Ovirt Community - Becoming a maintainer

Carl Trieloff cctrieloff at redhat.com
Mon Sep 19 21:04:31 UTC 2011



Thanks, I'll take a look in a bit once I've solved the current set of go
live issues I'm working on

Carl.


On 09/19/2011 05:01 PM, Doron Fediuck wrote:
>
> (re-sending since I didn't get a reply for it)
>
>
> On Monday 12 September 2011 21:29:12 Carl Trieloff wrote:
>
> > On 09/11/2011 05:16 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote:
>
> > > On Sunday 11 September 2011 12:11:27 Itamar Heim wrote:
>
> > >> Cc'ing some existing leads for comments
>
>
> <SNIP>
>
>
> > > 0. Title is missing. I'm guessing it's the same as document name?
>
> > >
>
> > > 1. There's a combined usage of 'project' and 'sub-project'. I
> suggest using 'project' to simplify it.
>
> > > If you take Apache for example, they host projects, and even real
> sub-projects (http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_proposal.html)
>
> > > they end up being listed as projects
> (http://projects.apache.org/indexes/alpha.html#D).
>
> >
>
> > done
>
> >
>
> > > 2. The following needs some re-phrasing:
>
> > >
>
> > > IT is expected however that if you have contributed doc, and are
> not an expect on code that you
>
> > > don’t ack patches for example. You can also be voted into one
> sub-project and not another based
>
> > > on your area of influence, or you could get into them all.
>
> > >
>
> > > * IT => It
>
> > > * doc => a document?
>
> > > * and are not an expect => and are not an expert?
>
> > > - Generally this paragraph begins with one thing, and ends with
> something completely different.
>
> > > I'd think of adding each sentence to a relevant paragraph carrying
> the same theme / subject.
>
> >
>
> > re-worked, see what you think. (go ahead and edit it directly if
> needed.)
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> > > 3. There are terms that need clarification, or typos. For example:
> wsdm. Is it VDSM? Something else?
>
> >
>
> > fixed
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> > > 4. And probably the most important. This document is _also_ about
> being a maintainer. But it's
>
> > > _also_ about being a (sub-)project contributer (and maybe some
> more also's);
>
> > >
>
> > > - Contributing to a sub-project
>
> > > - Adding to the discussions and contributing code
>
> > > and there's more contents about giving to the community. This is
> all relevant
>
> > > to project / community membership.
>
> > >
>
> > > => This document should be spitted into community membership
> document and
>
> > > (sub-)project maintenance. Currently it's a mix of both.
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Don't we want it mixed? why would we draw a line between the two roles?
>
> > having people thinking of community and code together is healthy.
>
> >
>
> > Carl.
>
> >
>
>
> OK, looks much better now.
>
> Some final (I hope) remarks;
>
>
> 1. We now have 2 "Becoming a maintainer" headers. I'd change the 2nd
> one to
>
> something like "Applying for a project maintainer role" or anything alike.
>
>
> 2. WRT contribution and maintenance mixture, it takes the focus off the
>
> document's topic, for no visible reason. I'll try to explain with 2
> examples;
>
>
> a. The car
>
> You just bought a new car, and you look into the owner manual, looking
>
> for a quick & simple way to adjust your radio pre-set stations.
>
> You get the information in one chapter which includes the complete wiring
>
> scheme, board design and explanation on connector types to use when
> connecting
>
> to amplifiers or phone car-kit. Will you think it's very helpful and
> easy to
>
> understand how you should set your radio buttons?
>
>
> Now think of the mechanic guy in the garage, getting the same manual,
>
> which he's supposed to use in order to verify what is short-circuiting
>
> the car embedded media controller. What will he think when he needs to
>
> read the connector description along with setting radio buttons?
>
>
> Is mixing all the information a good idea? Does it help both guys? Any
>
> of them?
>
>
> b. Git Book
>
> http://book.git-scm.com/
>
> As you can see there are separate chapters for each type of user;
>
> Basic, Intermediate and Advanced.
>
>
> I'm sure someone who looks for a way to recover corrupted objects,
>
> won't find git clone syntax very helpful while he looks for the relevant
>
> information.
>
>
> 3. Now back to us...
>
> I think the following should be used in a different document;
>
> - Contributing to a project
>
> - Adding to the discussions and contributing code
>
> - Large projects
>
>
> These (and maybe some more) should be located in a document
>
> focused on general community contribution and oVirt project
>
> specific contribution rules / policy / code / coding-conventions,
>
> etc. Apache,for instance, asks every contributer to sign something
>
> making the code contribution owned by / used by the relevant
>
> project, so there are no license / rights issues. This could
>
> be a good place for explaining such a signature, should we
>
> require one.
>
>
> Current document should be lean and mean; Containing the relevant
>
> information on becoming a maintainer, responsibilities, ethics,
>
> policies, etc. The document should start by referring to the
>
> project contribution document. In this way you give more
>
> background if needed.
>
>
> -- 
>
>
> /d
>
>
> "All computers wait at the same speed."
>
>

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