[ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release is now available for testing
Yaniv Kaul
ykaul at redhat.com
Fri Nov 3 19:10:15 UTC 2017
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:46 AM, Arman Khalatyan <arm2arm at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just tested the new 4.2, looks new shiny UI, thanks.
>
> I would like to join to Jiris statement, ovirt should become more
> stable, clean and useful.
> The right or left clicks or UI designs, mobile friendly or not,those
> futures are the secondary tasks for me.
> For those who would like to manage the vms from the mobile devices
> they can use mOvirt app.
> I wish that the development team will concentrate on the main
> advertised futures to make them stable.
> as a user I wish that the following points can make it stronger:
> - please make a ovirt as a FULL HA solution
> - one of the weak points of the ovirt is a spm, this should go away in
> the first point, not the right click one:).
>
This is a bit more complex than you assume.
> - hosts management like a foreman, but without foreman.
>
This makes no sense whatsoever. We'd like to integrate with best of breed
projects, not replace them.
> - strong solution with a multirail HA storage
>
I'm not familiar with the term - can you expand on this?
> - move hosts complete to disk-less infrastructure, easy to scale-up
>
Boot from SAN for example?
> - scheduled backup solution integrated in the gui/api
>
Again, I assume a separate utility can probably do a better job.
> - reasonable reports,( similar like dwd in 3.6)
>
Metrics are in the works with Elastic and Kibana. DWH is still there.
> Most of the points are almost done, but we have always hire or there
> half-solved problems.
>
Patches are welcome, of course.
Y.
>
>
> Greetings from Potsdam,
> Arman.
>
> PS
> an Ovirt user since 3.x
> 8hosts >50Vms
> 4hosts > 6VMS
> 10G,IB,RDMA.
> looking to deploy ovirt on a cluster environment on user demand.
>
> On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Jiří Sléžka <jiri.slezka at slu.cz> wrote:
> > On 10/31/2017 06:57 PM, Oved Ourfali wrote:
> >> As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You
> >> see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't
> >> considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly guideline
> >> (patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the application).
> >>
> >> We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high
> demand.
> >
> > I'm using right click time to time, but for me is much more important
> > clean, simple and compatible UI. Especially if this means it will be
> > possible to simple select and copy any text or log messages from UI.
> > This is my biggest pain when interacting with manager.
> >
> > Cheers, Jiri
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks for the feedback!
> >> Oved
> >>
> >> On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <budic at onholyground.com
> >> <mailto:budic at onholyground.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will
> >> miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but
> >> I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize ease
> >> of use on Desktop over Mobile!
> >>
> >>
> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------
> >>> *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.frediani at upx.com
> >>> <mailto:fernando.frediani at upx.com>>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release
> >>> is now available for testing
> >>> *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT
> >>> *To:* users at ovirt.org <mailto:users at ovirt.org>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Will the right click dialog be available in the final release?
> >>>>> Because,
> >>>>> currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to
> >>>>> interact with
> >>>>> object (migrate, maintenance...)
> >>>>>
> >>>> Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.
> >>>>
> >>>> Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:
> >>>> - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while
> >>>> its not 100%
> >>>> there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now.
> >>>> Mobile devices
> >>>> don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would
> >>>> make no
> >>>> sense.
> >>> Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile
> >>> usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day
> >>> operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments and
> >>> manage their large environments. If having both options where you
> >>> can switch between then is nice, but if something should prevail
> >>> should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock Trading
> >>> interface or something you need that level or flexibility and
> >>> mobility to do static things anytime anywhere.
> >>>
> >>> So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are
> >>> pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because
> >>> of a new trend or buzz stuff.
> >>> Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will
> >>> be for quite a while.
> >>>> - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of
> >>>> ours and you
> >>>> can do things like copy from the menu.
> >>>> - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the
> >>>> buttons/kebab menu
> >>>> available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly
> >>>> used actions as
> >>>> a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter
> >>>> the interface.
> >>>> We traded an extra click for some mouse travel
> >>>> - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu
> >>>> because its
> >>>> a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that
> >>>> was only
> >>>> available in the right click menu.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move
> >>>> or not. For
> >>>> now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it
> >>>> back, it is
> >>>> certainly possible we will put it back.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster
> >>>>>> and better
> >>>>>> than before.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
> >>>>>>>> The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of
> >>>>>>>> the First
> >>>>>>>> Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to
> >>>>>>>> be used
> >>>>>>>> in production.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to
> ask
> >>>>>>>> questions and interact with developers and users.All issues
> >>>>>>>> or bugs
> >>>>>>>> should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2].
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version.
> This
> >>>>>>>> release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one
> >>>>>>>> thousand
> >>>>>>>> bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity
> >>>>>>>> fixes, on
> >>>>>>>> top of oVirt 4.1 series.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>> The Administration Portalhas been completely
> >>>>>>>> redesigned using
> >>>>>>>> Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web application
> >>>>>>>> design.
> >>>>>>>> It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for an
> >>>>>>>> improved
> >>>>>>>> user experience.
> >>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>> There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users.
> >>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>> A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been
> >>>>>>>> added to the
> >>>>>>>> New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal.
> >>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>> Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open
> >>>>>>>> vSwitch software
> >>>>>>>> defined networking (SDN).
> >>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>> oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU.
> >>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>> The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common
> >>>>>>>> administration tasks.
> >>>>>>>> *
> >>>>>>>> Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For more information about these and other features, check
> >>>>>>>> out the
> >>>>>>>> oVirt 4.2.0 blog post
> >>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/
> >>>>>>>> <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le
> >>>>>>>> architectures for:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade
> >>>>>>>> instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Notes:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - oVirt Appliance is already available.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Additional Resources:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights:
> >>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Get more oVirt project updates on Twitter:
> >>>>>>>> https://twitter.com/ovirt
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog:
> >>>>>>>> http://www.ovirt.org/blog/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=
> oVirt <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>
> >>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=
> oVirt
> >>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=
> oVirt>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
> >>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>
> >>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
> >>>>>>>> <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> SANDRO BONAZZOLA
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG
> >>>>>>>> VIRTUALIZATION R&D
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.teraplan.it/redhat-osd-2017/
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.teraplan.it/redhat-osd-2017/>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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