<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Martin Sivak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:msivak@redhat.com" target="_blank">msivak@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-">> Right, still it is an IRC technology, and every user must set it up in order<br>
> to keep their presence (which you get out-of-the-box from above-mentioned).<br>
> Not everyone can/will do it.<br>
<br>
</span>Meaning it is federated, you can connect to any server you want and<br>
the protocol is open and dead simple + there are hundreds of clients.<br>
Including web based.. in case you did not look. The same applies to<br>
archiver services for IRC.<br>
<br>
So just setup an archive, publish the irc information + a link to web<br>
based client and you get the best of both worlds.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>"Not everyone can/will do it." It's a pain.</div><div><br></div><div>How does a web-based client with archiving work with a private IRC server behind openvpn?</div><div><br></div><div>What if the archiver fails and you miss important messages? How do you know the archiver hasn't failed?</div><div><br></div><div>Does it let you post images in the chat, where everyone (no matter their client) can see them?</div><div><br></div><div>Does it integrate with other services that people use, like trello and jira? (Can edit cards / bugs right in the chat)</div><div><br></div><div>I just want to work. I don't want to spend (waste, imo) time on rolling my own chat technology when I can connect to a website and get on with my day.</div><div><br></div><div>Just some random thoughts I had. I probably said the same stuff last time this came up.</div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div>Greg</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<br>
The only alternative that got close was Jabber (IM, groups and<br>
supports file transfers), too bad the adoption there is stagnating.<br>
<span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Martin</font></span> </blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
</font></span><div class="gmail-HOEnZb"><div class="gmail-h5"><br>
<br>
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Roy Golan <<a href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com">rgolan@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 at 11:14 Artyom Lukianov <<a href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com">alukiano@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Like an alternative to Slack or gitter, you can run ZNC server on some VM,<br>
>> that will save all messages for you.<br>
>><br>
> Right, still it is an IRC technology, and every user must set it up in order<br>
> to keep their presence (which you get out-of-the-box from above-mentioned).<br>
> Not everyone can/will do it.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Marc Young <<a href="mailto:3vilpenguin@gmail.com">3vilpenguin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Is there hope for slack over IRC?<br>
>>><br>
>>> The problem with IRC is all the connect/disconnect chatter (and offline<br>
>>> being a black hole)<br>
>>><br>
>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>> Devel mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:Devel@ovirt.org">Devel@ovirt.org</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/devel</a><br>
>></div></div></blockquote></div>
</div></div>