[Users] Request for Wiki - dates

[Bob Doolittle]

The problem with (the obvious implementation of) a flag like that is you 
have to trust everybody in order to believe it.

Let's face it, we've all been newbs at one time or another. Operator 
error happens all the time. If just anybody can flag a page as "out of 
date" (and if it only takes one vote), is the flag actually useful? 
Probably not.

Seems like a good candidate for crowd sourcing. What if we could vote 
(up or down) on the usefulness of a page? What if old votes timed out so 
you always saw a reasonably current indication (I suppose a vote of 0 
might also indicate a page nobody visits any more). This would flag 
pages that need work, and also pages that are very helpful so need 
vigilance to keep them so. A place for talking about the page would also 
be useful (may be already there, I don't think I ever had a login for 
the Wiki).

Sounds hard to do, but one can dream. Maybe somebody has a clever idea 
of how to do this.

A date should be pretty easy, though ;)

-Bob

On 03/14/2014 01:16 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> What I'd love to see is a way for people to flag content out-of-date.
> "Last updated" doesn't tell you about the feature that is stable and
> unchanged since 3.0, nor does it tell you that the feature is in
> constant flux and the latest commit just changed everything.
>
> You need 2 dates for maximum usefulness: "Last updated", and "Flagged
> out of date" - if last updated is after the flagged date, something is
> wrong (flag should have been removed). If the flag is there then the
> page needs updating. Ideally, flagging the page would indicate the
> reason for the flag.
>
> Anyone know how you'd do this in a maintainable way in MediaWiki?
>
> Cheers,
> Dave.
>
> On 03/13/2014 05:53 PM, Bob Doolittle wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As most are aware, there's a lot of information on the Ovirt Wiki that's
>> out of date. In spite of our best efforts, that will probably always be
>> true - it's the nature of Wikis.
>>
>> When I look for information on our Wiki, I never know where the most
>> current information is.
>>
>> I think it would be really helpful if someplace on each Wiki page was a
>> useful date to let us know the currency of the info. Probably the most
>> useful date is last-modified, although creation date might also be
>> useful. Maybe we could even map/display the date to the version number
>> of whatever the current stable release was at the time for context
>> (sometimes the content of a page calls out a particular version it's
>> addressing, but a lot of the time it does not).
>>
>> Just as an example, I want to find out about migrating my existing
>> configuration to self-hosted, using 3.4 RC2. A google search shows the
>> following links (in order shown):
>>
>> http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Self_Hosted_Engine
>> http://www.ovirt.org/Migrate_to_Hosted_Engine
>> http://www.ovirt.org/Hosted_Engine_Howto
>> ...
>>
>> I'm sure the Features page is ancient at this point. It's hard to tell
>> about the 2nd page.
>>
>> Of course the date a page was last modified doesn't directly indicate
>> how correct/current the information is, but there's a correlation.
>> Knowing the date would be useful in making a judgment. It might even
>> help the task of identifying and cleaning up obsolete pages.
>>
>> Easy to do?
>>
>> -Bob
>>
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