On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Eyal Edri <eedri@redhat.com> wrote:


On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Sandro Bonazzola <sbonazzo@redhat.com> wrote:
Hi,

I'm taking a discussion starting in gerrit to the mailing lists for broader audience discussion.
In https://gerrit.ovirt.org/69268 it has been asked:

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Sandro, can someone from you team fix this?

It does not make sense that ovirt-imageio maintainers will babysit this code base. This must be the responsibility of your team. We have separate projects for this; we maintain ovirt-imageio, your team maintain the jenkins project.

If you want us to maintain this, this code must move into ovirt-imageio repository, so we have full control of it.
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So I'd like to make clear a couple of things.

Integration team is not committing to maintain the hundreds of jenkins jobs currently existing alone.

Integration team is also not committing monitoring them.

integration team is not maintaining Jenkins project. Jenkins project is used by developers who need their tests and builds to be executed in Jenkins. you're free to run your tests wherever you feel more comfortable and build packages in your preferred build service (copr, koji, openbuild, Jenkins, centos cbs,...) provided that on release day the source code is correctly tagged in gerrit and tarball available on resources.ovirt.org. If the rpms are not available within CentOS Virt SIG and Fedora main repository or in a copr repository referenced by ovirt-release rpm, you're also required to provide rpms and src.rpms to be published within oVirt yum repository.

As release engineering manager, I try to fix Jenkins issues whenever I can for those jobs which are needed to get the release built and published so in this specific case, I will probably end up with taking over the patch and get it to merged state just because fc23 is EOL and as release engineering we don't want fc23 packages being shipped anymore.

If you want to use Jenkins, you're allowed to. oVirt infra team is maintaining the Jenkins server infrastructure and the Standard CI framework to make it easier to write tests and build scripts.
If you need help on that area, please open a ticket on infra-support@ovirt.org.

I'm here for any further question or open discussion.

I completely agree with Sandro. 

Its not the responsibility of infra team or integration team to make sure a certain oVirt project is building / compiling / testing for any supported OS, this lays solely on the maintainer or the team developing the project.
As Sandro mentioned, the infra team is providing simple tools for building / testing / publishing any oVirt project which uses the standard CI and continues to evolve and simplify the process even more
so it will be very easy for anyone to add those. 

If the current tools / framework is missing something or mis-behaving, you can also contact the infra team or open a ticket as Sandro mentioned above and we'll do our best to find the best solution for it.

Perhaps there's a 'handover' process that is missing, so when the initial script/job is written it'll be passed properly to the maintainer?
Y.
 
 


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