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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/12/2015 03:42 PM, Mark Steele
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
run into the same issue - I am unable to completely go into
maintenance mode because this VM is still on it - it cannot be
migrated because it is not managed.</div>
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find you qemu process:<br>
pgrep -an qemu-kvm | grep external<br>
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and kill the process<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Roy
Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rgolan@redhat.com" target="_blank">rgolan@redhat.com</a>></span>
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<div>On 07/12/2015 03:12 PM, Mark Steele wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
think I may have found the problem:</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div class="gmail_default">[root@ovirt-01 pki]# ls
-lah</div>
<div class="gmail_default">total 48K</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 10 root
root 4.0K Nov 14 2014 .</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 118 root
root 12K Jul 12 03:35 ..</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 6 root
root 4.0K Nov 14 2014 CA</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 4 root
root 4.0K Nov 14 2014 ca-trust</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 2 root
root 4.0K Nov 14 2014 java</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 2 root
root 4.0K Jul 12 07:03 nssdb</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 6 ovirt
ovirt 4.0K Nov 19 2014 ovirt-engine</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 2 root
root 4.0K Nov 14 2014 rpm-gpg</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwx------. 2 root
root 4.0K Nov 22 2013 rsyslog</div>
<div class="gmail_default">drwxr-xr-x. 5 root
root 4.0K Nov 14 2014 tls</div>
<div class="gmail_default">[root@ovirt-01 pki]# </div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">There is no vsdm
directory under /etc/pki</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">This is an ovirt node.
Version of software is 3.5.0.1-1.el6 from the
ovirt management console.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">I'd like to add that I
am not the person who originally installed this
instance - and am not entirely familiar with how
it is setup and installed - so I may ask
ignorant questions from time to time.</div>
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<br>
</span> not urgent but at this point it looks like it
would be good to reinstall this host from the webadmin. if
you have the capacity,<br>
you can put the host to maintenance, that will migrate vms
to other hosts, and then choose "reinstall" once its in
"maintenance'
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at
8:02 AM, Roy Golan <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>On 07/12/2015 02:07 PM, Mark Steele
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Thank
you Roy,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I
installed the client but am getting
a permissions error when I run it</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div class="gmail_default">[root@ovirt-01
~]# vdsClient -s 0 list</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Traceback
(most recent call last):</div>
<div class="gmail_default"> File
"/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py",
line 2678, in <module></div>
<div class="gmail_default">
serv.do_connect(hostPort)</div>
<div class="gmail_default"> File
"/usr/share/vdsm/vdsClient.py",
line 136, in do_connect</div>
<div class="gmail_default">
self.s = vdscli.connect(hostPort,
self.useSSL, self.truststore)</div>
<div class="gmail_default"> File
"/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/vdsm/vdscli.py",
line 110, in connect</div>
<div class="gmail_default"> raise
Exception("No permission to read
file: %s" % f)</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Exception:
No permission to read file:
/etc/pki/vdsm/keys/vdsmkey.pem</div>
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<br>
</span> This should work. something isn't
right with your setup<br>
is your host an ovirt-node? could be that
you hit [1] . let me know what version are
you running. <br>
<br>
please try the same with user vdsm. it
should have permissions to /etc/pki/vdsm<br>
<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/"
target="_blank">https://gerrit.ovirt.org/#/c/27779/</a><span><br>
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<div class="gmail_default">If I
restart vdsm, will that cause any
issues with running VM's on this
ovirt installation? This is our
production environment.</div>
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<br>
</span> Generatlly the answer is no but lets
avoid it if we can for this is a minor
cosmetic issue I guess. <br>
<br>
just as FYI - vdsm only reconnects to the
socket exposed by libvirt to control the vm
lifecycle. VDSM doesn't manadate the
lifecycle of a VM unless the engine tells is
so. Storage wise there could be some
operations but i'm almost sure they must not
have effect on running VMs. <br>
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12, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Roy Golan <span
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<div>On 07/09/2015 06:34 PM,
Mark Steele wrote:<br>
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<div
class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Yes,</div>
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class="gmail_default"
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<div
class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(0,0,0)">It
is displayed in the
engine:</div>
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</span> the vdsm on that host
reports it back to the engine
. since this vm isn't in the
engine DB it is concidered as
EXTERNAL (thus the error 400
from the API)<br>
<br>
do yo know if the qemu-kvm
proccess isn't running
anymore? <br>
<br>
if the process isn't running
then vdsm must clean its cache<br>
<br>
try to:<br>
<br>
yum install vdsm-cli<br>
vdsClient -s 0 list<br>
vdsClient -s 0 destroy {vmId}<br>
<br>
alternativly a vdsm restart
will work (if the qemu
proccess isn't running)
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VM is not really
running - the IP
addresses that are
being reported are
from another VM that
was recently
removed. All
attempts to control
the VM have failed.
It does not have any
NICS or disk
associated with it -
so this seems to be
a ghost in the
machine. I attempted
to unlock it using
the unlock_entity.sh
script - it reports
successful, however
I still cannot do
anything with the
VM.</div>
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Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at
11:11 AM, Artyom
Lukianov <span
dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:alukiano@redhat.com">alukiano@redhat.com</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0
0
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#ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">Can
you sea via
engine, on what
host run VM?<br>
Anyway if you have
really run VM on
host you can try
to figure it with
'ps aux | grep
qemu', if it will
return you some
process, you can
just kill process
via 'kill pid'.<br>
I hope it will
help you.<br>
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Sent: Thursday,
July 9, 2015
5:42:20 PM<br>
Subject: Re:
[ovirt-users]
This VM is not
managed by the
engine<br>
<br>
Artyom,<br>
<br>
Thank you - I
don't have
vdsClient
installed - can
you point me to
the<br>
download?<br>
<br>
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On Thu, Jul 9,
2015 at 10:11
AM, Artyom
Lukianov <<a
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wrote:<br>
<br>
> Please
check host
where VM
run(vdsClient
-s 0 list
table), and
you can<br>
> destroy
it via
vdsClient(vdsClient
-s 0 destroy
vm_id).<br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> -----
Original
Message -----<br>
> From:
"Mark Steele"
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> To: <a
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> Sent:
Thursday, July
9, 2015
4:38:32 PM<br>
> Subject:
[ovirt-users]
This VM is not
managed by the
engine<br>
><br>
> I have a
VM that was
not started
and is now
showing as
running. When
I<br>
> attempt
to suspend or
stop it in the
ovirt-shell, I
get the
message:<br>
><br>
> status:
400<br>
> reason:
bad request<br>
> detail:
Cannot
hibernate VM.
This VM is not
managed by the
engine.<br>
><br>
> Not sure
how the VM was
initially
created on the
ovirt manager.
This VM is<br>
> not
needed - how
can I
'shutdown' and
remove this
VM?<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> ***<br>
> Mark
Steele<br>
> CIO / VP
Technical
Operations |
TelVue
Corporation<br>
> TelVue -
We Share Your
Vision<br>
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