[Kimchi-devel] New-UI Helvetica Font
Kevin Zander
klzander at linux.vnet.ibm.com
Tue Aug 11 16:31:13 UTC 2015
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 12:01 -0300, Aline Manera wrote:
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> On 10/08/2015 09:58, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
> > Hi team,
> >
> > I’m sending some screenshots to compare different fonts so we can
> > decide if we are going to replace Helvetica Neue for Open Sans
> > and/or TeXGyreHeros.
> > I also found out that Open Sans doesn’t have all the character
> > glyphs for simplified and traditional Chinese, Japanese and Korean
> > languages (wok_current.png file, you can see that these texts have
> > jagged edges). The equivalent font for these languages is called
> > Noto Sans CJK which is licensed under SIL Open Font License (OFL).
> > The downside is that Noto Sans is very heavy (~88MB each language
> > set) so we would have to figure a way to load these font files only
> > when the user has changed the locale in the front-end.
> >
> OH! Wait... The idea is to use an open source and wide used font,
> which means, Kimchi will not package any font file.
>
> Isn’t there an open source and wide used font which works with all
> languages?
http://www.cssfontstack.com/
Which of these has the best unicode support though, I cannot answer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_font#List_of_Unicode_fonts
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> > > > Thanks,
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> > > > Samuel
> > Guimaraes
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> > > > From:> >
> > Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm at linux.vnet.ibm.com]
> > ]
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> > Sent: quarta-feira, 5 de agosto de 2015 15:24
> >
> > To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
> > Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
> > <samuel.guimaraes at eldorado.org.br>;
> > ;
> > kimchi-devel at ovirt.org; donspang at us.ibm.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] New-UI Helvetica Font
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> > > > On 16/07/2015 13:09, Samuel Henrique De
> > Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
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> > > > Hi team,
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> > > >
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> > > > I noticed that the
> > new-ui design pattern for typography specifies Helvetica
> > Neue family in four different styles. This font family is
> > shipped with the latest versions of Mac OS X and iOS but
> > it is not available for free on Windows and Linux
> > distributions.
> >
> > > > I believe this might
> > conflict with Kimchi license. Even if we buy or rent a
> > webfont license we can’t distribute the TTF, EOT, WOFF and
> > SVG files in our repositories. I think that we can’t even
> > use a webfont license in this case (pointing to a remote
> > location or service like Adobe Typekit or MyFonts) because
> > most font-licensing services are charging based on
> > pre-paid pageviews.
> >
> > > > Usually for web apps,
> > mobile web apps and cloud based services we have to buy a
> > server license to store the webfont files within our
> > servers, but since Kimchi is an open-source project that
> > anyone can check out and run, every kimchi instance would
> > have to buy their own font license.
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> > > > We can set Helvetica
> > as the default font-family in the CSS and if the user
> > doesn’t have this font installed the browser will load the
> > next available font (Arial or any other Sans-Serif) but
> > since each font has different sizes, some elements may not
> > fit in the screen exactly like they were seen in the
> > mockups.
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> > Hrm... we should build the new UI with responsive web design
> > in mind which means changing the font, font size, resizing
> > the browser or whatever will not impact in the final layout.
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> > > > Also, the UI specs
> > recommends Helvetica Neue in 5 different styles (Light,
> > Roman, Regular, Medium and Bold), most system fonts only
> > have 3. We don’t have something like “Arial Light” for
> > instance.
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> > > >
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> > > > My suggestion is that
> > we replace Helvetica Neue for Open Sans because it covers
> > all the style specifications and it is licensed under
> > Apache 2.0. Any thoughts?
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> > Could you provide a screenshot with the Open Sans font so we
> > can see how it will look like?
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> > In first hand, I am OK to change to Open Sans.
> >
> > I am copying Don who originally designed the new UI with the
> > Helvetica Neue font to check if he has any advice to do.
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> > > > Thanks,
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> > > > Samuel Guimarães
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