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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/07/2015 13:22, Samuel Henrique De
Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I’m handling the new-ui development following
the latest submission to the UI proposals (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi/wiki/UI-Design-Proposals">https://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi/wiki/UI-Design-Proposals</a>).
Last time we discussed this in the IRC channel, I believe we
had set that Bootstrap is the CSS library that we’ll use for
wok branch and future releases.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">In this chat I said that Foundation5 had some
issues with IE9. I did some research later and found that
only the “off-canvas” component is affected but so far we
don’t use this component in the new-ui spec.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">Both libraries are good but Bootstrap default
styles are very similar to the new-ui spec components, it
would be easier and faster to customize it compared to
Foundation5 or even creating all the styles and components
one by one. The same goes for people developing new plugins,
they could start using Bootstrap components and then they
would have all the Wok styles.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Regarding the design thinking process, I’m not
sure if I’m following your question correctly but there are
some things in the new-ui spec that I believe we should
discuss. For instance the double caret and drop-downs in the
filters (page 29). Was it tested (usability)? What is the
story behind it and the requirements?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Please, detail each point you want to discuss in a separated note so
we can have a conclusion on which way to go.<br>
Also it would be great to add screenshots comparing the proposed
widgets for the new UI and the widget you think will have better
usability.<br>
That way everyone can see (without the need to open a file or
browser an URL) which is better and opine.<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">About the release date, it would be after
1.5.1. For now I’m creating a static version to edit
Bootstrap styles and widgets to match the new-ui spec. Once
it is finished I’m going to add the new assets and edit the
pages in wok branch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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You don't need to have every piece done to starting sending them to
review on ML.<br>
If you are doing if per widgets you can send one patch per widget,
so we can see you progress and also opine on how it looks like and
also about the code. <br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"
lang="EN-US">I’ve seen these issues but I wasn’t able to
reproduce none of them, except one that refers to Wok logo
(that is to be created). For the new-ui I’ve cropped Kimchi
text from the colored symbol, since the ui-spec suggests to
use native browser text instead of an image. That way we can
change the text to Wok or any other name until we come up
with a new logo.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Samuel
Guimaraes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org">kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org">mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Chandra Sr Potula<br>
<b>Sent:</b> terça-feira, 21 de julho de 2015 07:40<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org">kimchi-devel@ovirt.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Kimchi-devel] [Clarification] WOK
branch UI development<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">Hi Kimchi Devel-team,</span><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">There was good amount of
discussion on using of
<b>bootstrap </b>or<b> foundation 5</b> for the new-ui
development for WOK branch in the IRC (on
<b>2015-07-08</b>). </span><span lang="EN-US"><br>
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</span><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">Question I have on this
topic</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">:</span><span lang="EN-US"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">1. Are we experimenting with
bootstrap and decide in the near future on technology for
new-ui development or bootstrap is the way to go for UI ?</span><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">2. Also are we applying the
design thinking as well when it comes to new-ui development
for kimchi?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">3. Do we have time line to
accomplish this transformation ?</span><span lang="EN-US"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US"> </span><span lang="EN-US"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif" lang="EN-US">We have seen few UI issues
in the WOK branch after separation of kimchi plugin from
base frame work (<b>Issues #704-709</b>). I see all of them
labeled as 'wok' now. So for short time is it worth while to
fix these issues ? If so, is there a way assign these to my
team members or some body help us in fixing these issues ?</span><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif">Thanks in advance,</span><br>
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<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif">Regards</span><br>
<span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"DejaVu
Serif",serif">Chandra</span><br>
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