance operations on a VM would ask for an optional
> > > reason" (adding a note to stop/shutdown VM, that will be cleared when the
> > > VM
> > > go up).
> > > 
> > > The proposed solution is to add a free text field in the VM entity, and
> > > to
> > > update it in command's parameters (StopVmParmas.. etc.).
> > > 
> > > I think slightly different, my alternative is to enhance the current free
> > > text (comment field) into XML, and allow to add multiple comments that
> > > include types.
> > > You are welcome to read more about it in the patch's comments.
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > 
> > I suggest a third approach
> > We are logging here a reason for a user/admin operation
> > The natural place for such information is the audit log and not the VM
> > tables.
> > I think that the audit log messages related for the stop/shutdown commands
> > should be enhanced to include a {REASON} field then the command itself will
> > replace this value in the message with the one given by the user and we are
> > done.
> > Again, the required information is a pure logging issue, therefor I suggest
> > to put this information in the correct place for it, there is no point in
> > saving any logging messages in any entity table.
> > 
> > Technically:
> > 1) The option for giving a reason should be configurable (per Cluster if I
> > look at Arthur comment in the BZ)
> > 2) If the option is on than any stop/shutdown will ask for reason and sent
> > it
> > in the command parameters
> than=>then
> > 3) If the command succeed and got a non-empty reason , it will set the
> > reason
> > in the command audit log message
> > 
> 
> 4) We gain here additional advantage since we can :
>    a) search for the reason using the search engine
>    b) get the reason in the message text sent to us if we are subscribed for
>    the VM stop/shotdown event ans using engine-notifier
> 
> > 
> > Eli
> > 

+1 
sounds like a good and simple idea

> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gilad.
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