<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Yaniv,<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I've done some extensive investigation, and my conclusions so far bring some new light to this issue :<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>As you have hinted, this is not a problem related to windows 10, as I was able to reproduce it with any laptop/system with windows 7 or 10. In fact, I do not find any evidence that VNC console works OK with any windows (maybe is our hardware?? => we use DELL). I'm not sure anymore it did work in the past...<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>This is a problem related only with VNC consoles on virtual machines using windows client. SPICE works great under windows. VNC console works OK with remote viewer under centos.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I found out something interesting : as I said, console is so slow that it bearebly useable (1 refresh every 10 seconds) but if I alt+tab twice (change focus off and on) it will refresh immediatly. This seems to me as a client issue... not a oVirt issue. So maybe I should take this issue with remote viewer team ?<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>To answer your last question : "What oVirt installation needs VNC? " Indeed, oVirt hosted-engine installation needs a console and it proposes VNC and SPICE (vnc is default). SPICE console asks for a certificate configuration that I did not spent the necessary time to make it work as VNC works right out of the box (even if there is the refresh rate problem).<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>any information or hint to find a solution would be appreciated. thanks<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__"><div>cordialement, regards,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><table style="margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" data-mce-style="margin: 0px; table-layout: fixed; border: none; width: 345pt; padding: 0px;" width="460" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; text-align: left;" data-mce-style="margin: 0; font-size: 11px; font-family: Arial,sans-serif; color: #2b3c7a; line-height: 16px; width: 86.25pt; 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This is painfully slow and barely usable. The same console on SPICE graphics works perfectly.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>So you suspect the issue is on the client side? Can you verify with a Windows 7 laptop that the performance is good?</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><br><div>This is specially annoying since oVirt engine installation console works only with VNC in my build. I'm installing oVirt 4.1 on a test cluster, this makes my life very hard :(<br></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>What oVirt installation needs VNC? </div><div> Y.</div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><br><div>So, now I'm not sure this is an issue with oVirt, remote-viewer (for windows) or windows 10.<br></div><br><div>Does anybody else have this problem? any advice?<br></div><br><div><div>cordialement, regards,</div><br><table style="margin:0px;table-layout:fixed;border:none;width:345pt;padding:0px" width="460" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="margin:0;font-size:11px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;line-height:16px;width:86.25pt;text-align:left" width="115" valign="top"><a href="https://www.lyra-network.com/" 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