<div dir="ltr"><div><div>this was not the intention of the thread. so please stop throwing bananas each other.<br><br>Lets focus on the subject here:do we need some documentation mainteiners? yes/no <br><br></div>regards,<br></div>JP<br><div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-10 5:27 GMT-03:00 Fabrice Bacchella <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fabrice.bacchella@orange.fr" target="_blank">fabrice.bacchella@orange.fr</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>I'm might be saying things in a harsh way, but there is a real big problem with public documentation at ovirt, especially the latest python sdk.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm coding a python wrapper around the sdk4 and fighting a lot with documentation. </div><div><br></div><div>First I tried to google:</div><div>ovirt python sdk4</div><div>ovirt python sdk 4</div><div>ovirt rest api 4</div><div><br></div><div>I was finally given <a href="http://ovirt.github.io/ovirt-engine-sdk/master" target="_blank">http://ovirt.github.io/ovirt-<wbr>engine-sdk/master</a>, but <a href="http://ovirt.github.io" target="_blank">http://ovirt.github.io</a> returns a 404, the sdk is hidden under <a href="http://ovirt.github.io/ovirt-engine-sdk/" target="_blank">http://ovirt.github.io/<wbr>ovirt-engine-sdk/</a>, a mini-site that is barely usable, as it very hard to navigate between page. For example, when you're at : <a href="http://ovirt.github.io/ovirt-engine-sdk/master/version.m.html" target="_blank">http://ovirt.github.io/<wbr>ovirt-engine-sdk/master/<wbr>version.m.html</a>, how do you go to the first page ?</div><div><br></div><div>If I try to gogle the title of this page, I found <a href="http://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/infra/python-sdk/" target="_blank">http://www.ovirt.org/<wbr>develop/release-management/<wbr>features/infra/python-sdk/</a> as first result and it's even not in the first page of results .</div><div><br></div><div>Or you can have a look at <a href="https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_virtualization/4.1/html-single/python_sdk_guide/" target="_blank">https://access.redhat.com/<wbr>documentation/en-us/red_hat_<wbr>virtualization/4.1/html-<wbr>single/python_sdk_guide/</a>, that talks only about v3 sdk, which is deprecated.</div><div><br></div><div>The python sdk change log:</div><div><a href="http://www.ovirt.org/develop/sdk/python-sdk-changelog/" target="_blank">http://www.ovirt.org/develop/<wbr>sdk/python-sdk-changelog/</a></div><div><br></div><div>At pypi, no links to the sdk documentation</div><div><a href="https://pypi.python.org/pypi/ovirt-engine-sdk-python" target="_blank">https://pypi.python.org/pypi/<wbr>ovirt-engine-sdk-python</a></div><div><br></div><div>I requested the events codes, I was given that:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/oVirt/ovirt-engine/blob/master/backend/manager/modules/common/src/main/java/org/ovirt/engine/core/common/AuditLogType.java#L726" target="_blank">https://github.com/oVirt/<wbr>ovirt-engine/blob/master/<wbr>backend/manager/modules/<wbr>common/src/main/java/org/<wbr>ovirt/engine/core/common/<wbr>AuditLogType.java#L726</a></div><div><br></div><div>Is there a formal list somewhere ?</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Le 10 mai 2017 à 08:21, Oved Ourfali <<a href="mailto:oourfali@redhat.com" target="_blank">oourfali@redhat.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div class="gmail_extra"><br class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-interchange-newline"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Fabrice Bacchella<span class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fabrice.bacchella@orange.fr" target="_blank">fabrice.bacchella@<wbr>orange.fr</a>></span><span class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I'm whining because ovirt is a wonderful product, peoples behind are nice, but ho boy, what about the execution !<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I couldn't agree more with James here.</div><div>It is good to whine, complain, and seek for improvements. We all want a better project!</div><div>However, there are pleasant ways to express your thoughts and concerns. You seem to choose unpleasant ones, which are also unproductive and insulting to others.</div><div>That can result in people not taking your thoughts and concerns in a serious way, as it is just unpleasant for them to read and reply to.</div><div>I remember someone already sent you the community code of conduct [1]. I suggest you read that again before sharing your next post with us.</div><div><br></div><div>Oved<br></div><div> </div><div>[1] <a href="https://www.ovirt.org/community/about/community-guidelines/" target="_blank">https://www.ovirt.org/<wbr>community/about/community-<wbr>guidelines/</a></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div></div><div>And no I have done much more than empty complains as I have open my share a bug report, written a blog entry about using ovirt+kerberos+SSO, written a full fledged CLI and trying to finished the SDK. So I'm not just complaining.</div><div><div class="m_-8124371942387989538gmail-h5"><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Le 9 mai 2017 à 22:28, James Michels <<a href="mailto:karma.sometimes.hurts@gmail.com" target="_blank">karma.sometimes.hurts@gmail.c<wbr>om</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="m_-8124371942387989538gmail-m_5139079229713401712Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Seriously, what's wrong with you? I've being reading your comments for some time and the only things I see are whining, unproductive complaining and disrespectful comments.<div><br></div><div>Please, stop it. There are tons of ways to say something, and the way you use is insulting for dozens of people developing this project. Most people here are seeking help and/or trying to be useful aiding others in what they can. If you don't like oVirt or you have that much complains maybe you should start your project yourself and do things like you consider they should be done.</div><div><br></div><div>James<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-09 15:59 GMT+01:00 Fabrice Bacchella<span class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fabrice.bacchella@orange.fr" target="_blank">fabrice.bacchella@<wbr>orange.fr</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">The documentation is alway a good laugh at ovirt. Look for RHEL instead.<div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="m_-8124371942387989538gmail-m_5139079229713401712h5"><div>Le 9 mai 2017 à 16:13, Juan Pablo <<a href="mailto:pablo.localhost@gmail.com" target="_blank">pablo.localhost@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :</div><br class="m_-8124371942387989538gmail-m_5139079229713401712m_8030520292843597762Apple-interchange-newline"></div></div><div><div><div class="m_-8124371942387989538gmail-m_5139079229713401712h5"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Team, Is just me or the documentation pages are not being updated ? many are outdated.. how can we collaborate?<span class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>whats up with<span class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/" target="_blank">http://www.ovirt.org/<wbr>documentation/admin-guide/</a><span class="m_-8124371942387989538Apple-converted-space"> </span>?<br><br></div>regards,<br></div>JP<br></div></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/users</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/users</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/users</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman<wbr>/listinfo/users</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br></div></div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Users mailing list</span><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">Users@ovirt.org</a><br style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/users</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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