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    <p>I normally assume that any performance gain from directlly
      attaching a LUN to a Virtual Machine then using it in the
      traditional way are so little to compensate the extra hassle to do
      that. I would avoid as much as I cacn use it, unless it is for
      some very special reason where you cannot do in any other way. The
      only real usage for it so far was Microsoft SQL Server Clustering
      requirements.<br>
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    <p>Fernando<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/06/2017 03:23, Idan Shaby wrote:<br>
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            <div>Direct luns are disks that are not managed by oVirt.
              Ovirt communicates directly with the lun itself, without
              any other layer in between (like lvm in image disks).<br>
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          The advantage of the direct lun is that it should have better
          performance since there's no overhead of another layer in the
          middle.<br>
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        The disadvantage is that you can't take a snapshot of it (when
        attached to a vm, of course), can't make it a part of a
        template, export it, and in general - you don't manage it.<br>
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                          Regards,<br>
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                        Idan<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:10 PM,
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              <div dir="ltr">Thank you very much.
                <div>What about "direct lun" usage and database example?</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-08 16:40
                        GMT+02:00 Elad Ben Aharon <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                            <div>Answer inline<br>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu,
                                    Jun 8, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Stefano
                                    Bovina <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                        <div>Hi,</div>
                                        <div>does a storage best
                                          practise document for oVirt
                                          exist?</div>
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                                        <div>Some examples:</div>
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                                        <div>oVirt allows to extend an
                                          existing storage domain: Is it
                                          better to keep a 1:1 relation
                                          between LUN and oVirt storage
                                          domain?</div>
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                                  <div>What do you mean by 1:1 relation?
                                    Between storage domain and the
                                    number of LUNs the domain reside
                                    on? </div>
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                                        <div>If not, is it better to
                                          avoid adding LUNs to an
                                          already existing storage
                                          domain?</div>
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                                  <div>No problems with storage domain
                                    extension.</div>
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                                        <div>Following the previous
                                          questions:</div>
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                                        <div>Is it better to have 1 Big
                                          oVirt storage domain or many
                                          small oVirt storage domains?</div>
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                                  <div>Depends on your needs, be aware
                                    to the following:</div>
                                  <div>- Each domain has its own
                                    metadata which allocates ~5GB of the
                                    domain size.</div>
                                  <div>- Each domain is being
                                    constatntly monitored by the system,
                                    so large number of domain can
                                    decrease the system performance.</div>
                                  <div>There are also downsides with
                                    having big domains, like less
                                    flexability   </div>
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                                        <div>There is a max num VM/disks
                                          for storage domain?</div>
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                                        <div>In which case is it better
                                          to use "direct attached lun"
                                          with respect to an image on an
                                          oVirt storage domain? </div>
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                                        <div>Example:</div>
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                                        <div>Simple web server:  
                                          ----&gt; image</div>
                                        <div>Large database (simple
                                          example):</div>
                                        <div>   - root,swap etc: 30GB
                                           ----&gt; image?</div>
                                        <div>   - data disk: 500GB  
                                           -----&gt; (direct or image?)</div>
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                                        <div>Regards,</div>
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                                        <div>Stefano</div>
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