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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/09/2015 18:14, Samuel Henrique De
Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:<br>
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lang="EN-US"> Aline Manera
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com">mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> segunda-feira, 14 de setembro de 2015 18:10<br>
<b>To:</b> Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br"><samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org">kimchi-devel@ovirt.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Kimchi-devel] New-UI Helvetica Font<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14/09/2015 18:04, Samuel Henrique De
Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Hi
Aline,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Thank
you! I’m glad all the files have the same name.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Does the package contain all we need? Do you want me to
expose them to the server?</span><span
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lang="EN-US">Yes, these packages contain everything we need.
If you expose them to the server, I think we should rename
fontawesome folder to “fonts” and keep all font related CSS
files there.</span><span
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As the fonts will be in different directories in the server I will
not be able to expose them using the same URI (/fonts)<br>
What I can do is create 2 different targets:<br>
<br>
/fonts/fontawesome/<br>
/fonts/opensans/<br>
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I will update the fontawesome patch according to it. So all fonts
will have the same prefix (/fonts)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Samuel</span><span
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lang="EN-US"> Aline Manera [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Sent:</b> segunda-feira, 14 de setembro de 2015
18:02<br>
<b>To:</b> Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <a
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<samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br></a>; <a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Kimchi-devel] New-UI Helvetica
Font</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 14/09/2015 17:55, Aline Manera
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Samuel,<br>
<br>
From my investigation, I identified the OpenSans font is
packaged on Ubuntu, Fedora, openSUSE but I failed to find
the correspondent package for RHEL 7.1<br>
I will try more on it and send you the details, but if we
don't have RHEL 7.1 package to provide the OpenSans font
we will need to find other solution on that. Maybe use
other font.<o:p></o:p></p>
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OPs... Just found it <span class="moz-smiley-s1">:-) </span><br>
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on RHEL 7.1 (open-sans-fonts.noarch)<br>
<br>
/etc/fonts/conf.d/60-open-sans.conf<br>
/usr/share/doc/open-sans-fonts-1.10<br>
/usr/share/doc/open-sans-fonts-1.10/LICENSE.txt<br>
/usr/share/fontconfig/conf.avail/60-open-sans.conf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Bold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Italic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Light.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Regular.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/open-sans/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf<br>
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<br>
If it is all you need, I can send a patch to expose the
*.ttf files to the web server (the same I did for
fontawesome).<br>
<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Below is
the details for Ubuntu, Fedora and openSUSE.<br>
<br>
On Ubuntu 15.4 (texlive-fonts-extra):<br>
<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Bold.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLight.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLightItalic.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Italic.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Light.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Regular.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf<br>
texlive-fonts-extra:
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf<br>
<br>
On Fedora 22 (texlive-opensans.noarch):<br>
<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Bold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLight.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-CondLightItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Italic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Light.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Regular.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/fonts/truetype/public/opensans/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf<br>
<br>
On OpenSUSE 13.2
(google-opensans-fonts-1.0-10.1.5.noarch):<br>
<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-ExtraBoldItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-ExtraBold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-LightItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Light.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-SemiboldItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-BoldItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Italic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Bold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-CondBold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-CondLight.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-CondLightItalic.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Semibold.ttf<br>
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/OpenSans-Regular.ttf<br>
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Regards,<br>
Aline Manera<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 16/07/2015 13:09, Samuel Henrique
De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi team,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I noticed that the
new-ui design pattern for typography specifies
Helvetica Neue family in four different styles. This
font family is shipped with the latest versions of Mac
OS X and iOS but it is not available for free on
Windows and Linux distributions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">I believe this
might conflict with Kimchi license. Even if we buy or
rent a webfont license we can’t distribute the TTF,
EOT, WOFF and SVG files in our repositories. I think
that we can’t even use a webfont license in this case
(pointing to a remote location or service like Adobe
Typekit or MyFonts) because most font-licensing
services are charging based on pre-paid pageviews.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Usually for web
apps, mobile web apps and cloud based services we have
to buy a server license to store the webfont files
within our servers, but since Kimchi is an open-source
project that anyone can check out and run, every
kimchi instance would have to buy their own font
license.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We can set
Helvetica as the default font-family in the CSS and if
the user doesn’t have this font installed the browser
will load the next available font (Arial or any other
Sans-Serif) but since each font has different sizes,
some elements may not fit in the screen exactly like
they were seen in the mockups. Also, the UI specs
recommends Helvetica Neue in 5 different styles
(Light, Roman, Regular, Medium and Bold), most system
fonts only have 3. We don’t have something like “Arial
Light” for instance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My suggestion is
that we replace Helvetica Neue for Open Sans because
it covers all the style specifications and it is
licensed under Apache 2.0. Any thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Samuel Guimarães</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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