From dfediuck at redhat.com Sat Oct 1 20:40:20 2011 From: dfediuck at redhat.com (Doron Fediuck) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 23:40:20 +0300 Subject: splitting cli/sdk project In-Reply-To: <4E842EC1.1010608@redhat.com> References: <4E842EC1.1010608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <201110012340.20894.dfediuck@redhat.com> On Thursday 29 September 2011 11:39:29 Michael Pasternak wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I would like to propose splitting cli/sdk projects as each of them should become a master-project for different implementations > and i guess we wouldn't want mixing different SDKs and CLIs under same project. > > > +1. Makes a lot of sense, as long as this kicks off in sync' with the downstream sdk/cli. That is, make sure we're able to port patches from upstream to downstream with as little changes as possible. -- /d "Ford," he said, "you're turning into a penguin. Stop it." --Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy From kwade at redhat.com Mon Oct 3 20:11:12 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 13:11:12 -0700 Subject: workshop filling fast Message-ID: <20111003201112.GG2768@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Today we learned that Cisco now has a room that can handle up to 80 of us (yay!), so the current plan is to cap the workshop at 80. As of right now we have received 67 RSVPs. (That number includes a few placeholders for those of you who have requested that.) At the current rate we may be full by the beginning of next week. Everyone who has RSVP'd is on a new workshop mailing list. If you are attending by have not received the subscription and emails to workshop-nov2011 at ovirt.org, contact me immediately. Because we no longer need a hotel meeting room, today I'll finish looking for just a near-by hotel group discount rate. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Call Agenda == 1) Board news * Governance/Joining project guidelines * Project news / voting status * cli/sdk split proposal * Others? 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Statistics review (Carl) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Attendance updates (Robyn/Karsten) * Had 67 RSVP's as of 2011-10-03 * Logistics planning: * Capacity is now 80 people * Workshop attendees mailing list (Karsten) * Hotel, evening activities status (Karsten) * Press release status * Kerri is in all-day meeting today and unable to join; Press release is currently being drafted and will be shared when it is ready for review. 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Wiki status 5) Other updates / Agenda topics == Previous Action Items == * Kerri to put together draft press release for review next week - In progress, blocked this week. * Robyn to update meeting time to one hour - done * List discussion items: Two-tier project acceptance/graduation proposal, Webex discussion * Kyle to look into the option of getting a UCS on site rather than Andy shipping a rack - in progress == International Dial-in Information == Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, LocalCall Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182 From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 5 14:46:40 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:46:40 -0400 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-10-05 Message-ID: <4E8C6DD0.3070209@redhat.com> oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, October 5, 2011 - 14:00-15:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning at ovirt.org list subscribers Frank Novak (IBM) Robyn Bergeron (Red Hat) Jon Benedict (Net App) Livnat Peer (Red Hat) Karsten Wade (Red Hat) Jim Jagielski (Red Hat) Andy Cathrow (Red Hat) Michael Enescu (Cisco) Alex Graf (SUSE) Ricardo Labiaga (Net App) Carl Trieloff (Red Hat) Yaniv Kaul (Red Hat) Anthony Liguori (IBM) Mike Day (IBM) Itamar Heim (Red Hat) Perry Myers (Red Hat) If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please mail rbergero at redhat.com. == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Action Items == * Robyn to get Jun added to Board/project planning lists, meeting invite. * Carl to link up project maturity page, adding a subproject page * Karsten to continue working hotel/event arrangements for workshop == Call Agenda == 0) General Updates * Intel has requested to swap their board seat from Imad to Jun Nakajima. * External site has been updated, now invited to call. * Action: Will be added to lists/meeting by Robyn. 1) Board news * Governance/Joining project guidelines * Jim has written up 2 components: * Project acceptance policy (include into adding a subproject page) * Indications of a healthy project (add to project maturity page) * Carl: Link project maturity page to adding a subproject page. * Goal is to get things posted before the weekend, reengage discussion next week on subprojects. * Project news / voting status * cli/sdk split proposal * Others? * Participation updates (Andy) 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Statistics review (Carl) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Attendance updates (Robyn/Karsten) * Have 71 people currently RSVP'd. * Logistics planning: * Capacity is now 80 people (thanks, Cisco) * Workshop attendees mailing list (Karsten) * Sending updates / etc. to workshop list. * Hotel, evening activities status (Karsten) * Looking at bids for hotels. * Social event is possible on first night (Red Hat sponsored) - need to find a location. If you have any suggestions, please let Carl or Karsten know. * Press release status * Kerri is in all-day meeting today and unable to join; Press release is currently being drafted and will be shared when it is ready for review. * Expecting to reach capacity sometime next week or possibly by the end of this week. * Tweeting/announcing workshop is almost full - anyone can do. We'll need to announce that we are closed by next week. * If we have additional people RSVP, we should email them back and let them know that it is full, but that we'll let them know about any vacancies/cancellations. Should keep the workshop list up to date so we can track any people. * The week before the workshop, ask for any people unable to go to let us know, so we can reassess / give more people seats from cancellations. * OVA mail goes out this week - we may get quite a few more needs. * WebEx sessions: * Have no volunteers for content thus far - people are short on time. * Will hold-off for source release to see if there is time after that. 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Wiki status * Complete, pushing out accounts as fast as we can trick people in to getting them. * Want to wrap up infrastructure stuff by the 18th. Bring up the repos externally a week before the conference so that people can start getting up to speed, etc. 5) Other updates / Agenda topics From ryanh at us.ibm.com Wed Oct 5 19:01:40 2011 From: ryanh at us.ibm.com (Ryan Harper) Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:01:40 -0500 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-10-05 In-Reply-To: <4E8C6DD0.3070209@redhat.com> References: <4E8C6DD0.3070209@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20111005190140.GN24535@us.ibm.com> * Robyn Bergeron [2011-10-05 09:48]: > oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes > > Wednesday, October 5, 2011 - 14:00-15:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, > 07:00am US Pacific) > > == Invitees/Attendees == > project-planning at ovirt.org list subscribers > > Frank Novak (IBM) > Robyn Bergeron (Red Hat) > Jon Benedict (Net App) > Livnat Peer (Red Hat) > Karsten Wade (Red Hat) > Jim Jagielski (Red Hat) > Andy Cathrow (Red Hat) > Michael Enescu (Cisco) > Alex Graf (SUSE) > Ricardo Labiaga (Net App) > Carl Trieloff (Red Hat) > Yaniv Kaul (Red Hat) > Anthony Liguori (IBM) > Mike Day (IBM) > Itamar Heim (Red Hat) > Perry Myers (Red Hat) Ryan Harper (IBM) > > If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like > it to be, please mail rbergero at redhat.com. > > == Project Schedule == > * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion > * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 > * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco > * Press release post workshop > * Community startup at workshop > * Schedule first community release > * Community Infrastructure > * Launch at workshop > * First release - January/February. > > == Action Items == > * Robyn to get Jun added to Board/project planning lists, meeting invite. > * Carl to link up project maturity page, adding a subproject page > * Karsten to continue working hotel/event arrangements for workshop > > == Call Agenda == > > 0) General Updates > * Intel has requested to swap their board seat from Imad to Jun Nakajima. > * External site has been updated, now invited to call. > * Action: Will be added to lists/meeting by Robyn. > > 1) Board news > * Governance/Joining project guidelines > * Jim has written up 2 components: > * Project acceptance policy (include into adding a subproject page) > * Indications of a healthy project (add to project maturity page) > * Carl: Link project maturity page to adding a subproject page. > * Goal is to get things posted before the weekend, reengage > discussion next week on subprojects. > * Project news / voting status > * cli/sdk split proposal > * Others? > * Participation updates (Andy) > > 2) Project launch status / Progress review > * Statistics review (Carl) > > 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. > * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ > * Attendance updates (Robyn/Karsten) > * Have 71 people currently RSVP'd. > * Logistics planning: > * Capacity is now 80 people (thanks, Cisco) > * Workshop attendees mailing list (Karsten) > * Sending updates / etc. to workshop list. > * Hotel, evening activities status (Karsten) > * Looking at bids for hotels. > * Social event is possible on first night (Red Hat sponsored) - need > to find a location. If you have any suggestions, please let Carl or > Karsten know. > * Press release status > * Kerri is in all-day meeting today and unable to join; Press release > is currently being drafted and will be shared when it is ready for review. > * Expecting to reach capacity sometime next week or possibly by the > end of this week. > * Tweeting/announcing workshop is almost full - anyone can do. We'll > need to announce that we are closed by next week. > * If we have additional people RSVP, we should email them back and let > them know that it is full, but that we'll let them know about any > vacancies/cancellations. Should keep the workshop list up to date so we > can track any people. > * The week before the workshop, ask for any people unable to go to > let us know, so we can reassess / give more people seats from cancellations. > * OVA mail goes out this week - we may get quite a few more needs. > * WebEx sessions: > * Have no volunteers for content thus far - people are short on time. > * Will hold-off for source release to see if there is time after that. > > 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) > * Wiki status > * Complete, pushing out accounts as fast as we can trick people in > to getting them. > * Want to wrap up infrastructure stuff by the 18th. Bring up the repos > externally a week before the conference so that people can start getting > up to speed, etc. > > 5) Other updates / Agenda topics > > > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh at us.ibm.com From kwade at redhat.com Fri Oct 7 04:12:29 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 21:12:29 -0700 Subject: dealing with a larger capacity workshop Message-ID: <20111007041229.GA29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> I've been wondering if the capacity of the breakout sessions on days two and three of the workshop is greater than that of the big room on the first day, i.e., >80? If so, maybe there are ways we can have more people for the workshop and deal with the room overflow on the first day? As long as we don't have more people than can fit in all of the rooms combined, we'll have room for everyone just not in one room. So what if we simulcasted the main room session in to smaller side rooms? In the end, how these events fill rooms is limited by the Fire Marshall. There is a max capacity under each seating condition. But my thinking is, I'd be willing to give up my chair to get just one more developer in to that seat. In fact, I'd much rather be on my feet making a live webcast of the entire first day happen than occupying a useful chair! Is there some merit in this idea? Anything useful? - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a max capacity under each seating condition. > > But my thinking is, I'd be willing to give up my chair to get just > one > more developer in to that seat. > > In fact, I'd much rather be on my feet making a live webcast of the > entire first day happen than occupying a useful chair! > > Is there some merit in this idea? Anything useful? Just from tlv we've got over 10 people coming, most of whom can sit out of most technical talks (or will be giving talks / workshops). In fact we'll probably use any free time to go on working on the following sessions. > > - Karsten > -- > name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener > team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership > uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org > gpg: AD0E0C41 > > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning > From cctrieloff at redhat.com Fri Oct 7 13:28:17 2011 From: cctrieloff at redhat.com (Carl Trieloff) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:28:17 -0400 Subject: dealing with a larger capacity workshop In-Reply-To: <20111007041229.GA29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> References: <20111007041229.GA29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <4E8EFE71.2030409@redhat.com> no, we need to cap around 80. If we get too large the sessions will become lectures and non-productive for the kick-off workshop. Carl. On 10/07/2011 12:12 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: > I've been wondering if the capacity of the breakout sessions on days > two and three of the workshop is greater than that of the big room on > the first day, i.e., >80? > > If so, maybe there are ways we can have more people for the workshop > and deal with the room overflow on the first day? > > As long as we don't have more people than can fit in all of the rooms > combined, we'll have room for everyone just not in one room. > > So what if we simulcasted the main room session in to smaller side > rooms? > > In the end, how these events fill rooms is limited by the Fire > Marshall. There is a max capacity under each seating condition. > > But my thinking is, I'd be willing to give up my chair to get just one > more developer in to that seat. > > In fact, I'd much rather be on my feet making a live webcast of the > entire first day happen than occupying a useful chair! > > Is there some merit in this idea? Anything useful? > > - Karsten > > > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kwade at redhat.com Fri Oct 7 18:23:04 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:23:04 -0700 Subject: dealing with a larger capacity workshop In-Reply-To: <4E8EFE71.2030409@redhat.com> References: <20111007041229.GA29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> <4E8EFE71.2030409@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20111007182304.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 09:28:17AM -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote: > > no, we need to cap around 80. If we get too large the sessions will > become lectures and non-productive for > the kick-off workshop. OK, I see, so your vision of size extends in to the break-out sessions as dividing up one reasonably-sized-pool. Makes sense to me. So we're effectively at 80 people on the RSVP list, with just a few of those placeholders to be filled. (I'm in communication with placeholder owners, no worries.) Here's a quick plan, does this work? 1. At 80 to 85 we draw the line - we can support 85 on the first day in a safe and legal way. 2. Fix website content to say we're full but RSVP if you want to be on a wait list. 3. We do a quick post on Twitter etc. that we're full. Some of us write in our blogs that this happened, good sign of interest, sorry for those who are missing it, more to come. 4. Have some simple, "How to stay involved" information for folks who show interest. For example, I'm going to start a monthly oVirt Bay Area Meetup targeted for mid-December. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kwade at redhat.com Fri Oct 7 18:31:51 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:31:51 -0700 Subject: Video at workshop? Message-ID: <20111007183151.GM29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> I'm a full-time telecommuter and I really, really appreciate when events are webcast (with archives.) Sometimes it's the only chance I have to see and hear the voices behind important events. So I have a vision that we _could_ webcast the first day of the workshop.[1] There are a lot of ways to accomplish this, the least of which is me setting up a camera, recording, and posting on the web afterwards. Are there any thoughts from you all about this? For some of us, it may be the first time we're going to participate publicly in such an open way, and I want to respect the concerns that can come with that. I assure you that people watching really do benefit and it will help your interactions in the future when stuck in text mode on IRC and mailing lists. I'm also thinking of the rest of the existing developer teams at our individual organizations - they can't be at the workshop and benefit from seeing all of us, too. I know this is a complication that could be very annoying for the presenters and audience if we don't do it right. So I'm asking you - as developers and technologists - what way do you think? - Karsten [1] I figure webcasting the breakout sessions is more annoyance than useful, although I'll be recommending using Etherpad and IRC for collaborative documentation of breakouts; wiki is archive for session notes. However, if you want to bring people in to your session using videoconferencing, great. Maybe we can talk about that possibility, too. -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aliguori at us.ibm.com Fri Oct 7 18:46:16 2011 From: aliguori at us.ibm.com (Anthony Liguori) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:46:16 -0500 Subject: dealing with a larger capacity workshop In-Reply-To: <20111007182304.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> References: <20111007041229.GA29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> <4E8EFE71.2030409@redhat.com> <20111007182304.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <4E8F48F8.3060602@us.ibm.com> On 10/07/2011 01:23 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 09:28:17AM -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote: >> >> no, we need to cap around 80. If we get too large the sessions will >> become lectures and non-productive for >> the kick-off workshop. > > OK, I see, so your vision of size extends in to the break-out sessions > as dividing up one reasonably-sized-pool. Makes sense to me. > > So we're effectively at 80 people on the RSVP list, with just a few of > those placeholders to be filled. (I'm in communication with > placeholder owners, no worries.) > > Here's a quick plan, does this work? > > 1. At 80 to 85 we draw the line - we can support 85 on the first day > in a safe and legal way. > > 2. Fix website content to say we're full but RSVP if you want to be on > a wait list. > > 3. We do a quick post on Twitter etc. that we're full. Some of us > write in our blogs that this happened, good sign of interest, sorry > for those who are missing it, more to come. > > 4. Have some simple, "How to stay involved" information for folks who > show interest. For example, I'm going to start a monthly oVirt > Bay Area Meetup targeted for mid-December. For working sessions, would it be possible to stream audio either via a conference call or through an audio streaming service? At UDSes, they tend to project an IRC session and use group note taking software in order to let people remotely participate. Perhaps Dustin knows some more of the specifics on the technologies used. Regards, Anthony Liguori > > - Karsten > > > > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning From aliguori at us.ibm.com Fri Oct 7 19:02:52 2011 From: aliguori at us.ibm.com (Anthony Liguori) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:02:52 -0500 Subject: Video at workshop? In-Reply-To: <20111007183151.GM29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> References: <20111007183151.GM29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <4E8F4CDC.5000409@us.ibm.com> On 10/07/2011 01:31 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: > I'm a full-time telecommuter and I really, really appreciate when > events are webcast (with archives.) Sometimes it's the only chance I > have to see and hear the voices behind important events. > > So I have a vision that we _could_ webcast the first day of the > workshop.[1] There are a lot of ways to accomplish this, the least of > which is me setting up a camera, recording, and posting on the web > afterwards. > > Are there any thoughts from you all about this? I'm not going to be able to attend the workshop so I'm very eager about having a way to participate remotely. I actually think video is not all that important as long as slide decks are made available before hand. Audio is really what's important. There's a lot of ways to stream audio (particularly, in real time). For breakout sessions, projecting an IRC channel has worked well at past conferences, in particular, when combined with streaming audio. Regards, Anthony Liguori > For some of us, it may be the first time we're going to participate > publicly in such an open way, and I want to respect the concerns that > can come with that. I assure you that people watching really do > benefit and it will help your interactions in the future when stuck in > text mode on IRC and mailing lists. I'm also thinking of the rest of > the existing developer teams at our individual organizations - they > can't be at the workshop and benefit from seeing all of us, too. > > I know this is a complication that could be very annoying for the > presenters and audience if we don't do it right. > > So I'm asking you - as developers and technologists - what way do you > think? > > - Karsten > > [1] I figure webcasting the breakout sessions is more annoyance than > useful, although I'll be recommending using Etherpad and IRC for > collaborative documentation of breakouts; wiki is archive for > session notes. However, if you want to bring people in to your > session using videoconferencing, great. Maybe we can talk about > that possibility, too. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning From kmestery at cisco.com Fri Oct 7 19:05:14 2011 From: kmestery at cisco.com (kmestery) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 14:05:14 -0500 Subject: Video at workshop? In-Reply-To: <4E8F4CDC.5000409@us.ibm.com> References: <20111007183151.GM29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> <4E8F4CDC.5000409@us.ibm.com> Message-ID: <0BC3EE01-A870-4AD4-9590-41C783AA6C96@cisco.com> We can setup a WebEx as well, which would allow us to share the presentations that way. This would be voice as well, we could do video if someone had a video camera as well. On Oct 7, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > On 10/07/2011 01:31 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: >> I'm a full-time telecommuter and I really, really appreciate when >> events are webcast (with archives.) Sometimes it's the only chance I >> have to see and hear the voices behind important events. >> >> So I have a vision that we _could_ webcast the first day of the >> workshop.[1] There are a lot of ways to accomplish this, the least of >> which is me setting up a camera, recording, and posting on the web >> afterwards. >> >> Are there any thoughts from you all about this? > > I'm not going to be able to attend the workshop so I'm very eager about having a way to participate remotely. > > I actually think video is not all that important as long as slide decks are made available before hand. Audio is really what's important. There's a lot of ways to stream audio (particularly, in real time). > > For breakout sessions, projecting an IRC channel has worked well at past conferences, in particular, when combined with streaming audio. > > Regards, > > Anthony Liguori > >> For some of us, it may be the first time we're going to participate >> publicly in such an open way, and I want to respect the concerns that >> can come with that. I assure you that people watching really do >> benefit and it will help your interactions in the future when stuck in >> text mode on IRC and mailing lists. I'm also thinking of the rest of >> the existing developer teams at our individual organizations - they >> can't be at the workshop and benefit from seeing all of us, too. >> >> I know this is a complication that could be very annoying for the >> presenters and audience if we don't do it right. >> >> So I'm asking you - as developers and technologists - what way do you >> think? >> >> - Karsten >> >> [1] I figure webcasting the breakout sessions is more annoyance than >> useful, although I'll be recommending using Etherpad and IRC for >> collaborative documentation of breakouts; wiki is archive for >> session notes. However, if you want to bring people in to your >> session using videoconferencing, great. Maybe we can talk about >> that possibility, too. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Project-planning mailing list >> Project-planning at ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning > > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning From kwade at redhat.com Sat Oct 8 00:18:24 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 17:18:24 -0700 Subject: Video at workshop? In-Reply-To: References: <20111007183151.GM29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <20111008001824.GR29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 05:20:52PM -0400, Dustin Kirkland wrote: > > My team uses Google+ Hangouts extensively (mostly for daily standups, > etc). It supports voice/video through a web browser of up to 10 > people at a time. It also supports desktop sharing now. I'm thinking we might have >1 methods for connecting from within the breakout sessions, depending on who we need to bring in - some WebEx, some G+, some Skype, some of us even love BigBlueButton. :) > Additionally, we've had success in some Ubuntu summits by icecasting > the live audio to the internet, and dedicating 1 of 2 projectors in > the room to an IRC channel, where remote, listening users post their > questions and comments. Also, a big +1 on Etherpad -- essential for > this sort of thing. +1 on Icecast, we've done that with Fedora events. +1 to IRC channel projection, too, very good stuff. Audio stream + IRC are useful for Q&A, for example. > I unfortunately won't be able to make this first summit, so I'd very > much appreciate a way to listen and contribute remotely. Cheers! We'll catch you next time. :) Do you know if Mark Baker is attending? I know we have a horrible conflict (the bane of event planning :( ), and yes, this is one reason I'll commit to making video + audio happening. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From abaron at redhat.com Sat Oct 8 21:20:29 2011 From: abaron at redhat.com (Ayal Baron) Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:20:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: dealing with a larger capacity workshop In-Reply-To: <20111007182304.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <6ff7d8ba-7f20-4361-bc6a-6945a9a02950@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> ----- Original Message ----- > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 09:28:17AM -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote: > > > > no, we need to cap around 80. If we get too large the sessions will > > become lectures and non-productive for > > the kick-off workshop. > > OK, I see, so your vision of size extends in to the break-out > sessions > as dividing up one reasonably-sized-pool. Makes sense to me. > > So we're effectively at 80 people on the RSVP list, with just a few > of > those placeholders to be filled. (I'm in communication with > placeholder owners, no worries.) Do we have any estimate on how many of the rsvps won't show up in the end? > > Here's a quick plan, does this work? > > 1. At 80 to 85 we draw the line - we can support 85 on the first day > in a safe and legal way. > > 2. Fix website content to say we're full but RSVP if you want to be > on > a wait list. > > 3. We do a quick post on Twitter etc. that we're full. Some of us > write in our blogs that this happened, good sign of interest, > sorry > for those who are missing it, more to come. > > 4. Have some simple, "How to stay involved" information for folks who > show interest. For example, I'm going to start a monthly oVirt > Bay Area Meetup targeted for mid-December. > > - Karsten > -- > name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener > team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership > uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org > gpg: AD0E0C41 > > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning > From cctrieloff at redhat.com Mon Oct 10 18:45:55 2011 From: cctrieloff at redhat.com (Carl Trieloff) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:45:55 -0400 Subject: dealing with a larger capacity workshop In-Reply-To: <20111007182304.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> References: <20111007041229.GA29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> <4E8EFE71.2030409@redhat.com> <20111007182304.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <4E933D63.6060205@redhat.com> On 10/07/2011 02:23 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: > On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 09:28:17AM -0400, Carl Trieloff wrote: >> no, we need to cap around 80. If we get too large the sessions will >> become lectures and non-productive for >> the kick-off workshop. > OK, I see, so your vision of size extends in to the break-out sessions > as dividing up one reasonably-sized-pool. Makes sense to me. > > So we're effectively at 80 people on the RSVP list, with just a few of > those placeholders to be filled. (I'm in communication with > placeholder owners, no worries.) > > Here's a quick plan, does this work? > > 1. At 80 to 85 we draw the line - we can support 85 on the first day > in a safe and legal way. > > 2. Fix website content to say we're full but RSVP if you want to be on > a wait list. > > 3. We do a quick post on Twitter etc. that we're full. Some of us > write in our blogs that this happened, good sign of interest, sorry > for those who are missing it, more to come. > > 4. Have some simple, "How to stay involved" information for folks who > show interest. For example, I'm going to start a monthly oVirt > Bay Area Meetup targeted for mid-December. > sounds good, do it at 85, as there are always a few people that can't make it last minute. Carl. From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 12 12:50:49 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:50:49 -0700 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda :: 2011-10-12 Message-ID: <4E958D29.9010702@redhat.com> oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 14:00 - 15:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning at ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please mail rbergero at redhat.com. == Intercall Conference == Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 International Dial-In Number: (212) 729-5016 Other International Local and Toll-Free Dial-In Numbers: Listed in meeting invite and bottom of meeting agenda. Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Call Agenda == 1) Board news * Project news / voting status updates * New board participants 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Statistics review (Carl) * Addition of project maturity page / how to add a subproject page status (Carl) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Attendance updates (Robyn/Karsten) * Logistics planning: * Hotel, evening activities status (Karsten) * Press release status (Kerri) 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Wiki status 5) Other updates / Agenda topics == Previous Action Items == * Robyn to get Jun added to Board/project planning lists, meeting invite. (Done) * Carl to link up project maturity page, adding a subproject page * Karsten to continue working hotel/event arrangements for workshop (Done) == International Dial-in Information == Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, LocalCall Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182 From aliguori at us.ibm.com Wed Oct 12 14:11:15 2011 From: aliguori at us.ibm.com (Anthony Liguori) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:11:15 -0500 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC Message-ID: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel about moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to participate in IRC meetings. I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable with using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't preclude having occasional phone calls if necessary. Regards, Anthony Liguori From dustin.kirkland at canonical.com Wed Oct 12 14:47:55 2011 From: dustin.kirkland at canonical.com (Dustin Kirkland) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:47:55 -0500 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> Message-ID: On Oct 12, 2011 9:12 AM, "Anthony Liguori" wrote: > > This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel about moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? > > The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to participate in IRC meetings. > > I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable with using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't preclude having occasional phone calls if necessary. +1 > Regards, > > Anthony Liguori > > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrisw at redhat.com Wed Oct 12 15:04:19 2011 From: chrisw at redhat.com (Chris Wright) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:04:19 -0700 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> Message-ID: <20111012150419.GU2536@x200.localdomain> * Anthony Liguori (aliguori at us.ibm.com) wrote: > This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel about > moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? > > The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be > posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to > participate in IRC meetings. > > I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable with > using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't preclude having > occasional phone calls if necessary. The only other downsides I've heard voiced (having just gone through this debate elsewhere): 1) typing == slow for some folks 2) inevitible overlapping conversations 3) more consuming than phone (harder to do 2 things at once) 4) can't do from airport/kitchen/car/... thanks, -chris From ryanh at us.ibm.com Wed Oct 12 14:58:36 2011 From: ryanh at us.ibm.com (Ryan Harper) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:58:36 -0500 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> Message-ID: <20111012145836.GP19367@us.ibm.com> * Anthony Liguori [2011-10-12 09:14]: > This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel about > moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? > > The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be > posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to > participate in IRC meetings. > > I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable with > using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't preclude > having occasional phone calls if necessary. +1 Do we have a irc bot for logging? > > Regards, > > Anthony Liguori > > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh at us.ibm.com From aliguori at us.ibm.com Wed Oct 12 15:45:46 2011 From: aliguori at us.ibm.com (Anthony Liguori) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:45:46 -0500 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <20111012150419.GU2536@x200.localdomain> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> <20111012150419.GU2536@x200.localdomain> Message-ID: <4E95B62A.4040705@us.ibm.com> On 10/12/2011 10:04 AM, Chris Wright wrote: > * Anthony Liguori (aliguori at us.ibm.com) wrote: >> This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel about >> moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? >> >> The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be >> posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to >> participate in IRC meetings. >> >> I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable with >> using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't preclude having >> occasional phone calls if necessary. > > The only other downsides I've heard voiced (having just gone through > this debate elsewhere): > > 1) typing == slow for some folks > 2) inevitible overlapping conversations I think the key is to moderate the discussion and make sure there's a clear agenda. Regards, Anthony Liguori > 3) more consuming than phone (harder to do 2 things at once) > 4) can't do from airport/kitchen/car/... > > thanks, > -chris From pmyers at redhat.com Wed Oct 12 17:01:10 2011 From: pmyers at redhat.com (Perry Myers) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:01:10 -0400 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> Message-ID: <4E95C7D6.2040308@redhat.com> On 10/12/2011 10:11 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel > about moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? > > The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be > posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to > participate in IRC meetings. > > I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable > with using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't > preclude having occasional phone calls if necessary. +1, I share cdub's concerns that he pointed out but at the same time I think we can make it work :) From kwade at redhat.com Wed Oct 12 22:28:36 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:28:36 -0700 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <20111012145836.GP19367@us.ibm.com> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> <20111012145836.GP19367@us.ibm.com> Message-ID: <20111012222836.GK29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:58:36AM -0500, Ryan Harper wrote: > * Anthony Liguori [2011-10-12 09:14]: > > This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel about > > moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? > > > > The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be > > posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks to > > participate in IRC meetings. > > > > I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable with > > using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't preclude > > having occasional phone calls if necessary. > > +1 > > Do we have a irc bot for logging? Putting up a 'meetbot' instance is on my list right after gerrit/jenkins. If we move meetings to IRC ... which I +1 btw ... we'll have the bot in channel before the first meeting. :D - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lots of Canonical folks interested in participating. * WebEx whenever possible * Audio stream * IRC Channels for each room * Etherpad * Andrew working with Cisco on Hardware for in-person meeting. * Actual content of workshop is in planning. 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Wiki status - Wiki is now open, request an account if you need one. * Gerrit/Jenkins - working on the base EC2 images, making sure it is open for participation, goal of having gerrit.ovirt.org running by 17 or 19 Oct. 5) Other updates / Agenda topics From kwade at redhat.com Wed Oct 12 22:43:46 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:43:46 -0700 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <20111012150419.GU2536@x200.localdomain> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> <20111012150419.GU2536@x200.localdomain> Message-ID: <20111012224346.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 08:04:19AM -0700, Chris Wright wrote: > The only other downsides I've heard voiced (having just gone through > this debate elsewhere): > > 1) typing == slow for some folks > 2) inevitible overlapping conversations > 3) more consuming than phone (harder to do 2 things at once) > 4) can't do from airport/kitchen/car/... Yep, totally understand where this list comes from, I've been there before. The place I draw the line is, a tightly integrated team - such as a developer team at a company - has a higher importance on certain factors that make the above objections more relevant: * It's your team meeting at your JOB, you make the meeting no matter what. So it's key to have it highly available (call from anywhere) v. text-based. * The rest of your company may not be familiar with the pace of open source development - it doesn't respond to "NOW!" the way a job-role does, the urgency to be in meetings isn't the same, etc. * And so forth. Where it comes to open community meetings, we are plainly just more flexible to be as accommodating as possible. So this means we do IRC in plain text because: * It's easier for non-native English speakers. * In fact, some people can read English but not understand all the spoken accents. * It's translatable. * It's accessible - if you can't hear a phone conversation, you can read an IRC log. If you can't read a log, you can use a screenreader. * It's searchable when the log is archived. Once a project is out in the open and WANTS participation, that's when the phone calls stop and IRC+email begins. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From shuming at linux.vnet.ibm.com Thu Oct 13 06:07:18 2011 From: shuming at linux.vnet.ibm.com (shu ming) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:07:18 +0800 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <20111012224346.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> <20111012150419.GU2536@x200.localdomain> <20111012224346.GL29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <4E968016.6000907@linux.vnet.ibm.com> On 2011-10-13 6:43, Karsten Wade wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 08:04:19AM -0700, Chris Wright wrote: > >> The only other downsides I've heard voiced (having just gone through >> this debate elsewhere): >> >> 1) typing == slow for some folks >> 2) inevitible overlapping conversations >> 3) more consuming than phone (harder to do 2 things at once) >> 4) can't do from airport/kitchen/car/... > Yep, totally understand where this list comes from, I've been there > before. > > The place I draw the line is, a tightly integrated team - such as a > developer team at a company - has a higher importance on certain > factors that make the above objections more relevant: > > * It's your team meeting at your JOB, you make the meeting no matter > what. So it's key to have it highly available (call from anywhere) > v. text-based. > > * The rest of your company may not be familiar with the pace of open > source development - it doesn't respond to "NOW!" the way a job-role > does, the urgency to be in meetings isn't the same, etc. > > * And so forth. > > Where it comes to open community meetings, we are plainly just more > flexible to be as accommodating as possible. So this means we do IRC > in plain text because: > > * It's easier for non-native English speakers. > > * In fact, some people can read English but not understand all the > spoken accents. > > * It's translatable. > > * It's accessible - if you can't hear a phone conversation, you can > read an IRC log. If you can't read a log, you can use a > screenreader. > > * It's searchable when the log is archived. +1 and add one moe * It is easy to know who is talking in the meeting by IRC ID, especially for a meeting with many attendees. > > Once a project is out in the open and WANTS participation, that's when > the phone calls stop and IRC+email begins. > > - Karsten > > > _______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cctrieloff at redhat.com Thu Oct 13 18:40:20 2011 From: cctrieloff at redhat.com (Carl Trieloff) Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:40:20 -0400 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-10-12 In-Reply-To: <4E9614CC.7090703@redhat.com> References: <4E9614CC.7090703@redhat.com> Message-ID: <4E973094.1090509@redhat.com> On 10/12/2011 06:29 PM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > * Andy to follow up with Kerri re: status on press release I have a first draft, which I will get out for review for next week. regards Carl. From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 19 12:29:37 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:29:37 -0700 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda :: 2011-10-19 Message-ID: <4E9EC2B1.6050105@redhat.com> oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 14:00 - 15:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning at ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please mail rbergero at redhat.com. == Intercall Conference == Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 International Dial-In Number: (212) 729-5016 Other International Local and Toll-Free Dial-In Numbers: Listed in meeting invite and bottom of meeting agenda. Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Call Agenda == 1) Board news * Project news / voting status updates 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Statistics review * Addition of project maturity page / how to add a subproject page status (Carl) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Logistics planning: * Hotel, evening activities status (Karsten) * Press release status (Kerri) 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Standing agenda item 5) IRC Meetings vs. Phone meetings * Need to come to a conclusion * Proposals: * Move to IRC Meetings * ...or not * ... or some combination thereof. * When? Starting next week? * Infrastructure needed: * Meetbot in #ovirt channel * Should start collecting meeting minutes on wiki 6) Other updates / Agenda topics * Add your agenda item here! == Previous Action Items == * Anthony to propose IRC meeting for this meeting ILO phone call to mailing list (done) * Andy to follow up with Kerri re: status on press release (done) * Karsten to follow up with Crowne Plaza re: group rate (done) == International Dial-in Information == Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, LocalCall Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182 From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 19 12:33:21 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 05:33:21 -0700 Subject: [RFC] Moving project planning meeting to IRC In-Reply-To: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> References: <4E95A003.4060102@us.ibm.com> Message-ID: <4E9EC391.1060002@redhat.com> On 10/12/2011 07:11 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > This came up in today's project planning meeting. How do folks feel > about moving the project planning and future board meetings to IRC? > > The advantage of IRC meetings are that the full meeting minutes can be > posted in a public archive. It's significantly easier for many folks > to participate in IRC meetings. > > I think the only downside would be if anyone involved is uncomfortable > with using IRC. Using IRC for regular meetings certainly doesn't > preclude having occasional phone calls if necessary. > > Regards, > > Anthony Liguori Since we've had this discussion over the past week, I've added it to today's sync call agenda. It seems like we have a number of people in favor of the idea, but I figured it's probably best to continue with the call for this week, and come to a solid, announced conclusion/decision, before shifting to IRC (if in fact that is what's agreed-upon.) We should also double check to make sure everyone on the call is familiar with IRC, and get a bot in #ovirt (or #ovirt-meeting) if necessary. (Though, IMO, it's helpful to have a bot in channel, regardless - it's nice to be able to capture spontaneous discussions with meetbot.) -Robyn From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 19 15:01:26 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:01:26 -0700 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-10-19 Message-ID: <4E9EE646.7050802@redhat.com> oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 14:00 - 15:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning at ovirt.org list subscribers Jon Benedict - NetApp Adam Litke - IBM Ryan Harper - IBM Greg McIntyre - IBM Karsten Wade - Red Hat Dann Frazer - Canonical Jun Nakajima - Intel Kerri Catalozzi - Red Hat Chris Wright - Red Hat Andy Cathrow - Red Hat If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please mail rbergero at redhat.com. == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Action Items == * Carl to start voting over weekend so people can have projects in prior to workshop. == Call Agenda == 1) Board news * Project news / voting status updates * Carl planning to start vote to get projects included over weekend, so people can have projects in prior to workshop. Friday - Tuesday. * Carl to start working on a checklist for how to get a project into oVirt * Karsten to start working on wiki re: figuring names of rooms, time slots, etc. * Karsten to take discussion re: additional social events to project-planning list. * Kerri to send out preview of press release to folks on phone call. * Dann to synchronize with Kerri re: Canonical PR contact. 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Statistics review * Addition of project maturity page / how to add a subproject page status * Has incubator docs up * Wants to work on a checklist 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Logistics planning: * Hotel, evening activities status (Karsten) * Karsten went out to visit the facility, looks like a good space, large room, breakout sessions. etc. * Karsten wants to start working on the wiki re: figuring out names of rooms, time slots, etc. * Itamar has sent out a survey - basically trying to determine resource dependencies for parallel tracks. * Social event for first night * Crowne Plaza - Reception there. 2 drinks p/p, cash bar, italian food, 6-9pm Tuesday. In open dining room. * We do have folks willing to fund other nighttime events. * Karsten will take the discussion about yes/no to project-planning. * Press release status (Kerri) * Press release draft in place. * Written as a joint release amongst all of the board companies. * Looking to start getting approvals today. Will be moving ahead with that today. * Specific PR Contacts at the majority of the board companies, or anyone specific you'd prefer Kerri to work with? * Doesn't have the contact for Canonical yet. Dann will get her a contact, possibly through Robyn. * IBM (Ryan), a few others would like to see it before getting sent out - Kerri to copy everyone on this call directly, along with the PR folks. * Kerri will join next week to give an update on ok's. 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Ask Carl or Karsten if you are wanting to be admins on the website, etc. * We have the pool of machines that we've reserved in EC2 for gerrit and hudson, so we can do organized integration on checkins, code reviews, etc. * Expects that when Itamar comes back on Sunday, those things will be coming online. * Itamar is wanting to get source up and running around the 25th. * Doesn't know if we can get DNS updated right away (by the 25th). 5) IRC Meetings vs. Phone meetings * Need to come to a conclusion * Proposals: * Move to IRC Meetings * ...or not * ... or some combination thereof. * When? Starting next week? * Infrastructure needed: * Meetbot in #ovirt channel * Should start collecting meeting minutes on wiki * Carl proposed that we have the meeting next week prior to the event on the phone, as it's the last pre-workshop call. Then move to IRC meetings. 6) Other updates / Agenda topics * Add your agenda item here! * Tony Gargya will be doing promotion of workshop in Prague next week. * Will we be doing a similar workshop in Europe in the future? * Maybe something similar - could also be meetups, etc. * Suggestion: Postmortem on format, etc. of workshop. From kwade at redhat.com Wed Oct 19 16:16:44 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:16:44 -0700 Subject: Wed night social or ...? Message-ID: <20111019161643.GN29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> For Tuesday evening, directly after the workshop, Red Hat is hosting a reception at the Crowne Plaza.[1] There is an open question about Wednesday night. There may be others interested in hosting a social event, or we may want things to be ad-hoc that evening. Here are some ideas, what would you like to do? A. Ad-hoc - no formal event for the evening, but anyone who wants to meets at a large downtown San Jose location, such as Gordon Biersch Brewery: http://google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1147&bih=576&q=gordon+biersch+san+jose B. Informal organized - hold another social reception, similar to Tuesday evenings, in a different location(?). C. Formal organized - hold a sit-down dinner at an area restaurant or have it catered somewhere. Myself, I think A works best - let people self-organize, have more intimate dinners, or all meet in one location, without any pressure to attend a special event - Karsten [1] http://ovirt.org/wiki/Workshop_November_2011#Tuesday_night_reception -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ryanh at us.ibm.com Wed Oct 19 18:38:22 2011 From: ryanh at us.ibm.com (Ryan Harper) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:38:22 -0500 Subject: Wed night social or ...? In-Reply-To: <20111019161643.GN29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> References: <20111019161643.GN29939@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <20111019183822.GF19367@us.ibm.com> * Karsten Wade [2011-10-19 11:20]: > For Tuesday evening, directly after the workshop, Red Hat is hosting a > reception at the Crowne Plaza.[1] > > There is an open question about Wednesday night. There may be others > interested in hosting a social event, or we may want things to be > ad-hoc that evening. Here are some ideas, what would you like to do? > > A. Ad-hoc - no formal event for the evening, but anyone who wants to > meets at a large downtown San Jose location, such as Gordon > Biersch Brewery: > > http://google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1147&bih=576&q=gordon+biersch+san+jose > I like this option best. > B. Informal organized - hold another social reception, similar to > Tuesday evenings, in a different location(?). > > C. Formal organized - hold a sit-down dinner at an area restaurant or > have it catered somewhere. > > Myself, I think A works best - let people self-organize, have more > intimate dinners, or all meet in one location, without any pressure to > attend a special event > > - Karsten > > [1] http://ovirt.org/wiki/Workshop_November_2011#Tuesday_night_reception > -- > name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener > team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership > uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org > gpg: AD0E0C41 > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning -- Ryan Harper Software Engineer; Linux Technology Center IBM Corp., Austin, Tx ryanh at us.ibm.com From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 26 12:29:27 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 05:29:27 -0700 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda :: 2011-10-26 Message-ID: <4EA7FD27.5080404@redhat.com> oVirt Sync Call Meeting Agenda Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 14:00 - 15:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning at ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please mail rbergero at redhat.com. == Intercall Conference == Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): (800) 451-8679 International Dial-In Number: (212) 729-5016 Other International Local and Toll-Free Dial-In Numbers: Listed in meeting invite and bottom of meeting agenda. Conference code: 9197544554 If you are not actively participating in the conversation please put your line on mute to make it easier for all participants to hear. *6 -- Mute your line #6 -- Unmute your line == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Call Agenda == 1) Board news * Graduation checklist from Carl * Project news / voting status updates 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Robyn hopes to convert this section to "Schedule review/Release Progress" post workshop :) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Press release status - Kerri * Logistics Planning * Wiki updates - rooms, time slots, etc. * 2011-11-01 (Monday) evening event is settled, working on finalizing food/bar menu this morning. 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Gerrit, Hudson: status update (Karsten) * Release codebase: status update (Itamar) * #oVirt meeting bot 5) Meeting status going forward * Confirm cancellation of next week's meeting, unless there are objections. * IRC Meetings - following workshop? 6) Other updates / Agenda topics * Add your agenda item here! == International Dial-in Information == Global Access Numbers Local: Australia, Sydney Dial-In #: 0289852326 Austria, Vienna Dial-In #: 012534978196 Belgium, Brussels Dial-In #: 027920405 China Dial-In #: 4006205013 Denmark, Copenhagen Dial-In #: 32729215 Finland, Helsinki Dial-In #: 0923194436 France, Paris Dial-In #: 0170377140 Germany, Berlin Dial-In #: 030300190579 Ireland, Dublin Dial-In #: 014367793 Italy, Milan Dial-In #: 0236269529 Netherlands, Amsterdam Dial-In #: 0207975872 Norway, Oslo Dial-In #: 21033188 Singapore Dial-In #: 64840858 Spain, Barcelona Dial-In #: 935452328 Sweden, Stockholm Dial-In #: 0850513770 Switzerland, Geneva Dial-In #: 0225927881 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 02078970515 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08445790676 United Kingdom, Local Call Dial-In #: 08445790678 United States Dial-In #: 2127295016 Global Access Numbers Tollfree: Argentina Dial-In #: 8004441016 Australia Dial-In #: 1800337169 Austria Dial-In #: 0800005898 Bahamas Dial-In #: 18002054776 Bahrain Dial-In #: 80004377 Belgium Dial-In #: 080048325 Brazil Dial-In #: 08008921002 Bulgaria Dial-In #: 008001100236 Chile Dial-In #: 800370228 Colombia Dial-In #: 018009134033 Costa Rica Dial-In #: 08000131048 Cyprus Dial-In #: 80095297 Czech Republic Dial-In #: 800700318 Denmark Dial-In #: 80887114 Dominican Republic Dial-In #: 18887512313 Estonia Dial-In #: 8000100232 Finland Dial-In #: 0800117116 France Dial-In #: 0805632867 Germany Dial-In #: 8006647541 Greece Dial-In #: 00800127562 Hong Kong Dial-In #: 800930349 Hungary Dial-In #: 0680016796 Iceland Dial-In #: 8008967 India Dial-In #: 0008006501533 Indonesia Dial-In #: 0018030179162 Ireland Dial-In #: 1800932401 Israel Dial-In #: 1809462557 Italy Dial-In #: 800985897 Jamaica Dial-In #: 18002050328 Japan Dial-In #: 0120934453 Korea (South) Dial-In #: 007986517393 Latvia Dial-In #: 80003339 Lithuania Dial-In #: 880030479 Luxembourg Dial-In #: 80026595 Malaysia Dial-In #: 1800814451 Mexico Dial-In #: 0018664590915 New Zealand Dial-In #: 0800888167 Norway Dial-In #: 80012994 Panama Dial-In #: 008002269184 Philippines Dial-In #: 180011100991 Poland Dial-In #: 008001210187 Portugal Dial-In #: 800814625 Russian Federation Dial-In #: 81080028341012 Saint Kitts and Nevis Dial-In #: 18002059252 Singapore Dial-In #: 8006162235 Slovak Republic Dial-In #: 0800001441 South Africa Dial-In #: 0800981148 Spain Dial-In #: 800300524 Sweden Dial-In #: 200896860 Switzerland Dial-In #: 800650077 Taiwan Dial-In #: 00801127141 Thailand Dial-In #: 001800656966 Trinidad and Tobago Dial-In #: 18002024615 United Arab Emirates Dial-In #: 8000650591 United Kingdom Dial-In #: 08006948057 United States Dial-In #: 8004518679 Uruguay Dial-In #: 00040190315 Venezuela Dial-In #: 08001627182 From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 26 14:32:22 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 07:32:22 -0700 Subject: oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes :: 2011-10-26 Message-ID: <4EA819F6.5090800@redhat.com> oVirt Sync Call Meeting Minutes Wednesday, October 26, 2011 - 14:00 - 15:00 UTC (10:00am US Eastern, 07:00am US Pacific) == Invitees/Attendees == project-planning at ovirt.org list subscribers If you do not currently have this call on your calendar and would like it to be, please mail rbergero at redhat.com. Robyn Bergeron - Red Hat Carl Trieloff - Red Hat Mike Day - IBM Kyle Mestery - Cisco Scott Moser - Canonical Karsten Wade - Red Hat Itamar Heim - Red Hat Andy Cathrow - Red Hat Ayal Baron - Red Hat Chris Wright - Red Hat Jun Nakajima - Intel Kerri Catalozzi - Red Hat Adam Litke - IBM Jim Jagielski - Red Hat Ryan Harper - IBM Tony Gargya - IBM == Project Schedule == * Ongoing oVirt workshop promotion * oVirt Workshop - November 1, 2, 3 * USA - CA - hosted by Cisco * Press release post workshop * Community startup at workshop * Schedule first community release * Community Infrastructure * Launch at workshop * First release - January/February. == Call Agenda == 1) Board news * Graduation checklist from Carl * Project news / voting status updates * Carl will close votes on two additional projects coming into incubator, most likely tomorrow morning. * Projects can prepare something short for one of the available slots at the workshop. 2) Project launch status / Progress review * Robyn hopes to convert this section to "Schedule review/Release Progress" post workshop :) 3) oVirt Workshop / Summit - Nov. 1 - 3, Cisco Main Campus, San Jose, CA. * http://www.ovirt.org/news-and-events/workshop/ * Press release status - Kerri * Has sent draft to all the PR contacts at all of the board companies. * Going through review/approvals currently. * Mail Robyn if you want a copy. (rbergero at redhat.com) * Goal is to get approvals by Monday Oct. 31 at the latest, including quote approvals. * Kerri to update Carl by Monday on press release status. * Logistics Planning * Wiki updates - rooms, time slots, etc. * 2011-11-01 (Monday) evening event is settled, working on finalizing food/bar menu this morning. * Karsten, general update: * Hotel rooms are worked out/booked, including team from israel. * Reception Tuesday from 6-9pm. * Wiki page for each workshop day available. * Will be visiting Cisco on Monday to do technical-equipment stuff. * 2 projectors in main room - one for presentations, one for IRC channel. * Planning on streaming audio. * Schedule adjustments * Introductions, etc. Would be nice to have one person from each founding org to join for that welcome. Probably good to coordinate before Tuesday. * Breaks/etc. added. * More discussion time, whiteboard time. Moved days into "topics" - can add ad-hoc discussions more easily. * Demo Status for Tuesday morning: * Demo is ready to go. 4) Infrastructure (Karsten) * Gerrit, Hudson: status update (Karsten) * Release codebase: status update (Itamar) * oVirt engine - API and admin - hoping to make available later today. Not sure if it will be IP-based or if DNS will update by then. Should be able to update wiki. * Carl will update project page, mailing list when it is available. * #oVirt meeting bot * Etherpad * Karsten looking into meetbot / Etherpad possibilities for next week. * We have the Ubuntu Pad available as a backup. 5) Meeting status going forward * Next week's meeting cancelled. * IRC Meetings - following workshop, calls only if necessary. 6) Other updates / Agenda topics * Discussion re: folks meeting Monday afternoon to get together to faciliate getting people set up with the code base. Will continue on mailing list. From rbergero at redhat.com Wed Oct 26 15:08:18 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Cancelled: oVirt Weekly Sync Call Message-ID: <0a3cf061-01b7-4017-982c-fc0e240e0ff1@zmail06.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> A single instance of the following meeting has been cancelled: Subject: oVirt Weekly Sync Call Organizer: "Robyn Bergeron" Location: Bridge info listed in invite Time: Wednesday, November 2, 2011, 7:00:00 AM - 8:00:00 AM GMT -07:00 Arizona Invitees: project-planning at ovirt.org; pmyers at redhat.com; Adam.Mendoza at netapp.com; waskoj at us.ibm.com; imad.sousou at intel.com; fnovak at us.ibm.com; lpeer at redhat.com; bazulay at redhat.com; Jon.Benedict at netapp.com; raharper at us.ibm.com; AKOPP at de.ibm.com ... *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* The weekly oVirt sync call for 2011-11-02 is cancelled, as we'll be meeting in person during the oVirt workshop 2011-11-01 through 2011-11-03. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll be arriving from Santa Cruz with a minivan, I can stop at the hotel for a pick up of 6 persons at $designated_hour_minus_fifteen_minutes. Note that my stalwart co-coordinator, Robyn Bergeron, is landing at SJC at 8 am, so we are 50%+ less powerful to start. Anyone interested in helping, I have ideas: * Setup of audio stream with room overhead mic system. * Creative arrangement of desks/chairs in big room? * Setting up one projector to show IRC. * Registration table setup. * Creating/posting signs. * Greeting new helpers and showing them around. * Running for coffee to the Starbucks just down the street. * ... Thanks in advance for your help in making all our workshop happen. It's really coming together quite nicely. (More general details and wiki pages and such coming out to the workshop attendee mailing list over the next few days.) Thanks - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 190 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kmestery at cisco.com Sat Oct 29 01:30:47 2011 From: kmestery at cisco.com (kmestery) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 20:30:47 -0500 Subject: Insanely early @Cisco on Tuesday morning? In-Reply-To: <20111028224751.GH27628@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> References: <20111028224751.GH27628@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> Message-ID: <40B89165-E6CC-4C6F-8116-8F1684DBDD3B@cisco.com> Karsten: I will gladly help to escort you in early. I'm 90% certain my badge will let us in early, will verify Monday when I arrive. I'll be at the Crown Plaza as well, and can carpool a few folks over that morning if we need more than 6. Since I'm coming in from the Central timezone, I can be persuaded to arrive really early, just let me know the time. Thanks, Kyle On Oct 28, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: > To get to the meeting room we go through a lobby door that opens at 8 > am to the public, then a keypass door. Once past 8 am, we can manage > the keypass door through Extreme Cleverness. > > Before 8 am on Tuesday I would love the opportunity to get in to the > event space. > > Is any Cisco person i) able to do that, and ii) willing to meet me at > some insanely early hour for setting up? > > If so, what hour is insane enough for you? If not insane, what sane > hour would you pick instead? > > Anyone else who is around is welcome to join at whatever time you can > get there. I'll be arriving from Santa Cruz with a minivan, I can stop > at the hotel for a pick up of 6 persons at > $designated_hour_minus_fifteen_minutes. > > Note that my stalwart co-coordinator, Robyn Bergeron, is landing at > SJC at 8 am, so we are 50%+ less powerful to start. Anyone interested > in helping, I have ideas: > > * Setup of audio stream with room overhead mic system. > * Creative arrangement of desks/chairs in big room? > * Setting up one projector to show IRC. > * Registration table setup. > * Creating/posting signs. > * Greeting new helpers and showing them around. > * Running for coffee to the Starbucks just down the street. > * ... > > Thanks in advance for your help in making all our workshop > happen. It's really coming together quite nicely. > > (More general details and wiki pages and such coming out to the > workshop attendee mailing list over the next few days.) > > Thanks - Karsten > -- > name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener > team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership > uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org > gpg: AD0E0C41 > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning From kwade at redhat.com Sat Oct 29 18:46:47 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 14:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Etherpad Message-ID: Someone from Canonical (Dann?) offered to use the Etherpad instance on ubuntu.com. Please! Tell me what to do. I want to setup a few dozen in advance, with intro language, etc. We'll get an oVirt Etherpad instance in to the Infrastructure discussion queue. Meanwhile, it will be nice to have a just-works solution for next week. Note that we move content from the pads to the wiki _permanently_ after a session is complete. Thus ovirt.org/wiki gets the goodness in the end. ;) - Karsten From rbergero at redhat.com Sat Oct 29 20:39:23 2011 From: rbergero at redhat.com (Robyn Bergeron) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 13:39:23 -0700 Subject: Etherpad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EAC647B.8020608@redhat.com> On 10/29/2011 11:46 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: > Someone from Canonical (Dann?) offered to use the Etherpad instance on ubuntu.com. Please! Tell me what to do. I want to setup a few dozen in advance, with intro language, etc. etherpad.ubuntu.com, just need to make an account :) > We'll get an oVirt Etherpad instance in to the Infrastructure discussion queue. Meanwhile, it will be nice to have a just-works solution for next week. > > Note that we move content from the pads to the wiki _permanently_ after a session is complete. Thus ovirt.org/wiki gets the goodness in the end. ;) > > - Karsten > _______________________________________________ > Project-planning mailing list > Project-planning at ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/project-planning From kwade at redhat.com Mon Oct 31 04:28:12 2011 From: kwade at redhat.com (Karsten Wade) Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:28:12 -0700 Subject: Etherpad In-Reply-To: <4EAC647B.8020608@redhat.com> References: <4EAC647B.8020608@redhat.com> Message-ID: <20111031042812.GA27628@terpsichore.fairy-talefarm.com> On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 01:39:23PM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > On 10/29/2011 11:46 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: > > Someone from Canonical (Dann?) offered to use the Etherpad instance > > on ubuntu.com. Please! Tell me what to do. I want to setup a few > > dozen in advance, with intro language, etc. > > etherpad.ubuntu.com, just need to make an account :) I'm running in to a problem with circular login and OpenID. After logging with OpenID I get this: Authorization is required to access http://etherpad.ubuntu.com/ Please join the ubuntu-etherpad group on Launchpad to access this site. To do this, visit https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad/ You are currently logged in as https://login.ubuntu.com/+id/JzTsEhY. (logout) I then tried (with a different browser to skip cookie hassle) to create a new ubuntu.com account, which was used as an OpenID account, and then had the same problem as above/ Looking at the ubuntu-etherpad group, it seems to have been created about 2 days ago and have seven members and one pending approval. So perhaps access was restricted more recently? I'll join that group and ask around what is going on. - Karsten -- name: Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Community Gardener team: Red Hat Community Architecture & Leadership uri: http://communityleadershipteam.org http://TheOpenSourceWay.org gpg: AD0E0C41 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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