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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/2015 04:21 PM, Mark Steele
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          <p class=""><span class="">[root@hv-02 etc]# vdsClient -s 0
              destroy 41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b</span></p>
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          <p class="">Not sure I'm getting any closer :-)</p>
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    start with a shutdown - if it won't go now search and kill the
    process<br>
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    vdsClient -s 0 shutdown<span class="">
      41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Mark
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                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">OK
                - I think I'm getting closer - now that I'm on the
                correct box.</div>
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                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">here
                is the output of the vdsClient command - which is the
                device id - the first line?</div>
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                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000">[root@hv-02 etc]#
                    vdsClient -s 0 list</font></div>
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                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000">41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>Status
                    = Up</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>acpiEnable
                    = true</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>emulatedMachine
                    = rhel6.5.0</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>afterMigrationStatus
                    = </font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>pid
                    = 27304</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>memGuaranteedSize
                    = 2048</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>transparentHugePages
                    = true</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>displaySecurePort
                    = 5902</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>spiceSslCipherSuite
                    = DEFAULT</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>cpuType
                    = SandyBridge</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>smp
                    = 2</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>numaTune
                    = {'nodeset': '0,1', 'mode': 'interleave'}</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>custom
                    =
                    {'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72':
                    'VmDevice
                    {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
                    deviceId=ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72,
                    device=unix, type=CHANNEL, bootOrder=0,
                    specParams={}, address={bus=0, controller=0,
                    type=virtio-serial, port=2}, managed=false,
                    plugged=true, readOnly=false, deviceAlias=channel1,
                    customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}',
                    'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72device_ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0e':
                    'VmDevice
                    {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
                    deviceId=ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0e,
                    device=unix, type=CHANNEL, bootOrder=0,
                    specParams={}, address={bus=0, controller=0,
                    type=virtio-serial, port=1}, managed=false,
                    plugged=true, readOnly=false, deviceAlias=channel0,
                    customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}',
                    'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6':
                    'VmDevice
                    {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
                    deviceId=86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6,
                    device=ide, type=CONTROLLER, bootOrder=0,
                    specParams={}, address={slot=0x01, bus=0x00,
                    domain=0x0000, type=pci, function=0x1},
                    managed=false, plugged=true, readOnly=false,
                    deviceAlias=ide0, customProperties={},
                    snapshotId=null}',
                    'device_86f1aa5a-aa3f-4e47-b546-aafcc86fcbb6device_ebd4c73d-12c4-435e-8cc5-f180d8f20a72device_ffd2796f-7644-4008-b920-5f0970b0ef0edevice_6693d023-9c1f-433c-870e-e9771be8474b':
                    'VmDevice
                    {vmId=41703d5c-6cdb-42b4-93df-d78be2776e2b,
                    deviceId=6693d023-9c1f-433c-870e-e9771be8474b,
                    device=spicevmc, type=CHANNEL, bootOrder=0,
                    specParams={}, address={bus=0, controller=0,
                    type=virtio-serial, port=3}, managed=false,
                    plugged=true, readOnly=false, deviceAlias=channel2,
                    customProperties={}, snapshotId=null}'}</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>vmType
                    = kvm</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>memSize
                    = 2048</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>smpCoresPerSocket
                    = 1</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>vmName
                    = connect-turbo-stage-03</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>nice
                    = 0</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>bootMenuEnable
                    = false</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>copyPasteEnable
                    = true</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>displayIp
                    = 10.1.90.161</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>displayPort
                    = -1</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>smartcardEnable
                    = false</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>clientIp
                    = </font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>fileTransferEnable
                    = true</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>nicModel
                    = rtl8139,pv</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>keyboardLayout
                    = en-us</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>kvmEnable
                    = true</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>pitReinjection
                    = false</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>displayNetwork
                    = ovirtmgmt</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>devices
                    = [{'target': 2097152, 'specParams': {'model':
                    'none'}, 'alias': 'balloon0', 'deviceType':
                    'balloon', 'device': 'memballoon', 'type':
                    'balloon'}, {'device': 'unix', 'alias': 'channel0',
                    'address': {'bus': '0', 'controller': '0', 'type':
                    'virtio-serial', 'port': '1'}, 'deviceType':
                    'channel', 'type': 'channel'}, {'device': 'unix',
                    'alias': 'channel1', 'address': {'bus': '0',
                    'controller': '0', 'type': 'virtio-serial', 'port':
                    '2'}, 'deviceType': 'channel', 'type': 'channel'},
                    {'device': 'spicevmc', 'alias': 'channel2',
                    'address': {'bus': '0', 'controller': '0', 'type':
                    'virtio-serial', 'port': '3'}, 'deviceType':
                    'channel', 'type': 'channel'}, {'index': '0',
                    'alias': 'scsi0', 'specParams': {}, 'deviceType':
                    'controller', 'deviceId':
                    '88db8cb9-0960-4797-bd41-1694bf14b8a9', 'address':
                    {'slot': '0x04', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000',
                    'type': 'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device': 'scsi',
                    'model': 'virtio-scsi', 'type': 'controller'},
                    {'alias': 'virtio-serial0', 'specParams': {},
                    'deviceType': 'controller', 'deviceId':
                    '4bb9c112-e027-4e7d-8b1c-32f99c7040ee', 'address':
                    {'slot': '0x05', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000',
                    'type': 'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device':
                    'virtio-serial', 'type': 'controller'}, {'device':
                    'usb', 'alias': 'usb0', 'address': {'slot': '0x01',
                    'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000', 'type': 'pci',
                    'function': '0x2'}, 'deviceType': 'controller',
                    'type': 'controller'}, {'device': 'ide', 'alias':
                    'ide0', 'address': {'slot': '0x01', 'bus': '0x00',
                    'domain': '0x0000', 'type': 'pci', 'function':
                    '0x1'}, 'deviceType': 'controller', 'type':
                    'controller'}, {'alias': 'video0', 'specParams':
                    {'vram': '32768', 'ram': '65536', 'heads': '1'},
                    'deviceType': 'video', 'deviceId':
                    '23634541-3b7e-460d-9580-39504392ba36', 'address':
                    {'slot': '0x02', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000',
                    'type': 'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device': 'qxl',
                    'type': 'video'}, {'device': 'spice', 'specParams':
                    {'displayNetwork': 'ovirtmgmt',
                    'spiceSecureChannels':
                    'smain,sinputs,scursor,splayback,srecord,sdisplay,susbredir,ssmartcard',
                    'keyMap': 'en-us', 'displayIp': '10.1.90.161',
                    'copyPasteEnable': 'true'}, 'deviceType':
                    'graphics', 'tlsPort': '5902', 'type': 'graphics'},
                    {'nicModel': 'pv', 'macAddr': '00:01:a4:a2:b4:30',
                    'linkActive': True, 'network': 'ovirtmgmt', 'alias':
                    'net0', 'filter': 'vdsm-no-mac-spoofing',
                    'specParams': {'inbound': {}, 'outbound': {}},
                    'deviceType': 'interface', 'deviceId':
                    '63651662-2ddf-4611-b988-1a58d05982f6', 'address':
                    {'slot': '0x03', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000',
                    'type': 'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device':
                    'bridge', 'type': 'interface', 'name': 'vnet5'},
                    {'nicModel': 'pv', 'macAddr': '00:01:a4:a2:b4:31',
                    'linkActive': True, 'network': 'storage', 'alias':
                    'net1', 'filter': 'vdsm-no-mac-spoofing',
                    'specParams': {'inbound': {}, 'outbound': {}},
                    'deviceType': 'interface', 'deviceId':
                    'b112d9c6-5144-4b67-912b-dcc27aabdae9', 'address':
                    {'slot': '0x07', 'bus': '0x00', 'domain': '0x0000',
                    'type': 'pci', 'function': '0x0'}, 'device':
                    'bridge', 'type': 'interface', 'name': 'vnet6'},
                    {'index': '3', 'iface': 'ide', 'name': 'hdd',
                    'alias': 'ide0-1-1', 'specParams': {'vmPayload':
                    {'volId': 'config-2', 'file':
                    {'openstack/latest/meta_data.json':
                    'ewogICJsYXVuY2hfaW5kZXgiIDogIjAiLAogICJhdmFpbGFiaWxpdHlfem9uZSIgOiAibm92YSIs\nCiAgIm5hbWUiIDogImNvbm5lY3QtdHVyYm8tc3RhZ2UtMDMiLAogICJob3N0bmFtZSIgOiAiY29u\nbmVjdC10dXJiby1zdGFnZS0wMyIsCiAgInV1aWQiIDogImJiNmIwMzdhLTZkY2ItNGZmZS04MjUw\nLTMwYjlkOWE0ZTlmZCIsCiAgIm1ldGEiIDogewogICAgImVzc2VudGlhbCIgOiAiZmFsc2UiLAog\nICAgInJvbGUiIDogInNlcnZlciIsCiAgICAiZHNtb2RlIiA6ICJsb2NhbCIKICB9Cn0=\n',
                    'openstack/latest/user_data':
                    'I2Nsb3VkLWNvbmZpZwpzc2hfcHdhdXRoOiB0cnVlCmRpc2FibGVfcm9vdDogMApvdXRwdXQ6CiAg\nYWxsOiAnPj4gL3Zhci9sb2cvY2xvdWQtaW5pdC1vdXRwdXQubG9nJwpjaHBhc3N3ZDoKICBleHBp\ncmU6IGZhbHNlCnJ1bmNtZDoKLSAnc2VkIC1pICcnL15kYXRhc291cmNlX2xpc3Q6IC9kJycgL2V0\nYy9jbG91ZC9jbG91ZC5jZmc7IGVjaG8gJydkYXRhc291cmNlX2xpc3Q6CiAgWyJOb0Nsb3VkIiwg\nIkNvbmZpZ0RyaXZlIl0nJyA+PiAvZXRjL2Nsb3VkL2Nsb3VkLmNmZycK\n'}}},
                    'readonly': 'True', 'deviceType': 'disk',
                    'deviceId': '6de890b2-6454-4377-9a71-bea2e46d50a8',
                    'address': {'bus': '1', 'controller': '0', 'type':
                    'drive', 'target': '0', 'unit': '1'}, 'device':
                    'cdrom', 'shared': 'false', 'path': '', 'type':
                    'disk'}, {'index': '2', 'iface': 'ide', 'name':
                    'hdd', 'alias': 'ide0-1-1', 'specParams': {'path':
                    ''}, 'readonly': 'True', 'deviceType': 'disk',
                    'deviceId': '2763a41b-6576-4135-b349-4fe402c31246',
                    'address': {'bus': '1', 'controller': '0', 'type':
                    'drive', 'target': '0', 'unit': '1'}, 'device':
                    'cdrom', 'shared': 'false', 'path': '', 'type':
                    'disk'}, {'device': 'file', 'alias': 'ide0-1-0',
                    'address': {'bus': '1', 'controller': '0', 'type':
                    'drive', 'target': '0', 'unit': '0'}, 'deviceType':
                    'disk', 'type': 'disk'}]</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>timeOffset
                    = -891891</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>maxVCpus
                    = 16</font></div>
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                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>spiceSecureChannels
                    =
                    smain,sinputs,scursor,splayback,srecord,sdisplay,susbredir,ssmartcard</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>display
                    = qxl</font></div>
                <div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana,
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:06
                    AM, Mark Steele <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                        <div class="gmail_default"
                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I
                          think I may have not given you all the
                          information.</div>
                        <div class="gmail_default"
                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br>
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                        <div class="gmail_default"
                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I
                          am not logging into the host - I am logging
                          into the ovirt management.</div>
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                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000"><br>
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                        <div class="gmail_default"
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                                              size="2">Mark Steele</font></b><br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12,
                              2015 at 9:03 AM, Roy Golan <span
                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com"
                                  target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                    <div>On 07/12/2015 03:52 PM, Mark
                                      Steele wrote:<br>
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                                        <div class="gmail_default"
                                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">That

                                          command returns nothing - I
                                          don't think qemu is running?</div>
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                                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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                                        <div class="gmail_default"
                                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Not

                                          sure how to start it on CentOS</div>
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                                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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                                          <p><span>[root@ovirt-01 ~]# ps
                                              -ef | grep qemu</span></p>
                                          <p><span>root     23279 23130 
                                              0 08:51 pts/0    00:00:00
                                              grep qemu</span></p>
                                          <p><span><br>
                                            </span></p>
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                                  </span> that mean you don't have vm
                                  running on that host. so you can
                                  restart vdsm
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                                                          size="2">Mark
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:45
                                            AM, Roy Golan <span
                                              dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com"
                                                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com">rgolan@redhat.com</a></a>&gt;</span>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                            <blockquote
                                              class="gmail_quote"
                                              style="margin:0 0 0
                                              .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                              solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                              <div text="#000000"
                                                bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span>
                                                  <div>On 07/12/2015
                                                    03:42 PM, Mark
                                                    Steele wrote:<br>
                                                  </div>
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                                                    type="cite">
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                                                      <div
                                                        class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
                                                        run into the
                                                        same issue - I
                                                        am unable to
                                                        completely go
                                                        into maintenance
                                                        mode because
                                                        this VM is still
                                                        on it - it
                                                        cannot be
                                                        migrated because
                                                        it is not
                                                        managed.</div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                </span> find you qemu
                                                process:<br>
                                                  pgrep -an qemu-kvm |
                                                grep external<br>
                                                <br>
                                                and kill the process
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src="cid:part24.01020808.06070709@redhat.com" alt="Inline image 1"
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                                                          color="#000000">***</font></div>
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                                                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font
                                                          size="2">Mark
                                                          Steele</font></b><br>
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                                                          face="verdana,
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                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Sun, Jul 12,
                                                          2015 at 8:25
                                                          AM, Roy Golan
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com">rgolan@redhat.com</a></a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0
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                                                          .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          text="#000000"
bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          07/12/2015
                                                          03:12 PM, Mark
                                                          Steele wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          type="cite">
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
                                                          think I may
                                                          have found the
                                                          problem:</div>
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                                                          class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">[root@ovirt-01

                                                          pki]# ls -lah</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">total
                                                          48K</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                           10 root  root
                                                           4.0K Nov 14
                                                           2014 .</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                          118 root  root
                                                            12K Jul 12
                                                          03:35 ..</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                            6 root  root
                                                           4.0K Nov 14
                                                           2014 CA</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                            4 root  root
                                                           4.0K Nov 14
                                                           2014 ca-trust</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                            2 root  root
                                                           4.0K Nov 14
                                                           2014 java</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                            2 root  root
                                                           4.0K Jul 12
                                                          07:03 nssdb</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                            6 ovirt
                                                          ovirt 4.0K Nov
                                                          19  2014
                                                          ovirt-engine</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                            2 root  root
                                                           4.0K Nov 14
                                                           2014 rpm-gpg</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwx------.

                                                            2 root  root
                                                           4.0K Nov 22
                                                           2013 rsyslog</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x.

                                                            5 root  root
                                                           4.0K Nov 14
                                                           2014 tls</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">[root@ovirt-01

                                                          pki]# </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">There
                                                          is no vsdm
                                                          directory
                                                          under /etc/pki</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">This
                                                          is an ovirt
                                                          node. Version
                                                          of software is
                                                          3.5.0.1-1.el6
                                                          from the ovirt
                                                          management
                                                          console.</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">I'd
                                                          like to add
                                                          that I am not
                                                          the person who
                                                          originally
                                                          installed this
                                                          instance - and
                                                          am not
                                                          entirely
                                                          familiar with
                                                          how it is
                                                          setup and
                                                          installed - so
                                                          I may ask
                                                          ignorant
                                                          questions from
                                                          time to time.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span> not
                                                          urgent but at
                                                          this point it
                                                          looks like it
                                                          would be good
                                                          to reinstall
                                                          this host from
                                                          the webadmin.
                                                          if you have
                                                          the capacity,<br>
                                                          you can put
                                                          the host to
                                                          maintenance,
                                                          that will
                                                          migrate vms to
                                                          other hosts,
                                                          and then
                                                          choose
                                                          "reinstall"
                                                          once its in
                                                          "maintenance'
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Sun, Jul 12,
                                                          2015 at 8:02
                                                          AM, Roy Golan
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>On
                                                          07/12/2015
                                                          02:07 PM, Mark
                                                          Steele wrote:<br>
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                                                          you Roy,</div>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
                                                          installed the
                                                          client but am
                                                          getting a
                                                          permissions
                                                          error when I
                                                          run it</div>
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                                                          ~]# vdsClient
                                                          -s 0 list</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">Traceback


                                                          (most recent
                                                          call last):</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"> 
                                                          File
                                                          "/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py",
                                                          line 2678, in
                                                          &lt;module&gt;</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"> 
                                                           
                                                          serv.do_connect(hostPort)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"> 
                                                          File
                                                          "/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py",
                                                          line 136, in
                                                          do_connect</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"> 
                                                            self.s =
                                                          vdscli.connect(hostPort,
                                                          self.useSSL,
                                                          self.truststore)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"> 
                                                          File
                                                          "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/vdsm/vdscli.py",
                                                          line 110, in
                                                          connect</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"> 
                                                            raise
                                                          Exception("No
                                                          permission to
                                                          read file: %s"
                                                          % f)</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default">Exception:


                                                          No permission
                                                          to read file:
/etc/pki/vdsm/keys/vdsmkey.pem</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span> This
                                                          should work.
                                                          something
                                                          isn't right
                                                          with your
                                                          setup<br>
                                                          is your host
                                                          an ovirt-node?
                                                          could be that
                                                          you hit [1] .
                                                          let me know
                                                          what version
                                                          are you
                                                          running. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          please try the
                                                          same with user
                                                          vdsm. it
                                                          should have
                                                          permissions to
                                                          /etc/pki/vdsm<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          [1]  <a
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href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/">https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/</a></a><span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          type="cite">
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                                                          class="gmail_default">If

                                                          I restart
                                                          vdsm, will
                                                          that cause any
                                                          issues with
                                                          running VM's
                                                          on this ovirt
                                                          installation?
                                                          This is our
                                                          production
                                                          environment.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          Generatlly the
                                                          answer is no
                                                          but lets avoid
                                                          it if  we can
                                                          for this is a
                                                          minor cosmetic
                                                          issue I guess.
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          just as FYI -
                                                          vdsm only
                                                          reconnects to
                                                          the socket
                                                          exposed by
                                                          libvirt to
                                                          control the vm
                                                          lifecycle.
                                                          VDSM doesn't
                                                          manadate the
                                                          lifecycle of a
                                                          VM unless the
                                                          engine tells
                                                          is so. Storage
                                                          wise there
                                                          could be some
                                                          operations but
                                                          i'm almost
                                                          sure they must
                                                          not have
                                                          effect on
                                                          running VMs. <br>
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                                                          you</div>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Sun, Jul 12,
                                                          2015 at 4:09
                                                          AM, Roy Golan
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com">rgolan@redhat.com</a></a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>On
                                                          07/09/2015
                                                          06:34 PM, Mark
                                                          Steele wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Yes,</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">It





                                                          is displayed
                                                          in the engine:</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><img
src="cid:part44.00060707.09010209@redhat.com" alt="Inline image 1"
                                                          height="32"
                                                          width="562"><br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          </span> the
                                                          vdsm on that
                                                          host reports
                                                          it back to the
                                                          engine . since
                                                          this vm isn't
                                                          in the engine
                                                          DB it is
                                                          concidered as
                                                          EXTERNAL (thus
                                                          the error 400
                                                          from the API)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          do yo know if
                                                          the qemu-kvm
                                                          proccess isn't
                                                          running
                                                          anymore? <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          if the process
                                                          isn't running
                                                          then vdsm must
                                                          clean its
                                                          cache<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          try to:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          yum install
                                                          vdsm-cli<br>
                                                          vdsClient -s 0
                                                          list<br>
                                                          vdsClient -s 0
                                                          destroy {vmId}<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          alternativly a
                                                          vdsm restart
                                                          will work (if
                                                          the qemu
                                                          proccess isn't
                                                          running)
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">The





                                                          VM is not
                                                          really running
                                                          - the IP
                                                          addresses that
                                                          are being
                                                          reported are
                                                          from another
                                                          VM that was
                                                          recently
                                                          removed. All
                                                          attempts to
                                                          control the VM
                                                          have failed.
                                                          It does not
                                                          have any NICS
                                                          or disk
                                                          associated
                                                          with it - so
                                                          this seems to
                                                          be a ghost in
                                                          the machine. I
                                                          attempted to
                                                          unlock it
                                                          using the
                                                          unlock_entity.sh
                                                          script - it
                                                          reports
                                                          successful,
                                                          however I
                                                          still cannot
                                                          do anything
                                                          with the VM.</div>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On


                                                          Thu, Jul 9,
                                                          2015 at 11:11
                                                          AM, Artyom
                                                          Lukianov <span
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                                                          #ccc
                                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">Can


                                                          you sea via
                                                          engine, on
                                                          what host run
                                                          VM?<br>
                                                          Anyway if you
                                                          have really
                                                          run VM on host
                                                          you can try to
                                                          figure it with
                                                          'ps aux | grep
                                                          qemu', if it
                                                          will return
                                                          you some
                                                          process, you
                                                          can just kill
                                                          process via
                                                          'kill pid'.<br>
                                                          I hope it will
                                                          help you.<br>
                                                          <span><br>
                                                          ----- Original
                                                          Message -----<br>
                                                          From: "Mark
                                                          Steele" &lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:msteele@telvue.com">msteele@telvue.com</a></a>&gt;<br>
                                                          </span><span>To:


                                                          "Artyom
                                                          Lukianov" &lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com">alukiano@redhat.com</a></a>&gt;<br>
                                                          Cc: <a
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href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a></a><br>
                                                          Sent:
                                                          Thursday, July
                                                          9, 2015
                                                          5:42:20 PM<br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [ovirt-users]
                                                          This VM is not
                                                          managed by the
                                                          engine<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Artyom,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Thank you - I
                                                          don't have
                                                          vdsClient
                                                          installed -
                                                          can you point
                                                          me to the<br>
                                                          download?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ***<br>
                                                          </span>*Mark
                                                          Steele*<br>
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                                                          On Thu, Jul 9,
                                                          2015 at 10:11
                                                          AM, Artyom
                                                          Lukianov &lt;<a
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                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          &gt; Please
                                                          check host
                                                          where VM
                                                          run(vdsClient
                                                          -s 0 list
                                                          table), and
                                                          you can<br>
                                                          &gt; destroy
                                                          it via
                                                          vdsClient(vdsClient
                                                          -s 0 destroy
                                                          vm_id).<br>
                                                          &gt; Thanks<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; -----
                                                          Original
                                                          Message -----<br>
                                                          &gt; From:
                                                          "Mark Steele"
                                                          &lt;<a
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                                                          &gt; To: <a
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href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:users@ovirt.org">users@ovirt.org</a></a><br>
                                                          &gt; Sent:
                                                          Thursday, July
                                                          9, 2015
                                                          4:38:32 PM<br>
                                                          &gt; Subject:
                                                          [ovirt-users]
                                                          This VM is not
                                                          managed by the
                                                          engine<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; I have a
                                                          VM that was
                                                          not started
                                                          and is now
                                                          showing as
                                                          running. When
                                                          I<br>
                                                          &gt; attempt
                                                          to suspend or
                                                          stop it in the
                                                          ovirt-shell, I
                                                          get the
                                                          message:<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; status:
                                                          400<br>
                                                          &gt; reason:
                                                          bad request<br>
                                                          &gt; detail:
                                                          Cannot
                                                          hibernate VM.
                                                          This VM is not
                                                          managed by the
                                                          engine.<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Not sure
                                                          how the VM was
                                                          initially
                                                          created on the
                                                          ovirt manager.
                                                          This VM is<br>
                                                          &gt; not
                                                          needed - how
                                                          can I
                                                          'shutdown' and
                                                          remove this
                                                          VM?<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; Thanks<br>
                                                          &gt;<br>
                                                          &gt; ***<br>
                                                          &gt; Mark
                                                          Steele<br>
                                                          &gt; CIO / VP
                                                          Technical
                                                          Operations |
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