From ykatabam at redhat.com Tue Jun 17 19:00:36 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7495284568710262430==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Yuko Katabami To: devel at ovirt.org Subject: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permissive" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 09:00:30 +1000 Message-ID: <53A0C88E.2020409@redhat.com> --===============7495284568710262430== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030602090603000708080005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization = project along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different = locale. Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our = questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering = questions, so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on = the context. Here is our first question. *File:***LocalizedEnums* **Resource ID:*** SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE* **Strings:*** Permissive *Question:* Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin = Portal? (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it = on the screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as = they appear in the command line in English, however this string starts = with the uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as = descriptive or it refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the = terminal. Kind regards, Yuko Katabami --------------030602090603000708080005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all,

I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization project along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale.
Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4.
It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering questions, so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the context.

Here is our first question.

File: LocalizedEnums
Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE
Strings: Permissive
Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in t= he Admin Portal? (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they appear in the command line in English, however this string starts with the uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or it refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal.

Kind regards,

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Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or = should be left in English? Kdump: Unknown Enabled Disabled SELinux: Enforcing Permissive Disabled On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote: > Hello all, > > I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization = > project along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a = > different locale. > Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our = > questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. > It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering = > questions, so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based = > on the context. > > Here is our first question. > > *File:***LocalizedEnums* > **Resource ID:*** SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE* > **Strings:*** Permissive > *Question:* Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin = > Portal? (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check = > it on the screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes = > untranslated as they appear in the command line in English, however = > this string starts with the uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if = > this is used as descriptive or it refers exactly the "permissive" mode = > as shown in the terminal. > > Kind regards, > > Yuko Katabami = --------------060608080503020609080600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and SElinux.
Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or should be left in English?

Kdump:
Unknown
Enabled
Disabled

SELinux:
Enforcing
Permissive
Disabled


On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote:
Hello all,

I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization project along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale.
Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4.
It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering questions, so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the context.

Here is our first question.

File: LocalizedEnums
Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE
Strings: Permissive
Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin Portal? (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they appear in the command line in English, however this string starts with the uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or it refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal.

Kind regards,

Yuko Katabami

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Original Message ----- > From: "Yuko Katabami" > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM > = > In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and SElinu= x. > Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or shoul= d be > left in English? > = > Kdump: > Unknown > Enabled > Disabled adding Martin. = > = > SELinux: > Enforcing > Permissive > Disabled as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all values for the SELinux field = map = directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say that t= hese = values should be left in English. = > = > = > On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote: > = > = > Hello all, > = > I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization project > along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale. > Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our > questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. > It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering questio= ns, > so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the context. > = > Here is our first question. > = > File: LocalizedEnums > Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE > Strings: Permissive > Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin Porta= l? > (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the > screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they app= ear > in the command line in English, however this string starts with the > uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or it > refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal. > = > Kind regards, > = > Yuko Katabami > = > _______________________________________________ > Devel mailing list > Devel(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel --===============5941166149420352640==-- From ykatabam at redhat.com Tue Jun 17 22:05:46 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1170473703408838994==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Yuko Katabami To: devel at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permissive" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:05:42 +1000 Message-ID: <53A0F3F6.9080007@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 701144565.27564904.1403055492258.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com --===============1170473703408838994== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020209000207050906040001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Yuko Katabami" >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM >> >> In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and SElin= ux. >> Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or shou= ld be >> left in English? >> >> Kdump: >> Unknown >> Enabled >> Disabled > adding Martin. > >> SELinux: >> Enforcing >> Permissive >> Disabled > as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all values for the SELinux fiel= d map > directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say that= these > values should be left in English. Thanks Einav for your clarification. I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly = and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archive. @Dima, thank you very much for your reply. I share this with other = translators. Yuko > >> >> On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote: >> >> >> Hello all, >> >> I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization proje= ct >> along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale. >> Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our >> questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. >> It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering questi= ons, >> so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the context. >> >> Here is our first question. >> >> File: LocalizedEnums >> Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE >> Strings: Permissive >> Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin Port= al? >> (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the >> screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they ap= pear >> in the command line in English, however this string starts with the >> uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or it >> refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Yuko Katabami >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel --------------020209000207050906040001 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuko Katabami" <ykatabam(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM

In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and SElinux.
Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or should =
be
left in English?

Kdump:
Unknown
Enabled
Disabled
adding Martin. =


SELinux:
Enforcing
Permissive
Disabled
as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all values for the SELinux field =
map =

directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say that t=
hese  =

values should be left in English. 
Thanks Einav for your clarification.
I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archive.

@Dima, thank you very much=C2=A0 for your reply. I share this with other translators.

Yuko


On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote:


Hello all,

I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization project
along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale.
Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our
questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4.
It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering questions,
so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the context.

Here is our first question.

File: LocalizedEnums
Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE
Strings: Permissive
Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin Portal?
(we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the
screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they appear
in the command line in English, however this string starts with the
uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or it
refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal.

Kind regards,

Yuko Katabami

_______________________________________________
Devel mailing list
Dev=
el(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel


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06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Yuko Katabami" > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM > >> > >> In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and > >> SElinux. > >> Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or sh= ould > >> be > >> left in English? > >> > >> Kdump: > >> Unknown > >> Enabled > >> Disabled > > adding Martin. Hi, kdump is the name of kexec based crash dumping mechansim for Linux [1], so I wouldn't translate it. But kdump configuration statuses can be translated easily. Thanks Martin [1] http://lse.sourceforge.net/kdump/ > > > >> SELinux: > >> Enforcing > >> Permissive > >> Disabled > > as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all values for the SELinux fi= eld > > map > > directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say th= at > > these > > values should be left in English. > Thanks Einav for your clarification. > I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly > and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archive. > = > @Dima, thank you very much for your reply. I share this with other > translators. > = > Yuko > > > >> > >> On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization pro= ject > >> along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale. > >> Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our > >> questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. > >> It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering > >> questions, > >> so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the conte= xt. > >> > >> Here is our first question. > >> > >> File: LocalizedEnums > >> Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE > >> Strings: Permissive > >> Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin > >> Portal? > >> (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the > >> screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they > >> appear > >> in the command line in English, however this string starts with the > >> uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or= it > >> refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Yuko Katabami > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Devel mailing list > >> Devel(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > = > = >=20 --===============0039450454075830686==-- From ykatabam at redhat.com Wed Jun 18 01:49:28 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0060338553165458103==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Yuko Katabami To: devel at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permissive" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:49:22 +1000 Message-ID: <53A12862.7080804@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 837359629.26257844.1403069986448.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com --===============0060338553165458103== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050101040809000302010409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/18/2014 03:39 PM, Martin Perina wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Yuko Katabami" >> To: "Einav Cohen" , "Martin Perina" , "Dima Kuznetsov" >> Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:05:42 AM >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permiss= ive" >> >> >> On 06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote: >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Yuko Katabami" >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM >>>> >>>> In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and >>>> SElinux. >>>> Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or sh= ould >>>> be >>>> left in English? >>>> >>>> Kdump: >>>> Unknown >>>> Enabled >>>> Disabled >>> adding Martin. > Hi, > > kdump is the name of kexec based crash dumping mechansim for Linux [1], > so I wouldn't translate it. But kdump configuration statuses can be > translated easily. > > Thanks > > Martin > > [1] http://lse.sourceforge.net/kdump/ Hi Martin, Thank you very much for your reply and informaiton. Yes, we will leave kdump itself untranslated as it is a proper noun. With statuses, are these same as SELinux statuses -- the values in this = field map directly to what is shown on host's terminal? (and if so, better to leave them English, so that users can recognize = them easily?) Kind regards, Yuko > >>>> SELinux: >>>> Enforcing >>>> Permissive >>>> Disabled >>> as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all values for the SELinux fi= eld >>> map >>> directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say th= at >>> these >>> values should be left in English. >> Thanks Einav for your clarification. >> I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly >> and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archive. >> >> @Dima, thank you very much for your reply. I share this with other >> translators. >> >> Yuko >>>> On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization pro= ject >>>> along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale. >>>> Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our >>>> questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. >>>> It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering >>>> questions, >>>> so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the conte= xt. >>>> >>>> Here is our first question. >>>> >>>> File: LocalizedEnums >>>> Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE >>>> Strings: Permissive >>>> Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin >>>> Portal? >>>> (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the >>>> screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they >>>> appear >>>> in the command line in English, however this string starts with the >>>> uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or= it >>>> refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal. >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> Yuko Katabami >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Devel mailing list >>>> Devel(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >> >> --------------050101040809000302010409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 06/18/2014 03:39 PM, Martin Perina wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuko Katabami" <ykatabam(a)redhat.com>
To: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Perina" <mperina(a)r=
edhat.com>, "Dima Kuznetsov" <dkuznets(a)redhat.com>
Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:05:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permissive"


On 06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuko Katabami" <ykatabam(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM

In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and
SElinux.
Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or should
be
left in English?

Kdump:
Unknown
Enabled
Disabled
adding Martin.
Hi,

kdump is the name of kexec based crash dumping mechansim for Linux [1],
so I wouldn't translate it. But kdump configuration statuses can be
translated easily.

Thanks

Martin

[1] http://lse.sourceforge.net/kdump/
Hi Martin,

Thank you very much for your reply and informaiton.
Yes, we will leave kdump itself untranslated as it is a proper noun.
With statuses, are these same as SELinux statuses -- the values in this field map directly to what is shown on host's terminal?
(and if so, better to leave them English, so that users can recognize them easily?)

Kind regards,

Yuko



          
SELinux:
Enforcing
Permissive
Disabled
as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all valu=
es for the SELinux field
map
directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say that
these
values should be left in English.
Thanks Einav for your clarification.
I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly
and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archive.

@Dima, thank you very much  for your reply. I share this with other
translators.

Yuko

          
On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote:


Hello all,

I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization project
along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale.
Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our
questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4.
It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering
questions,
so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the context.

Here is our first question.

File: LocalizedEnums
Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE
Strings: Permissive
Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin
Portal?
(we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the
screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they
appear
in the command line in English, however this string starts with the
uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or it
refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal.

Kind regards,

Yuko Katabami

_______________________________________________
Devel mailing list
Dev=
el(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel




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Perina" > Cc: "Einav Cohen" , "Dima Kuznetsov" , devel(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:49:22 AM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permissi= ve" > = > = > On 06/18/2014 03:39 PM, Martin Perina wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Yuko Katabami" > >> To: "Einav Cohen" , "Martin Perina" > >> , "Dima Kuznetsov" > >> Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:05:42 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] > >> "Permissive" > >> > >> > >> On 06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote: > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Yuko Katabami" > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM > >>>> > >>>> In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and > >>>> SElinux. > >>>> Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or > >>>> should > >>>> be > >>>> left in English? > >>>> > >>>> Kdump: > >>>> Unknown > >>>> Enabled > >>>> Disabled > >>> adding Martin. > > Hi, > > > > kdump is the name of kexec based crash dumping mechansim for Linux [1], > > so I wouldn't translate it. But kdump configuration statuses can be > > translated easily. > > > > Thanks > > > > Martin > > > > [1] http://lse.sourceforge.net/kdump/ > Hi Martin, > = > Thank you very much for your reply and informaiton. > Yes, we will leave kdump itself untranslated as it is a proper noun. > With statuses, are these same as SELinux statuses -- the values in this > field map directly to what is shown on host's terminal? > (and if so, better to leave them English, so that users can recognize > them easily?) > = > Kind regards, > = > Yuko No sure, that I understand, but those statuses are oVirt specific. Theys ju= st inform webadmin user about: 1) Enabled - kdump on host is configured and works fine 2) Disabled - kdump on is not configured properly 3) Unknown - VDSM didn't report anything about kdump config (probably too old version of VDSM) So personally I would translate them. Martin > = > > > >>>> SELinux: > >>>> Enforcing > >>>> Permissive > >>>> Disabled > >>> as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all values for the SELinux > >>> field > >>> map > >>> directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say = that > >>> these > >>> values should be left in English. > >> Thanks Einav for your clarification. > >> I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly > >> and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archi= ve. > >> > >> @Dima, thank you very much for your reply. I share this with other > >> translators. > >> > >> Yuko > >>>> On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization > >>>> project > >>>> along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different loca= le. > >>>> Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post o= ur > >>>> questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. > >>>> It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering > >>>> questions, > >>>> so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the > >>>> context. > >>>> > >>>> Here is our first question. > >>>> > >>>> File: LocalizedEnums > >>>> Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE > >>>> Strings: Permissive > >>>> Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin > >>>> Portal? > >>>> (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on = the > >>>> screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they > >>>> appear > >>>> in the command line in English, however this string starts with the > >>>> uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive = or > >>>> it > >>>> refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal. > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards, > >>>> > >>>> Yuko Katabami > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Devel mailing list > >>>> Devel(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > >> > >> > = > = >=20 --===============5998854728787426035==-- From ykatabam at redhat.com Wed Jun 18 01:55:57 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4559447909871848525==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Yuko Katabami To: devel at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permissive" Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:55:49 +1000 Message-ID: <53A129E5.3000906@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 932903508.26260428.1403070825918.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com --===============4559447909871848525== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020708020901030506070608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 06/18/2014 03:53 PM, Martin Perina wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Yuko Katabami" >> To: "Martin Perina" >> Cc: "Einav Cohen" , "Dima Kuznetsov" , devel(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:49:22 AM >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permiss= ive" >> >> >> On 06/18/2014 03:39 PM, Martin Perina wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Yuko Katabami" >>>> To: "Einav Cohen" , "Martin Perina" >>>> , "Dima Kuznetsov" >>>> Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org >>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:05:42 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] >>>> "Permissive" >>>> >>>> >>>> On 06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote: >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Yuko Katabami" >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and >>>>>> SElinux. >>>>>> Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or >>>>>> should >>>>>> be >>>>>> left in English? >>>>>> >>>>>> Kdump: >>>>>> Unknown >>>>>> Enabled >>>>>> Disabled >>>>> adding Martin. >>> Hi, >>> >>> kdump is the name of kexec based crash dumping mechansim for Linux [1], >>> so I wouldn't translate it. But kdump configuration statuses can be >>> translated easily. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> [1] http://lse.sourceforge.net/kdump/ >> Hi Martin, >> >> Thank you very much for your reply and informaiton. >> Yes, we will leave kdump itself untranslated as it is a proper noun. >> With statuses, are these same as SELinux statuses -- the values in this >> field map directly to what is shown on host's terminal? >> (and if so, better to leave them English, so that users can recognize >> them easily?) >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Yuko > No sure, that I understand, but those statuses are oVirt specific. Theys = just > inform webadmin user about: > > 1) Enabled - kdump on host is configured and works fine > 2) Disabled - kdump on is not configured properly > 3) Unknown - VDSM didn't report anything about kdump config (probably > too old version of VDSM) > > So personally I would translate them. > > Martin Hi Martin, Thank you very much for your prompt reply. That's very clear and yes, we = should translate these. I will share this with other translators. Kind regards, Yuko > >>>>>> SELinux: >>>>>> Enforcing >>>>>> Permissive >>>>>> Disabled >>>>> as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all values for the SELinux >>>>> field >>>>> map >>>>> directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say = that >>>>> these >>>>> values should be left in English. >>>> Thanks Einav for your clarification. >>>> I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly >>>> and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archi= ve. >>>> >>>> @Dima, thank you very much for your reply. I share this with other >>>> translators. >>>> >>>> Yuko >>>>>> On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization >>>>>> project >>>>>> along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different loca= le. >>>>>> Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post o= ur >>>>>> questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4. >>>>>> It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering >>>>>> questions, >>>>>> so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the >>>>>> context. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is our first question. >>>>>> >>>>>> File: LocalizedEnums >>>>>> Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE >>>>>> Strings: Permissive >>>>>> Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin >>>>>> Portal? >>>>>> (we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on = the >>>>>> screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they >>>>>> appear >>>>>> in the command line in English, however this string starts with the >>>>>> uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive = or >>>>>> it >>>>>> refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yuko Katabami >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Devel mailing list >>>>>> Devel(a)ovirt.org >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>> >> >> --------------020708020901030506070608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 06/18/2014 03:53 PM, Martin Perina wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuko Katabami" <ykatabam(a)redhat.com>
To: "Martin Perina" <mperina(a)redhat.com>
Cc: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com>, "Dima Kuznetsov" <dkuznets(=
a)redhat.com>, devel(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:49:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1] "Permissive"


On 06/18/2014 03:39 PM, Martin Perina wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuko Katabami" <ykatabam(a)redhat.com>=
;
To: "Einav Cohen" <ecohen(a)redhat.com>, "Martin Perina"
<=
;mperina(a)redhat.com>, "Dima Kuznetsov" <dkuznets(a)redhat.com>=

Cc: devel(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:05:42 AM
Subject: Re: [ovirt-devel] [oVirt 3.5 Localization Question #1]
"Permissive"


On 06/18/2014 11:38 AM, Einav Cohen wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuko Katabami" <ykatabam(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:32:27 PM

In the same file, I found more statuses and they are for Kdump and
SElinux.
Could anyone please tell me if all of these should be translated or
should
be
left in English?

Kdump:
Unknown
Enabled
Disabled
adding Martin.
Hi,

kdump is the name of kexec based crash dumping mechansim for Linux [1],
so I wouldn't translate it. But kdump configuration statuses can be
translated easily.

Thanks

Martin

[1] http://lse.sourceforge.net/kdump/
Hi Martin,

Thank you very much for your reply and informaiton.
Yes, we will leave kdump itself untranslated as it is a proper noun.
With statuses, are these same as SELinux statuses -- the values in this
field map directly to what is shown on host's terminal?
(and if so, better to leave them English, so that users can recognize
them easily?)

Kind regards,

Yuko
No sure, that I understand, but those statuses are oVirt specific. Theys ju=
st
inform webadmin user about:

  1) Enabled - kdump on host is configured and works fine
  2) Disabled - kdump on is not configured properly
  3) Unknown - VDSM didn't report anything about kdump config (probably
               too old version of VDSM)

So personally I would translate them.

Martin
Hi Martin,

Thank you very much for your prompt reply. That's very clear and yes, we should translate these.
I will share this with other translators.

Kind regards,

Yuko



        

          
SELinux:
Enforcing
Permissive
Disabled
as Dima mentioned in his previous e-mail: all =
values for the SELinux
field
map
directly to what is shown on host's terminal. Therefore, I would say that
these
values should be left in English.
Thanks Einav for your clarification.
I just realized that I did not subscribe the new mailing list properly
and did not receive the previous email. I just checked it in the archive.

@Dima, thank you very much  for your reply. I share this with other
translators.

Yuko
On 06/18/2014 09:00 AM, Yuko Katabami wrote:


Hello all,

I am a Brisbane-based translator working on oVirt 3.5 localization
project
along with 5 other translators, each specialized in a different locale.
Our localization cycle is just kicked off and I would like to post our
questions to this mailing list, just as I did for 3.4.
It would be greatly appreciated if you could help us by answering
questions,
so that we can ensure accuracy of our translations, based on the
context.

Here is our first question.

File: LocalizedEnums
Resource ID: SELinuxMode___PERMISSIVE
Strings: Permissive
Question: Could someone explain to us how this appears in the Admin
Portal?
(we currently do not have a demo environment and cannot check it on the
screen). Translators usually leave SELinux modes untranslated as they
appear
in the command line in English, however this string starts with the
uppercase letter "P". We just wonder if this is used as descriptive or
it
refers exactly the "permissive" mode as shown in the terminal.

Kind regards,

Yuko Katabami

_______________________________________________
Devel mailing list
Dev=
el(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/devel





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