<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div><div>Apologies for my delay gents.<br><br></div>I am hooked up in a customer project.<br></div>Would you be so nice to provide me with the relevant link.<br><br></div>I promise to do it tonight.<br><br></div>Thanks a lot,<br><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature">Nikos<br><br>########################################3<br>Zaharioudakis Nikos, RHC{A,DS,E,VA,X,I}, VCP(4,5},VCI, Mentor VCI, Zimbra Instructor<br><a href="https://www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html?certNumber=100-001-262&isSearch=False&verify=Verify" target="_blank">https://www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html?certNumber=100-001-262&isSearch=False&verify=Verify</a><br>Public Calendar : <a href="https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=nzahar%40gmail.com&ctz=Europe/Athens" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=nzahar%40gmail.com&ctz=Europe/Athens</a><br>+30 694 720 40 63<br><a href="http://zimbra.wikidot.com/zimbra-installations-in-greece" target="_blank">http://zimbra.wikidot.com/zimbra-installations-in-greece</a></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-11-25 12:06 GMT+02:00 Shirly Radco <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sradco@redhat.com" target="_blank">sradco@redhat.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Nikos,<br>
<br>
Did you open a bug for this issue?<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
Best regards,<br>
---<br>
Shirly Radco<br>
BI Software Engineer<br>
Red Hat Israel Ltd.<br>
<br>
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> From: "Nikos Zaharioudakis" <<a href="mailto:nzahar@gmail.com">nzahar@gmail.com</a>><br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> To: "Dan Kenigsberg" <<a href="mailto:danken@redhat.com">danken@redhat.com</a>><br>
> Cc: "Shirly Radco" <<a href="mailto:sradco@redhat.com">sradco@redhat.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a><br>
> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 3:36:24 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Billing solution<br>
><br>
> Hi Dan (et all),<br>
><br>
> you know that the customers are always unsatisfied....:-(<br>
><br>
> The first important stuff would be to have in place the metrics of<br>
> consumption of the<br>
> resources some hoster "sell" to a customer. So usage metrics on<br>
> CPU / RAM / DISK / Network (over provisioned or not is another story)<br>
> There is an aspect on actual usage versus provisioned usage.<br>
> {vm provisioned 10 GB of RAM bus os+app uses just 5 GB of them etc)<br>
> But let's keep it simple.<br>
><br>
> Should we have the usage reference then a GUI that the can define<br>
> the cost plans, would be ideal. A way to query if possible that<br>
> database, would ease existing ERPs and invoicing software to<br>
> produce / send invoices. This is for mostly post paid use cases.<br>
><br>
> For prepaid situations, there must be some regular accounting that<br>
> will stop the service through our current API. It sounds a bit scaring to<br>
> actually shutdown the provisioned vm. So at least on first step stop the<br>
> networking ....<br>
> I guess that the base is to create a separate database that will keep the<br>
> consumed metrics, so that customers could actually use it to<br>
> enforce some business logic. (as explained above).<br>
> Should there be a minimal gui that could a small hoster create<br>
> his owns plans and perhaps issue some "invoice" would be ideal.<br>
> Since there are a number of open source billing systems out there,<br>
> perhaps the integration is not that complicated. A second thought would<br>
> be to extend the data ware house gui to create the "invoice" outputs<br>
> as most of the usage info is there.<br>
> I know that ovirt is supposed to be a virtualization solution and not<br>
> a full monty billing system.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for reading so far.<br>
><br>
> Nikos<br>
><br>
><br>
> Nikos<br>
><br>
> ########################################3<br>
> Zaharioudakis Nikos, RHC{A,DS,E,VA,X,I}, VCP(4,5},VCI, Mentor VCI, Zimbra<br>
> Instructor<br>
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> 2014-11-20 15:08 GMT+02:00 Dan Kenigsberg <<a href="mailto:danken@redhat.com">danken@redhat.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 02:20:46PM +0200, Nikos Zaharioudakis wrote:<br>
> > > Brilliant,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks for the info gents<br>
> > > Looking forward for 3.6 then :-)<br>
> ><br>
> > Just waiting may not be enough: I'd love to understand what are the<br>
> > metrics you'd like to use for billing.<br>
> ><br>
> > I mentioned cummulative values of network, storage, and cpu per VM. Can<br>
> > you consider anything else? The latter two are begging for an RFE to be<br>
> > open, as well as the report-centric RFE requested by Shirly.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
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