<div dir="ltr">When I trigger the live snapshot while pinging the guest I get the following high latency but no packet loss:<div><br></div><div>...</div><div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=32 ttl=63 time=0.267 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=33 ttl=63 time=0.319 ms</div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=34 ttl=63 time=0.231 ms</div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=35 ttl=63 time=0.294 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=36 ttl=63 time=0.357 ms</div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=37 ttl=63 time=10375 ms</b></div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=38 ttl=63 time=9375 ms</b></div>
<div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=39 ttl=63 time=8375 ms</b></div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=40 ttl=63 time=7375 ms</b></div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=41 ttl=63 time=6375 ms</b></div>
<div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=42 ttl=63 time=5375 ms</b></div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=43 ttl=63 time=4375 ms</b></div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=44 ttl=63 time=3375 ms</b></div>
<div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=45 ttl=63 time=2375 ms</b></div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=46 ttl=63 time=1375 ms</b></div><div><b>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=47 ttl=63 time=375 ms</b></div>
<div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=48 ttl=63 time=0.324 ms</div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=49 ttl=63 time=0.232 ms</div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=50 ttl=63 time=0.318 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=51 ttl=63 time=0.297 ms</div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=52 ttl=63 time=0.343 ms</div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=53 ttl=63 time=0.293 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=54 ttl=63 time=0.286 ms</div></div><div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=55 ttl=63 time=0.302 ms</div><div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=56 ttl=63 time=0.304 ms</div>
<div>64 bytes from <a href="http://10.0.6.228">10.0.6.228</a>: icmp_seq=57 ttl=63 time=0.305 ms</div><div>^C</div><div>--- 10.0.6.228 ping statistics ---</div><div>57 packets transmitted, 57 received, 0% packet loss, time 56000ms</div>
<div>rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.228/1037.547/10375.035/2535.522 ms, pipe 11</div></div><div><br></div><div>So the guest is in some sort of paused mode, but its interesting that the pings seems to be queued rather than dropped.</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Maor Lipchuk <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mlipchuk@redhat.com" target="_blank">mlipchuk@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
>From the engine logs it seems that indeed live snapshot is called (The<br>
command is snapshotVDSCommand see [1]).<br>
This is done right after the snapshot has been created in the VM and it<br>
signals the qemu process to start using the new volume created.<br>
<br>
When live snapshot does not succeed we should see in the log something<br>
like &quot;Wasn&#39;t able to live snapshot due to error:...&quot;, but it does not<br>
appear so it seems that this worked out fine.<br>
<br>
At some point I can see in the logs that VDSM reports to the engine that<br>
the VM is paused.<br>
<br>
<br>
[1]<br>
2014-02-02 09:41:20,564 INFO<br>
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SnapshotVDSCommand]<br>
(pool-6-thread-49) START, SnapshotVDSCommand(HostName = ovirt002, HostId<br>
= 3080fb61-2d03-4008-b47f-9b66276a4257,<br>
vmId=e261e707-a21f-4ae8-9cff-f535f4430446), log id: 7e0d7872<br>
2014-02-02 09:41:21,119 INFO<br>
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.VdsUpdateRunTimeInfo]<br>
(DefaultQuartzScheduler_Worker-93) VM snapshot-test<br>
e261e707-a21f-4ae8-9cff-f535f4430446 moved from Up --&gt; Paused<br>
2014-02-02 09:41:30,234 INFO<br>
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.SnapshotVDSCommand]<br>
(pool-6-thread-49) FINISH, SnapshotVDSCommand, log id: 7e0d7872<br>
2014-02-02 09:41:30,238 INFO<br>
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.CreateSnapshotCommand] (pool-6-thread-49)<br>
[67ea047a] Ending command successfully:<br>
org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.CreateSnapshotCommand<br>
...<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Maor<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 02/03/2014 06:24 PM, Dafna Ron wrote:<br>
&gt; Thanks Steve.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; from the logs I can see that the create snapshot succeeds and that the<br>
&gt; vm is resumed.<br>
&gt; the vm moves to pause as part of libvirt flows:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2014-02-02 14:41:20.872+0000: 5843: debug : qemuProcessHandleStop:728 :<br>
&gt; Transitioned guest snapshot-test to paused state<br>
&gt; 2014-02-02 14:41:30.031+0000: 5843: debug : qemuProcessHandleResume:776<br>
&gt; : Transitioned guest snapshot-test out of paused into resumed state<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; There are bugs here but I am not sure yet if this is libvirt regression<br>
&gt; or engine.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I&#39;m adding Elad and Maor since in engine logs I can&#39;t see anything<br>
&gt; calling for live snapshot (only for snapshot) - Maor, shouldn&#39;t live<br>
&gt; snapshot command be logged somewhere in the logs?<br>
&gt; Is it possible that engine is calling to create snapshot and not create<br>
&gt; live snapshot which is why the vm pauses?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Elad, if engine is not logging live snapshot anywhere I would open a bug<br>
&gt; for engine (to print that in the logs).<br>
&gt; Also, there is a bug in vdsm log for sdc where the below is logged as<br>
&gt; ERROR and not INFO:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thread-23::ERROR::2014-02-02<br>
&gt; 09:51:19,497::sdc::137::Storage.StorageDomainCache::(_findDomain)<br>
&gt; looking for unfetched domain a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5<br>
&gt; Thread-23::ERROR::2014-02-02<br>
&gt; 09:51:19,497::sdc::154::Storage.StorageDomainCache::(_findUnfetchedDomain)<br>
&gt; looking for domain a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If the engine was sending live snapshot or if there is no difference in<br>
&gt; the two commands in engine side than I would open a bug for libvirt for<br>
&gt; pausing the vm during live snapshot.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Dafna<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 02/03/2014 02:41 PM, Steve Dainard wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; [root@ovirt002 ~]# vdsClient -s 0 getStorageDomainInfo<br>
&gt;&gt; a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5<br>
&gt;&gt; uuid = a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5<br>
&gt;&gt; pool = [&#39;fcb89071-6cdb-4972-94d1-c9324cebf814&#39;]<br>
&gt;&gt; lver = 5<br>
&gt;&gt; version = 3<br>
&gt;&gt; role = Master<br>
&gt;&gt; remotePath = gluster-store-vip:/rep1<br>
&gt;&gt; spm_id = 2<br>
&gt;&gt; type = NFS<br>
&gt;&gt; class = Data<br>
&gt;&gt; master_ver = 1<br>
&gt;&gt; name = gluster-store-rep1<br>
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&gt;&gt; On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Dafna Ron &lt;<a href="mailto:dron@redhat.com">dron@redhat.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:dron@redhat.com">dron@redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;     please run vdsClient -s 0 getStorageDomainInfo<br>
&gt;&gt;     a52938f7-2cf4-4771-acb2-0c78d14999e5<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;     Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;     Dafna<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;     On 02/02/2014 03:02 PM, Steve Dainard wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;         Logs attached with VM running on qemu-kvm-rhev packages<br>
&gt;&gt; installed.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt;         On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Dafna Ron &lt;<a href="mailto:dron@redhat.com">dron@redhat.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;         &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:dron@redhat.com">dron@redhat.com</a>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:dron@redhat.com">dron@redhat.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;         &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:dron@redhat.com">dron@redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;             can you please upload full engine, vdsm, libvirt and vm&#39;s<br>
&gt;&gt;         qemu logs?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;             On 02/02/2014 02:08 AM, Steve Dainard wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 I have two CentOS 6.5 Ovirt hosts (ovirt001, ovirt002)<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 I&#39;ve installed the applicable qemu-kvm-rhev packages<br>
&gt;&gt;         from this<br>
&gt;&gt;                 site: <a href="http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm32/Packages/" target="_blank">http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm32/Packages/</a> on<br>
&gt;&gt;         ovirt002.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 On ovirt001 if I take a live snapshot:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 Snapshot &#39;test qemu-kvm&#39; creation for VM<br>
&gt;&gt;         &#39;snapshot-test&#39; was<br>
&gt;&gt;                 initiated by admin@internal.<br>
&gt;&gt;                 The VM is paused<br>
&gt;&gt;                 Failed to create live snapshot &#39;test qemu-kvm&#39; for VM<br>
&gt;&gt;                 &#39;snapshot-test&#39;. VM restart is recommended.<br>
&gt;&gt;                 Failed to complete snapshot &#39;test qemu-kvm&#39; creation<br>
&gt;&gt;         for VM<br>
&gt;&gt;                 &#39;snapshot-test&#39;.<br>
&gt;&gt;                 The VM is then started, and the status for the snapshot<br>
&gt;&gt;                 changes to OK.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 On ovirt002 (with the packages from dreyou) I don&#39;t<br>
&gt;&gt;         get any<br>
&gt;&gt;                 messages about a snapshot failing, but my VM is still<br>
&gt;&gt;         paused<br>
&gt;&gt;                 to complete the snapshot. Is there something else<br>
&gt;&gt;         other than<br>
&gt;&gt;                 the qemu-kvm-rhev packages that would enable this<br>
&gt;&gt;         functionality?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 I&#39;ve looked for some information on when the packages<br>
&gt;&gt;         would be<br>
&gt;&gt;                 built as required in the CentOS repos, but I don&#39;t see<br>
&gt;&gt;                 anything definitive.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;         <a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/019126.html" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/users/2013-December/019126.html</a><br>
&gt;&gt;                 Looks like one of the maintainers is waiting for<br>
&gt;&gt;         someone to<br>
&gt;&gt;                 tell him what flags need to be set.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 Also, another thread here:<br>
&gt;&gt;         <a href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.ovirt.arch/1618" target="_blank">http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.ovirt.arch/1618</a><br>
&gt;&gt;                 same maintainer, mentioning that he hasn&#39;t seen<br>
&gt;&gt;         anything in<br>
&gt;&gt;                 the bug tracker.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 There is a bug here:<br>
&gt;&gt;         <a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009100" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1009100</a> that seems<br>
&gt;&gt;                 to have ended in finding a way for qemu to expose<br>
&gt;&gt;         whether it<br>
&gt;&gt;                 supports live snapshots, rather than figuring out how<br>
&gt;&gt;         to get<br>
&gt;&gt;                 the CentOS team the info they need to build the<br>
&gt;&gt;         packages with<br>
&gt;&gt;                 the proper flags set.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 I have bcc&#39;d both dreyou (packaged the qemu-kvm-rhev<br>
&gt;&gt;         packages<br>
&gt;&gt;                 listed above) and Russ (CentOS maintainer mentioned in<br>
&gt;&gt; the<br>
&gt;&gt;                 other threads) if they wish to chime in and perhaps<br>
&gt;&gt;                 collaborate on which flags, if any, should be set for the<br>
&gt;&gt;                 qemu-kvm builds so we can get a CentOS bug report<br>
&gt;&gt;         going and<br>
&gt;&gt;                 hammer this out.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 Thanks everyone.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 **crosses fingers and hopes for live snapshots soon**<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
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&gt;&gt;                 On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Steve Dainard<br>
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&gt;&gt;         &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:sdainard@miovision.com">sdainard@miovision.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                 &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:sdainard@miovision.com">sdainard@miovision.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt;         &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:sdainard@miovision.com">sdainard@miovision.com</a>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                         How would you developers, speaking for the<br>
&gt;&gt;                 oVirt-community,<br>
&gt;&gt;                         propose to<br>
&gt;&gt;                         solve this for CentOS _now_ ?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                         I would imagine that the easiest way is that<br>
&gt;&gt;         you build and<br>
&gt;&gt;                         host this one<br>
&gt;&gt;                         package(qemu-kvm-rhev), since you´ve basically<br>
&gt;&gt;         already<br>
&gt;&gt;                 have<br>
&gt;&gt;                         the source<br>
&gt;&gt;                         and recipe (since you´re already providing it<br>
&gt;&gt;         for RHEV<br>
&gt;&gt;                         anyway). Then,<br>
&gt;&gt;                         once that´s in place, it´s more a question of<br>
&gt;&gt;         where to<br>
&gt;&gt;                 host the<br>
&gt;&gt;                         packages, in what repository. Be it your own,<br>
&gt;&gt;         or some<br>
&gt;&gt;                 other<br>
&gt;&gt;                         repo set up<br>
&gt;&gt;                         for the SIG.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                         This is my view, how I as a user view this issue.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                     I think this is a pretty valid view.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;                     What would it take to get the correct qemu package<br>
&gt;&gt;         hosted<br>
&gt;&gt;                 in the<br>
&gt;&gt;                     ovirt repo?<br>
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