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    <p>Hey, for sporadic use, you will get used to the new interface
      soon enough.</p>
    <p>For very repetitive tasks, you will probably be using the API
      anyway.</p>
    <p>While I was happy with the old GUI, I do not see anything wrong
      with the new one.</p>
    <p>@devs: Thanks for the new version! <br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Eduardo Mayoral Jimeno (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:emayoral@arsys.es">emayoral@arsys.es</a>)
Administrador de sistemas. Departamento de Plataformas. Arsys internet.
+34 941 620 145 ext. 5153</pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/10/17 19:01, FERNANDO FREDIANI
      wrote:<br>
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      <p>Question is: who is the user ? There are different types of
        them for different proposes.</p>
      <p>Fernando<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/10/2017 15:57, Oved Ourfali
        wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAJ_kCt6q9Q+B-1qVgrUdZwOOeTkuWwLiYUs1bGpeyYoZhpo9HA@mail.gmail.com">
        <div dir="auto">As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but
          not the only one. You see right click less and less in web
          applications, as it isn't considered a good user experience.
          This is also the patternfly guideline (patternfly is a
          framework we heavily use throughout the application). 
          <div dir="auto"><br>
            <div dir="auto">We will however consider bringing this back
              if there will be high demand. </div>
            <div dir="auto"><br>
            </div>
            <div dir="auto">Thanks for the feedback!</div>
            <div dir="auto">Oved </div>
          </div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell
            Budic" &lt;<a href="mailto:budic@onholyground.com"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">budic@onholyground.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:<br type="attribution">
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              <div
                style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">Agreed.
                I use the right click functionality all the time and
                will miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a
                mobile interface, but I’m never going to use it for
                primary work. Please prioritize ease of use on Desktop
                over Mobile!
                <div><br>
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                          style="font:13.0px Helvetica;color:#000000"
                          color="#000000" size="4" face="Helvetica"><b>From:</b>
                          FERNANDO FREDIANI &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:fernando.frediani@upx.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">fernando.frediani@upx.com</a>&gt;</font></span><br>
                      <span><font style="font:13.0px
                          Helvetica;color:#000000" color="#000000"
                          size="4" face="Helvetica"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
                          [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta
                          Release is now available for testing</font></span><br>
                      <span><font style="font:13.0px
                          Helvetica;color:#000000" color="#000000"
                          size="4" face="Helvetica"><b>Date:</b> October
                          31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT</font></span><br>
                      <span><font style="font:13.0px
                          Helvetica;color:#000000" color="#000000"
                          size="4" face="Helvetica"><b>To:</b> <a
                            href="mailto:users@ovirt.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">users@ovirt.org</a></font></span><br>
                      <br
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                        <span
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">On
                          31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:</span><br
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                        <blockquote type="cite"
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                          <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                            Will the right click dialog be available in
                            the final release? Because,<br>
                            currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up
                            right corner to interact with<br>
                            object (migrate, maintenance...)<br>
                            <br>
                          </blockquote>
                          Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.<br>
                          <br>
                          Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:<br>
                          - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile
                          friendly, and while its not 100%<br>
                          there yet, it is actually quite useable on a
                          mobile device now. Mobile devices<br>
                          don't have a right click, so hiding
                          functionality in there would make no<br>
                          sense.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                        <span
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Please
                          don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage.
                          While mobile usage is nice to have in
                          "certain" situations. In real day by day
                          operation nobody uses mobile devices to do
                          their deployments and manage their large
                          environments. If having both options where you
                          can switch between then is nice, but if
                          something should prevail should always be
                          Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock
                          Trading interface or something you need that
                          level or flexibility and mobility to do static
                          things anytime anywhere.</span><br
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
                        <br
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
                        <span
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">So
                          I beg you to consider well before remove
                          things which are pretty useful for a day by
                          day and real management usage because of a new
                          trend or buzz stuff.</span><br
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
                        <span
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Right
                          click is always on popular on Desktop
                          enviroments and will be for quite a while.</span><br
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
                        <blockquote type="cite"
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">-
                          You can now right click and get the browsers
                          menu instead of ours and you<br>
                          can do things like copy from the menu.<br>
                          - We replicated all the functionality from the
                          menu in the buttons/kebab menu<br>
                          available on the right. Our goal was to have
                          all the commonly used actions as<br>
                          a button, and less often used actions in the
                          kebab to declutter the interface.<br>
                          We traded an extra click for some mouse travel<br>
                          - Lots of people didn't realize there even was
                          a right click menu because its<br>
                          a web interface, and they couldn't find some
                          functionality that was only<br>
                          available in the right click menu.<br>
                          <br>
                          Now that being said, we are still debating if
                          it was a good move or not. For<br>
                          now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot
                          of people want it back, it is<br>
                          certainly possible we will put it back.<br>
                          <br>
                          <blockquote type="cite">
                            <blockquote type="cite">that is something
                              you are interested in. Its also much
                              faster and better<br>
                              than before.<br>
                              <br>
                              <blockquote type="cite">On 31/10/2017
                                10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:<br>
                                <blockquote type="cite">The oVirt
                                  Project is pleased to announce the
                                  availability of the First<br>
                                  Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of
                                  October 31st, 2017<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  This is pre-release software. This
                                  pre-release should not to be used<br>
                                  in production.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Please take a look at our community
                                  page[1] to learn how to ask<br>
                                  questions and interact with developers
                                  and users.All issues or bugs<br>
                                  should be reported via oVirt
                                  Bugzilla[2].<br>
                                  <br>
                                  This update is the first beta release
                                  of the 4.2.0 version. This<br>
                                  release brings more than 230
                                  enhancements and more than one
                                  thousand<br>
                                  bug fixes, including more than 380
                                  high or urgent severity fixes, on<br>
                                  top of oVirt 4.1 series.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?<br>
                                  <br>
                                    *<br>
                                          The Administration Portalhas
                                  been completely redesigned using<br>
                                       Patternfly, a widely adopted
                                  standard in web application design.<br>
                                       It now features a cleaner, more
                                  intuitive design, for an improved<br>
                                       user experience.<br>
                                       *<br>
                                          There is an all-new VM
                                  Portalfor non-admin users.<br>
                                       *<br>
                                          A new High Performance virtual
                                  machinetype has been added to the<br>
                                       New VM dialog box in the
                                  Administration Portal.<br>
                                       *<br>
                                          Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds
                                  support for Open vSwitch software<br>
                                       defined networking (SDN).<br>
                                       *<br>
                                          oVirt now supports Nvidia
                                  vGPU.<br>
                                       *<br>
                                          The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage
                                  helps users with common<br>
                                       administration tasks.<br>
                                       *<br>
                                          Virt-v2vnow supports
                                  Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  For more information about these and
                                  other features, check out the<br>
                                  oVirt 4.2.0 blog post<br>
                                  &lt;<a
                                    href="https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/<wbr>09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/</a>&gt;.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  This release is available now on
                                  x86_64 architecture for:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or
                                  later<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or
                                  later<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  This release supports Hypervisor Hosts
                                  on x86_64 and ppc64le<br>
                                  architectures for:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or
                                  later<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or
                                  later<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64
                                  only)<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  See the release notes draft [3] for
                                  installation / upgrade<br>
                                  instructions and a list of new
                                  features and bugs fixed.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Notes:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  - oVirt Appliance is already
                                  available.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  - An async release of oVirt Node will
                                  follow soon.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Additional Resources:<br>
                                  <br>
                                  * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0
                                  release highlights:<br>
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                                    href="http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ovirt.org/release/<wbr>4.2.0/</a><br>
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                                    href="http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/"
                                    target="_blank"
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                                  the oVirt blog:<br>
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                                    target="_blank"
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                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ovirt.org/<wbr>community/</a>
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                                    href="https://www.ovirt.org/community/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.ovirt.org/<wbr>community/</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <br>
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                                    href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/<wbr>enter_bug.cgi?classification=<wbr>oVirt</a><br>
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                                    href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/<wbr>enter_bug.cgi?classification=<wbr>oVirt</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <br>
                                  [3] <a
                                    href="http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ovirt.org/release/<wbr>4.2.0/</a><br>
                                  &lt;<a
                                    href="http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ovirt.org/release/<wbr>4.2.0/</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <br>
                                  [4] <a
                                    href="http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://resources.ovirt.org/<wbr>pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/</a><br>
                                  &lt;<a
                                    href="http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://resources.ovirt.org/<wbr>pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/</a>&gt;<br>
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                                  SANDRO BONAZZOLA<br>
                                  <br>
                                  ASSOCIATE MANAGER, SOFTWARE
                                  ENGINEERING, EMEA ENG VIRTUALIZATION
                                  R&amp;D<br>
                                  <br>
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                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.redhat.com/</a>&gt;<br>
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                                    href="https://redhat.com/trusted"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://redhat.com/trusted</a>&gt;<br>
                                  <br>
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                                    href="http://www.teraplan.it/redhat-osd-2017/"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.teraplan.it/<wbr>redhat-osd-2017/</a>&gt;<br>
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                          <a
                            href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.ovirt.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/users</a><br>
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                        <span
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br
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                        <span
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Users
                          mailing list</span><br
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                        <a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org"
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                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Users@ovirt.org</a><br
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                        <a
                          href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users"
style="font-family:FantasqueSansMono-Regular;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.ovirt.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/users</a></div>
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              ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
              Users mailing list<br>
              <a href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org" moz-do-not-send="true">Users@ovirt.org</a><br>
              <a href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.ovirt.org/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/users</a><br>
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Users mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Users@ovirt.org">Users@ovirt.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users">http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users</a>
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