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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NL link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Sharon,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for your comments. My findings on those:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes all VMs have ovirt-guest-agent installed and active, shutdown time is still about 90 seconds. Any other way to reduce this? I see in the logs “Jun 28 11:49:03 pool python: Shutdown scheduled for Wed 2017-06-28 11:50:03 CEST, use 'shutdown -c' to cancel.” And then a wait of 60 seconds. Is it possible to adjust this delay?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Clicking twice works. Thanks for the tip!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>More VMs per user: yes, could be a good option<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:72.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I have some trouble with the “console disconnect action” and filed a bug for it last week [1]. Any disconnect action (except shutdown) combined with “strict user checking” (security wise recommended) blocks and depletes pool resources and in my opinion jeopardizes the pool functionality. I am curious what your thoughts are on this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Kind regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>[1]:</span><span lang=EN-US> </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464396">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464396</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Sharon Gratch [mailto:sgratch@redhat.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> dinsdag 27 juni 2017 19:04<br><b>To:</b> Paul <paul@kenla.nl><br><b>Cc:</b> users <users@ovirt.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ovirt-users] vm shutdown long delay is a problem for users of pools<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Please see comments below.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Paul <<a href="mailto:paul@kenla.nl" target="_blank">paul@kenla.nl</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Shutting down VM’s in the portal with the red downfacing arrow takes quite some time (about 90 seconds). I read this is mainly due to a 60 second delay in the ovirt-guest-agent. I got used to right-click and use “power off” instead of “shutdown”, which is fine.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>My users make use of VM in a VM-pool. They get assigned a VM and after console disconnect the VM shuts down (default recommended behavior). My issue is that the users stays assigned to this VM for the full 90 seconds and cannot do “power off”. Suppose he disconnected by accident, he has to wait 90 seconds until he is assigned to the pool again until he can connect to another VM. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>My questions are:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=gmail-m-3539624712128639787msolistparagraph><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Is it possible to decrease the time delay of a VM shutdown? 90 seconds is quite a lot, 10 seconds should be enough</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>I<span style='color:black'>s ovirt-guest-agent installed on all pool's VMs? Consider installing ovirt-guest-agent in all VMs in your Pool to decrease the time taken for the VM shutdown. </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=gmail-m-3539624712128639787msolistparagraph><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Is it possible for normal users to use “power off”?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>There is no option in UserPortal to power-off a VM but you can <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>try to click twice (sequential clicks) on the 'shutdown' button. Two sequential shutdown requests are handled in oVirt as "power off".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=gmail-m-3539624712128639787msolistparagraph><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>-</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Is it possible to “unallocate” the user from a VM if it is powering down? So he can allocate another VM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>You can consider assigning two VMs per each user, if possible of-course (via WebAdmin->edit Pool -> and set "Maximum number of VMs per user" field to "2") so that way while one VM is still shutting down, the user can switch and connect to a second VM without waiting.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Another option is to create a pool with a different policy for console disconnecting so that the VM won't shutdown each time the user close the console (via WebAdmin->Pool->Console tab->"Console Disconnect Action"). Consider changing this field to "Lock screen" or "Logout user" instead of "shutdown virtual machine". <br>This policy will avoid accidentally console disconnection waiting each time...but on the other hand the VM state will remain as is since no shutdown occurs, so it really depends on your requirements.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Sharon<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Kind regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Paul</span><span style='color:#888888'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users" target="_blank">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>