<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 12 Jul 2016, at 09:19, Yaniv Kaul <<a href="mailto:ykaul@redhat.com" class="">ykaul@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Francesco Romani <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:fromani@redhat.com" target="_blank" class="">fromani@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br class="">
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> From: "Dan Kenigsberg" <<a href="mailto:danken@redhat.com" class="">danken@redhat.com</a>><br class="">
> To: "Nadav Goldin" <<a href="mailto:ngoldin@redhat.com" class="">ngoldin@redhat.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:fromani@redhat.com" class="">fromani@redhat.com</a><br class="">
> Cc: "Eyal Edri" <<a href="mailto:eedri@redhat.com" class="">eedri@redhat.com</a>>, "Nir Soffer" <<a href="mailto:nsoffer@redhat.com" class="">nsoffer@redhat.com</a>>, "Yaniv Kaul" <<a href="mailto:ykaul@redhat.com" class="">ykaul@redhat.com</a>>, "Martin<br class="">
> Perina" <<a href="mailto:mperina@redhat.com" class="">mperina@redhat.com</a>>, "Tolik Litovsky" <<a href="mailto:tlitovsk@redhat.com" class="">tlitovsk@redhat.com</a>>, "infra" <<a href="mailto:infra@ovirt.org" class="">infra@ovirt.org</a>><br class="">
> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2016 10:12:48 PM<br class="">
> Subject: Re: Build failed in Jenkins: ovirt_master_system-tests #243<br class="">
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</span><span class="">> On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:00:35PM +0300, Nadav Goldin wrote:<br class="">
> > Seems like [1], as ovirt-srv19 has fresh new FC24 installation,<br class="">
> > virtlogd is not enabled by default:<br class="">
> > ● virtlogd.service - Virtual machine log manager<br class="">
> > Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/virtlogd.service; indirect;<br class="">
> > vendor preset: disabled)<br class="">
> > Active: inactive (dead)<br class="">
> > Docs: man:virtlogd(8)<br class="">
> > <a href="http://libvirt.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://libvirt.org</a><br class="">
> > we can add it to puppet for now.<br class="">
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> > [1] <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1290357" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1290357</a><br class="">
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> Francesco, shouldn't vdsm require virtlogd explicitly?<br class="">
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</span>Disclaimer: I didn't read yet the rest of the thread.<br class="">
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We choose not to, trying to prevent issues:<br class="">
<a href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/55189/1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/55189/1</a><br class="">
Related-To: <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318902" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318902</a></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I thought and still do it's quite a mistake - if we think a feature of our friends from libvirt is immature - we should tell them that, hopefully accompanied by bugs.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>It’s not so much feature itself, rather it’s integration into OSes. I think there was enough feedback, a random google search shows a load of issues reported at the time this dependency was introduced, so I hope they learned from it</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">I'd like to believe they don't enable features by default unless they believe the features are mature and ready for general consumption. If that's not the case, we should talk with them.</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>IMO it was a bit hasty on their part, and we just didn’t have time to resolve all the virtlogd daemon management in RHEL and RHEVH in time</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>michal</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">Y.</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br class="">
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We want to reenable and require it in the near future:<br class="">
<a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1321010" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1321010</a><br class="">
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HTH,<br class="">
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Francesco Romani<br class="">
RedHat Engineering Virtualization R & D<br class="">
Phone: 8261328<br class="">
IRC: fromani<br class="">
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