<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:12 AM, Tomas Jelinek <<a href="mailto:tjelinek@redhat.com" class="">tjelinek@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">----- Original Message -----</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">From: "Nir Soffer" <<a href="mailto:nsoffer@redhat.com" class="">nsoffer@redhat.com</a>><br class="">To: "Michal Skrivanek" <<a href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" class="">mskrivan@redhat.com</a>><br class="">Cc: "devel" <<a href="mailto:devel@ovirt.org" class="">devel@ovirt.org</a>>, "board" <<a href="mailto:board@ovirt.org" class="">board@ovirt.org</a>><br class="">Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:00:05 PM<br class="">Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [Call for Vote] moVirt as a Full oVirt Project<br class=""><br class="">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Michal Skrivanek <<a href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" class="">mskrivan@redhat.com</a>><br class="">wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 21 Nov 2016, at 19:48, Vojtech Szocs <<a href="mailto:vszocs@redhat.com" class="">vszocs@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----- Original Message -----<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From: "Eyal Edri" <<a href="mailto:eedri@redhat.com" class="">eedri@redhat.com</a>><br class="">To: "Vojtech Szocs" <<a href="mailto:vszocs@redhat.com" class="">vszocs@redhat.com</a>><br class="">Cc: "Barak Korren" <<a href="mailto:bkorren@redhat.com" class="">bkorren@redhat.com</a>>, "devel" <<a href="mailto:devel@ovirt.org" class="">devel@ovirt.org</a>>,<br class="">"board" <<a href="mailto:board@ovirt.org" class="">board@ovirt.org</a>>, "Michal Skrivanek"<br class=""><<a href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" class="">mskrivan@redhat.com</a>><br class="">Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:23:44 PM<br class="">Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [Call for Vote] moVirt as a Full oVirt Project<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 8:17 PM, Vojtech Szocs <<a href="mailto:vszocs@redhat.com" class="">vszocs@redhat.com</a>><br class="">wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----- Original Message -----<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">From: "Barak Korren" <<a href="mailto:bkorren@redhat.com" class="">bkorren@redhat.com</a>><br class="">To: "Brian Proffitt" <<a href="mailto:bproffit@redhat.com" class="">bproffit@redhat.com</a>><br class="">Cc: "Michal Skrivanek" <<a href="mailto:mskrivan@redhat.com" class="">mskrivan@redhat.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:board@ovirt.org" class="">board@ovirt.org</a>, "devel"<br class=""><<br class=""></blockquote><a href="mailto:devel@ovirt.org" class="">devel@ovirt.org</a>><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:01:08 PM<br class="">Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [Call for Vote] moVirt as a Full oVirt<br class="">Project<br class=""><br class="">-1<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">I wonder if 8x +1 beats one -1 :)<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">9X :-)<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">adding my obviously biased +1, so not sure if it counts...</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="">+1 for including the project as is.<br class=""><br class="">If someone wants to run the project test or build it, the right way<br class="">to vote is by sending patches and making it happen.<br class=""><br class="">I think we should get out of our gerrit silo and move all ovirt<br class="">projects to github. This will give ovirt much better visibility.<br class=""><br class="">Here are some projects developed on github:<br class=""><a href="https://github.com/systemd/systemd" class="">https://github.com/systemd/systemd</a><br class=""><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/" class="">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/</a><br class=""><a href="https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes" class="">https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes</a><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">I would add also<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a href="https://github.com/ManageIQ/" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://github.com/ManageIQ/</a><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>which we as oVirt devels are contributing to regularly.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div><a href="https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit" class="">https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit</a></div><div><a href="https://github.com/OpenShift" class="">https://github.com/OpenShift</a></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class="">Nir<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Not because of anything with the project itself - I think it is<br class="">genuinely awesome, but because I expect a project that emerges out of<br class="">the incubation process to "look" like an oVirt project, by which I<br class="">mean:<br class="">1. Have the code in the oVirt Gerrit<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">I wonder why that would be required. We experimented with other projects<br class="">being off gerrit as well(e.g. cockpit-ovirt) and bug tracking out of<br class="">redhat bugzilla and for certain projcts it makes sense. With more<br class="">integration with other upstream projects I see us moving to github even<br class="">more...<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">2. Have tests and builds running on oVirt's CI system.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">Can we run mobile testing on current infra?<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We are using travis for this. Our complete config file is:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">language: android</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">script: "./gradlew build"</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">android:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> components:</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> - platforms-tools</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> - tools</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> - build-tools-21.1.2</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=""> - android-21</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We don't have any additional tooling developed or anything like that.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">If we will start thinking about doing some custom/complicated stuff, we</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">may consider moving to ovirt's CI. Currently, I don't see a reason.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">3. Have artefacts served from oVirt's mirrors.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">What artifacts? The final APK? Why? It's not a yum repo.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We need to serve them using google play store so it will reach the users easily.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">We could serve also RPM packaged APKs<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">or even create our alternative "something like play store" but Im not sure what benefits<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">it would bring us.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">4. Have bugs tracked in oVirt's bugzilla.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">No<br class="">That should never be imposed on any new project. If someone loves slow<br class="">outdated tools, so be it, but for new projects I again do not see us<br class="">promoting it in future<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">+1</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Well, long story short, moVirt is a simple small tool developed by a very small team</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">and occasionally contributed by community (mostly as outreachy interns or intern candidates).<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It needs a swift, stable, minimal and well known tooling around which does exactly what we need.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">The current combination of github for code and issue tracking + travis for simple CI<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">served us fantastically. I'm quite against moving to other place just because it may bring<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">some benefits in the future.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">For 1 and 4, I feel that the benefit of allowing some projects to be<br class="">hosted<br class="">on GitHub (attract & involve community through GitHub's public service)<br class="">does<br class="">out-weigh the rule of strict consistency (have everything in oVirt<br class="">Gerrit).<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>Any project in oVirt gerrit can be mirrored to GitHub, and most of them<br class="">are<br class="">( see <a href="http://github.com/oVirt" class="">github.com/oVirt</a> )<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">We do mirror it IIRC (or it may have been cockpit-ovirt), it's just the<br class="">other way around - the master copy is at github<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Although, not sure how hard would it be to modify oVirt CI system to<br class="">allow<br class="">building GitHub hosted projects.<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">We are supporting it, Lago is an example of such project.<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">The guidelines should be clear about whether a project must be hosted<br class="">via<br class="">oVirt Gerrit, whether it must have its bugs tracked via oVirt Bugzilla,<br class="">etc.<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I don't think its a must, but its highly recommended IMO, and will help<br class="">the<br class="">project grow.<br class="">Imagine this scenario:<br class=""><br class="">the project grows and uses its own CI/testing frameworks and reaches a<br class="">point it wants to join the oVirt eco-system,<br class="">At that point it will be much harder to integrate it if at all, assuming<br class="">the tools he's been using were not aligned with<br class="">the tooling other projects are using.<br class=""><br class="">Also - in terms of release process, its will be very hard to include it<br class="">in<br class="">an official oVirt release if he wishes to do so,<br class="">as all oVirt projects are built in the current infra and shipped as a<br class="">single repository.<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><br class="">You're missing the point it's not a yum repo.<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Eyal, I agree with your points.<br class=""><br class="">I just wanted to point out the possibility of hosting project's<br class="">sources on GitHub (point 1 from Barak's list). And as you wrote,<br class="">Lago is a good example of such project.<br class=""><br class="">Using standard oVirt CI infra & tools (points 2 & 3 from Barak's<br class="">list) should be mandatory for all oVirt projects, to keep things<br class="">manageable from build/release perspective. Full agreement here.<br class=""><br class="">As for bug tracking (point 4 from Barak's list), I see Lago using<br class="">GitHub's issue tracking interface, so this should be OK too..<br class=""><br class="">In general, I'd say that moVirt maintainers should clearly voice<br class="">their vision on converging (or not) towards points 1,2,3,4 that<br class="">Barak has mentioned in his email.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I would say no. And that is fine<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">For me, having source code & issues on GitHub, but using standard<br class="">oVirt CI infra & tools, is still acceptable for an oVirt project,<br class="">but it's just my own opinion.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">I agree we can mix and match, though in this case I'm not sure how<br class="">realistic is to run CI for an APK<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On 21 November 2016 at 19:07, Brian Proffitt <<a href="mailto:bproffit@redhat.com" class="">bproffit@redhat.com</a>><br class=""></blockquote>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">All:<br class=""><br class="">The moVirt Project was initially accepted as an oVirt incubator<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>project in<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">February 2015. It has been a successful subproject for quite some time<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>and<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">it is well due for being accepted as a full oVirt project. I believe<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>it is<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">appropriate to post a Call for Vote on the Devel and Board lists.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://www.ovirt.org/develop/projects/project-movirt/" class="">http://www.ovirt.org/develop/projects/project-movirt/</a><br class=""><br class="">A “healthy” project, as determined by the oVirt Board, can be found at<br class="">http://www.ovirt.org/develop/projects/adding-a-new-project/<br class=""><br class="">Voting will be open until 1200 UTC Nov. 30, 2016. A net total of +7<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>votes<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">should be received to formalize this project as an full oVirt project.<br class="">Please use the following vote process:<br class=""><br class="">+1<br class="">Yes, agree, or the action should be performed. On some issues, this<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>vote<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">must only be given after the voter has tested the action on their own<br class="">system(s).<br class=""><br class="">±0<br class="">Abstain, no opinion, or I am happy to let the other group members<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>decide<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">this issue. An abstention may have detrimental affects if too many<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>people<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">abstain.<br class=""><br class="">-1<br class="">No, I veto this action. All vetos must include an explanation of why<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>the<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">veto is appropriate. A veto with no explanation is void.<br class=""><br class="">Thank you!<br class=""><br class="">Brian Proffitt<br class="">Principal Community Analyst<br class="">Open Source and Standards<br class="">@TheTechScribe<br class="">574.383.9BKP<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Devel@ovirt.org" class="">Devel@ovirt.org</a><br class="">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Barak Korren<br class=""><a href="mailto:bkorren@redhat.com" class="">bkorren@redhat.com</a><br class="">RHEV-CI Team<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Devel mailing list<br class="">Devel@ovirt.org<br class="">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">Devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Devel@ovirt.org" class="">Devel@ovirt.org</a><br class="">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">--<br class="">Eyal Edri<br class="">Associate Manager<br class="">RHV DevOps<br class="">EMEA ENG Virtualization R&D<br class="">Red Hat Israel<br class=""><br class="">phone: +972-9-7692018<br class="">irc: eedri (on #tlv #rhev-dev #rhev-integ)<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">Devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Devel@ovirt.org" class="">Devel@ovirt.org</a><br class="">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">Devel mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Devel@ovirt.org" class="">Devel@ovirt.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel" class="">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel</a><br class=""></blockquote><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Devel mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Devel@ovirt.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Devel@ovirt.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>