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Sorry, I see you already updated this bug... The name Matt instead of <B><A HREF="http://projects.theforeman.org/users/4256">Yama Kasi</A>&nbsp;</B> misled me :-%<BR>
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On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 19:33 +0200, Jorick Astrego wrote:<BR>
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    I think this is the bug you're experiencing:<BR>
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    <A HREF="http://projects.theforeman.org/issues/4996">http://projects.theforeman.org/issues/4996</A><BR>
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    and maybe related to:<BR>
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    <A HREF="http://projects.theforeman.org/issues/4684">http://projects.theforeman.org/issues/4684</A><BR>
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    Kind regards,<BR>
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    Jorick Astrego<BR>
    Netbulae B.V.<BR>
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    On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 21:05 +0200, Matt . wrote: <BR>
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        Yeah that is no problem but it seems to hang only on the template part... when you have a Default DC it should not happen.<BR>
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        As I don't have it (and don't want it to avoid confusions) I'm stuck there and that needs a workaround :)<BR>
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        2014-04-08 20:59 GMT+02:00 Darrell Budic &lt;<A HREF="mailto:darrell.budic@zenfire.com">darrell.budic@zenfire.com</A>&gt;:<BR>
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            I didn&#8217;t mean to imply they worked perfectly, but you can make it provision a new host successfully, and it does see to do host management fine with puppet. Here&#8217;s the workaround I&#8217;m using at the moment (and need to get off my butt and report, as soon as I finish cleaning up openssl versions&#8230;): <BR>
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            0: functioning smart-proxy for dhcp &amp; tftp, ovirt compute resource bound and displaying info on currently running vms, compute resources setup with custom template (had to uncheck the one pci card option even though there&#8217;s only one display) <BR>
            1: create new host in foreman on ovirt compute resource, save/commit <BR>
            &nbsp; : foreman does it&#8217;s stuff, actually creates the VM, then hangs waiting for ovirt to start the VM, barber pole on foreman screen <BR>
            &nbsp; : you can try starting the VM by hand, it will start to kickstart, then fail partway through while not finding the kickstart template from foreman <BR>
            2: let this barber pole time out (default time 600 sec, might want to shorten for testing), then save the host again <BR>
            &nbsp; : it will go to host view, and now it will actually access the kickstart templates <BR>
            &nbsp; : but it deleted the VM! so you have to recreate it by hand <BR>
            3: recreate and PXE boot your VM, this time it builds successfully and foreman takes over management just fine (including vm power management, oddly enough) <BR>
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            A little headache, but I haven&#8217;t had time to followup on it with foreman yet. <BR>
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            On Apr 8, 2014, at 12:52 PM, Matt . &lt;<A HREF="mailto:yamakasi.014@gmail.com">yamakasi.014@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote: <BR>
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                Thanks for the update!<BR>
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                The strange thing is that it's not working in any way (new provisioning) on 1.5. Back those days I installed a new 1.4.2 as I wanted to migrate to CentOS anyway because a 1.4.2 stopped working well, even the rbovirt update and so on didn't fix it.<BR>
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                I have ran 1.4.2 very well against 3.3 and if I'm right also for one day to 3.4, but I didn't need to provision after my tests so did the upgrade which went well.<BR>
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                I need 3.4 as it supports mixed Storage, so I'm bound to that as I don't want to do such a major upgrade on a running system for now, so I went and well. Only FM doesn't mix with it, also not the nightly's it seems.<BR>
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                Are there other options ?<BR>
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                2014-04-08 16:56 GMT+02:00 Darrell Budic &lt;<A HREF="mailto:darrell.budic@zenfire.com">darrell.budic@zenfire.com</A>&gt;: <BR>
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                    If this is the same problem I had, this is a known issue in Foreman 1.4.2. API update in Ovirt broke the rbovirt integration component:&nbsp;<A HREF="http://projects.theforeman.org/issues/4346#change-13781">http://projects.theforeman.org/issues/4346#change-13781</A> . I didn't investigate mine in as much depth, but your original symptoms look the same as what I saw. <BR>
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                    1.5 nightlies mostly work, I'm using them with good success. They appear to have some trouble starting a new VM for provisioning, I need to get on reproducing and reporting that. I find you can fail the first build attempt (no provisioning template until then), then manually start the VM it runs it properly from there. <BR>
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                    On Apr 8, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Matt . &lt;<A HREF="mailto:yamakasi.014@gmail.com">yamakasi.014@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote: <BR>
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                        Hi,<BR>
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                        The only thing I see in the engine.log is a bunch of:<BR>
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                        2014-04-08 14:47:51,167 INFO&nbsp; [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginUserCommand] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-3) Running command: LoginUserCommand internal: false.<BR>
                        2014-04-08 14:47:51,303 INFO&nbsp; [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LogoutUserCommand] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-3) [621339b] Running command: LogoutUserCommand internal: false.<BR>
                        2014-04-08 14:47:51,321 INFO&nbsp; [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-3) [621339b] Correlation ID: 621339b, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User admin logged out.<BR>
                        2014-04-08 14:47:51,352 INFO&nbsp; [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LoginUserCommand] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-4) Running command: LoginUserCommand internal: false.<BR>
                        2014-04-08 14:47:51,418 INFO&nbsp; [org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.LogoutUserCommand] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-4) [67db2722] Running command: LogoutUserCommand internal: false.<BR>
                        2014-04-08 14:47:51,429 INFO&nbsp; [org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-4) [67db2722] Correlation ID: 67db2722, Call Stack: null, Custom Event ID: -1, Message: User admin logged out.<BR>
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                        And in the server.log:<BR>
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                        2014-04-08 14:47:50,208 WARN&nbsp; [org.jboss.resteasy.core.SynchronousDispatcher] (ajp--127.0.0.1-8702-1) failed to execute: javax.ws.rs.WebApplicationException<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.ovirt.engine.api.common.util.CompletenessAssertor.validateParameters(CompletenessAssertor.java:115) [interface-common-jaxrs.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.ovirt.engine.api.restapi.resource.BaseBackendResource.validateParameters(BaseBackendResource.java:324) [restapi-jaxrs.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.ovirt.engine.api.restapi.resource.BaseBackendResource.validateParameters(BaseBackendResource.java:318) [restapi-jaxrs.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.ovirt.engine.api.restapi.resource.BackendVmsResource.add(BackendVmsResource.java:104) [restapi-jaxrs.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method) [rt.jar:1.7.0_51]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:57) [rt.jar:1.7.0_51]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43) [rt.jar:1.7.0_51]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:606) [rt.jar:1.7.0_51]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.core.MethodInjectorImpl.invoke(MethodInjectorImpl.java:155) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.core.ResourceMethod.invokeOnTarget(ResourceMethod.java:257) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.core.ResourceMethod.invoke(ResourceMethod.java:222) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.core.ResourceMethod.invoke(ResourceMethod.java:211) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.core.SynchronousDispatcher.getResponse(SynchronousDispatcher.java:525) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.core.SynchronousDispatcher.invoke(SynchronousDispatcher.java:502) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.core.SynchronousDispatcher.invoke(SynchronousDispatcher.java:119) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.ServletContainerDispatcher.service(ServletContainerDispatcher.java:208) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.HttpServletDispatcher.service(HttpServletDispatcher.java:55) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.resteasy.plugins.server.servlet.HttpServletDispatcher.service(HttpServletDispatcher.java:50) [resteasy-jaxrs-2.3.2.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:847) [jboss-servlet-api_3.0_spec-1.0.0.Final.jar:1.0.0.Final]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:329) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.ovirt.engine.core.authentication.AuthenticationFilter.doFilter(AuthenticationFilter.java:80) [common.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:280) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:275) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:161) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBase.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:489) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.as.web.security.SecurityContextAssociationValve.invoke(SecurityContextAssociationValve.java:153) [jboss-as-web-7.1.1.Final.jar:7.1.1.Final]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:155) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:102) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.jboss.web.rewrite.RewriteValve.invoke(RewriteValve.java:466) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invoke(StandardEngineValve.java:109) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.catalina.connector.CoyoteAdapter.service(CoyoteAdapter.java:368) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.coyote.ajp.AjpProcessor.process(AjpProcessor.java:505) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.coyote.ajp.AjpProtocol$AjpConnectionHandler.process(AjpProtocol.java:445) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.JIoEndpoint$Worker.run(JIoEndpoint.java:930) [jbossweb-7.0.13.Final.jar:]<BR>
                        &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744) [rt.jar:1.7.0_51]<BR>
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                        2014-04-08 14:40 GMT+02:00 Michal Skrivanek &lt;<A HREF="mailto:michal.skrivanek@redhat.com">michal.skrivanek@redhat.com</A>&gt;: <BR>
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                            On Apr 8, 2014, at 14:31 , &quot;Matt .&quot; &lt;<A HREF="mailto:yamakasi.014@gmail.com">yamakasi.014@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>
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                            &gt; HI,<BR>
                            &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; This was more than 1,5 year ago, I can't remember 100%<BR>
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                            &gt; I create a new Datacenter as I wanted and putted the otherone &quot;offline&quot; or so and removed it. The Default Cluster was not able to remove because of this Template which was OK.<BR>
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                            yes, the cluster needs to remain.<BR>
                            We're finally taking some steps to be able to remove/replace a Blank template&#8230;nothing final yet. <BR>
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                            &gt; I discussed this at #ovirt back those days and it was the only option to get rid of &quot;Default Datacenter&quot;.<BR>
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                            &gt; I didn't see &nbsp; logs @ the engine.log to be honest.<BR>
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                            there you should see some specific error&#8230;I guess. If this is really related to that removal, there should be something in the log. I'm not aware of any change in the API itself&#8230;<BR>
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                            Thanks,<BR>
                            michal <BR>
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                            &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; Cheers,<BR>
                            &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; Matt<BR>
                            &gt;<BR>
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                            &gt; 2014-04-08 14:17 GMT+02:00 Michal Skrivanek &lt;<A HREF="mailto:michal.skrivanek@redhat.com">michal.skrivanek@redhat.com</A>&gt;:<BR>
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                            &gt; On Apr 8, 2014, at 14:08 , Matt . &lt;<A HREF="mailto:yamakasi.014@gmail.com">yamakasi.014@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>
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                            &gt; &gt; Hi,<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; It seems that it's an issue with the Default Datacenter that is removed, the Cluster still exists because of it's default template there is in.<BR>
                            &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; How did you remove the Default Datacenter. It shouldn't let you because of that Blank template&#8230;<BR>
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                            &gt; Thanks,<BR>
                            &gt; michal<BR>
                            &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; This is what Foreman Logs:<BR>
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                            &gt; &gt; Started POST &quot;/hosts&quot; for xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx at 2014-04-07 20:40:01 +0200<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; Processing by HostsController#create as */*<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &nbsp; Parameters: {&quot;utf8&quot;=&gt;&quot;&#10003;&quot;, &quot;authenticity_token&quot;=&gt;&quot;frTtd5bG6PoC5+2j+qXiGS4TNdJ9tstEgap5BRUoTdA=&quot;, &quot;host&quot;=&gt;{&quot;name&quot;=&gt;&quot;test&quot;, &quot;hostgroup_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;compute_resource_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;compute_profile_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;environment_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;puppet_ca_proxy_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;puppet_proxy_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;puppetclass_ids&quot;=&gt;[&quot;&quot;], &quot;managed&quot;=&gt;&quot;true&quot;, &quot;progress_report_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;[FILTERED]&quot;, &quot;type&quot;=&gt;&quot;Host::Managed&quot;, &quot;compute_attributes&quot;=&gt;{&quot;cluster&quot;=&gt;&quot;f8a641ba-14df-4500-9a1b-79011afeb7eb&quot;, &quot;template&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;cores&quot;=&gt;&quot;2&quot;, &quot;memory&quot;=&gt;&quot;2147483648&quot;, &quot;interfaces_attributes&quot;=&gt;{&quot;new_interfaces&quot;=&gt;{&quot;name&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;network&quot;=&gt;&quot;c97b81ed-b615-48f0-8293-425c8818fdc4&quot;, &quot;_delete&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;}, &quot;new_1396895988009&quot;=&gt;{&quot;name&quot;=&gt;&quot;nic1&quot;, &quot;network&quot;=&gt;&quot;e922b54d-71f0-411d-8efb-05af771822e4&quot;, &quot;_delete&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;}}, &quot;volumes_attributes&quot;=&gt;{&quot;new_volumes&quot;=&gt;{&quot;size_gb&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;storage_domain&quot;=&gt;&quot;0944ba31-1e23-4e6f-b8f8-81f5df9ccc7a&quot;, &quot;_delete&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;id&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;}, &quot;new_1396895996127&quot;=&gt;{&quot;size_gb&quot;=&gt;&quot;25&quot;, &quot;storage_domain&quot;=&gt;&quot;7818bd60-f275-438f-96a5-03c69cdd3555&quot;, &quot;_delete&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;id&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;}}, &quot;start&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;}, &quot;domain_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;realm_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;mac&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;subnet_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;2&quot;, &quot;ip&quot;=&gt;&quot;172.16.20.71&quot;, &quot;interfaces_attributes&quot;=&gt;{&quot;new_interfaces&quot;=&gt;{&quot;_destroy&quot;=&gt;&quot;false&quot;, &quot;type&quot;=&gt;&quot;Nic::Managed&quot;, &quot;mac&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;name&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;domain_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;ip&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;provider&quot;=&gt;&quot;IPMI&quot;}}, &quot;architecture_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;operatingsystem_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;provision_method&quot;=&gt;&quot;build&quot;, &quot;build&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;medium_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;5&quot;, &quot;ptable_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;9&quot;, &quot;disk&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;root_pass&quot;=&gt;&quot;[FILTERED]&quot;, &quot;is_owned_by&quot;=&gt;&quot;1-Users&quot;, &quot;enabled&quot;=&gt;&quot;1&quot;, &quot;model_id&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;comment&quot;=&gt;&quot;&quot;, &quot;overwrite&quot;=&gt;&quot;false&quot;}, &quot;capabilities&quot;=&gt;&quot;build image&quot;, &quot;provider&quot;=&gt;&quot;Ovirt&quot;}<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; Adding Compute instance for test.office.local.domain<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; Successfully decrypted field for Foreman::Model::Ovirt ovirt-domain-local<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; Failed to create a compute ovirt-domain-local(oVirt) instance test.office.local.domain: VM<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://template.id/">template.id</A><BR>
                            &gt; &gt; |name required for add<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &nbsp;/opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rbovirt-0.0.25/lib/rbovirt.rb:180:in `handle_fault'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rbovirt-0.0.25/lib/rbovirt.rb:114:in `rescue in http_post'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rbovirt-0.0.25/lib/rbovirt.rb:111:in `http_post'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rbovirt-0.0.25/lib/client/vm_api.rb:35:in `create_vm'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/fog-1.21.0/lib/fog/ovirt/requests/compute/create_vm.rb:7:in `create_vm'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/fog-1.21.0/lib/fog/ovirt/models/compute/server.rb:123:in `save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/fog-core-1.21.1/lib/fog/core/collection.rb:51:in `create'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/compute_resource.rb:120:in `create_vm'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/compute_resources/foreman/model/ovirt.rb:137:in `create_vm'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/orchestration/compute.rb:74:in `setCompute'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/orchestration.rb:142:in `execute'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/orchestration.rb:85:in `block in process'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/orchestration.rb:77:in `each'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/orchestration.rb:77:in `process'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/orchestration.rb:18:in `on_save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:649:in `_run__1092801602321222569__save__3625976562279559551__callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:405:in `__run_callback'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:385:in `_run_save_callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:81:in `run_callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/callbacks.rb:264:in `create_or_update'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/persistence.rb:84:in `save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/validations.rb:50:in `save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/attribute_methods/dirty.rb:22:in `save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:241:in `block (2 levels) in save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:295:in `block in with_transaction_returning_status'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/database_statements.rb:192:in `transaction'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:208:in `transaction'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:293:in `with_transaction_returning_status'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:241:in `block in save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:252:in `rollback_active_record_state!'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/transactions.rb:240:in `save'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/foreman/sti.rb:29:in `save_with_type'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/controllers/hosts_controller.rb:94:in `create'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal/implicit_render.rb:4:in `send_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/abstract_controller/base.rb:167:in `process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal/rendering.rb:10:in `process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/abstract_controller/callbacks.rb:18:in `block in process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:527:in `block (3 levels) in _run__4464736720017118904__process_action__1491855254410723574__callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:215:in `block in _conditional_callback_around_6000'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:326:in `around'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:310:in `_callback_around_872'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:214:in `_conditional_callback_around_6000'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:526:in `block (2 levels) in _run__4464736720017118904__process_action__1491855254410723574__callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:215:in `block in _conditional_callback_around_5999'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/app/models/concerns/foreman/thread_session.rb:33:in `clear_thread'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:214:in `_conditional_callback_around_5999'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:415:in `block in _run__4464736720017118904__process_action__1491855254410723574__callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:215:in `block in _conditional_callback_around_5998'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:326:in `around'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:310:in `_callback_around_13'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:214:in `_conditional_callback_around_5998'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:414:in `_run__4464736720017118904__process_action__1491855254410723574__callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:405:in `__run_callback'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:385:in `_run_process_action_callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:81:in `run_callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/abstract_controller/callbacks.rb:17:in `process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal/rescue.rb:29:in `process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal/instrumentation.rb:30:in `block in process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/notifications.rb:123:in `block in instrument'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/notifications/instrumenter.rb:20:in `instrument'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/notifications.rb:123:in `instrument'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal/instrumentation.rb:29:in `process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal/params_wrapper.rb:207:in `process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/railties/controller_runtime.rb:18:in `process_action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/abstract_controller/base.rb:121:in `process'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/abstract_controller/rendering.rb:45:in `process'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal.rb:203:in `dispatch'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal/rack_delegation.rb:14:in `dispatch'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_controller/metal.rb:246:in `block in action'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/routing/route_set.rb:73:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/routing/route_set.rb:73:in `dispatch'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/routing/route_set.rb:36:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/journey-1.0.4/lib/journey/router.rb:68:in `block in call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/journey-1.0.4/lib/journey/router.rb:56:in `each'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/journey-1.0.4/lib/journey/router.rb:56:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/routing/route_set.rb:600:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/apipie-rails-0.1.2/lib/apipie/static_dispatcher.rb:65:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/apipie-rails-0.1.2/lib/apipie/middleware/checksum_in_headers.rb:27:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/best_standards_support.rb:17:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/etag.rb:23:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/conditionalget.rb:35:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/head.rb:14:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/params_parser.rb:21:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/share/foreman/lib/middleware/catch_json_parse_errors.rb:9:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/flash.rb:242:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/session/abstract/id.rb:205:in `context'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/session/abstract/id.rb:200:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/cookies.rb:339:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/query_cache.rb:64:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activerecord-3.2.8/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:473:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/callbacks.rb:28:in `block in call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:405:in `_run__1124345173183733839__call__3625976562279559551__callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:405:in `__run_callback'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:385:in `_run_call_callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/callbacks.rb:81:in `run_callbacks'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/callbacks.rb:27:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/remote_ip.rb:31:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/debug_exceptions.rb:16:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/show_exceptions.rb:56:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/rack/logger.rb:26:in `call_app'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/rack/logger.rb:16:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/request_id.rb:22:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/methodoverride.rb:21:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/runtime.rb:17:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/activesupport-3.2.8/lib/active_support/cache/strategy/local_cache.rb:72:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/lock.rb:15:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/actionpack-3.2.8/lib/action_dispatch/middleware/static.rb:62:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-cache-1.2/lib/rack/cache/context.rb:136:in `forward'<BR>
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                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/engine.rb:479:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/application.rb:223:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/railties-3.2.8/lib/rails/railtie/configurable.rb:30:in `method_missing'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/builder.rb:134:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/urlmap.rb:64:in `block in call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/urlmap.rb:49:in `each'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /opt/rh/ruby193/root/usr/share/gems/gems/rack-1.4.1/lib/rack/urlmap.rb:49:in `call'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/passenger-4.0.5/lib/phusion_passenger/rack/thread_handler_extension.rb:77:in `process_request'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/passenger-4.0.5/lib/phusion_passenger/request_handler/thread_handler.rb:140:in `accept_and_process_next_request'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/passenger-4.0.5/lib/phusion_passenger/request_handler/thread_handler.rb:108:in `main_loop'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/passenger-4.0.5/lib/phusion_passenger/request_handler.rb:441:in `block (3 levels) in start_threads'<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; Rolling back due to a problem: [Set up compute instance test.office.local.domain &nbsp; &nbsp; 2 &nbsp; &nbsp; failed &nbsp; &nbsp; [#&lt;Host::Managed id: nil, name: &quot;test.office.local.domain&quot;, ip: &quot;172.16.20.71&quot;, last_compile: nil, last_freshcheck: nil, last_report: nil, updated_at: nil, source_file_id: nil, created_at: nil, mac: nil, root_pass: &quot;$1$Aij0BWBk$hIOQlMuf7vfad2x8aIAS/.&quot;, serial: nil, puppet_status: 0, domain_id: 1, architecture_id: 1, operatingsystem_id: 1, environment_id: 1, subnet_id: 2, ptable_id: 9, medium_id: 5, build: true, comment: &quot;&quot;, disk: &quot;&quot;, installed_at: nil, model_id: nil, hostgroup_id: nil, owner_id: 1, owner_type: &quot;User&quot;, enabled: true, puppet_ca_proxy_id: 1, managed: true, use_image: nil, image_file: nil, uuid: nil, compute_resource_id: 1, puppet_proxy_id: 1, certname: nil, image_id: nil, organization_id: nil, location_id: nil, type: &quot;Host::Managed&quot;, compute_profile_id: nil, otp: nil, realm_id: nil, provision_method: &quot;build&quot;&gt;, :setCompute]]<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; Failed to save: Failed to create a compute ovirt-domain-local(oVirt) instance test.office.local.domain: VM<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; <A HREF="http://template.id/">template.id</A><BR>
                            &gt; &gt; |name required for add<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; 2014-04-08 9:07 GMT+02:00 Michal Skrivanek &lt;<A HREF="mailto:michal.skrivanek@redhat.com">michal.skrivanek@redhat.com</A>&gt;:<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; On Apr 7, 2014, at 14:47 , Matt . &lt;<A HREF="mailto:yamakasi.014@gmail.com">yamakasi.014@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi Guys,<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; On Foreman 1.4.2 it seems that you have issues with oVirt 3.4 when adding a host.<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; When you add this host you will get an error as oVirt now has more templating stuff:<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; you mean guest, right.<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; what errors are in Foreman logs? oVirt logs?<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; Thanks,<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; michal<BR>
                            &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; VM <A HREF="http://template.id/">template.id</A>|name required for add<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; Is there a workaround for this to get the creation of VM go further ?<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks!<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>
                            &gt; &gt; &gt; Matt<BR>
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