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    <p>Should not this type of content not come from the dev team before
      the product is in GA ?<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/12/2017 15:53, Yaniv Kaul wrote:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 21, 2017 6:17 PM, "FERNANDO
              FREDIANI" &lt;<a href="mailto:fernando.frediani@upx.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">fernando.frediani@upx.com</a>&gt;
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                  <p>Sure Sandro, but I was talking about documentation
                    which lacks for certain procedures that are very
                    common. <br>
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        <div dir="auto">Our site is open and contributions are welcome.
          If you can start such a document, that'll be great. </div>
        <div dir="auto">Y. </div>
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                  <p>Regards<font color="#888888"><br>
                      Fernando<br>
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                    <div class="m_-6048412989128419992moz-cite-prefix">On
                      21/12/2017 12:32, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:<br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-12-21 12:55
                            GMT+01:00 FERNANDO FREDIANI <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                href="mailto:fernando.frediani@upx.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">fernando.frediani@upx.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                                <p>Updates are often problematic.</p>
                                <p>Whenever someone manages to do a 4.1
                                  to 4.2 upgrade could possibility post
                                  it to the Wiki. That will help a lot
                                  of people.</p>
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                            <div>Well, we did :-) Our infra is running
                              on 4.2.0: <a
                                href="https://engine-phx.ovirt.org/ovirt-engine/"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://engine-phx.<wbr>ovirt.org/ovirt-engine/</a></div>
                            <div>We are keeping it updates since 3.4
                              every time we release.</div>
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                                <p>Fernando<br>
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                                    <div
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                                      21/12/2017 08:24, Sandro Bonazzola
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-12-21
                                            11:03 GMT+01:00 Giorgio
                                            Biacchi <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
href="mailto:giorgio@di.unimi.it" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">giorgio@di.unimi.it</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                                              rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
                                              I have additional info on
                                              the problem. I run
                                              /usr/share/ovirt-engine/setup/<wbr>dbutils/fkvalidator.sh
                                              and the problem is on 4
                                              templates subversions. In
                                              detail we have two
                                              templates and each one has
                                              two subversions.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Other templates with no
                                              subversions have no
                                              problem.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Thanks again, I hope this
                                              helps in debugging.</blockquote>
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                                            <div>Thanks Giorgio, do you
                                              mind open a bug on <a
                                                href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=ovirt-engine"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugzilla.redhat.com<wbr>/enter_bug.cgi?product=ovirt-<wbr>engine</a>
                                              to track this?</div>
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                                                On 12/20/2017 04:04 PM,
                                                Martin Perina wrote:<br>
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class="m_-6048412989128419992gmail-m_-7265560288232568374gmail-"> Hi,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  could you please share
                                                  the full setup log?<br>
                                                  <br>
​/var/log/ovirt-engine/setup/o<wbr>virt-engine-setup-201712201103<wbr>37-cy5ri9.log<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Thanks<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Martin<br>
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                                                  On Wed, Dec 20, 2017
                                                  at 2:22 PM, Sandro
                                                  Bonazzola &lt;<a
                                                    href="mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">sbonazzo@redhat.com</a>
                                                  &lt;mailto:<a
                                                    href="mailto:sbonazzo@redhat.com"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">sbonazzo@redhat.com</a>&gt;&gt;
                                                  wrote:<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                      2017-12-20 11:58
                                                  GMT+01:00 Giorgio
                                                  Biacchi &lt;<a
                                                    href="mailto:giorgio@di.unimi.it"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">giorgio@di.unimi.it</a><br>
                                                </span>     &lt;mailto:<a
href="mailto:giorgio@di.unimi.it" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">giorgio@di.unimi.it</a>&gt;&gt;:<span
class="m_-6048412989128419992gmail-m_-7265560288232568374gmail-"><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                          Hello list,<br>
                                                          I was about to
                                                  upgrade from
                                                  4.1.8.2-1.el7.centos
                                                  to 4.2.0 but<br>
                                                          engine-setup
                                                  fails. Here's the
                                                  relevant output:<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                          [ ERROR ]
                                                  Failed to execute
                                                  stage 'Setup
                                                  validation': Failed
                                                  checking<br>
                                                          Engine
                                                  database: an exception
                                                  occurred while
                                                  validating the Engine<br>
                                                          database,
                                                  please check the logs
                                                  for getting more info:<br>
                                                                  
                                                   Constraint violation
                                                  found in  vm_interface
                                                  (vmt_guid) |1<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                          [ INFO  ]
                                                  Stage: Clean up<br>
                                                                     Log
                                                  file is located at<br>
                                                          ​​<br>
                                                         
                                                  /var/log/ovirt-engine/setup/ov<wbr>irt-engine-setup-2017122011033<wbr>7-cy5ri9.log<br>
                                                          [ INFO  ]
                                                  Generating answer file<br>
                                                         
                                                  '/var/lib/ovirt-engine/setup/a<wbr>nswers/<a
href="http://20171220110551-setup.co" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">20171220110551-setup.co</a><br>
                                                </span>         &lt;<a
                                                  href="http://20171220110551-setup.co"
                                                  rel="noreferrer"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://20171220110551-setup.c<wbr>o</a>&gt;nf'<span
class="m_-6048412989128419992gmail-m_-7265560288232568374gmail-"><br>
                                                          [ INFO  ]
                                                  Stage: Pre-termination<br>
                                                          [ INFO  ]
                                                  Stage: Termination<br>
                                                          [ ERROR ]
                                                  Execution of setup
                                                  failed<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                          any ideas??<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                      Adding some
                                                  people, I think one of
                                                  your vms has an
                                                  invalid configuration<br>
                                                      saved in the db.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                          --         gb<br>
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