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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/12/2013 05:26 PM, Yuko Katabami
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/12/2013 05:23 PM, Moti Asayag
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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:03:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Engine-devel] [oVirt/RHEV 3.3 Localization Question #13] "${ENTITIES_USING_VNIC_PROFILE_COUNTER}"
On 08/12/2013 04:53 PM, Moti Asayag wrote:
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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:28:05 AM
Subject: [Engine-devel] [oVirt/RHEV 3.3 Localization Question #13]
"${ENTITIES_USING_VNIC_PROFILE_COUNTER}"
Hi all,
I would like to ask for your help again with the following questions:
File: AppErrors
Resource ID: ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_VNIC_PROFILE_IN_USE
Strings: Cannot ${action} ${type}. Several ${entities}
(${ENTITIES_USING_VNIC_PROFILE_COUNTER}) are using this VM network
interface
profile:
${ENTITIES_USING_VNIC_PROFILE}
- Please remove it from all ${entities} that are using it and try again.
Question:
Is "${ENTITIES_USING_VNIC_PROFILE_COUNTER}" representing the number of
entities using the VNIC profile?
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<pre wrap="">Yes.
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<pre wrap="">Is it always greater than 1 or could it be 1 in some cases?
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<pre wrap="">It can be 1 or greater.
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<pre wrap="">Is ${ENTITIES_USING_VNIC_PROFILE} representing the name(s) of entities
using
the the VNIC profile?
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<pre wrap="">Yes.
Here are 2 examples for the error when the vnic profile is used by one or
more vms:
A vnic profile used by a single entity:
Error while executing action: Cannot remove VM network interface profile.
Several virtual machines (1) are using this VM network interface profile:
vm1
- Please remove it from all virtual machines that are using it and try
again.
A vnic profile used by a two entities:
Error while executing action: Cannot remove VM network interface profile.
Several virtual machines (2) are using this VM network interface profile:
vm1,
vm2
- Please remove it from all virtual machines that are using it and try
again.
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<pre wrap="">Hi Moti,
Thank you very much for your answer with actual examples. It is very
helpful.
In my language, I can translate this string in a way which works whether
the entity is single or plural, but I am not sure about other supported
locales.
I will share this with other translators and if it is problematic, I
will get back to you via this mailing list.
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<pre wrap="">Please note that there are several messages that share the same format:
ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_NETWORK_IN_USE=Cannot ${action} ${type}. Several ${entities} (${ENTITIES_USING_NETWORK_COUNTER}) are using this logical network:\n${ENTITIES_USING_NETWORK}\n - Please remove it from all ${entities} that are using it and try again.
ACTION_TYPE_FAILED_PROVIDER_NETWORKS_USED=Cannot ${action} ${type}. Several external networks (${NETWORK_NAMES_COUNTER}) are being used by virtual machines and/or templates:\n${NETWORK_NAMES}\n - Please resolve the external networks usage first and try again.</pre>
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Thank you Moti for this extra information.<br>
I will also pass this onto other translators.<br>
Very much appreciated.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Yuko<br>
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Hi Moti,<br>
<br>
I have discussed with other translators and confirmed that all those
three strings in the same format are problematic for localization.<br>
The current format only works if the entity is plural.<br>
In the example (with single entity) you have given:<br>
<b><br>
</b><b>
Error while executing action: Cannot remove VM network interface
profile.</b><b><br>
</b><b>
</b><b><font color="#ff0000"><u>Several</u> </font></b><b>virtual
machine</b><b><u><font color="#ff0000">s</font></u></b><b> (1) </b><b><u><font
color="#ff0000">are</font></u></b><b> using this VM network
interface profile:</b><b><br>
</b><b>
vm1</b><b><br>
</b><b>
- Please remove it from </b><b><u><font color="#ff0000">all</font></u></b><b><u>
</u></b><b>virtual machine</b><b><u><font color="#ff0000">s</font></u></b><b>
that are using it and try again.</b><br>
<br>
1) It has the word "several" and "all" preceding the entity. Those
adjectives do not work with a singular noun in all languages, and it
grammatically wrong in English as well.<br>
2) ${entities} is shown always plural even it is singular "Virtual
Machines (1)" - this is not correct.<br>
3) Verb "are" should only be used when the
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nominative is plural<br>
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We are wondering if the English strings (all three) can be changed
to be grammatically correct.<br>
(or perhaps separate strings for singular and plural?)<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Yuko<br>
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<pre wrap="">Thank you again for your help.
Kind regards,
Yuko
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<pre wrap="">Thank you,
Yuko
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