On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:54 AM, Martin Sivak <msivak@redhat.com> wrote:

> Right, still it is an IRC technology, and every user must set it up in order
> to keep their presence (which you get out-of-the-box from above-mentioned).
> Not everyone can/will do it.

Meaning it is federated, you can connect to any server you want and
the protocol is open and dead simple + there are hundreds of clients.
Including web based.. in case you did not look. The same applies to
archiver services for IRC.

So just setup an archive, publish the irc information + a link to web
based client and you get the best of both worlds.

"Not everyone can/will do it." It's a pain.

How does a web-based client with archiving work with a private IRC server behind openvpn?

What if the archiver fails and you miss important messages? How do you know the archiver hasn't failed?

Does it let you post images in the chat, where everyone (no matter their client) can see them?

Does it integrate with other services that people use, like trello and jira? (Can edit cards / bugs right in the chat)

I just want to work. I don't want to spend (waste, imo) time on rolling my own chat technology when I can connect to a website and get on with my day.

Just some random thoughts I had. I probably said the same stuff last time this came up.

Best wishes,

Greg

The only alternative that got close was Jabber (IM, groups and
supports file transfers), too bad the adoption there is stagnating.

Martin

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Roy Golan <rgolan@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Sep 2017 at 11:14 Artyom Lukianov <alukiano@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> Like an alternative to Slack or gitter, you can run ZNC server on some VM,
>> that will save all messages for you.
>>
> Right, still it is an IRC technology, and every user must set it up in order
> to keep their presence (which you get out-of-the-box from above-mentioned).
> Not everyone can/will do it.
>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:31 AM, Marc Young <3vilpenguin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there hope for slack over IRC?
>>>
>>> The problem with IRC is all the connect/disconnect chatter (and offline
>>> being a black hole)
>>>
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