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    FYI... Feedback about geo-replication user flows - thanks to Ju.
    (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience">http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience</a>).<br>
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    thanks<br>
    sahina<br>
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            <td>Re: Geo-replication user flows</td>
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            <td>Tue, 16 Sep 2014 13:49:17 -0400</td>
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            <td>Ju Lim <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:julim@redhat.com">&lt;julim@redhat.com&gt;</a></td>
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      Hi Sahina:
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      <div>Thanks for getting back to me. &nbsp;I took away 3 action items
        from the email:</div>
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          <div><font face="Arial">Geo-replication session configuration
              options mockup -- we're working on putting something
              together</font></div>
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            <div><font face="Arial">Dashboard - what&nbsp;to show in the
                dashboard;&nbsp;</font><span style="font-family: Arial; ">we're
                working on putting something together</span></div>
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          <div><font face="Arial">Checkpoint history - what to show.
              &nbsp;Here's what I believe you should show:</font></div>
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              <li><font face="Arial">show what you would get from the "<span
                    style="background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245);
                    line-height: 18.2000007629395px; orphans: 4;
                    text-align: left; white-space: pre-wrap; widows: 4;
                    "># gluster volume geo-replication
                    &lt;source_volume&gt;
                    &lt;destination_host&gt;::&lt;destination_volume&gt;
                    config log-file | xargs grep checkpoint" command</span></font></li>
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                    face="Arial">show the following columns (I'll assume
                    you don't need a mockup as this most likely would be
                    shown in a table)</font></span></li>
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                    "><font face="Arial">checkpoint name, checkpoint
                      creation date, amount of data transferred
                      (indicate if delta or cumulative size), status</font></span></li>
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            <div>Please feel free to forward to oVirt users.</div>
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      <div>Thanks,</div>
      <div>Ju</div>
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          <div>On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:01 AM, Sahina Bose &lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sabose@redhat.com">sabose@redhat.com</a>&gt;
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Ju,<br>
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              Thanks for the detailed feedback. My responses inline.<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/11/2014 01:24 AM, Ju
                Lim wrote:<br>
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                    face="Arial">Sahina:</font></span>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">I
                    finally had some time to review the Geo-replication
                    proposal on&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience"
                      style="line-height: 15px; ">http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication#User_Experience</a>.</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
                  </font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Will we
                    have a tab (sibling to Volumes, Clusters, etc.) for
                    Replication Sessions so a user can see all
                    Geo-Replication Sessions in 1 place vs. looking into
                    every volume to identify them? &nbsp;I see later a
                    question asked about it. &nbsp;+1 that we need a
                    "Geo-Replication Sessions" or "Geo-Replication" in
                    the main tab.</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">This tab would be empty if there are no
                replication sessions.<br>
                But having a tab will all replication sessions would be
                useful and could be used to start a new one.<br>
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                &nbsp;<br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Is
                    there a proposal yet for what we'll show related to
                    replication in the dashboard?</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">No, no proposal yet.<br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the
                    Geo-Replication detail tab (in the Volume main
                    tab),&nbsp;</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Should
                    the action be "New" or "Create Session"? &nbsp;Reason I
                    ask is that it's "Create Volume" vs. "New Volume" in
                    the master area.</font></div>
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              We are trying to be consistent with the verbs..and have
              changed to Volume -&gt; New for creating a volume. So it
              should be "New Session" IMO<br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the
                    Create Session / New, can we use the same dialog
                    whether it's coming from the&nbsp;Geo-Replication detail
                    tab (in the Volume main tab) and the
                    "Geo-Replication Sessions" main tab?</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">The
                    only difference is that the one from the main tab
                    would additionally ask the source (host / IP Address
                    + volume). &nbsp;For the detail tab, instead of prompting
                    for the source, we can show it.</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">Yes, it can be the same dialog. The
                information regarding source volume would be prefilled
                if it's coming from the geo-replication sub-tab.<br>
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                  </font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the
                    Destination (or Remote) Cluster Volumes, can the
                    destination volume be of a different volume type to
                    participate in geo-replication?</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">Destination volume can be of a
                different volume type.</font><br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
                  </font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">For the
                    Geo-Replication Session Options, can we make the
                    configuration options (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Storage/2.1/html/Administration_Guide/chap-User_Guide-Geo_Rep-Starting-Configure.html">https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Storage/2.1/html/Administration_Guide/chap-User_Guide-Geo_Rep-Starting-Configure.html</a>)&nbsp;more

                    usable vs. cryptic as it currently seems?
                    &nbsp;Specifically, can we showcase the defaults and
                    provide the rest as Advanced configurations that
                    they can change?</font></div>
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              We were planning to have a UI similar to the volume
              options. Do let us know, if there's a better way to do
              this.<br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">The
                    Geo-Replication Session Details view -- I'm not sure
                    what this is telling the user other then how long
                    the host has been up. &nbsp;Does this mean that
                    replication has been running for as long as the
                    uptime for those hosts? &nbsp;It seems to be missing
                    Checkpoint information and Checkpoint history
                    information, which is important for geo-replication
                    consistency.</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
                  </font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Specifically,

                    when I think of what is typically shown in a
                    geo-replication session, I'd expect to see the
                    following columns of information:</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
                  </font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">&nbsp;
                    &nbsp;Source Volume, Destination / Remote Volume, Status,
                    Last Checkpoint, Last Checkpoint Label</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
                  </font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">If
                    different volume types can be used within the same
                    replication session, then we would also want to show
                    the volume type on the remote volume.</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">Session details view will also show
                information on files/bytes skipped, moved</font> etc per
              brick node.<br>
              <br>
              Regarding checkpoint, there's currently only a checkpoint
              status being shown. There's some enhancements to be done
              in gluster geo-rep with regards to checkpoints<br>
              <br>
              What information would need to be shown in checkpoint
              history?<br>
              <br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">BTW, do
                    you know if there are plans to show volume size
                    (total, used, available/remaining) in the Volume
                    master area?</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">Yes, we have introduced a volume
                capacity column in the Volumes tab, which will show
                these details.<br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Is
                    there any possibility to change the terminology from
                    master-slave to source-destination, source-remote,
                    master-remote? &nbsp;The master-slave terminology is
                    quite unusual in the storage replication realm. &nbsp;I
                    ask as I see docs, CLI, etc. that already use the
                    master-slave terminology.</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">We could change in the docs and
                UI...CLI, not so sure.<br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">We're
                    happy to put together mockups and/or a proposal if
                    it would be helpful. &nbsp;Is this the best way to
                    provide input, or should I be posting my comments
                    on&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.ovirt.org/Talk:Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication">http://www.ovirt.org/Talk:Features/Gluster_Geo_Replication</a>?</font></div>
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              <font face="Arial">If you have suggestions on showing the
                configuration options and for the dashboard, that would
                be welcome.<br>
                I could forward this to ovirt users for wider
                circulation.<br>
                <br>
                thanks!<br>
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                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Please
                    advise.</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial"><br>
                  </font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Thanks,</font></div>
                <div><font style="font-size: 13px;" face="Arial">Ju</font></div>
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                  <div>On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Sahina Bose &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    The user experience section <a
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                    , has been updated to capture the user flows. (The
                    mockups, however, are older and do not completely
                    reflect the updated text)<br>
                    <br>
                    There are couple of open questions. Please review
                    and provide suggestions.<br>
                    <br>
                    thanks<br>
                    sahina<br>
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