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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/20/2018 12:17 PM, Michal
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          <div class="">On 19 Feb 2018, at 23:36, Jason Keltz &lt;<a
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              <p class="">Hi Michal,</p>
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                  <pre class="" wrap="">On 15 Feb 2018, at 16:37, Jason Keltz <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jas@cse.yorku.ca" moz-do-not-send="true">&lt;jas@cse.yorku.ca&gt;</a> wrote:

On 02/15/2018 08:48 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nicolas@devels.es" moz-do-not-send="true">nicolas@devels.es</a> wrote:
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We upgraded one of our infrastructures to 4.2.0 recently and since then some of our machines have the "Console" button greyed-out in the Admin UI, like they were disabled.

I changed their compatibility to 4.2 but with no luck, as they're still disabled.

Is there a way to know why is that, and how to solve it?

I'm attaching a screenshot.
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                  <pre class="" wrap="">Hi Nicolas.
I had the same problem with most of my VMs after the upgrade from 4.1 to 4.2.
See bugzilla here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1528868" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1528868</a>
(which admittedly was a mesh of a bunch of different issues that occurred)
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                <pre class="" wrap="">yeah, that’s not a good idea to mix more issues:)
Seems <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1528868#c26" moz-do-not-send="true">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1528868#c26</a> is the last one relevant to the grayed out console problem in this email thread.

it’s also possible to check "VM Devices” subtab and list the graphical devices. If this is the same problem as from Nicolas then it would list cirrus and it would be great if you can confirm the conditionas are similar (i.e. originally a 3.6 VM)</pre>
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              I believe it was originally a 3.6 VM.  Is there anywhere I
              can verify this info? If not, it would be helpful if oVirt
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      <div>well, we keep the date and who did that, but we can’t really
        keep all the logs forever. Well, you can if you archive them
        somewhere, but I guess that’s impractical for such a long
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    I wasn't really thinking in terms of logs.  I was thinking a
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        so this is a screenshot from VM where the button is grayed out
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      <div>Hm..it doesn’t look wrong.</div>
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    Yes.  <br>
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                <pre class="" wrap="">And then - if possible - describe some history of what happened. When was the VM created, when was cluster updated, when the system was upgraded and to what versions.
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              All I know is that everything was working fine, then I
              updated to 4.2, updated cluster version, and then most of
              my consoles were not available.  I can't remember if this
              happened before the cluster upgrade or not.  I suspect it
              was most and not all VMs since some of them had been
              created later than 3.6, and this was  an older one.  I
              only have this one VM left in this state because I had
              deleted the other VMs and recreated them one at a time... 
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        <div>Thanks.</div>
        <div>Can you get engine.log and vdsm log when you attempt to
          start that VM ? just the relevant part is enough.</div>
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    Sure.. I restarted the VM (called "rs").<br>
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    engine.log:
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    vdsm log:
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    Jason.<br>
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