<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Tatsuya <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suginami@gmail.com" target="_blank">suginami@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-m_-1799873524705348127gmail-">Dear Didi</span></div><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-"><div><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-m_-1799873524705348127gmail-"></span><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-im"><br></span></div><div>> Even if you never heard about hosted-engine in previous versions and 4.1<br>> was your first attempt? Any suggestions for improvement to make it easier<br>> to find?</div><div><br></div></span><div>Sorry to late reply. I notice that I forget to add "users <<a href="mailto:users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">users@ovirt.org</a>>" as a destination.</div><div><br></div><div>The inquiry of the other day was about oVirt 4.0.</div><div><br>Yesterday I installed 4.1 for the first time. </div><div><br></div><div>I think that if I had been able to deploy self hosted engine not only when reinstalling host </div><div>but also when adding new host, I could have noticed.</div></div></blockquote><br>Hi Tatsuya,<br>you should see it also adding new hosts, it should look like this:<br><a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/30c70a9076f94113469401a51cafdfc7be8fbedd/source/images/2017-02-16-hyperconverged-ovirt-with-ovn-picture17.png">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/30c70a9076f94113469401a51cafdfc7be8fbedd/source/images/2017-02-16-hyperconverged-ovirt-with-ovn-picture17.png</a><br>That one is from 4.1.0<br><br>There is also an explicit icon to highlight which host is running the engine VM and which ones are ready for it:<br><a href="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/30c70a9076f94113469401a51cafdfc7be8fbedd/source/images/2017-02-16-hyperconverged-ovirt-with-ovn-picture18.png">https://raw.githubusercontent.com/oVirt/ovirt-site/30c70a9076f94113469401a51cafdfc7be8fbedd/source/images/2017-02-16-hyperconverged-ovirt-with-ovn-picture18.png</a><br><br>Deploying from CLI is explicitly prevented and it's pointing you to the web UI with this message:<br>'Setup of additional hosts using this software is not allowed anymore. Please use the engine web interface to deploy any additional hosts.'<br><br>Do you think it's not that clear?<br>Anything we can improve?<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div> </div><div><br></div><div>Or it may be useful to pop up the deployment method of self hosted engine <br>when adding new host is completed.</div><div><br>Regards<span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>Tatsuya</font></span><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Tatsuya</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suginami@gmail.com" target="_blank">suginami@gmail.com</a>></span><br></span><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-">Date: 2017-03-23 1:10 GMT+09:00<br>Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] How to deploy hosted-engine to the second and later host machines<br>To: Yedidyah Bar David <<a href="mailto:didi@redhat.com" target="_blank">didi@redhat.com</a>><br><br><br></span><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-m_-1799873524705348127gmail-">Dear Didi</span><span><br><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-"><br>> e.g. that if the storage<br>
> domain is not empty, a message will be emitted saying something like:<br>
> "To add this host as an additional one to an existing hosted-engine HA<br>
> cluster, please use the engine web administration ui or the API/SDK".<br>
<br></span></span><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-">It seems to be a very appropriate explanation when reading after understanding, <br>but it may be better to ready specific steps.For example, this is one example among many: <br>"In particular, when creating a new host from the engine web administration ui, <br>please select "Deploy" on the self hosted engine tab."<br><br>Also, "hosted-engine --deploy --config-append=answers.conf" was an error from cli, <br>but "hosted-engine --deploy" wasn't an error, so I almost created a new hosted-engine <br>using "hosted-engine --deploy" to the second and later host machines.<br>From the above, It wil be better to warn also when running "hosted-engine --deploy".<br><br></span></div>Regards<span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>Tatsuya</font></span></font></span><div><div class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-h5"><div><div class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-03-21 15:29 GMT+09:00 Yedidyah Bar David <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:didi@redhat.com" target="_blank">didi@redhat.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)"><span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-m_-1799873524705348127gmail-">On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Tatsuya <<a href="mailto:suginami@gmail.com" target="_blank">suginami@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Dear lan and Didi<br>
><br>
>> Found a working option to get second and subsequent hosts deployed with<br>
>> ovirt 4.1<br>
>><br>
>> 1-Set second host into maintenance<br>
>> 2-highlight second host and choose "Installation --> Reinstall", edit<br>
>> params in popup and click OK<br>
>> 3-Ignore warning that pops up and watch the vdsm.log or look for<br>
>> "Installing" status in webui<br>
>> 4-It should show you that the install is running, keep watching vdsm.log.<br>
>> 5-Click 'ok' on warning and wait patiently for install to finish.<br>
>><br>
>> Second node comes up and is active.<br>
><br>
>> No, sorry for not being clear. I referred to the engine web admin ui<br>
>> (and also API/SDK). Thanks, Ian, for your reply explaining this.<br>
><br>
> I apologize for this late reply.I had been trying again from reinstalling<br>
> the host.<br>
><br>
> Thanks to you, I was able to install HostedEngine in second and subsequent<br>
> hosts.<br>
> I think that I could not find this option by myself.<br>
<br>
</span>Even if you never heard about hosted-engine in previous versions and 4.1<br>
was your first attempt? Any suggestions for improvement to make it easier<br>
to find?<br>
<span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-m_-1799873524705348127gmail-"><br>
><br>
> I'm grateful for your support.<br>
<br>
</span>You might want to open one or more RFEs for some clarifications in the<br>
interface - both command line and cockpit - e.g. that if the storage<br>
domain is not empty, a message will be emitted saying something like:<br>
"To add this host as an additional one to an existing hosted-engine HA<br>
cluster, please use the engine web administration ui or the API/SDK".<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<span class="gmail-m_-3122834320864547449gmail-m_8033313184154676494gmail-m_-1799873524705348127gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
Didi<br>
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