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So this will create a 60 vms migrating simultaneously.<br></div><div>Some vms are under so much heavy loads that migration fails often (our guess is that massive simultaneous migrations does not help migration convergence) - even with "suspend workload if needed" migraton policy.<br></div><br><div>- Does oVirt really launches 60 simultaneous migrations or is there a queuing system ?<br></div><div>- If there is a queuing system, is there a way to configure a maximum number of simultaneous migrations ?<br></div><br><div>I did see a "migration bandwidth limit", but this is quite what we are looking for.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>What migration policy are you using? <br></div><div> -- "suspend workkiad if needed"<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Are you using a dedicated migration network, or the ovirtmgmt network?</div><div> -- ovirtmgmt network<br></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><br><div>my setup:<br></div><div>ovirt-engine +hosted engine 4.1.1<br></div><div>hosts : centos 7.3 fully updated.<br></div><br><div><div>for full context to understand this question : 2 times in the past, when trying to put a host in maintenance, host stopped responding during massive migrations and was fenced by engine. It's still unclear why host stopped responding, but we think that migrating 60+ vms simultaneously puts a heavy strain on storage ? So we would like to better control migration process in order to better understand what's happening. This scenario is "production only" since our labs do not contain nearly as much vm with such heavy loads. So rather than trying to reproduce, we are trying to avoid ;)<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div>If you could open a bug with relevant logs on the host not responding, that'd be great.</div><div> -- Too late, we made the "precipitaded" mistake of reinstalling server (beause of other reasons), so all traces are lost. Next time I will make sure to keep traces.<br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Live migration doesn't touch the storage (disks re not moving anywhere), but it does stress the network. I doubt it, but perhaps you over-saturate the ovirtmgmt network.</div><div> -- This makes sens. It's a long shot though. Maybe it would be possible to create a VLAN dedicated to migrations in same physical network et use QOS to reserve always some bandwith to oVirt administration ? (maybe opening can of worms here....) <br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Y.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000"><div><br><div>cordialement, regards,</div><br><table style="margin:0px;table-layout:fixed;border:none;width:345pt;padding:0px" width="460" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="margin:0;font-size:11px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;line-height:16px;width:86.25pt;text-align:left" width="115" valign="top"><a href="https://www.lyra-network.com/" style="border:none;text-decoration:none;width:100%;display:block;clear:both" target="_blank"><img src="cid:5610d659091be91322f0555c608bacb8b7ef1b77@zimbra" alt="" width="115" height="94" border="0"></a><br></td><td style="margin:0;font-size:11px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#2b3c7a;line-height:16px;width:258.75pt" width="345" 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