From eedri at redhat.com Mon Jul 2 10:52:22 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8768117127525219816==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: infra meeting tommorow Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 10:52:22 -0400 Message-ID: <7f925644-acc2-4e92-993c-b581b33ddeb2@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: ba387ea1-c6b4-4daa-8cf8-e73910fc5bbf@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============8768117127525219816== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sorry guys, i'm on PTO tomorrow, won't be able to attend the meeting this w= eek. Eyal. --===============8768117127525219816==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 2 11:41:12 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9161409193838281077==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: oVirt Infra weekly Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 11:41:12 -0400 Message-ID: <04a32a9d-2b38-4261-9681-e8320e4fdf25@zmail12.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> --===============9161409193838281077== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D_63bdf4d4-a83d-4c20-9e63-b0b19a031d3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following is a new meeting request: Subject: oVirt Infra weekly = Organizer: "Karsten Wade" = Location: #ovirt on irc.oftc.net = Time: 7:00:00 AM - 8:00:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Recurrence : Every Tuesday No end date Effective Jul 3, 2012 Invitees: infra(a)ovirt.org = *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Weekly oVirt Infrastructure Team meeting. http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings To see in your timezone date -d 'TUESDAY 1000 EDT' = --=3D_63bdf4d4-a83d-4c20-9e63-b0b19a031d3d Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The following is a new meeting request:

Subject:oVirt Infra weekly
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Location:#ovirt on irc.oftc.net
Time:7:00:00 AM - 8:00:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Ca= nada Pacific
Recurrence: Every Tuesday No end d= ate Effective Jul 3, 2012

Invitees:infra(a)ovirt.org

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Weekly oVirt Infrastructure Team meeting.=

http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings

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Thanks Robert On 07/02/2012 11:41 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: > > > The following is a new meeting request: > > Subject: oVirt Infra weekly > Organizer: "Karsten Wade" > > Location: #ovirt on irc.oftc.net > Time: 7:00:00 AM - 8:00:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Recurrence : Every Tuesday No end date Effective Jul 3, 2012 > > Invitees: infra(a)ovirt.org > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Weekly oVirt Infrastructure Team meeting. > > http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings > > To see in your timezone date -d 'TUESDAY 1000 EDT' > > > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --------------090203040209050806050209 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Is there an agenda for the meeting?

Thanks
Robert

On 07/02/2012 11:41 AM, Karsten Wade wrote:

The following is a new meeting request:

Invitees:infra(a)ovirt.org
Subject: oVirt Infra weekly
Organizer: "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com>

Location: #ovirt on irc.oftc.net
Time: 7:00:00 AM - 8:00:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Recurrence : Every Tuesday No end date Effective Jul 3, 2012

Invitees: infra(a)ovirt.org

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Weekly oVirt Infrastructure Team meeting.

http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings

To see in your timezone date -d 'TUESDAY 1000 EDT' 

_______________________________________________
Infra mailing list
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http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra


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Yes, I'm working on that plus some reading materials, trying to get them out in the next few hours so people have a chance to look them over in advance. - - Karsten > Thanks Robert > = > On 07/02/2012 11:41 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: >> = >> = >> The following is a new meeting request: >> = >> Subject: oVirt Infra weekly Organizer: "Karsten Wade" >> >> = >> Location: #ovirt on irc.oftc.net Time: 7:00:00 AM - >> 8:00:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Recurrence : Every >> Tuesday No end date Effective Jul 3, 2012 >> = >> Invitees: infra(a)ovirt.org >> = >> *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >> = >> Weekly oVirt Infrastructure Team meeting. >> = >> http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Meetings >> = >> To see in your timezone date -d 'TUESDAY 1000 EDT' >> = >> = >> _______________________________________________ Infra mailing >> list Infra(a)ovirt.org = >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = > = - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://community.redhat.com .^\ http://TheOpenSourceWay.org @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP8gKD2ZIOBq0ODEERAoRuAJ43Hp793ubWYERuHFliHxBqC11eQQCeKbE6 tQifp6Jgca3mdRER0M/w+lY=3D =3DRgmM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4936520863468581930==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 03:52:52 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5045379674571283702==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Meeting reminder, agenda Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:52:49 -0700 Message-ID: <4FF2A4D1.2020100@redhat.com> --===============5045379674571283702== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The oVirt infrastructure team meeting is today 3 July at 1400 UTC on #ovirt on irc.oftc.net. I pulled together the below agenda. Anything missing? We'll also have a chance to review at the start of the meeting. See you then - Karsten http://ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-03 Agenda Short, one-line introductions. Agenda affirmation - anything to add or change? Review of open topics - what are the things we need to be talking about, in general? Some specific and ongoing tasks are on the Infrastructure team task list: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_task_list How are we going to be more open & enable others to do Infra work? Being transparent Building trust What is an oVirt sub-project and do we want to be one? http://www.ovirt.org/governance/adding-a-subproject/ What is the mission of the oVirt infra project? Strawdog: "To provide a free/open source infrastructure of participation that supports the development of the oVirt project, and to do so by providing full free/open access to the entire infrastructure as a collaboration." Any other business? (AOB) - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://community.redhat.com .^\ http://TheOpenSourceWay.org @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP8qTR2ZIOBq0ODEERAvkOAJ4kTuH8EzqZ8AnQikjNPypxEWZesgCdHkkZ 2+oufHbnQbYBn4m0P+V5WJo=3D =3DYnhX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5045379674571283702==-- From fabiand at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 09:31:00 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0305464185801692755==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Fabian Deutsch To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Repositories for oVirt Node Automated Testing Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:30:54 +0200 Message-ID: <1341322254.2403.7.camel@fdeutsch-laptop.local> In-Reply-To: 4FE366B3.8020009@redhat.com --===============0305464185801692755== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D-n2aZDN8SnOOw4Q/stNAS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Donnerstag, den 21.06.2012, 21:23 +0300 schrieb Itamar Heim: > unless any objections, I'll create this repo next week for fabian as > a=3D20 > sub repo as part of the ovirt node project=3D20 Hey, did you already find some time to create the repo? 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Oops, I think I was supposed to remind Itamar to create it, but I forgot to have someone remind me to remind Itamar.... Mike > = > Greetings > fabian > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============0333491669264773581==-- From iheim at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 10:16:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1463744039407297595==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Repositories for oVirt Node Automated Testing Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:15:59 +0300 Message-ID: <4FF2FE9F.6050402@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341322823.3574.3.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============1463744039407297595== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/03/2012 04:40 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 15:30 +0200, Fabian Deutsch wrote: >> Am Donnerstag, den 21.06.2012, 21:23 +0300 schrieb Itamar Heim: >>> unless any objections, I'll create this repo next week for fabian as >>> a >>> sub repo as part of the ovirt node project >> >> Hey, >> >> did you already find some time to create the repo? > > Oops, I think I was supposed to remind Itamar to create it, but I forgot > to have someone remind me to remind Itamar.... > ovirt-node-tests it inherits the permissions from ovirt-node, so same set of = permissions/maintainers for both. > Mike > >> >> Greetings >> fabian >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > --===============1463744039407297595==-- From fabiand at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 10:17:08 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5117948394709633458==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Fabian Deutsch To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Repositories for oVirt Node Automated Testing Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:17:01 +0200 Message-ID: <1341325021.2403.8.camel@fdeutsch-laptop.local> In-Reply-To: 4FF2FE9F.6050402@redhat.com --===============5117948394709633458== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D-DknQiQc6DUOYFTrNt1kd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Dienstag, den 03.07.2012, 17:15 +0300 schrieb Itamar Heim: > On 07/03/2012 04:40 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-07-03 at 15:30 +0200, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > >> Am Donnerstag, den 21.06.2012, 21:23 +0300 schrieb Itamar Heim: > >>> unless any objections, I'll create this repo next week for fabian as > >>> a > >>> sub repo as part of the ovirt node project > >> > >> Hey, > >> > >> did you already find some time to create the repo? > > > > Oops, I think I was supposed to remind Itamar to create it, but I forgo= =3D t > > to have someone remind me to remind Itamar.... > > >=3D20 > ovirt-node-tests > it inherits the permissions from ovirt-node, so same set of=3D20 > permissions/maintainers for both. thanks - fabian --=3D-DknQiQc6DUOYFTrNt1kd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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boundary="===============8467224920054303598==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Roy Golan To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: request to install syntax highlighting extention for our wiki Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:56:07 +0300 Message-ID: <4FF30807.3080900@redhat.com> --===============8467224920054303598== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please install this syntax highlighting extention = http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi Thanks, Roy --===============8467224920054303598==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 11:24:37 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1196833098708849847==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Meeting :: oVirt Infrastructure Team :: 2012-07-03 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 08:24:34 -0700 Message-ID: <4FF30EB2.9050506@redhat.com> --===============1196833098708849847== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-03-14.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-03-14.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-03-14.00.log.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #ovirt Meeting =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Meeting started by quaid at 14:00:28 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-03-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary - --------------- * Introductions (short) (quaid, 14:02:10) * LINK: http://ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-03 is the agenda (quaid, 14:04:38) * IDEA: Publican quickstart for OpenShift to run Publican-based doc sites (quaid, 14:07:05) * Agenda affirmation - anything to add? (quaid, 14:08:18) * LINK: http://ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-03 (ewoud, 14:08:37) * Review of open infrastructure topics - what do we care about? (quaid, 14:10:13) * LINK: http://www.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_task_list (quaid, 14:11:25) * LINK: http://ovirt.org/wiki/Design_of_oVirt_project_infrastructure (quaid, 14:12:19) * ACTION: Fill out infrastructure design page with a list of hosts and what goes on top of them, as a way to feed our scope discussion (quaid, 14:15:03) * ACTION: Plan to potentially move Jenkins from EC2 to a dedicated host for performance and cost reasons (quaid, 14:15:28) * AGREED: Linode box =3D=3D kitchen sink, jenkins, gerrit, and slaves are mostly EC2 (quaid, 14:15:56) * IDEA: Puppet or chef FTW! (quaid, 14:16:03) * ACTION: setup a Puppet server for ovirt infra (quaid, 14:18:32) * ACTION: Define what is the purview of infra@ and what is purview of generic arch@ (quaid, 14:33:32) * LINK: http://fedorareloaded.com/ (sgordon, 14:35:37) * LINK: http://www.fedorareloaded.com:8080/TopicIndex/Books/index.seam (sgordon, 14:36:13) * 07:24 < skvidal> quaid: in the private git repo (quaid, 14:37:13) * How are we going to be more open & enable others to do Infra work? (quaid, 14:37:36) * ACTION: Finish building trust on the mailing list (ewoud, 14:51:01) * ACTION: quaid to propose himself as seed for a trust circle on infra@ (quaid, 14:56:25) * Formal meeting at an end, informal chat which we'll log for now since we're on the same topics :) (quaid, 15:03:53) * ACTION: quaid to do first draft of services, servers, and infrastructure design for http://ovirt.org/wiki/Design_of_oVirt_project_infrastructure (quaid, 15:11:21) Meeting ended at 15:16:47 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * Fill out infrastructure design page with a list of hosts and what goes on top of them, as a way to feed our scope discussion * Plan to potentially move Jenkins from EC2 to a dedicated host for performance and cost reasons * setup a Puppet server for ovirt infra * Define what is the purview of infra@ and what is purview of generic arch@ * Finish building trust on the mailing list * quaid to propose himself as seed for a trust circle on infra@ * quaid to do first draft of services, servers, and infrastructure design for http://ovirt.org/wiki/Design_of_oVirt_project_infrastructure Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * quaid * quaid to propose himself as seed for a trust circle on infra@ * quaid to do first draft of services, servers, and infrastructure design for http://ovirt.org/wiki/Design_of_oVirt_project_infrastructure * **UNASSIGNED** * Fill out infrastructure design page with a list of hosts and what goes on top of them, as a way to feed our scope discussion * Plan to potentially move Jenkins from EC2 to a dedicated host for performance and cost reasons * setup a Puppet server for ovirt infra * Define what is the purview of infra@ and what is purview of generic arch@ * Finish building trust on the mailing list People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * quaid (170) * ewoud (51) * sgordon (47) * RobertM (27) * dneary (23) * ovirtbot (8) * apevec (7) * rgolan (4) * jbrooks (3) * mburns (2) * tjikkun_work (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://community.redhat.com .^\ http://TheOpenSourceWay.org @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP8w6y2ZIOBq0ODEERAnUmAKCl6Z6C1DfM7edGJ6+5pJYCPU6eegCgutJW 4PQcwrSIHnfjFNvVNHkqA8o=3D =3DQmCR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1196833098708849847==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 14:22:29 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1701135395274290605==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Enabling Extension:ConfirmAccount Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:22:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4FF33863.6010009@redhat.com> --===============1701135395274290605== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I just tried to create an account for the oVirt wiki and was kind of = surprised that to do so I had to contact someone who already had an = account. It seems like everyone who has an account can add new users, so = it looks like this is basically a spam avoidance policy. Is that right? If that's the case, I'd like to suggest enabling the ConfirmAccount = extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount - which = can be configured to ask users for a username & email address, and their = bio/reasons for wanting to have an account. The request is then added to = a moderation queue, and anyone who is in the Bureaucrat role can approve = the account creation request. To the user, this fits within the expected intimacy gradient. I plan on = blogging about the intimacy gradient which I talked about in my Ignite = talk at teh Red Hat Summit last week, I'll point people there then - the = basic idea is that you should not require people to have private = communications to get access to a semi-public resource like a wiki = account. In this case, you're making the request via a web page, and = although the end result is the same (a human checks if you're a human), = to the user it provides the same level of indirection as a Mailman = subscription page. What do you think? Seems like something we could do easily. Thanks, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============1701135395274290605==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 17:32:14 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2214409188435328130==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Enabling Extension:ConfirmAccount Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 14:32:11 -0700 Message-ID: <4FF364DB.80409@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FF33863.6010009@redhat.com --===============2214409188435328130== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2012 11:22 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi all, > = > I just tried to create an account for the oVirt wiki and was kind > of surprised that to do so I had to contact someone who already had > an account. It seems like everyone who has an account can add new > users, so it looks like this is basically a spam avoidance policy. > Is that right? Yes, I implemented it initially so we wouldn't have a wide open gateway when there wasn't a community of wiki watchers. Conversations on this list have been around other automagic that doesn't work because spammers work around it. > If that's the case, I'd like to suggest enabling the > ConfirmAccount extension > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount - which can > be configured to ask users for a username & email address, and > their bio/reasons for wanting to have an account. The request is > then added to a moderation queue, and anyone who is in the > Bureaucrat role can approve the account creation request. > = > To the user, this fits within the expected intimacy gradient. I > plan on blogging about the intimacy gradient which I talked about > in my Ignite talk at teh Red Hat Summit last week, I'll point > people there then - the basic idea is that you should not require > people to have private communications to get access to a > semi-public resource like a wiki account. In this case, you're > making the request via a web page, and although the end result is > the same (a human checks if you're a human), to the user it > provides the same level of indirection as a Mailman subscription > page. Overall, seems like a reasonable solution. It doesn't resolve the need for manual intervention, but it puts it in to a system that prevents people from falling between the cracks and makes things easy for all involved. A problem I have with the current "ask someone to make you an account" system is that it caters to the type of people who "just do it" - are confident and comfortable asking around for help, for permission, etc. I presume that is only 50% or less of the entire human population, so by default the current system is unfriendly to more than half the people who come across it. I'm not sure the current system fits in with your description, though - - there is a moment where it could be public or private. Under the current system, the best place to ask for a wiki account is IRC or the arch@ mailing list, since you'll get a fast response and it's quite public. But being able to go private at least means some portion of the 50%+ of the population that is less comfortable with asking around for permission ... well, they might not find it so uncomfortable to privately ask a perceived leader for a wiki key. I presume the ConfirmAccount has a public queue that only Bureaucrat's can resolve? That makes it public, but now we have a greater restriction on who can confirm accounts. Right now, anyone with an account can confirm, but under ConfirmAccount we'll have to designate and cultivate Bureaucrats, yes? - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://community.redhat.com .^\ http://TheOpenSourceWay.org @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP82Tb2ZIOBq0ODEERAsoBAJ41ZFmdA6L434yiAnwPPRDycp0jwwCfUE6y WcaCCp2a6YyK4o6XGU46Vew=3D =3DpGmu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============2214409188435328130==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 3 17:38:04 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2270413316520991131==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Enabling Extension:ConfirmAccount Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 17:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4FF36637.1080208@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FF364DB.80409@redhat.com --===============2270413316520991131== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/03/2012 05:32 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/03/2012 11:22 AM, Dave Neary wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just tried to create an account for the oVirt wiki and was kind >> of surprised that to do so I had to contact someone who already had >> an account. It seems like everyone who has an account can add new >> users, so it looks like this is basically a spam avoidance policy. >> Is that right? > Yes, I implemented it initially so we wouldn't have a wide open > gateway when there wasn't a community of wiki watchers. > > Conversations on this list have been around other automagic that > doesn't work because spammers work around it. > >> If that's the case, I'd like to suggest enabling the >> ConfirmAccount extension >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount - which can >> be configured to ask users for a username & email address, and >> their bio/reasons for wanting to have an account. The request is >> then added to a moderation queue, and anyone who is in the >> Bureaucrat role can approve the account creation request. >> >> To the user, this fits within the expected intimacy gradient. I >> plan on blogging about the intimacy gradient which I talked about >> in my Ignite talk at teh Red Hat Summit last week, I'll point >> people there then - the basic idea is that you should not require >> people to have private communications to get access to a >> semi-public resource like a wiki account. In this case, you're >> making the request via a web page, and although the end result is >> the same (a human checks if you're a human), to the user it >> provides the same level of indirection as a Mailman subscription >> page. > Overall, seems like a reasonable solution. It doesn't resolve the need > for manual intervention, but it puts it in to a system that prevents > people from falling between the cracks and makes things easy for all > involved. > > A problem I have with the current "ask someone to make you an account" > system is that it caters to the type of people who "just do it" - are > confident and comfortable asking around for help, for permission, etc. > I presume that is only 50% or less of the entire human population, so > by default the current system is unfriendly to more than half the > people who come across it. > > I'm not sure the current system fits in with your description, though > - - there is a moment where it could be public or private. Under the > current system, the best place to ask for a wiki account is IRC or the > arch@ mailing list, since you'll get a fast response and it's quite > public. But being able to go private at least means some portion of > the 50%+ of the population that is less comfortable with asking around > for permission ... well, they might not find it so uncomfortable to > privately ask a perceived leader for a wiki key. > > I presume the ConfirmAccount has a public queue that only Bureaucrat's > can resolve? > > That makes it public, but now we have a greater restriction on who can > confirm accounts. Right now, anyone with an account can confirm, but > under ConfirmAccount we'll have to designate and cultivate > Bureaucrats, yes? Assuming someone knows they could create one. I didn't know I could = create accounts until today. I assumed it was limited to wiki admin's. = Then again I never checked. Thanks Robert > > - - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://community.redhat.com .^\ http://TheOpenSourceWay.org > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP82Tb2ZIOBq0ODEERAsoBAJ41ZFmdA6L434yiAnwPPRDycp0jwwCfUE6y > WcaCCp2a6YyK4o6XGU46Vew=3D > =3DpGmu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============2270413316520991131==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 3 19:11:51 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1710178772922604803==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Enabling Extension:ConfirmAccount Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:17:46 -0700 Message-ID: <4FF36F8A.3060805@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FF36637.1080208@middleswarth.net --===============1710178772922604803== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/03/2012 02:37 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/03/2012 05:32 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > = >> That makes it public, but now we have a greater restriction on >> who can confirm accounts. Right now, anyone with an account can >> confirm, but under ConfirmAccount we'll have to designate and >> cultivate Bureaucrats, yes? > = > Assuming someone knows they could create one. I didn't know I > could create accounts until today. I assumed it was limited to > wiki admin's. Then again I never checked. Oops. I added the link "How to create a user account" to the left sidebar of the wiki, but it's really not advertized well at all. A clear advantage to ConfirmAccount is that it makes the normal account creation active, which is tied in to everything in a more visible way. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://community.redhat.com .^\ http://TheOpenSourceWay.org @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP82+K2ZIOBq0ODEERAj23AJ9b8dnI2Rh6vi2QBPlJ03KcLLv3TwCeI9Uo 62o3KmChGjGk5bIIu0Qlbq8=3D =3DbBjZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1710178772922604803==-- From dneary at redhat.com Wed Jul 4 04:19:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7376947773777393515==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Enabling Extension:ConfirmAccount Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 10:18:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4FF3FC72.5020906@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FF364DB.80409@redhat.com --===============7376947773777393515== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 07/03/2012 11:32 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> If that's the case, I'd like to suggest enabling the >> ConfirmAccount extension >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount - which can >> be configured to ask users for a username & email address, and >> their bio/reasons for wanting to have an account. The request is >> then added to a moderation queue, and anyone who is in the >> Bureaucrat role can approve the account creation request. > I'm not sure the current system fits in with your description, though > - - there is a moment where it could be public or private. Under the > current system, the best place to ask for a wiki account is IRC or the > arch@ mailing list, since you'll get a fast response and it's quite > public. You also need to know that asking in the IRC channel or on arch@ is the = suggested path to follow (not mentioned in the page I saw). It just said = "ask somene" for me. > I presume the ConfirmAccount has a public queue that only Bureaucrat's > can resolve? I believe that's how it works. > That makes it public, but now we have a greater restriction on who can > confirm accounts. Right now, anyone with an account can confirm, but > under ConfirmAccount we'll have to designate and cultivate > Bureaucrats, yes? One way we could handle that and spread the policing load would be to = create a different role (Moderator, say) and add everyone to that by = default, and modify the extension to check that role rather than = Bureaucrats for authorisations. This looks like a config option for = ConfirmAccount: = http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/C= onfirmAccount.config.php?view=3Dannotate = (line 106-110). Cheers, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============7376947773777393515==-- From dneary at redhat.com Wed Jul 4 05:22:14 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8031056751967395833==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Performance issue with wiki? Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 11:22:11 +0200 Message-ID: <4FF40B43.1060908@redhat.com> --===============8031056751967395833== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've noticed both yesterday and today that the wiki can take a long time = to respond to submissions of page creations or page edits. Are there any = known performance issues, or is it just me? Thanks, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============8031056751967395833==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 4 12:57:29 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3606871385028512674==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: The beta .repo file still points to the Federa 16 repo is there any one who can update the file? Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 12:57:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4FF475F7.4010001@middleswarth.net> --===============3606871385028512674== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://ovirt.org/releases/beta/ovirt-engine.repo still points to the = Fedora 16 repo. It might be useful to switch that to use $releasever so = it will work for the 3.2 beta as well Thanks Robert --===============3606871385028512674==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 5 07:25:06 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8749017752768539215==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: The beta .repo file still points to the Federa 16 repo is there any one who can update the file? Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 07:25:04 -0400 Message-ID: <1341487504.2865.1.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FF475F7.4010001@middleswarth.net --===============8749017752768539215== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 12:57 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > http://ovirt.org/releases/beta/ovirt-engine.repo still points to the = > Fedora 16 repo. It might be useful to switch that to use $releasever so = > it will work for the 3.2 beta as well The file has been updated to $releasever. As a side note, installing ovirt-release-2-1.noarch.rpm should setup the right repo for you. Mike > = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============8749017752768539215==-- From fabiand at redhat.com Thu Jul 5 07:49:05 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1512232999756655900==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Fabian Deutsch To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 13:48:58 +0200 Message-ID: <1341488938.4948.6.camel@fdeutsch-laptop.local> --===============1512232999756655900== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D-h5gqC9RUSlIsOo4Sxuq9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the public git url to a repo.=3D20 E.g.: ovirt-node-tests Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3D3Dovirt-node-tests.git Names http and private git url: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transport is faster than http. 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Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 13:27:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4FF5CE81.6040709@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1341487504.2865.1.camel@mburns-laptop --===============7003428706095676326== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/05/2012 07:25 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 12:57 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> http://ovirt.org/releases/beta/ovirt-engine.repo still points to the >> Fedora 16 repo. It might be useful to switch that to use $releasever so >> it will work for the 3.2 beta as well > The file has been updated to $releasever. As a side note, installing > ovirt-release-2-1.noarch.rpm should setup the right repo for you. The only bad thing about ovirt-release-2-1.noarch.rpm is the repo's are = not enabled by default. So pulling the repo is easier then installing = the package. Thanks Robert > > Mike > >> Thanks >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > --===============7003428706095676326==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 5 13:31:07 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2185691424791081106==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: The beta .repo file still points to the Federa 16 repo is there any one who can update the file? Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 13:31:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1341509465.10141.12.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FF5CE81.6040709@middleswarth.net --===============2185691424791081106== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 13:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/05/2012 07:25 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-07-04 at 12:57 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >> http://ovirt.org/releases/beta/ovirt-engine.repo still points to the > >> Fedora 16 repo. It might be useful to switch that to use $releasever = so > >> it will work for the 3.2 beta as well > > The file has been updated to $releasever. As a side note, installing > > ovirt-release-2-1.noarch.rpm should setup the right repo for you. > The only bad thing about ovirt-release-2-1.noarch.rpm is the repo's are = > not enabled by default. So pulling the repo is easier then installing = > the package. Maybe we need an ovirt-repo command included in the ovirt-release repo that would show you which ovirt repos are enabled and which are disabled as well as allowing you to update them with the single command. Thoughts? Mike > = > Thanks > Robert > > > > Mike > > > >> Thanks > >> Robert > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============2185691424791081106==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 5 18:05:02 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5037938465155570397==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: What is it going to take to get EL6 builds? Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: <4FF60F8C.3010004@middleswarth.net> --===============5037938465155570397== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know there are a few things that don't work under oVirt on EL6 but = there are unofficial builds out there and they seem to work pretty well. What is the major stopper from getting EL6 builds? Is it just a mater = of getting patches submitted for building the spec files? Is there a = need for EL 6 based slaves? Is there a concern about the features that = don't work like Live Migration? I guess a good starting point is to build a todo list of what has to be = done. Thanks Robert --===============5037938465155570397==-- From treydock at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 19:02:23 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3144164403823486636==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Trey Dockendorf To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] What is it going to take to get EL6 builds? Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:02:21 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 4FF60F8C.3010004@middleswarth.net --===============3144164403823486636== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jul 5, 2012 5:05 PM, "Robert Middleswarth" wrote: > > I know there are a few things that don't work under oVirt on EL6 but there are unofficial builds out there and they seem to work pretty well. > > What is the major stopper from getting EL6 builds? Is it just a mater of getting patches submitted for building the spec files? Is there a need for EL 6 based slaves? Is there a concern about the features that don't work like Live Migration? > > I guess a good starting point is to build a todo list of what has to be done. > > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users Based on personal attempts to rebuild ovirt for EL6 the biggest hurdle I ran into is build dependencies. Thanks to the help of Dreyou Im using the work around of a binary download of Maven and packages from jpackage repo. Ive built latest vdsm without much issue and am setting up my mock environment to rebuild the latest ovirt-engine release. Before Dreyou's repo I spent considerable time attempting to rebuild Fedora SRPMs in EL6 to meet all dependencies but there were numerous circular dependency issues building maven2 in EL6. This was before 3.1 and have not attempted a full dependency build since. Id be interested in knowing what other challenges exist for an EL6 release and would like to help where I can. - Trey --===============3144164403823486636== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" PHA+PGJyPgpPbiBKdWwgNSwgMjAxMiA1OjA1IFBNLCAmcXVvdDtSb2JlcnQgTWlkZGxlc3dhcnRo JnF1b3Q7ICZsdDs8YSBocmVmPSJtYWlsdG86cm9iZXJ0QG1pZGRsZXN3YXJ0aC5uZXQiPnJvYmVy dEBtaWRkbGVzd2FydGgubmV0PC9hPiZndDsgd3JvdGU6PGJyPgomZ3Q7PGJyPgomZ3Q7IEkga25v dyB0aGVyZSBhcmUgYSBmZXcgdGhpbmdzIHRoYXQgZG9uJiMzOTt0IHdvcmsgdW5kZXIgb1ZpcnQg b24gRUw2IGJ1dCB0aGVyZSBhcmUgdW5vZmZpY2lhbCBidWlsZHMgb3V0IHRoZXJlIGFuZCB0aGV5 IHNlZW0gdG8gd29yayBwcmV0dHkgd2VsbC48YnI+CiZndDs8YnI+CiZndDsgV2hhdCBpcyB0aGUg bWFqb3Igc3RvcHBlciBmcm9tIGdldHRpbmcgRUw2IGJ1aWxkcz8goElzIGl0IGp1c3QgYSBtYXRl ciBvZiBnZXR0aW5nIHBhdGNoZXMgc3VibWl0dGVkIGZvciBidWlsZGluZyB0aGUgc3BlYyBmaWxl cz8goElzIHRoZXJlIGEgbmVlZCBmb3IgRUwgNiBiYXNlZCBzbGF2ZXM/IKBJcyB0aGVyZSBhIGNv bmNlcm4gYWJvdXQgdGhlIGZlYXR1cmVzIHRoYXQgZG9uJiMzOTt0IHdvcmsgbGlrZSBMaXZlIE1p Z3JhdGlvbj88YnI+CgomZ3Q7PGJyPgomZ3Q7IEkgZ3Vlc3MgYSBnb29kIHN0YXJ0aW5nIHBvaW50 IGlzIHRvIGJ1aWxkIGEgdG9kbyBsaXN0IG9mIHdoYXQgaGFzIHRvIGJlIGRvbmUuPGJyPgomZ3Q7 PGJyPgomZ3Q7IFRoYW5rczxicj4KJmd0OyBSb2JlcnQ8YnI+CiZndDsgX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX188YnI+CiZndDsgVXNlcnMgbWFpbGluZyBs aXN0PGJyPgomZ3Q7IDxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzpVc2Vyc0BvdmlydC5vcmciPlVzZXJzQG92aXJ0 Lm9yZzwvYT48YnI+CiZndDsgPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLm92aXJ0Lm9yZy9tYWlsbWFu L2xpc3RpbmZvL3VzZXJzIj5odHRwOi8vbGlzdHMub3ZpcnQub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8v dXNlcnM8L2E+PC9wPgo8cD5CYXNlZCBvbiBwZXJzb25hbCBhdHRlbXB0cyB0byByZWJ1aWxkIG92 aXJ0IGZvciBFTDYgdGhlIGJpZ2dlc3QgaHVyZGxlIEkgcmFuIGludG8gaXMgYnVpbGQgZGVwZW5k ZW5jaWVzLjwvcD4KPHA+VGhhbmtzIHRvIHRoZSBoZWxwIG9mIERyZXlvdSBJbSB1c2luZyB0aGUg d29yayBhcm91bmQgb2YgYSBiaW5hcnkgZG93bmxvYWQgb2YgTWF2ZW4gYW5kIHBhY2thZ2VzIGZy b20ganBhY2thZ2UgcmVwby6gIEl2ZSBidWlsdCBsYXRlc3QgdmRzbSB3aXRob3V0IG11Y2ggaXNz dWUgYW5kIGFtIHNldHRpbmcgdXAgbXkgbW9jayBlbnZpcm9ubWVudCB0byByZWJ1aWxkIHRoZSBs YXRlc3Qgb3ZpcnQtZW5naW5lIHJlbGVhc2UuPC9wPgoKPHA+QmVmb3JlIERyZXlvdSYjMzk7cyBy ZXBvIEkgc3BlbnQgY29uc2lkZXJhYmxlIHRpbWUgYXR0ZW1wdGluZyB0byByZWJ1aWxkIEZlZG9y YSBTUlBNcyBpbiBFTDYgdG8gbWVldCBhbGwgZGVwZW5kZW5jaWVzIGJ1dCB0aGVyZSB3ZXJlIG51 bWVyb3VzIGNpcmN1bGFyIGRlcGVuZGVuY3kgaXNzdWVzIGJ1aWxkaW5nIG1hdmVuMiBpbiBFTDYu oCBUaGlzIHdhcyBiZWZvcmUgMy4xIGFuZCBoYXZlIG5vdCBhdHRlbXB0ZWQgYSBmdWxsIGRlcGVu ZGVuY3kgYnVpbGQgc2luY2UuPC9wPgoKPHA+SWQgYmUgaW50ZXJlc3RlZCBpbiBrbm93aW5nIHdo YXQgb3RoZXIgY2hhbGxlbmdlcyBleGlzdCBmb3IgYW4gRUw2IHJlbGVhc2UgYW5kIHdvdWxkIGxp a2UgdG8gaGVscCB3aGVyZSBJIGNhbi48L3A+CjxwPi0gVHJleTwvcD4K --===============3144164403823486636==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 5 19:08:05 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5279480309266207752==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] What is it going to take to get EL6 builds? Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2012 19:08:02 -0400 Message-ID: <4FF61E52.40601@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: CAN0oX1YK7qpedsHwDd20DCXQzz7OYeiHU02p3qqOqw=+cMW8wg@mail.gmail.com --===============5279480309266207752== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080002000504070404010302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/05/2012 07:02 PM, Trey Dockendorf wrote: > > > On Jul 5, 2012 5:05 PM, "Robert Middleswarth" > wrote: > > > > I know there are a few things that don't work under oVirt on EL6 but = > there are unofficial builds out there and they seem to work pretty well. > > > > What is the major stopper from getting EL6 builds? Is it just a = > mater of getting patches submitted for building the spec files? Is = > there a need for EL 6 based slaves? Is there a concern about the = > features that don't work like Live Migration? > > > > I guess a good starting point is to build a todo list of what has to = > be done. > > > > Thanks > > Robert > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > Based on personal attempts to rebuild ovirt for EL6 the biggest hurdle = > I ran into is build dependencies. > > Thanks to the help of Dreyou Im using the work around of a binary = > download of Maven and packages from jpackage repo. Ive built latest = > vdsm without much issue and am setting up my mock environment to = > rebuild the latest ovirt-engine release. > I bet that is why I am having so much trouble. I installed Maven but am = not using jpackage repo for the rest of Java Thanks Robert > > Before Dreyou's repo I spent considerable time attempting to rebuild = > Fedora SRPMs in EL6 to meet all dependencies but there were numerous = > circular dependency issues building maven2 in EL6. This was before = > 3.1 and have not attempted a full dependency build since. > > Id be interested in knowing what other challenges exist for an EL6 = > release and would like to help where I can. > > - Trey > --------------080002000504070404010302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 07/05/2012 07:02 PM, Trey Dockendorf wrote:


On Jul 5, 2012 5:05 PM, "Robert Middleswarth" <robert(a)middleswarth.net> wrote:
>
> I know there are a few things that don't work under oVirt on EL6 but there are unofficial builds out there and they seem to work pretty well.
>
> What is the major stopper from getting EL6 builds?  Is it just a mater of getting patches submitted for building the spec files?  Is there a need for EL 6 based slaves?  Is there a concern about the features that don't work like Live Migration?
>
> I guess a good starting point is to build a todo list of what has to be done.
>
> Thanks
> Robert
> _______________________________________________
> Users mailing list
> = Users(a)ovirt.org
> http://lis= ts.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

Based on personal attempts to rebuild ovirt for EL6 the biggest hurdle I ran into is build dependencies.

Thanks to the help of Dreyou Im using the work around of a binary download of Maven and packages from jpackage repo.  Ive built latest vdsm without much issue and am setting up my mock environment to rebuild the latest ovirt-engine release.

I bet that is why I am having so much trouble.  I installed Maven but am not using jpackage repo for the rest of Java

Thanks
Robert

Before Dreyou's repo I spent considerable time attempting to rebuild Fedora SRPMs in EL6 to meet all dependencies but there were numerous circular dependency issues building maven2 in EL6.  This was before 3.1 and have not attempted a full dependency build since.

Id be interested in knowing what other challenges exist for an EL6 release and would like to help where I can.

- Trey



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08:11:32 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4471348772140093003==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 14790 - Fixed! Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 08:11:31 -0400 Message-ID: <800760030.3311341576691082.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188> --===============4471348772140093003== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/14790/ Build Number: 14790 Build Status: Fixed Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #14789 Changes for Build #14790 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building on master No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson2370447455261905470.sh + rm index.html + rm 'gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-06 08:11:30-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000000bea860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:11:26 GMT X-XRDS-Location: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/OpenID.XRDS Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html;charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Length: 3213 Connection: keep-alive ---response end--- 200 OK Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse. Length: 3213 (3.1K) [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D 0K ... 100% 111M=3D= 0s 2012-07-06 08:11:30 (111 MB/s) - =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D saved [3213/3= 213] + wget --timeout 60 -t 3 -v -d 'gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-06 08:11:30-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x00000000018498e0 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET /gitweb?p=3Dtest.git HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:11:26 GMT Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 ---response end--- 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D 0K .......... ..... 140M=3D0s Closed fd 3 2012-07-06 08:11:31 (140 MB/s) - =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D save= d [16148] + a=3Dshortlog Email was triggered for: Success Email was triggered for: Fixed Trigger Success was overridden by another trigger and will not send an emai= l. Sending email for trigger: Fixed --===============4471348772140093003==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Fri Jul 6 08:41:30 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7345214315546785868==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 14793 - Failure! Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 08:41:26 -0400 Message-ID: <1299130337.3341341578487290.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188> --===============7345214315546785868== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/14793/ Build Number: 14793 Build Status: Failure Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #14793 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building on master ERROR: No space left on device java.io.IOException: No space left on device at java.io.FileOutputStream.writeBytes(Native Method) at java.io.FileOutputStream.write(FileOutputStream.java:297) at sun.nio.cs.StreamEncoder.writeBytes(StreamEncoder.java:220) at sun.nio.cs.StreamEncoder.implClose(StreamEncoder.java:315) at sun.nio.cs.StreamEncoder.close(StreamEncoder.java:148) at java.io.OutputStreamWriter.close(OutputStreamWriter.java:233) at hudson.scm.SCM.createEmptyChangeLog(SCM.java:576) at hudson.scm.NullSCM.checkout(NullSCM.java:54) at hudson.model.AbstractProject.checkout(AbstractProject.java:1195) at hudson.model.AbstractBuild$AbstractRunner.checkout(AbstractBuild.java:5= 73) at hudson.model.AbstractBuild$AbstractRunner.run(AbstractBuild.java:462) at hudson.model.Run.run(Run.java:1404) at hudson.model.FreeStyleBuild.run(FreeStyleBuild.java:46) at hudson.model.ResourceController.execute(ResourceController.java:88) at hudson.model.Executor.run(Executor.java:238) Email was triggered for: Failure Sending email for trigger: Failure --===============7345214315546785868==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Fri Jul 6 08:51:31 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8924474665819076031==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 14794 - Fixed! Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 08:51:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1873800061.3361341579088160.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188> In-Reply-To: 1299130337.3341341578487290.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188 --===============8924474665819076031== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/14794/ Build Number: 14794 Build Status: Fixed Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #14793 Changes for Build #14794 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building on master No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson2133430090805038804.sh + rm index.html + rm 'gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-06 08:51:27-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000001b6d860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:51:23 GMT X-XRDS-Location: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/OpenID.XRDS Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html;charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Length: 3213 Connection: keep-alive ---response end--- 200 OK Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse. Length: 3213 (3.1K) [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D 0K ... 100% 127M=3D= 0s 2012-07-06 08:51:27 (127 MB/s) - =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D saved [3213/3= 213] + wget --timeout 60 -t 3 -v -d 'gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-06 08:51:27-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x00000000017b58e0 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET /gitweb?p=3Dtest.git HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 12:51:23 GMT Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 ---response end--- 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D 0K .......... ..... 129M=3D0s Closed fd 3 2012-07-06 08:51:28 (129 MB/s) - =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D save= d [16148] + a=3Dshortlog Email was triggered for: Success Email was triggered for: Fixed Trigger Success was overridden by another trigger and will not send an emai= l. Sending email for trigger: Fixed --===============8924474665819076031==-- From iheim at redhat.com Fri Jul 6 08:57:43 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4722086663648261363==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: What is it going to take to get EL6 builds? Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 15:57:39 +0300 Message-ID: <4FF6E0C3.2080109@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FF60F8C.3010004@middleswarth.net --===============4722086663648261363== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/06/2012 01:05 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > I know there are a few things that don't work under oVirt on EL6 but > there are unofficial builds out there and they seem to work pretty well. > > What is the major stopper from getting EL6 builds? Is it just a mater > of getting patches submitted for building the spec files? Is there a > need for EL 6 based slaves? Is there a concern about the features that > don't work like Live Migration? > > I guess a good starting point is to build a todo list of what has to be > done. just time. i see both el6 and debian distro's as next on the list, but current = focus is on getting 3.1 out, then additional distros. help on pushing other distros is welcome of course. --===============4722086663648261363==-- From iheim at redhat.com Fri Jul 6 11:10:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8498577898548246407==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 18:10:23 +0300 Message-ID: <4FF6FFDF.2030302@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341488938.4948.6.camel@fdeutsch-laptop.local --===============8498577898548246407== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > Hey, > > I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the public > git url to a repo. > > E.g.: ovirt-node-tests > Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.git > > Names http and private git url: > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git > ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git > > Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. > It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transport > is faster than http. > its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. find me how to configure it and i will... > Greetings > fabian > > > > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > --===============8498577898548246407==-- From mburns at redhat.com Fri Jul 6 14:00:20 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7514802622575826205==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 14:00:14 -0400 Message-ID: <1341597614.9332.5.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FF6FFDF.2030302@redhat.com --===============7514802622575826205== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the public > > git url to a repo. > > > > E.g.: ovirt-node-tests > > Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.git > > > > Names http and private git url: > > http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git > > ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git > > > > Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. > > It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transport > > is faster than http. > > > = > its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. > find me how to configure it and i will... In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: our @git_base_url_list =3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); Mike > = > > Greetings > > fabian > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============7514802622575826205==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Sun Jul 8 16:53:32 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4105543342845345411==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 15128 - Failure! Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 16:53:25 -0400 Message-ID: <744642206.41341780806013.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188> --===============4105543342845345411== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/15128/ Build Number: 15128 Build Status: Failure Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #15128 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building on master No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson7268591298418395468.sh + rm index.html + rm 'gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-08 16:50:22-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x000000000226c860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Retrying. --2012-07-08 16:51:23-- (try: 2) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Found gerrit.ovirt.org in host_name_addresses_map (0x226c860) Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x000000000226c860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Retrying. --2012-07-08 16:52:25-- (try: 3) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Found gerrit.ovirt.org in host_name_addresses_map (0x226c860) Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x000000000226c860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Giving up. Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Email was triggered for: Failure Sending email for trigger: Failure --===============4105543342845345411==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Sun Jul 8 17:00:30 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5840565916631580838==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 15129 - Fixed! Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 17:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: <1002125042.51341781227041.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188> In-Reply-To: 744642206.41341780806013.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188 --===============5840565916631580838== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/15129/ Build Number: 15129 Build Status: Fixed Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #15128 Changes for Build #15129 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building on master No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson3232421264504875098.sh + rm 'index.html*' rm: cannot remove `index.html*': No such file or directory + /bin/true + rm 'gitweb*' rm: cannot remove `gitweb*': No such file or directory + /bin/true + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-08 17:00:24-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x00000000009f4860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 21:00:20 GMT X-XRDS-Location: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/OpenID.XRDS Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html;charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Length: 3213 Connection: keep-alive ---response end--- 200 OK Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse. Length: 3213 (3.1K) [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D 0K ... 100% 127M=3D= 0s 2012-07-08 17:00:24 (127 MB/s) - =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D saved [3213/3= 213] + wget --timeout 60 -t 3 -v -d 'gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-08 17:00:24-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x00000000013708e0 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET /gitweb?p=3Dtest.git HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 21:00:20 GMT Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 ---response end--- 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D 0K .......... ..... 12.8M=3D0.00= 1s Closed fd 3 2012-07-08 17:00:25 (12.8 MB/s) - =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D sav= ed [16148] + a=3Dshortlog Email was triggered for: Success Email was triggered for: Fixed Trigger Success was overridden by another trigger and will not send an emai= l. Sending email for trigger: Fixed --===============5840565916631580838==-- From iheim at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 00:55:24 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2675084696326485219==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 07:55:21 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFA6439.9080002@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341597614.9332.5.camel@mburns-laptop --===============2675084696326485219== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/06/2012 09:00 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: >>> Hey, >>> >>> I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the public >>> git url to a repo. >>> >>> E.g.: ovirt-node-tests >>> Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.git >>> >>> Names http and private git url: >>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git >>> ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git >>> >>> Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. >>> It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transport >>> is faster than http. >>> >> >> its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. >> find me how to configure it and i will... > > In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: > our @git_base_url_list =3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org > ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); I wish it was that easy... gerrit passes its own (for example, you will get the ssh link from = gitweb if you are logged in to gerrit, etc.). and it manipulates git_base_url_list accordingly. http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-httpd/src/main/java/co= m/google/gerrit/httpd/gitweb/GitWebServlet.java > > Mike > >> >>> Greetings >>> fabian >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Infra mailing list >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > --===============2675084696326485219==-- From mburns at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 06:44:03 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7618486096794894330==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 06:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: <1341830642.26430.7.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFA6439.9080002@redhat.com --===============7618486096794894330== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 07:55 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 07/06/2012 09:00 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >> On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > >>> Hey, > >>> > >>> I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the public > >>> git url to a repo. > >>> > >>> E.g.: ovirt-node-tests > >>> Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.git > >>> > >>> Names http and private git url: > >>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git > >>> ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git > >>> > >>> Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. > >>> It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transport > >>> is faster than http. > >>> > >> > >> its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. > >> find me how to configure it and i will... > > > > In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: > > our @git_base_url_list =3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org > > ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); > = > I wish it was that easy... > gerrit passes its own (for example, you will get the ssh link from = > gitweb if you are logged in to gerrit, etc.). > and it manipulates git_base_url_list accordingly. > = > http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-httpd/src/main/java/= com/google/gerrit/httpd/gitweb/GitWebServlet.java Ahh, ok, I have my gitweb config independent of gerrit. Looks like you need GIT_ANONYMOUS_READ set and a git daemon url set. Looking at [1], i think you need download.scheme=3Danon_git and gerrit.canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://gerrit.ovirt.org set in etc/gerrit.conf. Mike https://review.typo3.org/Documentation/config-gerrit.html > = > = > > > > Mike > > > >> > >>> Greetings > >>> fabian > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Infra mailing list > >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > > > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============7618486096794894330==-- From dougsland at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 09:29:43 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0756017424930388771==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas Landgraf To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: jenkins slaves Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFAEAD1.8040305@redhat.com> --===============0756017424930388771== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, My name is Douglas Schilling Landgraf, I work for Red Hat to = provide improvements for VDSM/oVirt. I have noticed that jenkins vdsm_unit_tests project failed because of a = package dependency. If possible, can I have access to jenkins slaves to help maintain this = VDSM test project? Thanks! -- = Cheers Douglas --===============0756017424930388771==-- From dneary at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 09:52:32 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8132545399024525047==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Performance issue with wiki? Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:52:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFAE21E.6080408@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FF40B43.1060908@redhat.com --===============8132545399024525047== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 07/04/2012 11:22 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > I've noticed both yesterday and today that the wiki can take a long time > to respond to submissions of page creations or page edits. Are there any > known performance issues, or is it just me? Given the reaction, can I assume that this is just me, then? Or are = others experiencing the same slow response to page submission? Thanks, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============8132545399024525047==-- From jottinge at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 10:15:28 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0748304771381747563==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Joseph B. Ottinger To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Performance issue with wiki? Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:15:26 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFAE77E.7080300@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFAE21E.6080408@redhat.com --===============0748304771381747563== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon 09 Jul 2012 09:52:30 AM EDT, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > On 07/04/2012 11:22 AM, Dave Neary wrote: >> I've noticed both yesterday and today that the wiki can take a long time >> to respond to submissions of page creations or page edits. Are there any >> known performance issues, or is it just me? > > Given the reaction, can I assume that this is just me, then? Or are > others experiencing the same slow response to page submission? > > Thanks, > Dave. > Maybe it's slow email too! (But while the wiki isn't blazing fast, I = haven't seen a blazing slowness either.) -- It's not my fault that I can't draw the human posterior with a mouse. --===============0748304771381747563==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Mon Jul 9 10:53:30 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1742968805504627289==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 15236 - Failure! Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 10:53:27 -0400 Message-ID: <942856396.91341845607172.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188> --===============1742968805504627289== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/15236/ Build Number: 15236 Build Status: Failure Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #15236 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building remotely on rhel_62_slave_02 No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson1258852477036372817.sh + rm index.html + rm 'gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-09 10:49:30-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000002802860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Retrying. --2012-07-09 10:50:31-- (try: 2) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Found gerrit.ovirt.org in host_name_addresses_map (0x2802860) Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000002802860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Retrying. --2012-07-09 10:51:34-- (try: 3) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Found gerrit.ovirt.org in host_name_addresses_map (0x2802860) Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000002802860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Giving up. Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Email was triggered for: Failure Sending email for trigger: Failure --===============1742968805504627289==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Mon Jul 9 11:00:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6417394748287415669==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 15237 - Fixed! Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 11:00:24 -0400 Message-ID: <1255062679.101341846024560.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188> In-Reply-To: 942856396.91341845607172.JavaMail.jenkins@ip-10-114-123-188 --===============6417394748287415669== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/15237/ Build Number: 15237 Build Status: Fixed Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #15236 Changes for Build #15237 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building remotely on rhel_62_slave_02 No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson1387653233566497575.sh + rm 'index.html*' rm: cannot remove `index.html*': No such file or directory + /bin/true + rm 'gitweb*' rm: cannot remove `gitweb*': No such file or directory + /bin/true + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-09 10:59:30-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x00000000026b2860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:00:18 GMT X-XRDS-Location: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/OpenID.XRDS Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html;charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Length: 3213 Connection: keep-alive ---response end--- 200 OK Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse. Length: 3213 (3.1K) [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D 0K ... 100% 138M=3D= 0s 2012-07-09 10:59:30 (138 MB/s) - =E2=80=9Cindex.html=E2=80=9D saved [3213/3= 213] + wget --timeout 60 -t 3 -v -d 'gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-09 10:59:30-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dtest.git Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000001d918e0 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET /gitweb?p=3Dtest.git HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... = ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:00:18 GMT Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 ---response end--- 200 OK Length: unspecified [text/html] Saving to: =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D 0K .......... ..... 931K=3D0.02s Closed fd 3 2012-07-09 10:59:31 (931 KB/s) - =E2=80=9Cgitweb?p=3Dtest.git=E2=80=9D save= d [16148] + a=3Dshortlog Email was triggered for: Success Email was triggered for: Fixed Trigger Success was overridden by another trigger and will not send an emai= l. Sending email for trigger: Fixed --===============6417394748287415669==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 11:11:25 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6038473130532287130==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Performance issue with wiki? Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 08:11:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFAF49A.8030602@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFAE77E.7080300@redhat.com --===============6038473130532287130== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/09/2012 07:15 AM, Joseph B. Ottinger wrote: > On Mon 09 Jul 2012 09:52:30 AM EDT, Dave Neary wrote: >> Hi, >> = >> On 07/04/2012 11:22 AM, Dave Neary wrote: >>> I've noticed both yesterday and today that the wiki can take a >>> long time to respond to submissions of page creations or page >>> edits. Are there any known performance issues, or is it just >>> me? >> = >> Given the reaction, can I assume that this is just me, then? Or >> are others experiencing the same slow response to page >> submission? >> = >> Thanks, Dave. >> = > = > Maybe it's slow email too! (But while the wiki isn't blazing fast, > I haven't seen a blazing slowness either.) It's potentially constrained at times, it's a kitchen-sink server so lots can ... distract it. We'll see if moving off the current server helps. (Yes, I'm working on a plan for all that.) - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP+vSa2ZIOBq0ODEERArJrAJwM6+/mN6yYR+CLhg26mvfKYP+acwCfcqhs +fDkkDnP640HT7GPSIzLDVM=3D =3DYH8G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============6038473130532287130==-- From iheim at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 15:07:14 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6026509155219247150==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 22:07:11 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFB2BDF.9070004@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341830642.26430.7.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============6026509155219247150== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/09/2012 01:44 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 07:55 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 07/06/2012 09:00 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >>> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >>>> On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: >>>>> Hey, >>>>> >>>>> I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the public >>>>> git url to a repo. >>>>> >>>>> E.g.: ovirt-node-tests >>>>> Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.git >>>>> >>>>> Names http and private git url: >>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git >>>>> ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git >>>>> >>>>> Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. >>>>> It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transport >>>>> is faster than http. >>>>> >>>> >>>> its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. >>>> find me how to configure it and i will... >>> >>> In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: >>> our @git_base_url_list =3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org >>> ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); >> >> I wish it was that easy... >> gerrit passes its own (for example, you will get the ssh link from >> gitweb if you are logged in to gerrit, etc.). >> and it manipulates git_base_url_list accordingly. >> >> http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-httpd/src/main/java= /com/google/gerrit/httpd/gitweb/GitWebServlet.java > > Ahh, ok, I have my gitweb config independent of gerrit. Looks like you > need GIT_ANONYMOUS_READ set and a git daemon url set. Looking at [1], i > think you need download.scheme=3Danon_git and > gerrit.canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://gerrit.ovirt.org set in etc/gerrit.conf. wouldn't changing canonicalGitUrl will cause the default one to stop = being web based for links? today we have this as the default: canonicalWebUrl =3D http://gerrit.ovirt.org > > Mike > > https://review.typo3.org/Documentation/config-gerrit.html > > >> >> >>> >>> Mike >>> >>>> >>>>> Greetings >>>>> fabian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Infra mailing list >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > --===============6026509155219247150==-- From mburns at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 15:13:48 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7478643568561105218==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:13:47 -0400 Message-ID: <1341861227.3071.1.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FFB2BDF.9070004@redhat.com --===============7478643568561105218== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 22:07 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 07/09/2012 01:44 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 07:55 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >> On 07/06/2012 09:00 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > >>> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >>>> On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > >>>>> Hey, > >>>>> > >>>>> I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the publ= ic > >>>>> git url to a repo. > >>>>> > >>>>> E.g.: ovirt-node-tests > >>>>> Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.git > >>>>> > >>>>> Names http and private git url: > >>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git > >>>>> ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git > >>>>> > >>>>> Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. > >>>>> It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transp= ort > >>>>> is faster than http. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. > >>>> find me how to configure it and i will... > >>> > >>> In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: > >>> our @git_base_url_list =3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org > >>> ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); > >> > >> I wish it was that easy... > >> gerrit passes its own (for example, you will get the ssh link from > >> gitweb if you are logged in to gerrit, etc.). > >> and it manipulates git_base_url_list accordingly. > >> > >> http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-httpd/src/main/ja= va/com/google/gerrit/httpd/gitweb/GitWebServlet.java > > > > Ahh, ok, I have my gitweb config independent of gerrit. Looks like you > > need GIT_ANONYMOUS_READ set and a git daemon url set. Looking at [1], i > > think you need download.scheme=3Danon_git and > > gerrit.canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://gerrit.ovirt.org set in etc/gerrit.conf. > = > wouldn't changing canonicalGitUrl will cause the default one to stop = > being web based for links? > today we have this as the default: > canonicalWebUrl =3D http://gerrit.ovirt.org Should be 2 separate entries. = canonicalWebUrl=3Dhttp://... canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://... > = > > > > Mike > > > > https://review.typo3.org/Documentation/config-gerrit.html > > > > > >> > >> > >>> > >>> Mike > >>> > >>>> > >>>>> Greetings > >>>>> fabian > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Infra mailing list > >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Infra mailing list > >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > > > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============7478643568561105218==-- From iheim at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 15:25:49 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2100685697762388853==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 22:25:46 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFB303A.3080304@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341861227.3071.1.camel@mburns-laptop --===============2100685697762388853== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/09/2012 10:13 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 22:07 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 07/09/2012 01:44 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >>> On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 07:55 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >>>> On 07/06/2012 09:00 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >>>>>> On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: >>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the publ= ic >>>>>>> git url to a repo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> E.g.: ovirt-node-tests >>>>>>> Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.git >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Names http and private git url: >>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git >>>>>>> ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missing. >>>>>>> It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git transp= ort >>>>>>> is faster than http. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. >>>>>> find me how to configure it and i will... >>>>> >>>>> In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: >>>>> our @git_base_url_list =3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org >>>>> ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); >>>> >>>> I wish it was that easy... >>>> gerrit passes its own (for example, you will get the ssh link from >>>> gitweb if you are logged in to gerrit, etc.). >>>> and it manipulates git_base_url_list accordingly. >>>> >>>> http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-httpd/src/main/ja= va/com/google/gerrit/httpd/gitweb/GitWebServlet.java >>> >>> Ahh, ok, I have my gitweb config independent of gerrit. Looks like you >>> need GIT_ANONYMOUS_READ set and a git daemon url set. Looking at [1], i >>> think you need download.scheme=3Danon_git and >>> gerrit.canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://gerrit.ovirt.org set in etc/gerrit.conf. >> >> wouldn't changing canonicalGitUrl will cause the default one to stop >> being web based for links? >> today we have this as the default: >> canonicalWebUrl =3D http://gerrit.ovirt.org > > Should be 2 separate entries. > > canonicalWebUrl=3Dhttp://... > canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://... indeed. done - check it out... --===============2100685697762388853==-- From mburns at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 15:27:39 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4090157770425005665==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:27:37 -0400 Message-ID: <1341862057.3071.2.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FFB303A.3080304@redhat.com --===============4090157770425005665== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 22:25 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 07/09/2012 10:13 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 22:07 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >> On 07/09/2012 01:44 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 07:55 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >>>> On 07/06/2012 09:00 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >>>>>> On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > >>>>>>> Hey, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the pu= blic > >>>>>>> git url to a repo. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> E.g.: ovirt-node-tests > >>>>>>> Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3Dovirt-node-tests.= git > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Names http and private git url: > >>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git > >>>>>>> ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missi= ng. > >>>>>>> It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git tran= sport > >>>>>>> is faster than http. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. > >>>>>> find me how to configure it and i will... > >>>>> > >>>>> In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: > >>>>> our @git_base_url_list =3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org > >>>>> ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); > >>>> > >>>> I wish it was that easy... > >>>> gerrit passes its own (for example, you will get the ssh link from > >>>> gitweb if you are logged in to gerrit, etc.). > >>>> and it manipulates git_base_url_list accordingly. > >>>> > >>>> http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-httpd/src/main/= java/com/google/gerrit/httpd/gitweb/GitWebServlet.java > >>> > >>> Ahh, ok, I have my gitweb config independent of gerrit. Looks like y= ou > >>> need GIT_ANONYMOUS_READ set and a git daemon url set. Looking at [1]= , i > >>> think you need download.scheme=3Danon_git and > >>> gerrit.canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://gerrit.ovirt.org set in etc/gerrit.con= f. > >> > >> wouldn't changing canonicalGitUrl will cause the default one to stop > >> being web based for links? > >> today we have this as the default: > >> canonicalWebUrl =3D http://gerrit.ovirt.org > > > > Should be 2 separate entries. > > > > canonicalWebUrl=3Dhttp://... > > canonicalGitUrl=3Dgit://... > = > indeed. > done - check it out... Looks good to me. ;-) > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============4090157770425005665==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 9 18:49:55 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4662753877840310008==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [RFC] moving services to OpenShift Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 15:49:52 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFB6010.90501@redhat.com> --===============4662753877840310008== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically: * WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2] In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, when/if they become possible/available. The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts of the infrastructure. What are some other reasons this is a good idea? What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea? We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on this mailing list. - - Karsten [1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP+2AQ2ZIOBq0ODEERAso9AKDV+NrEJjWFNd7WEuGDBLnUHR9mGQCeIVwY oJfX35xtJZdb9nTgnusZfAY=3D =3DeCES -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4662753877840310008==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Mon Jul 9 21:10:53 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8974429317883164651==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [RFC] moving services to OpenShift Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 21:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFB8118.1060206@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFB6010.90501@redhat.com --===============8974429317883164651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/09/2012 06:49 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of > moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically: > > * WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] > * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2] I have never used OpenShift so I have no idea how well these will run. > > In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, > when/if they become possible/available. > > The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the > server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share > responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are > maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it > updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull > requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts > of the infrastructure. I manage many of my internal system using git. It works well as long as = you aren't updating the system from other sources at the same time. > > What are some other reasons this is a good idea? The git part is very powerful. It makes management task much easier. > > What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea? One possible issue is cost. The other question is what limits are there = to using the wordpress or mediawiki this way. Since I have never used = the platform not sure what these limits are. > > We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on > this mailing list. > > - - Karsten > > [1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example > [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP+2AQ2ZIOBq0ODEERAso9AKDV+NrEJjWFNd7WEuGDBLnUHR9mGQCeIVwY > oJfX35xtJZdb9nTgnusZfAY=3D > =3DeCES > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============8974429317883164651==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 00:35:43 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8862645982452340103==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Trust seed Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 21:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFBB11B.1080002@redhat.com> --===============8862645982452340103== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with reasoning included.) We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By a "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - once created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how to perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, some supporting points: * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop and other locations. * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming my wiki and GPG accounts are not compromised, I have commit and email history to show involvement.) * Trust in Red Hat can extend to me, based on my 10+ years employment, etc. * Presence and positions of trust in other open source projects, namely the Fedora Project. * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a distance team of people who have never all met in person. * Handful of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, and so forth. I can provide references for the above, if requested. Thanks - Karsten [1] If we move to OpenShift (or similar), then the admin access is who has keys to update the app on OpenShift; ultimately the same trust issues need to be resolved. - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP+7Eb2ZIOBq0ODEERAtCNAJ4zM91Pk9LsItsYXG6eU2x+HZHspACeJ8hy NGj6y7NSOuHVcPqYsxX9UCI=3D =3D16JZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============8862645982452340103==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 02:00:31 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8643903533782385371==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 02:00:29 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFBC4FD.10508@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFBB11B.1080002@redhat.com --===============8643903533782385371== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust > seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does > for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with > reasoning included.) > > We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each > other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By a > "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in > deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - once > created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how to > perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. > > Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, > some supporting points: > > * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop and > other locations. > * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming my wiki and GPG > accounts are not compromised, I have commit and email history to show > involvement.) > * Trust in Red Hat can extend to me, based on my 10+ years employment, > etc. > * Presence and positions of trust in other open source projects, > namely the Fedora Project. > * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a distance > team of people who have never all met in person. > * Handful of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, > and so forth. > > I can provide references for the above, if requested. +1 I personally believe the current team should be grandfathered in. I = think moving forward is were we as a team need to be thinking about who = gets added in. Thanks Robert > > Thanks - Karsten > > [1] If we move to OpenShift (or similar), then the admin access is who > has keys to update the app on OpenShift; ultimately the same trust > issues need to be resolved. > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP+7Eb2ZIOBq0ODEERAtCNAJ4zM91Pk9LsItsYXG6eU2x+HZHspACeJ8hy > NGj6y7NSOuHVcPqYsxX9UCI=3D > =3D16JZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============8643903533782385371==-- From iheim at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 02:09:11 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0661196770510910651==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:09:05 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFBC701.5@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFBC4FD.10508@middleswarth.net --===============0661196770510910651== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 09:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust >> seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does >> for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with >> reasoning included.) >> >> We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each >> other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By a >> "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in >> deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - once >> created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how to >> perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. >> >> Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, >> some supporting points: >> >> * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop and >> other locations. >> * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming my wiki and GPG >> accounts are not compromised, I have commit and email history to show >> involvement.) >> * Trust in Red Hat can extend to me, based on my 10+ years employment, >> etc. >> * Presence and positions of trust in other open source projects, >> namely the Fedora Project. >> * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a distance >> team of people who have never all met in person. >> * Handful of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, >> and so forth. >> >> I can provide references for the above, if requested. > +1 > > I personally believe the current team should be grandfathered in. I > think moving forward is were we as a team need to be thinking about who > gets added in. > +1 to both --===============0661196770510910651==-- From iheim at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 02:12:56 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6330451871330330886==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [RFC] moving services to OpenShift Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:12:51 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFBC7E3.3030102@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFB6010.90501@redhat.com --===============6330451871330330886== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 01:49 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of > moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically: > > * WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] > * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2] > > In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, > when/if they become possible/available. I tried using openshift for jenkins before we started with EC2. not sure where it is now, but suggest giving it some time before = re-trying, as we use jenkins extensively, while openshift jenkins is = more tailored for the code you bring into openshift wrt scale. (we are suffering from EC2 performance as well becasue of this, and = didn't even enable the amount of CI we are used to). btw, if you try to create an openshift account for ovirt and fail, ping = me to look up if that was the account i created to pass to you. > > The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the > server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share > responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are > maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it > updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull > requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts > of the infrastructure. > > What are some other reasons this is a good idea? > > What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea? > > We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on > this mailing list. > > - - Karsten > > [1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example > [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example > - -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP+2AQ2ZIOBq0ODEERAso9AKDV+NrEJjWFNd7WEuGDBLnUHR9mGQCeIVwY > oJfX35xtJZdb9nTgnusZfAY=3D > =3DeCES > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > --===============6330451871330330886==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 02:46:58 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7456205578507835744==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 02:46:56 -0400 Message-ID: <991420e4-b3f7-4ee5-b3d0-d8e9f6df8212@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFBC701.5@redhat.com --===============7456205578507835744== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Itamar Heim" > To: "Robert Middleswarth" > Cc: "infra" > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:09:05 AM > Subject: Re: Trust seed > = > On 07/10/2012 09:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a > >> trust > >> seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it > >> does > >> for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter > >> with > >> reasoning included.) > >> > >> We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each > >> other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. > >> By a > >> "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in > >> deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - > >> once > >> created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how to > >> perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. > >> > >> Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, > >> some supporting points: > >> > >> * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop > >> and > >> other locations. > >> * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming my wiki and GPG > >> accounts are not compromised, I have commit and email history to > >> show > >> involvement.) > >> * Trust in Red Hat can extend to me, based on my 10+ years > >> employment, > >> etc. > >> * Presence and positions of trust in other open source projects, > >> namely the Fedora Project. > >> * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a > >> distance > >> team of people who have never all met in person. > >> * Handful of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by > >> name, > >> and so forth. > >> > >> I can provide references for the above, if requested. > > +1 > > > > I personally believe the current team should be grandfathered in. > > I > > think moving forward is were we as a team need to be thinking about > > who > > gets added in. > > > = > +1 to both +1, looking forward to see the infra team & its resources grow and develop. > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============7456205578507835744==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 02:53:59 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8764704295950564772==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 02:53:59 -0400 Message-ID: <117ae3b6-353a-4f38-846e-9a4a977d30a6@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFAEAD1.8040305@redhat.com --===============8764704295950564772== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Douglas, If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to infra(a)ovirt.= org and request to install it. As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that requires being a m= ember of the infra team and approval of = its memebers/trust seeds. If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, please send a r= equest to infra(a)ovirt.org with some background (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). for now, please provide the missing rpms you know are failing the tests and= i'll look into fixing it. thanks, Eyal Edri ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Landgraf" > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > Cc: "Barak Azulay" > Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 5:29:37 PM > Subject: jenkins slaves > = > Hi, > = > My name is Douglas Schilling Landgraf, I work for Red Hat to > provide improvements for VDSM/oVirt. > I have noticed that jenkins vdsm_unit_tests project failed because of > a > package dependency. > If possible, can I have access to jenkins slaves to help maintain > this > VDSM test project? > = > = > Thanks! > = > -- > Cheers > Douglas > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============8764704295950564772==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 05:58:22 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8664912035017190101==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:58:19 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFBFCBB.5050907@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFBC4FD.10508@middleswarth.net --===============8664912035017190101== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 07/10/2012 08:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust >> seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does >> for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with >> reasoning included.) > +1 > > I personally believe the current team should be grandfathered in. I > think moving forward is were we as a team need to be thinking about who > gets added in. +1, and +1 also to seeding the team initially with the current ppl doing = sysadmin work, as Robert suggests. Cheers, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============8664912035017190101==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Tue Jul 10 06:03:55 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7035493521247118523==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:03:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20120710100346.GU28104@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 4FFBFCBB.5050907@redhat.com --===============7035493521247118523== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:58:19AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > On 07/10/2012 08:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust > >>seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does > >>for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with > >>reasoning included.) > > >+1 > > > >I personally believe the current team should be grandfathered in. I > >think moving forward is were we as a team need to be thinking about who > >gets added in. > > +1, and +1 also to seeding the team initially with the current ppl > doing sysadmin work, as Robert suggests. +1, I think those already doing work have proven themselves and as we gradually move towards configs in git we can introduce more fine grained access. --===============7035493521247118523==-- From jottinge at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 06:12:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4341223549039829773==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Joseph B. Ottinger To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:12:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFC0028.9060804@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFBB11B.1080002@redhat.com --===============4341223549039829773== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: +1 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust > seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does > for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with > reasoning included.) > > We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each > other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By a > "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in > deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - once > created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how to > perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. > > Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, > some supporting points: > > * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop and > other locations. > * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming my wiki and GPG > accounts are not compromised, I have commit and email history to show > involvement.) > * Trust in Red Hat can extend to me, based on my 10+ years employment, > etc. > * Presence and positions of trust in other open source projects, > namely the Fedora Project. > * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a distance > team of people who have never all met in person. > * Handful of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, > and so forth. > > I can provide references for the above, if requested. > > Thanks - Karsten > > [1] If we move to OpenShift (or similar), then the admin access is who > has keys to update the app on OpenShift; ultimately the same trust > issues need to be resolved. > - -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP+7Eb2ZIOBq0ODEERAtCNAJ4zM91Pk9LsItsYXG6eU2x+HZHspACeJ8hy > NGj6y7NSOuHVcPqYsxX9UCI=3D > =3D16JZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > -- = It's not my fault that I can't draw the human posterior with a mouse. --===============4341223549039829773==-- From lpeer at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 08:52:52 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1024816081915654709==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Livnat Peer To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:52:46 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFC259E.60306@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFBB11B.1080002@redhat.com --===============1024816081915654709== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 10/07/12 07:35, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > = > As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust > seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does > for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with > reasoning included.) > = > We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each > other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By a > "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in > deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - once > created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how to > perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. > = > Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, > some supporting points: > = > * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop and > other locations. > * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming my wiki and GPG > accounts are not compromised, I have commit and email history to show > involvement.) > * Trust in Red Hat can extend to me, based on my 10+ years employment, > etc. > * Presence and positions of trust in other open source projects, > namely the Fedora Project. > * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a distance > team of people who have never all met in person. > * Handful of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, > and so forth. > = > I can provide references for the above, if requested. > = > Thanks - Karsten +1, Karsten I think you are doing a great work in ovirt in general and I wish you luck making the infra sub-project a successful one. I would like to suggest that Moran Goldboim would also be included in the trust seed of the infra project. I think Moran is doing a lot of work in oVirt, he is well familiar in the oVirt community and has a lot of knowledge to contribute to the infra sub-project. Livnat > = > [1] If we move to OpenShift (or similar), then the admin access is who > has keys to update the app on OpenShift; ultimately the same trust > issues need to be resolved. > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > = > iD8DBQFP+7Eb2ZIOBq0ODEERAtCNAJ4zM91Pk9LsItsYXG6eU2x+HZHspACeJ8hy > NGj6y7NSOuHVcPqYsxX9UCI=3D > =3D16JZ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = --===============1024816081915654709==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 09:33:42 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7319482668734432159==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Meeting reminder - #osas at 1400 UTC - Infra Team Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:33:41 -0400 Message-ID: --===============7319482668734432159== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable See you in 30 minutes. - Karsten --===============7319482668734432159==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 09:46:33 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8203454389056766933==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Meeting reminder - #osas at 1400 UTC - Infra Team Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:46:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFC3236.2040204@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: v9qjnpb1qthcg7tk95qxj0ig.1341927100299@email.android.com --===============8203454389056766933== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Presumably in the subject you mean #ovirt on OFTC? Thanks, Dave. On 07/10/2012 03:33 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: > See you in 30 minutes. > > - Karsten > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============8203454389056766933==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 09:52:49 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1317720991603512480==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Meeting reminder - #ovirt at 1400 UTC - Infra Team Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 06:52:46 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFC33AE.9040006@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFC3236.2040204@redhat.com --===============1317720991603512480== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 06:46 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > = > Presumably in the subject you mean #ovirt on OFTC? Yes, thanks. Blame the early hour (and my focus on getting the time conversion correct.) - - Karsten > = > Thanks, Dave. > = > On 07/10/2012 03:33 PM, Karsten Wade wrote: >> See you in 30 minutes. >> = >> - Karsten _______________________________________________ Infra >> mailing list Infra(a)ovirt.org = >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> = > = - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/DOu2ZIOBq0ODEERAjqeAJoDH9EIzeCNcLtPaeY5JLwQLXCXEwCfa5S5 VYftZAk/7b77nuiDDQV4f94=3D =3DokeN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1317720991603512480==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 10:13:10 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8613849884477635033==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:13:08 -0400 Message-ID: <1341929588.26430.36.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFC259E.60306@redhat.com --===============8613849884477635033== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:52 +0300, Livnat Peer wrote: > On 10/07/12 07:35, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > = > > As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a trust > > seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what it does > > for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 (latter with > > reasoning included.) > > = > > We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each > > other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By a > > "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in > > deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - once > > created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how to > > perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. > > = > > Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, > > some supporting points: > > = > > * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop and > > other locations. > > * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming my wiki and GPG > > accounts are not compromised, I have commit and email history to show > > involvement.) > > * Trust in Red Hat can extend to me, based on my 10+ years employment, > > etc. > > * Presence and positions of trust in other open source projects, > > namely the Fedora Project. > > * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a distance > > team of people who have never all met in person. > > * Handful of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, > > and so forth. > > = > > I can provide references for the above, if requested. > > = > > Thanks - Karsten > = > = > +1, Karsten I think you are doing a great work in ovirt in general and I > wish you luck making the infra sub-project a successful one. +1 to Karsten being the initial seed and +1 to other infra members being grandfathered. > = > I would like to suggest that Moran Goldboim would also be included in > the trust seed of the infra project. > = > I think Moran is doing a lot of work in oVirt, he is well familiar in > the oVirt community and has a lot of knowledge to contribute to the > infra sub-project. My only question here is whether Moran has already done work in the infra team. There is certainly work done in other projects, but not much in the infra team that I recall. Perhaps add Moran as the first or second person through the process? Mike > = > Livnat > = > = > > = > > [1] If we move to OpenShift (or similar), then the admin access is who > > has keys to update the app on OpenShift; ultimately the same trust > > issues need to be resolved. > > - -- = > > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > = > > iD8DBQFP+7Eb2ZIOBq0ODEERAtCNAJ4zM91Pk9LsItsYXG6eU2x+HZHspACeJ8hy > > NGj6y7NSOuHVcPqYsxX9UCI=3D > > =3D16JZ > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > = > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============8613849884477635033==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 11:23:38 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2594741706503338217==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Meeting minutes :: 2012-07-10 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 08:23:35 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFC48F7.2030305@redhat.com> --===============2594741706503338217== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-10-14.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-10-14.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-10-14.00.log.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #ovirt Meeting =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Meeting started by quaid at 14:00:56 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-10-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary - --------------- * roll call aka "quick howdies" (quaid, 14:01:22) * LINK: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-03-14.00.html (quaid, 14:03:09) * agenda (quaid, 14:03:43) * Sub-project idea & status (quaid, 14:09:48) * LINK: http://lists.ovirt.org/pipermail/board/2012-July/000570.html (quaid, 14:10:35) * LINK: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/board (quaid, 14:12:39) * The charter takes into account none programming maintainer so the sub projects should as well. (RobertM, 14:14:14) * Team mission (quaid, 14:15:23) * need to decide on update policies (quaid, 14:28:20) * ACTION: need to find one or more Puppet chiefs to lead us from the darkness (quaid, 14:28:34) * ACTION: RobertM to open & run thread about mission/goals/methods (quaid, 14:31:59) * New Jenkins server (quaid, 14:32:45) * ACTION: eedri to try to split up current jobs on jenkins.ovirt.org to try to speed us run time (eedri, 14:44:42) * AGREED: new Jenkins server" enable per patch builds on ovirt-node, watch load, then add per patch builds of vdsm (quaid, 14:51:38) * Migrating Jenkins from EC2 (quaid, 14:55:12) * LINK: http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra (quaid, 14:59:04) * gestahlt has offered free vm hosting for jenkins slaves (mburns, 15:07:28) * just need to get ovirt running in gestahlt 's environment (mburns, 15:07:55) * may get hardware available from Red Hat IT eventually, but not for a couple months... (mburns, 15:08:50) Meeting ended at 15:17:26 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * need to find one or more Puppet chiefs to lead us from the darkness * RobertM to open & run thread about mission/goals/methods * eedri to try to split up current jobs on jenkins.ovirt.org to try to speed us run time Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * eedri * eedri to try to split up current jobs on jenkins.ovirt.org to try to speed us run time * RobertM * RobertM to open & run thread about mission/goals/methods * **UNASSIGNED** * need to find one or more Puppet chiefs to lead us from the darkness People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * quaid (90) * eedri (80) * mburns (57) * ewoud (48) * gestahlt (25) * RobertM (21) * ovirtbot (10) * dneary (5) * sgordon_ (2) * joncox (2) * MiKom (1) * rgolan (1) * tj (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Ej32ZIOBq0ODEERAv7VAKCEOrVCPhVo+j51ecUmos34ZMsv6QCcC667 sBSWz6irdVYYMj81yDDlaN8=3D =3Dvtsa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============2594741706503338217==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 11:25:26 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4209952241858747592==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 08:25:23 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFC4963.8040202@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 20120710100346.GU28104@bogey.xentower.nl --===============4209952241858747592== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 03:03 AM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:58:19AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: >> On 07/10/2012 08:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >>> On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>>> As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as >>>> a trust seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, >>>> and what it does for us. Full consensus requested, please: >>>> +1, +0, or -1 (latter with reasoning included.) >> = >>> +1 >>> = >>> I personally believe the current team should be grandfathered >>> in. I think moving forward is were we as a team need to be >>> thinking about who gets added in. >> = >> +1, and +1 also to seeding the team initially with the current >> ppl doing sysadmin work, as Robert suggests. > = > +1, I think those already doing work have proven themselves and as > we gradually move towards configs in git we can introduce more fine > grained access. +1 Basically, that's my scheme - start with the current team who has been thinking and caring about Infra. My eye sees Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden, Mike Burns, Robert Middleswarth, Eyal Edri, Itamar Heim, and Moran Goldboim. Am I missing anyone? Someone doing Infrastructure work in Tel Aviv who needs to be included? Thanks - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Elj2ZIOBq0ODEERAkMjAJ9VaQ8gbQ/KX/0oqhOBceKFgXk6zQCgl0or tOvp6Bbk1BIFYu9tatKIHQI=3D =3DKGAK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4209952241858747592==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 11:27:41 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5791015620017251797==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 08:27:36 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFC49E8.1000100@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341929588.26430.36.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============5791015620017251797== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 07:13 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:52 +0300, Livnat Peer wrote: >> On 10/07/12 07:35, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a > trust seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what > it does for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 > (latter with reasoning included.) > = > We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each = > other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By > a "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in = > deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - > once created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how > to perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. > = > Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, = > some supporting points: > = > * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop > and other locations. * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming > my wiki and GPG accounts are not compromised, I have commit and > email history to show involvement.) * Trust in Red Hat can extend > to me, based on my 10+ years employment, etc. * Presence and > positions of trust in other open source projects, namely the Fedora > Project. * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a > distance team of people who have never all met in person. * Handful > of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, and so > forth. > = > I can provide references for the above, if requested. > = > Thanks - Karsten >>> = >>> = >>> +1, Karsten I think you are doing a great work in ovirt in >>> general and I wish you luck making the infra sub-project a >>> successful one. > = >> +1 to Karsten being the initial seed and +1 to other infra >> members being grandfathered. > = >>> = >>> I would like to suggest that Moran Goldboim would also be >>> included in the trust seed of the infra project. >>> = >>> I think Moran is doing a lot of work in oVirt, he is well >>> familiar in the oVirt community and has a lot of knowledge to >>> contribute to the infra sub-project. >> My only question here is whether Moran has already done work in >> the infra team. There is certainly work done in other projects, >> but not much in the infra team that I recall. Perhaps add Moran >> as the first or second person through the process? I added Moran to my list just in case - I want to be sure we don't get in the way of work anyone is doing already, even if we aren't aware of it. By this I mean, some folks may be doing infrastructure work but haven't been making noise about that work; if that's happening, let's find a way to include such folks. Perhaps as you say, Moran and others could go through an Infra Team joining process, as long as that doesn't interfere with his ability to work? - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Eno2ZIOBq0ODEERAjfqAJ9SJRcQ8aHzxhqLqGhn/m0VMrWuZQCfR4Hb d0qUj6m1RY+6RXQvJNn+JS8=3D =3Da9sr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5791015620017251797==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 11:30:54 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5135775570363121348==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:30:53 -0400 Message-ID: <1341934253.26430.38.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFC49E8.1000100@redhat.com --===============5135775570363121348== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:27 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On 07/10/2012 07:13 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:52 +0300, Livnat Peer wrote: > >> On 10/07/12 07:35, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as a > > trust seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, and what > > it does for us. Full consensus requested, please: +1, +0, or -1 > > (latter with reasoning included.) > > = > > We need to make the leap with this project and begin trusting each = > > other enough to share root/sudo access on production servers[1]. By > > a "trust seed" I mean, a person who all others involved trust in = > > deciding who else to trust. As a seed, it's a one time thing - > > once created, the initial trust circle will decide for itself how > > to perpetuate, i.e., how to add new people in to the trust circle. > > = > > Regarding my qualifications for being trusted and extending trust, = > > some supporting points: > > = > > * Some of you have met me in person, at the initial oVirt workshop > > and other locations. * Demonstrated involvement in oVirt (presuming > > my wiki and GPG accounts are not compromised, I have commit and > > email history to show involvement.) * Trust in Red Hat can extend > > to me, based on my 10+ years employment, etc. * Presence and > > positions of trust in other open source projects, namely the Fedora > > Project. * Experience working in Fedora Infrastructure as part of a > > distance team of people who have never all met in person. * Handful > > of videos of me talking at conferences, identified by name, and so > > forth. > > = > > I can provide references for the above, if requested. > > = > > Thanks - Karsten > >>> = > >>> = > >>> +1, Karsten I think you are doing a great work in ovirt in > >>> general and I wish you luck making the infra sub-project a > >>> successful one. > > = > >> +1 to Karsten being the initial seed and +1 to other infra > >> members being grandfathered. > > = > >>> = > >>> I would like to suggest that Moran Goldboim would also be > >>> included in the trust seed of the infra project. > >>> = > >>> I think Moran is doing a lot of work in oVirt, he is well > >>> familiar in the oVirt community and has a lot of knowledge to > >>> contribute to the infra sub-project. > >> My only question here is whether Moran has already done work in > >> the infra team. There is certainly work done in other projects, > >> but not much in the infra team that I recall. Perhaps add Moran > >> as the first or second person through the process? > = > I added Moran to my list just in case - I want to be sure we don't get > in the way of work anyone is doing already, even if we aren't aware of > it. By this I mean, some folks may be doing infrastructure work but > haven't been making noise about that work; if that's happening, let's > find a way to include such folks. Perhaps as you say, Moran and others > could go through an Infra Team joining process, as long as that > doesn't interfere with his ability to work? Sure, that's fine. Moran is pretty easy to accept anyway give the @redhat.com email address... Mike > = > - Karsten > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============5135775570363121348==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 11:37:35 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6340763316628188766==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 08:37:32 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFC4C3C.7060606@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341934210.26430.37.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============6340763316628188766== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 08:30 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:25 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> = >> Basically, that's my scheme - start with the current team who has >> been thinking and caring about Infra. My eye sees Ewoud Kohl van = >> Wijngaarden, Mike Burns, Robert Middleswarth, Eyal Edri, Itamar >> Heim, and Moran Goldboim. > = > Ofer should be on this list too... D'oh! Thanks, added. - - Karsten-- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Ew72ZIOBq0ODEERAopXAKCE3Ac6Iv35gmpnuAKVs46xIaWp1QCg2wgQ uPX/VMxM23CCcgALGm/QY1I=3D =3DQpyL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============6340763316628188766==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 12:11:50 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1516254222057975702==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 11:30:10 -0400 Message-ID: <1341934210.26430.37.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFC4963.8040202@redhat.com --===============1516254222057975702== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 08:25 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On 07/10/2012 03:03 AM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 11:58:19AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: > >> On 07/10/2012 08:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >>> On 07/10/2012 12:35 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>>> As discussed in last week's meeting, I'm proposing myself as > >>>> a trust seed for this team. Here's what that means, why me, > >>>> and what it does for us. Full consensus requested, please: > >>>> +1, +0, or -1 (latter with reasoning included.) > >> = > >>> +1 > >>> = > >>> I personally believe the current team should be grandfathered > >>> in. I think moving forward is were we as a team need to be > >>> thinking about who gets added in. > >> = > >> +1, and +1 also to seeding the team initially with the current > >> ppl doing sysadmin work, as Robert suggests. > > = > > +1, I think those already doing work have proven themselves and as > > we gradually move towards configs in git we can introduce more fine > > grained access. > = > +1 > = > Basically, that's my scheme - start with the current team who has been > thinking and caring about Infra. My eye sees Ewoud Kohl van > Wijngaarden, Mike Burns, Robert Middleswarth, Eyal Edri, Itamar Heim, > and Moran Goldboim. Ofer should be on this list too... > = > Am I missing anyone? Someone doing Infrastructure work in Tel Aviv who > needs to be included? > = > Thanks - Karsten > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============1516254222057975702==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 12:20:36 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3469694850570516958==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:20:31 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFC564F.5070907@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1341934253.26430.38.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============3469694850570516958== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 07/10/2012 05:30 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > Sure, that's fine. Moran is pretty easy to accept anyway give the > @redhat.com email address... ...although of course we don't want to start setting a different bar for = people with and without @redhat.com addresses. I'd suggest that Moran is easier to trust because he's endorsed by = Livnat, who we know and trust, but I'd say it would be better to have = him join the oVirt infra team at the point where not being part of the = team prevents him from doing something useful. And of course, whatever bar we set for Moran, we should have the same = bar for others (so, for example, if tomorrow RobertM proposes adding = someone to the team who has not previously worked on infra, this = situation would be a precedent). Cheers, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============3469694850570516958==-- From cctrieloff at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 12:21:00 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0186856076570308468==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Carl Trieloff To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 12:20:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFC566B.4040406@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFC4963.8040202@redhat.com --===============0186856076570308468== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 11:25 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > Basically, that's my scheme - start with the current team who has been > thinking and caring about Infra. My eye sees Ewoud Kohl van > Wijngaarden, Mike Burns, Robert Middleswarth, Eyal Edri, Itamar Heim, > and Moran Goldboim. > > Am I missing anyone? Someone doing Infrastructure work in Tel Aviv who > needs to be included? I'm good with this, and please send a mail to the board@ once list is finalized for notification and ack. Carl. --===============0186856076570308468==-- From mgoldboi at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 13:55:55 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0659035438382308795==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Moran Goldboim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:55:51 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFC6CA7.5020701@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFC564F.5070907@redhat.com --===============0659035438382308795== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 07:20 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > On 07/10/2012 05:30 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >> Sure, that's fine. Moran is pretty easy to accept anyway give the >> @redhat.com email address... > > ...although of course we don't want to start setting a different bar = > for people with and without @redhat.com addresses. > > I'd suggest that Moran is easier to trust because he's endorsed by = > Livnat, who we know and trust, but I'd say it would be better to have = > him join the oVirt infra team at the point where not being part of the = > team prevents him from doing something useful. > > And of course, whatever bar we set for Moran, we should have the same = > bar for others (so, for example, if tomorrow RobertM proposes adding = > someone to the team who has not previously worked on infra, this = > situation would be a precedent). > > Cheers, > Dave. > great to see i'm used as a case study. true, I was a part of oVirt work on different aspects till now, less on = the infra front directly. i would be happy to help on oVirt infra if the chance would be given to me. --===============0659035438382308795==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 14:16:08 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7058495357190224329==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Trust seed Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:16:03 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFC7163.4070801@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFC6CA7.5020701@redhat.com --===============7058495357190224329== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Moran, On 07/10/2012 07:55 PM, Moran Goldboim wrote: > great to see i'm used as a case study. :) I hope you don't mind! > true, I was a part of oVirt work on different aspects till now, less on > the infra front directly. > i would be happy to help on oVirt infra if the chance would be given to m= e. The idea, I hope, is that everyone has the opportunity to help on oVirt = infra - our challenge is to figure out how to enable people to = contribute without having root access to oVirt machines, and thus allow = them to build the trust of the infra team. So whatever happens, you will have the chance to help on oVirt infra. Thank you for your offer! Cheers, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============7058495357190224329==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 15:27:44 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0044487406538781466==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:27:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFC822B.4000702@middleswarth.net> --===============0044487406538781466== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement was = talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask for = feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. I = tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at mission = statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. Proposed Mission Statement: The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastructure = team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's = project infrastructure following accepted professional standards of = system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time to = contribute to the oVirt project. Thanks Robert --===============0044487406538781466==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 15:48:51 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2081658146188564826==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:48:49 -0400 Message-ID: <1341949729.26430.43.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFC822B.4000702@middleswarth.net --===============2081658146188564826== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement was = > talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask for = > feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. I = > tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at mission = > statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. > = > Proposed Mission Statement: > = > The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastructure = > team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's = > project infrastructure following accepted professional standards of = > system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time to = > contribute to the oVirt project. A few nits and reorganizations... The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, the oVirt project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of system administrators. > = > Thanks > Robert > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============2081658146188564826==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 15:49:58 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5666823575976487138==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFC8762.7020308@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1341949729.26430.43.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============5666823575976487138== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement was >> talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask for >> feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. I >> tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at mission >> statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. >> >> Proposed Mission Statement: >> >> The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastructure >> team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's >> project infrastructure following accepted professional standards of >> system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time to >> contribute to the oVirt project. > A few nits and reorganizations... > > The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, the oVirt > project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of > system administrators. I like that one better :) > > >> Thanks >> Robert >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > --===============5666823575976487138==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Tue Jul 10 15:58:38 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5156726651928941612==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:58:31 +0200 Message-ID: <20120710195830.GV28104@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 4FFC8762.7020308@middleswarth.net --===============5156726651928941612== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > >On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >>This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement was > >>talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask for > >>feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. I > >>tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at mission > >>statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. > >> > >>Proposed Mission Statement: > >> > >>The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastructure > >>team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's > >>project infrastructure following accepted professional standards of > >>system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time to > >>contribute to the oVirt project. > >A few nits and reorganizations... > > > >The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > >volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, the oVirt > >project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of > >system administrators. > I like that one better :) Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it. Not sure about the double professional in there. What's the difference between a professional manner and following accepted professional standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards as well. --===============5156726651928941612==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 16:10:14 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0557640697371246815==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:09:53 -0400 Message-ID: <1341950993.26417.1.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 20120710195830.GV28104@bogey.xentower.nl --===============0557640697371246815== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:58 +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > >On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > >>This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement was > > >>talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask for > > >>feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. I > > >>tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at mission > > >>statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. > > >> > > >>Proposed Mission Statement: > > >> > > >>The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastructure > > >>team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's > > >>project infrastructure following accepted professional standards of > > >>system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time to > > >>contribute to the oVirt project. > > >A few nits and reorganizations... > > > > > >The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > > >volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, the oVi= rt > > >project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of > > >system administrators. > > I like that one better :) > Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it. Not > sure about the double professional in there. What's the difference > between a professional manner and following accepted professional > standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards as well. I missed the double professional. Not sure how modern fits there. It seems to make it a bit wordy... The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of volunteers. It purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of system administrators. > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============0557640697371246815==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 16:10:42 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6441468120337158720==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:10:40 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFC8C40.3020402@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 20120710195830.GV28104@bogey.xentower.nl --===============6441468120337158720== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 12:58 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth > wrote: >> On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >>>> This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission >>>> statement was talked about and I was asked to send out some >>>> suggestions and ask for feedback and combine the comments >>>> into a good mission statement. I tired to take what was >>>> talked about in the chat and looked at mission statements of >>>> other projects and this is what I came up with. >>>> = >>>> Proposed Mission Statement: >>>> = >>>> The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services >>>> infrastructure team. It purpose is to manage in a >>>> professional manner the oVirt's project infrastructure >>>> following accepted professional standards of system >>>> administrators. These administrators volunteer their time >>>> to contribute to the oVirt project. >>> A few nits and reorganizations... >>> = >>> The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made >>> up of volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional >>> manner, the oVirt project's infrastructure following accepted >>> professional standards of system administrators. >> I like that one better :) > Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it. > Not sure about the double professional in there. What's the > difference between a professional manner and following accepted > professional standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards > as well. I think we could possible drop the professional manner - that may be a mental barrier to people, "Oh, we can't be playful? This sounds so corporate. Etc." For example: "The oVirt Infrastructure (Infra) project is a community services infrastructure team made up of volunteers. Its purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure following both accepted professional standards of system administrators and the open source way." The last bit is added to support our lack of a definition of "community services infrastructure", which I use to mean, "Follows the open source way in providing services - open, transparent, appropriately low/high barriers, common tools, avoid NIH, etc." Is "the open source way" sufficient without further explanation, or do we need: "... the open source way, meaning anyone is welcome to join the project and gain trust and access through merit." ... and now it doesn't sound like a mission anymore. Would it be too much to actually make a methodology part of the mission? I.e., teaching others to fish while fishing with them as a mission. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/IxA2ZIOBq0ODEERAl3DAJ48n6NgZDTMNhEjkGwQZv5Vc351/gCggMcM or4FdV8udyUxspdlkqbRkSA=3D =3DDegf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============6441468120337158720==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 16:11:10 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5008880898553307478==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:11:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1341951065.26417.2.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 1341950993.26417.1.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============5008880898553307478== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 16:09 -0400, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:58 +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > > On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > > >On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > > >>This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement was > > > >>talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask f= or > > > >>feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. I > > > >>tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at missi= on > > > >>statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. > > > >> > > > >>Proposed Mission Statement: > > > >> > > > >>The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastruct= ure > > > >>team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's > > > >>project infrastructure following accepted professional standards of > > > >>system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time to > > > >>contribute to the oVirt project. > > > >A few nits and reorganizations... > > > > > > > >The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > > > >volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, the o= Virt > > > >project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of > > > >system administrators. > > > I like that one better :) > > Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it. Not > > sure about the double professional in there. What's the difference > > between a professional manner and following accepted professional > > standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards as well. > = > I missed the double professional. Not sure how modern fits there. It > seems to make it a bit wordy... > = > The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > volunteers. It purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure > following accepted professional standards of system administrators. Fixing It -> Its The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of volunteers. Its purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of system administrators. > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============5008880898553307478==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Tue Jul 10 16:17:50 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1441412179585414841==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:17:44 +0200 Message-ID: <20120710201744.GW28104@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 1341951065.26417.2.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============1441412179585414841== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:11:05PM -0400, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 16:09 -0400, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:58 +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > > > On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > > > >On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > > > >>This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement w= as > > > > >>talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask= for > > > > >>feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. = I > > > > >>tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at mis= sion > > > > >>statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. > > > > >> > > > > >>Proposed Mission Statement: > > > > >> > > > > >>The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastru= cture > > > > >>team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's > > > > >>project infrastructure following accepted professional standards = of > > > > >>system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time= to > > > > >>contribute to the oVirt project. > > > > >A few nits and reorganizations... > > > > > > > > > >The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up= of > > > > >volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, the= oVirt > > > > >project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards= of > > > > >system administrators. > > > > I like that one better :) > > > Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it. N= ot > > > sure about the double professional in there. What's the difference > > > between a professional manner and following accepted professional > > > standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards as well. > > = > > I missed the double professional. Not sure how modern fits there. It > > seems to make it a bit wordy... > > = > > The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > > volunteers. It purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure > > following accepted professional standards of system administrators. > = > Fixing It -> Its > = > The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > volunteers. Its purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure > following accepted professional standards of system administrators. Trimming it further: The infra team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure services by following accepted professional standards of system administrators. --===============1441412179585414841==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 16:19:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0671605117043296944==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:18:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFC8E30.9050909@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFC8C40.3020402@redhat.com --===============0671605117043296944== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 04:10 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/10/2012 12:58 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth >> wrote: >>> On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >>>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >>>>> This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission >>>>> statement was talked about and I was asked to send out some >>>>> suggestions and ask for feedback and combine the comments >>>>> into a good mission statement. I tired to take what was >>>>> talked about in the chat and looked at mission statements of >>>>> other projects and this is what I came up with. >>>>> >>>>> Proposed Mission Statement: >>>>> >>>>> The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services >>>>> infrastructure team. It purpose is to manage in a >>>>> professional manner the oVirt's project infrastructure >>>>> following accepted professional standards of system >>>>> administrators. These administrators volunteer their time >>>>> to contribute to the oVirt project. >>>> A few nits and reorganizations... >>>> >>>> The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made >>>> up of volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional >>>> manner, the oVirt project's infrastructure following accepted >>>> professional standards of system administrators. >>> I like that one better :) >> Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it. >> Not sure about the double professional in there. What's the >> difference between a professional manner and following accepted >> professional standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards >> as well. > I think we could possible drop the professional manner - that may be a > mental barrier to people, "Oh, we can't be playful? This sounds so > corporate. Etc." > > For example: > > "The oVirt Infrastructure (Infra) project is a community services > infrastructure team made up of volunteers. Its purpose is to manage > the oVirt project's infrastructure following both accepted > professional standards of system administrators and the open source > way." We are stating the community services that implies "in the open source = way" so if you want open source in the mission statement we could tweak = the community services line. > The last bit is added to support our lack of a definition of > "community services infrastructure", which I use to mean, "Follows the > open source way in providing services - open, transparent, > appropriately low/high barriers, common tools, avoid NIH, etc." > > Is "the open source way" sufficient without further explanation, or do > we need: > > "... the open source way, meaning anyone is welcome to join the > project and gain trust and access through merit." To long mission statements are short and sweet. Also getting off the = main focus running the infrastructure for the project. > > ... and now it doesn't sound like a mission anymore. Would it be too > much to actually make a methodology part of the mission? I.e., > teaching others to fish while fishing with them as a mission. > > - - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP/IxA2ZIOBq0ODEERAl3DAJ48n6NgZDTMNhEjkGwQZv5Vc351/gCggMcM > or4FdV8udyUxspdlkqbRkSA=3D > =3DDegf > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============0671605117043296944==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Tue Jul 10 16:22:34 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7403422318159045010==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:22:29 +0200 Message-ID: <20120710202229.GX28104@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 20120710201744.GW28104@bogey.xentower.nl --===============7403422318159045010== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 10:17:44PM +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:11:05PM -0400, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 16:09 -0400, Mike Burns wrote: > > > On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:58 +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > > > > On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > > > > >On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > > > > >>This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement= was > > > > > >>talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and a= sk for > > > > > >>feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement= . I > > > > > >>tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at m= ission > > > > > >>statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Proposed Mission Statement: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrast= ructure > > > > > >>team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVir= t's > > > > > >>project infrastructure following accepted professional standard= s of > > > > > >>system administrators. These administrators volunteer their ti= me to > > > > > >>contribute to the oVirt project. > > > > > >A few nits and reorganizations... > > > > > > > > > > > >The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made = up of > > > > > >volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, t= he oVirt > > > > > >project's infrastructure following accepted professional standar= ds of > > > > > >system administrators. > > > > > I like that one better :) > > > > Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it.= Not > > > > sure about the double professional in there. What's the difference > > > > between a professional manner and following accepted professional > > > > standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards as well. > > > = > > > I missed the double professional. Not sure how modern fits there. It > > > seems to make it a bit wordy... > > > = > > > The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > > > volunteers. It purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure > > > following accepted professional standards of system administrators. > > = > > Fixing It -> Its > > = > > The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of > > volunteers. Its purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure > > following accepted professional standards of system administrators. > = > Trimming it further: > = > The infra team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure > services by following accepted professional standards of system > administrators. And with the comments from IRC: The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure services by following accepted professional standards of system administrators and the open source way. --===============7403422318159045010==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 16:24:42 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6455655667876107317==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:24:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFC8F86.3010505@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 20120710201744.GW28104@bogey.xentower.nl --===============6455655667876107317== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 04:17 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:11:05PM -0400, Mike Burns wrote: >> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 16:09 -0400, Mike Burns wrote: >>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:58 +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: >>>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 03:49:54PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >>>>> On 07/10/2012 03:48 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 15:27 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >>>>>>> This week in the infra meeting the topic of a mission statement was >>>>>>> talked about and I was asked to send out some suggestions and ask f= or >>>>>>> feedback and combine the comments into a good mission statement. I >>>>>>> tired to take what was talked about in the chat and looked at missi= on >>>>>>> statements of other projects and this is what I came up with. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Proposed Mission Statement: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Infrastructure (infra) team is a community services infrastruct= ure >>>>>>> team. It purpose is to manage in a professional manner the oVirt's >>>>>>> project infrastructure following accepted professional standards of >>>>>>> system administrators. These administrators volunteer their time to >>>>>>> contribute to the oVirt project. >>>>>> A few nits and reorganizations... >>>>>> >>>>>> The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of >>>>>> volunteers. It purpose is to manage, in a professional manner, the o= Virt >>>>>> project's infrastructure following accepted professional standards of >>>>>> system administrators. >>>>> I like that one better :) >>>> Provided you change 'It purpose' to 'Its purpose' I mostly like it. Not >>>> sure about the double professional in there. What's the difference >>>> between a professional manner and following accepted professional >>>> standards? Maybe make it modern professional standards as well. >>> I missed the double professional. Not sure how modern fits there. It >>> seems to make it a bit wordy... >>> >>> The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of >>> volunteers. It purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure >>> following accepted professional standards of system administrators. >> Fixing It -> Its >> >> The infra team is a community services infrastructure team made up of >> volunteers. Its purpose is to manage the oVirt project's infrastructure >> following accepted professional standards of system administrators. > Trimming it further: > > The infra team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure > services by following accepted professional standards of system > administrators. Incorporating in the suggestions from IRC and the thread. The oVirt's infra team is a volunteer effort to provide community = infrastructure services by following accepted open standards of system administrators. > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============6455655667876107317==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 16:30:00 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4351746502657091226==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:29:55 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFC90C3.8070507@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 20120710202229.GX28104@bogey.xentower.nl --===============4351746502657091226== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 01:22 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community = > infrastructure services by following accepted professional > standards of system administrators and the open source way. OK, I like this now, it's maybe a bit long? but has all the elements. I do see the final clauses get confusing so that it can be read "following accepted professional standards of the open source way." Perhaps: "The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure services by following the open source way and accepted professional standards of system administrators." - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/JDD2ZIOBq0ODEERAgipAJ98Fvg20u7i9TzaVIlvWRY4TQAC5wCgl4GB 5JNAJ8/ioawKk1cWCzeWpD4=3D =3Du0no -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4351746502657091226==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 16:47:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9135538948304319668==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:47:52 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFC94F8.3030506@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFC90C3.8070507@redhat.com --===============9135538948304319668== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 04:29 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/10/2012 01:22 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: >> The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community >> infrastructure services by following accepted professional >> standards of system administrators and the open source way. > OK, I like this now, it's maybe a bit long? but has all the elements. > > I do see the final clauses get confusing so that it can be read > "following accepted professional standards of the open source way." > Perhaps: > > "The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the open source way and accepted > professional standards of system administrators." What about: The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure services by following "The Open Source Way" and accepted professional standards of system administrators. That works for me. Thanks Robert > - - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP/JDD2ZIOBq0ODEERAgipAJ98Fvg20u7i9TzaVIlvWRY4TQAC5wCgl4GB > 5JNAJ8/ioawKk1cWCzeWpD4=3D > =3Du0no > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============9135538948304319668==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 17:42:46 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8234843131872244287==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:42:44 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFCA1D4.5050709@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFC94F8.3030506@middleswarth.net --===============8234843131872244287== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 04:47 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/10/2012 04:29 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/10/2012 01:22 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: >>> The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community >>> infrastructure services by following accepted professional >>> standards of system administrators and the open source way. >> OK, I like this now, it's maybe a bit long? but has all the elements. >> >> I do see the final clauses get confusing so that it can be read >> "following accepted professional standards of the open source way." >> Perhaps: >> >> "The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community >> infrastructure services by following the open source way and accepted >> professional standards of system administrators." > What about: > > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following "The Open Source Way" and accepted > professional standards of system administrators. > Another option is: The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure services by following the tenants of open source and accepted professional standards of system administrators. > That works for me. > > Thanks > Robert >> - - Karsten >> - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iD8DBQFP/JDD2ZIOBq0ODEERAgipAJ98Fvg20u7i9TzaVIlvWRY4TQAC5wCgl4GB >> 5JNAJ8/ioawKk1cWCzeWpD4=3D >> =3Du0no >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============8234843131872244287==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 17:48:56 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2376411753761484463==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:48:53 -0400 Message-ID: <1341956933.3071.4.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FFCA1D4.5050709@middleswarth.net --===============2376411753761484463== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 17:42 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/10/2012 04:47 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > On 07/10/2012 04:29 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 07/10/2012 01:22 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > >>> The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > >>> infrastructure services by following accepted professional > >>> standards of system administrators and the open source way. > >> OK, I like this now, it's maybe a bit long? but has all the elements. > >> > >> I do see the final clauses get confusing so that it can be read > >> "following accepted professional standards of the open source way." > >> Perhaps: > >> > >> "The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > >> infrastructure services by following the open source way and accepted > >> professional standards of system administrators." > > What about: > > > > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > > infrastructure services by following "The Open Source Way" and accepted > > professional standards of system administrators. > > > Another option is: > = > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the tenants of open source and accep= ted > professional standards of system administrators. Assuming you mean "tenets" instead of "tenants", I like this. > = > = > > That works for me. > > > > Thanks > > Robert > >> - - Karsten > >> - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > >> > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > >> > >> iD8DBQFP/JDD2ZIOBq0ODEERAgipAJ98Fvg20u7i9TzaVIlvWRY4TQAC5wCgl4GB > >> 5JNAJ8/ioawKk1cWCzeWpD4=3D > >> =3Du0no > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============2376411753761484463==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 17:50:29 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3018988536386595475==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infra project mission statement RFC Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:50:27 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFCA3A3.2020006@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFCA1D4.5050709@middleswarth.net --===============3018988536386595475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 05:42 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/10/2012 04:47 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> On 07/10/2012 04:29 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 07/10/2012 01:22 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: >>>> The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community >>>> infrastructure services by following accepted professional >>>> standards of system administrators and the open source way. >>> OK, I like this now, it's maybe a bit long? but has all the elements. >>> >>> I do see the final clauses get confusing so that it can be read >>> "following accepted professional standards of the open source way." >>> Perhaps: >>> >>> "The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community >>> infrastructure services by following the open source way and accepted >>> professional standards of system administrators." >> What about: >> >> The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community >> infrastructure services by following "The Open Source Way" and accepted >> professional standards of system administrators. >> > Another option is: > > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the tenants of open source and = > accepted > professional standards of system administrators. > It helps to use the right word. :) The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and accepted professional standards of system administrators. > >> That works for me. >> >> Thanks >> Robert >>> - - Karsten >>> - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >>> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >>> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 >>> >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>> >>> iD8DBQFP/JDD2ZIOBq0ODEERAgipAJ98Fvg20u7i9TzaVIlvWRY4TQAC5wCgl4GB >>> 5JNAJ8/ioawKk1cWCzeWpD4=3D >>> =3Du0no >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Infra mailing list >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============3018988536386595475==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 10 21:31:17 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2842778864540677433==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Vote on the mission statement. Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:31:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFCD763.8010402@middleswarth.net> --===============2842778864540677433== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After reviewing all the input and putting it all together this is what = we ended up with. Please vote if you think we should adopt this as out = mission statement. If you like please put +1 if you hate put a -1 if you = aren't sure put a 0. Proposed Mission Statement The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and accepted professional standards of system administrators. Thanks Robert --===============2842778864540677433==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 10 22:56:34 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3527198799083159601==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Vote on the mission statement. Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 19:56:31 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFCEB5F.2070308@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFCD763.8010402@middleswarth.net --===============3527198799083159601== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 06:31 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > After reviewing all the input and putting it all together this is > what we ended up with. Please vote if you think we should adopt > this as out mission statement. If you like please put +1 if you > hate put a -1 if you aren't sure put a 0. > = > Proposed Mission Statement > = > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community = > infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and > accepted professional standards of system administrators. +1 - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Otf2ZIOBq0ODEERAhGpAJkBOrj8jbCKl/W5d82iIzpCKOHukwCgxHIt gxjPaGiYGdtIj4W+d5ZaBs4=3D =3DMDQM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============3527198799083159601==-- From dougsland at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 00:41:11 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3873415717428975143==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas Landgraf To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:41:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFD11F0.2040405@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 117ae3b6-353a-4f38-846e-9a4a977d30a6@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============3873415717428975143== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eyal, On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > Hi Douglas, > > If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to infra(a)ovir= t.org and request to install it. ok > As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that requires being = a member of the infra team and approval of > its memebers/trust seeds. > > If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, please send a= request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some background > (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). hum, could you please provide a detailed example? > > for now, please provide the missing rpms you know are failing the tests a= nd i'll look into fixing it. Can you please confirm if cherrypy (and all dependencies) is installed? = (As Dan pointed) > thanks, > > Eyal Edri > Thanks! > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Douglas Landgraf" >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org >> Cc: "Barak Azulay" >> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 5:29:37 PM >> Subject: jenkins slaves >> >> Hi, >> >> My name is Douglas Schilling Landgraf, I work for Red Hat to >> provide improvements for VDSM/oVirt. >> I have noticed that jenkins vdsm_unit_tests project failed because of >> a >> package dependency. >> If possible, can I have access to jenkins slaves to help maintain >> this >> VDSM test project? >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Cheers >> Douglas >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> -- = Cheers Douglas --===============3873415717428975143==-- From fabiand at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 02:37:22 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7067638092795994603==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Fabian Deutsch To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Gerrit's gitweb page is missing public git url Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:37:16 +0200 Message-ID: <1341988636.2416.0.camel@fdeutsch-laptop.local> In-Reply-To: 4FFB303A.3080304@redhat.com --===============7067638092795994603== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D-1TpAFIbwyvY0+s4L14k4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Montag, den 09.07.2012, 22:25 +0300 schrieb Itamar Heim: > On 07/09/2012 10:13 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 22:07 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >> On 07/09/2012 01:44 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > >>> On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 07:55 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >>>> On 07/06/2012 09:00 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 18:10 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > >>>>>> On 07/05/2012 02:48 PM, Fabian Deutsch wrote: > >>>>>>> Hey, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I just noted that the public gerrit gitweb page is missing the pu= =3D blic > >>>>>>> git url to a repo. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> E.g.: ovirt-node-tests > >>>>>>> Gitweb page: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3D3Dovirt-node-test= s.=3D git > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Names http and private git url: > >>>>>>> http://gerrit.ovirt.org/p/ovirt-node-tests.git > >>>>>>> ssh://.../ovirt-node-tests.git > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Public git url (git://gerrit.ovirt.org/ovirt-node-tests) is missi= =3D ng. > >>>>>>> It would be nice if this url could also be displayed, as git tran= =3D sport > >>>>>>> is faster than http. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> its the same for all projects, not just ovirt-node-tests. > >>>>>> find me how to configure it and i will... > >>>>> > >>>>> In the gitweb.conf (or the equivalent), set: > >>>>> our @git_base_url_list =3D3D qw(git://gerrit.ovirt.org > >>>>> ssh://gerrit.ovirt.org); > >>>> > >>>> I wish it was that easy... > >>>> gerrit passes its own (for example, you will get the ssh link from > >>>> gitweb if you are logged in to gerrit, etc.). > >>>> and it manipulates git_base_url_list accordingly. > >>>> > >>>> http://code.google.com/p/gerrit/source/browse/gerrit-httpd/src/main/= =3D java/com/google/gerrit/httpd/gitweb/GitWebServlet.java > >>> > >>> Ahh, ok, I have my gitweb config independent of gerrit. Looks like y= =3D ou > >>> need GIT_ANONYMOUS_READ set and a git daemon url set. Looking at [1]= =3D , i > >>> think you need download.scheme=3D3Danon_git and > >>> gerrit.canonicalGitUrl=3D3Dgit://gerrit.ovirt.org set in etc/gerrit.c= on=3D f. > >> > >> wouldn't changing canonicalGitUrl will cause the default one to stop > >> being web based for links? > >> today we have this as the default: > >> canonicalWebUrl =3D3D http://gerrit.ovirt.org > > > > Should be 2 separate entries. > > > > canonicalWebUrl=3D3Dhttp://... > > canonicalGitUrl=3D3Dgit://... >=3D20 > indeed. > done - check it out... Thanks to you too, the link appears now! 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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:45:43 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 4FFCD763.8010402@middleswarth.net --===============7507033463825475012== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "infra" > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:31:15 AM > Subject: Vote on the mission statement. > = > After reviewing all the input and putting it all together this is > what > we ended up with. Please vote if you think we should adopt this as > out > mission statement. If you like please put +1 if you hate put a -1 if > you > aren't sure put a 0. > = > Proposed Mission Statement > = > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and > accepted > professional standards of system administrators. > = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============7507033463825475012==-- From eedri at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 03:58:04 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7800413746865208143==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 03:58:03 -0400 Message-ID: <9903defa-2159-4749-9479-c26733e93381@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFD11F0.2040405@redhat.com --===============7800413746865208143== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Landgraf" > To: "Eyal Edri" > Cc: "Barak Azulay" , infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 8:41:04 AM > Subject: Re: jenkins slaves > = > Hi Eyal, > = > On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > Hi Douglas, > > > > If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to > > infra(a)ovirt.org and request to install it. > ok > > As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that requires > > being a member of the infra team and approval of > > its memebers/trust seeds. > > > > If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, please > > send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some background > > (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). > hum, could you please provide a detailed example? > = Guys, do we have a formal way of accepting new people to the infra team? what should the do, what kind of background the need to provide? is it enough if they work in one the supporting companies? = > > > > for now, please provide the missing rpms you know are failing the > > tests and i'll look into fixing it. > = > Can you please confirm if cherrypy (and all dependencies) is > installed? > (As Dan pointed) > = > > thanks, > > > > Eyal Edri > > > Thanks! > = > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Douglas Landgraf" > >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org > >> Cc: "Barak Azulay" > >> Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 5:29:37 PM > >> Subject: jenkins slaves > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> My name is Douglas Schilling Landgraf, I work for Red > >> Hat to > >> provide improvements for VDSM/oVirt. > >> I have noticed that jenkins vdsm_unit_tests project failed because > >> of > >> a > >> package dependency. > >> If possible, can I have access to jenkins slaves to help maintain > >> this > >> VDSM test project? > >> > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> -- > >> Cheers > >> Douglas > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > = > = > -- > Cheers > Douglas > = >=20 --===============7800413746865208143==-- From dneary at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 04:45:15 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3854404130682282290==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:45:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFD3D18.60603@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 9903defa-2159-4749-9479-c26733e93381@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============3854404130682282290== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 07/11/2012 09:58 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > Guys, do we have a formal way of accepting new people to the infra team? > what should the do, what kind of background the need to provide? > is it enough if they work in one the supporting companies? That's what Karsten, Robert, Mike, Itamar, you and others are working on = at the moment (between the mission statement, the "trust seed", managing = configs with Puppet, and we still need to figure out how we can graduate = involvement and trust so that people not on the team can make positive = contributions and thus build reputation and join the team. Cheers, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============3854404130682282290==-- From eedri at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 04:49:38 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3495605555684227849==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 4FFD3D18.60603@redhat.com --===============3495605555684227849== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Neary" > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:45:12 AM > Subject: Re: jenkins slaves > = > Hi, > = > On 07/11/2012 09:58 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > Guys, do we have a formal way of accepting new people to the infra > > team? > > what should the do, what kind of background the need to provide? > > is it enough if they work in one the supporting companies? > = > That's what Karsten, Robert, Mike, Itamar, you and others are working > on > at the moment (between the mission statement, the "trust seed", > managing > configs with Puppet, and we still need to figure out how we can > graduate > involvement and trust so that people not on the team can make > positive > contributions and thus build reputation and join the team. > = So what should i answer Douglas in meantime until we'll figure this out? = so he won't run away, and we'll have another infra member contributing :) = > Cheers, > Dave. > = > -- > Dave Neary > Community Action and Impact > Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat > Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============3495605555684227849==-- From emesika at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 04:49:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6844848279283833011==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eli Mesika To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Vote on the mission statement. Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 04:49:56 -0400 Message-ID: <02744f0f-ccdf-430a-9419-17f07643030e@zmail13.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFCD763.8010402@middleswarth.net --===============6844848279283833011== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "infra" > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:31:15 AM > Subject: Vote on the mission statement. > = > After reviewing all the input and putting it all together this is > what > we ended up with. Please vote if you think we should adopt this as > out > mission statement. If you like please put +1 if you hate put a -1 if > you > aren't sure put a 0. > = > Proposed Mission Statement > = > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and > accepted > professional standards of system administrators. > = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============6844848279283833011==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Wed Jul 11 05:08:56 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0887759495898520729==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Vote on the mission statement. Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:08:51 +0200 Message-ID: <20120711090850.GY28104@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 4FFCD763.8010402@middleswarth.net --===============0887759495898520729== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:31:15PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > After reviewing all the input and putting it all together this is > what we ended up with. Please vote if you think we should adopt > this as out mission statement. If you like please put +1 if you hate > put a -1 if you aren't sure put a 0. > = > Proposed Mission Statement > = > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and accept= ed > professional standards of system administrators. +1 (though I must admit I had to look tenets up) --===============0887759495898520729==-- From dneary at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 05:24:23 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1548839804111173367==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:24:19 +0200 Message-ID: <4FFD4643.1020605@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFD11F0.2040405@redhat.com --===============1548839804111173367== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Douglas, On 07/11/2012 07:41 AM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: > On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >> If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, please >> send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some background >> (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). > > hum, could you please provide a detailed example? The infrastructure team is working on better enabling people outside the = team to join at the moment (see "Trust seed" and mission statement = threads for more detail) - the general plan is to have the configuration = for all of oVirt's infrastructure managed by Puppet, and to liberally = provide access to interested people (like yourself) who have shown an = ability to correctly identify, characterise and propose a fix for infra = issues. One example relative to me (although I have no desire to be on the infra = team at the moment) is my proposal to modify how we sign people up for = new accounts in the wiki - the current method is to have existing wiki = users add new user accounts, but if you don't know anyone in the project = that doesn't really work. My proposal is to have requests for new wiki = accounts added to a moderation queue - I sourced the module and would be = prepared to check it out on a local instance of MediaWiki, and document = any configuration options we need to do to get it enabled. Basically, do = all the ground work for the sysadmin who will install it. In your case, you helped by pointing out the failing module, and = characterising the problem (missing cherry-py dependency) which made it = easier to fix the problem. From there, it's a small step to have someone say "look good, please go = ahead and fix that - here's how to connect to (whatever resource)". At = least, I hope so! >> for now, please provide the missing rpms you know are failing the >> tests and i'll look into fixing it. > > Can you please confirm if cherrypy (and all dependencies) is installed? > (As Dan pointed) I just checked http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/vdsm_unit_tests/ and it = looks like the dependency issue was taken care of a day or two ago. Can = you confirm that all is well now? Thanks, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============1548839804111173367==-- From mburns at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 08:14:39 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4148886719790148529==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Vote on the mission statement. Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:14:37 -0400 Message-ID: <1342008877.26417.8.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFCD763.8010402@middleswarth.net --===============4148886719790148529== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable +1 = On Tue, 2012-07-10 at 21:31 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > After reviewing all the input and putting it all together this is what = > we ended up with. Please vote if you think we should adopt this as out = > mission statement. If you like please put +1 if you hate put a -1 if you = > aren't sure put a 0. > = > Proposed Mission Statement > = > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and accept= ed > professional standards of system administrators. > = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============4148886719790148529==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 11 10:21:18 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5878807222476184002==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Vote on the mission statement. Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 10:21:16 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFD8BDC.4080109@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFCD763.8010402@middleswarth.net --===============5878807222476184002== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/10/2012 09:31 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > After reviewing all the input and putting it all together this is what = > we ended up with. Please vote if you think we should adopt this as = > out mission statement. If you like please put +1 if you hate put a -1 = > if you aren't sure put a 0. I have 5 +1 and no -1. That is a clear majority of the group. So this = is now our Mission Statement. I will add this to the wiki pages for = Infra later today. > > Proposed Mission Statement > > The oVirt Infra Team is a volunteer effort to provide community > infrastructure services by following the tenets of open source and = > accepted > professional standards of system administrators. > > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============5878807222476184002==-- From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 10:26:41 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5471471015701274436==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:26:32 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFD8D18.4070603@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFD11F0.2040405@redhat.com --===============5471471015701274436== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/10/2012 10:41 PM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: > Hi Eyal, > = > On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >> Hi Douglas, >> = >> If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to = >> infra(a)ovirt.org and request to install it. > ok >> As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that >> requires being a member of the infra team and approval of its >> memebers/trust seeds. >> = >> If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, >> please send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some background = >> (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). > hum, could you please provide a detailed example? Douglas, sorry, you happened to arrive just as we are more formally creating the Infra team, which means we are just figuring out how to give out access, and so forth. Your question is a good one, we need to get that up on our wiki page so it's clear what we mean by contributing to get involved. In the meantime, if we cannot be your eyes-in-the-shell for you ... I'm wondering if you could diagnose with basic user ssh access? I.e., without sudo. Then another of us can do the actual fix, etc. (That also would be an example of contributing, and similar to how we're looking to set things up with limited ssh, Puppet, configs in git, etc.) - - Karsten >> for now, please provide the missing rpms you know are failing >> the tests and i'll look into fixing it. > = > Can you please confirm if cherrypy (and all dependencies) is > installed? (As Dan pointed) > = >> thanks, >> = >> Eyal Edri >> = > Thanks! > = >> = >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Douglas Landgraf" To: >>> infra(a)ovirt.org Cc: "Barak Azulay" Sent: >>> Monday, July 9, 2012 5:29:37 PM Subject: jenkins slaves >>> = >>> Hi, >>> = >>> My name is Douglas Schilling Landgraf, I work for Red Hat to = >>> provide improvements for VDSM/oVirt. I have noticed that >>> jenkins vdsm_unit_tests project failed because of a package >>> dependency. If possible, can I have access to jenkins slaves to >>> help maintain this VDSM test project? >>> = >>> = >>> Thanks! >>> = >>> -- Cheers Douglas >>> = >>> _______________________________________________ Infra mailing >>> list Infra(a)ovirt.org = >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>> = > = > = - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Y0Y2ZIOBq0ODEERAl7YAJ4k8aZk7HAo/zFC9qtmEEAaNBpNhwCfcaUD jlnb7tUTT9bgPKHRpWIq7Ds=3D =3DKcM3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5471471015701274436==-- From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 10:35:31 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0249106808333752272==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:35:18 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFD8F26.8080008@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: bbfe1d22-c5c5-4944-9aa0-ab55f6544d2e@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============0249106808333752272== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2012 01:49 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > = > = > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave Neary" To: infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: >> Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:45:12 AM Subject: Re: jenkins slaves >> = >> Hi, >> = >> On 07/11/2012 09:58 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> Guys, do we have a formal way of accepting new people to the >>> infra team? what should the do, what kind of background the >>> need to provide? is it enough if they work in one the >>> supporting companies? >> = >> That's what Karsten, Robert, Mike, Itamar, you and others are >> working on at the moment (between the mission statement, the >> "trust seed", managing configs with Puppet, and we still need to >> figure out how we can graduate involvement and trust so that >> people not on the team can make positive contributions and thus >> build reputation and join the team. >> = > = > So what should i answer Douglas in meantime until we'll figure this > out? so he won't run away, and we'll have another infra member > contributing :) I tried to tackle that in a reply to him. Basically, he's arrived while we are figuring stuff out, but anything he can do to help without sudo access is a way of contributing. Thus, just asking the initial question is a good step, and if he sticks with the problem until it's resolved, that's another good step. Do that repeatedly on multiple issues, and you are gaining merit. - - Karsten > = > = >> Cheers, Dave. >> = >> -- Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and >> Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 >> = >> = >> _______________________________________________ Infra mailing >> list Infra(a)ovirt.org = >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> = > _______________________________________________ Infra mailing list = > Infra(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Y8l2ZIOBq0ODEERAolfAKC8Wybd7x9qfqDXPDAGztV89rPXuwCfYzSc 5CJbZBzxSBiEovfMFNU3if4=3D =3DHnR0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============0249106808333752272==-- From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 10:38:40 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5748298224564224775==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:38:19 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFD8FDB.6090204@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFD3D18.60603@redhat.com --===============5748298224564224775== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2012 01:45 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > = > On 07/11/2012 09:58 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >> Guys, do we have a formal way of accepting new people to the >> infra team? what should the do, what kind of background the need >> to provide? is it enough if they work in one the supporting >> companies? My vote is that who your employer is shouldn't provide additional merit. Currently, the Board is arranged that way - you can come in as a supporting company and gain a Board set. I understand and generally agree with things for that level, but here where we get things done :) we want to base maintainer status on actual merit. > That's what Karsten, Robert, Mike, Itamar, you and others are > working on at the moment (between the mission statement, the "trust > seed", managing configs with Puppet, and we still need to figure > out how we can graduate involvement and trust so that people not on > the team can make positive contributions and thus build reputation > and join the team. Exactly. Checking the 'Trust seed' thread, my proposal was to accept me making up the first list of project maintainers, and then it's up to the maintainers to decide how to accept new maintainers. As part of that, we're full of ideas on splitting systems up a bit so we can give out sudo in one space without having it spill over to other services. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/Y/b2ZIOBq0ODEERAkxgAKCqBb+54PwwWAVvcw75C9OpilCACQCfZrnD N4afndIlHXOXq10NUJT0tww=3D =3Df0rT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5748298224564224775==-- From dougsland at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 10:57:16 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3258563504528261631==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas Landgraf To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 11:57:09 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFDA255.8000508@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFD4643.1020605@redhat.com --===============3258563504528261631== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/11/2012 05:24 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Douglas, > > On 07/11/2012 07:41 AM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >> On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, please >>> send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some background >>> (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). > > >> hum, could you please provide a detailed example? > > The infrastructure team is working on better enabling people outside = > the team to join at the moment (see "Trust seed" and mission statement = > threads for more detail) - the general plan is to have the = > configuration for all of oVirt's infrastructure managed by Puppet, and = > to liberally provide access to interested people (like yourself) who = > have shown an ability to correctly identify, characterise and propose = > a fix for infra issues. > > One example relative to me (although I have no desire to be on the = > infra team at the moment) is my proposal to modify how we sign people = > up for new accounts in the wiki - the current method is to have = > existing wiki users add new user accounts, but if you don't know = > anyone in the project that doesn't really work. = Agreed > My proposal is to have requests for new wiki accounts added to a = > moderation queue - I sourced the module and would be prepared to check = > it out on a local instance of MediaWiki, and document any = > configuration options we need to do to get it enabled. Basically, do = > all the ground work for the sysadmin who will install it. > > In your case, you helped by pointing out the failing module, and = > characterising the problem (missing cherry-py dependency) which made = > it easier to fix the problem. > > From there, it's a small step to have someone say "look good, please = > go ahead and fix that - here's how to connect to (whatever resource)". = > At least, I hope so! Sure, I will wait the definition, thanks for your feedback! -- = Cheers Douglas --===============3258563504528261631==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 11 12:04:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1010713019763585819==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [RFC] moving services to OpenShift Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:04:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFDA408.2060208@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFB8118.1060206@middleswarth.net --===============1010713019763585819== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/09/2012 09:10 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/09/2012 06:49 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Some of us have been having backchannel discussions of the idea of >> moving oVirt services to OpenShift, specifically: >> >> * WordPress (www.ovirt.org)[1] >> * MediaWiki (wiki.ovirt.org) [2] > I have never used OpenShift so I have no idea how well these will run. One concern is the fact that we will need a plan to move = www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org Thanks Robert >> >> In the future I'd want to add Jenkins and mailman to that list, >> when/if they become possible/available. >> >> The main idea is to off-load the infrastructure work - maintaining the >> server, network, OS, dependencies, etc. We'd have an easy way to share >> responsibilities to the services using git - OpenShift projects are >> maintained in git repositories, and when you commit a change, it >> updates the live website. We'd then be able to take in fixes as pull >> requests, or give direct key'd access to some people to work on parts >> of the infrastructure. > I manage many of my internal system using git. It works well as long = > as you aren't updating the system from other sources at the same time. >> >> What are some other reasons this is a good idea? > The git part is very powerful. It makes management task much easier. >> >> What are some considerations that might make this a bad idea? > One possible issue is cost. The other question is what limits are = > there to using the wordpress or mediawiki this way. Since I have = > never used the platform not sure what these limits are. >> >> We can discuss in tomorrow's meeting, but should make the decision on >> this mailing list. >> >> - - Karsten >> >> [1] https://github.com/openshift/wordpress-example >> [2] https://github.com/openshift/mediawiki-example >> - -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v. gpg: AD0E0C41 >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iD8DBQFP+2AQ2ZIOBq0ODEERAso9AKDV+NrEJjWFNd7WEuGDBLnUHR9mGQCeIVwY >> oJfX35xtJZdb9nTgnusZfAY=3D >> =3DeCES >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============1010713019763585819==-- From dougsland at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 12:09:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6949163885328950628==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas Landgraf To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 13:08:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFDB326.1050500@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFD8D18.4070603@redhat.com --===============6949163885328950628== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Karsten, On 07/11/2012 10:26 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/10/2012 10:41 PM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >> Hi Eyal, >> >> On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> Hi Douglas, >>> >>> If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to >>> infra(a)ovirt.org and request to install it. >> ok >>> As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that >>> requires being a member of the infra team and approval of its >>> memebers/trust seeds. >>> >>> If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, >>> please send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some background >>> (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). >> hum, could you please provide a detailed example? > Douglas, sorry, you happened to arrive just as we are more formally > creating the Infra team, which means we are just figuring out how to > give out access, and so forth. Your question is a good one, we need to > get that up on our wiki page so it's clear what we mean by > contributing to get involved. Thanks for the feedback. If I could suggest a possible evaluation for = cases like mine (which require shell access): * This person contain contributions in the upstream project? (git log, = wiki, QA, documentation, etc. Could help to determine) * The upstream maintainer of project [agree/trust] with that? (need to = contact maintainer) > > In the meantime, if we cannot be your eyes-in-the-shell for you ... > I'm wondering if you could diagnose with basic user ssh access? I.e., > without sudo. > Then another of us can do the actual fix, etc. (That > also would be an example of contributing, and similar to how we're > looking to set things up with limited ssh, Puppet, configs in git, etc.) It could be a good start. However, still require contact additional = people (not good for quick fixes). Thanks! --===============6949163885328950628==-- From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 12:09:44 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1791181592971507052==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [RFC] moving services to OpenShift Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:09:42 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFDA546.5040900@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFDA408.2060208@middleswarth.net --===============1791181592971507052== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2012 09:04 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/09/2012 09:10 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >>> I have never used OpenShift so I have no idea how well these >>> will run. It has a model similar to other platform services (PaaS): 1. Creating an app starts a local git repo 2. Drop code (e.g. MediaWiki + configurations) in to the git repo directory 3. Commit and push changes 4. Live app is updated We can then take the git repo, host it for ourselves at gerrit.ovirt.org, and call that the canonical. Then other people can assist Infra through patches or pull requests directly in Gerrit. One of the Infra folks makes changes by pulling the latest from Gerrit and pushing it up to the app. Where the configuration includes passwords, we may have to get clever. One idea is to use variables that are replaced with a bash(?) script. Anyone on Infra would have access to the variables file (in private git on the various servers), and would run the script to replace the variables before pushing to OpenShift. (I have no idea if this design would work, but something would.) >> One concern is the fact that we will need a plan to move = >> www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org I'm presuming we can protect the existing inbound links from going to 404 by using clever mod_rewrite/mod_redirect? - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/aVF2ZIOBq0ODEERAurVAJ0VWoQqZzS7a6vdG6Cd8Cwcg92TSgCgkNAn KZgoVRbQF8NaJR0Oa5ZrOKM=3D =3DI+lZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1791181592971507052==-- From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 12:18:23 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4237053935830533031==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:18:20 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFDA74C.1030604@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFDB326.1050500@redhat.com --===============4237053935830533031== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2012 10:08 AM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: > Hi Karsten, > = > On 07/11/2012 10:26 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> = >> On 07/10/2012 10:41 PM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >>> Hi Eyal, >>> = >>> On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>> Hi Douglas, >>>> = >>>> If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to = >>>> infra(a)ovirt.org and request to install it. >>> ok >>>> As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that = >>>> requires being a member of the infra team and approval of >>>> its memebers/trust seeds. >>>> = >>>> If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, = >>>> please send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some >>>> background (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). >>> hum, could you please provide a detailed example? >> Douglas, sorry, you happened to arrive just as we are more >> formally creating the Infra team, which means we are just >> figuring out how to give out access, and so forth. Your question >> is a good one, we need to get that up on our wiki page so it's >> clear what we mean by contributing to get involved. > Thanks for the feedback. If I could suggest a possible evaluation > for cases like mine (which require shell access): > = > * This person contain contributions in the upstream project? (git > log, wiki, QA, documentation, etc. Could help to determine) * The > upstream maintainer of project [agree/trust] with that? (need to = > contact maintainer) Agreed those are valuable. Question is, would that same criteria help get me commit access to ovirt-engine? >> = >> In the meantime, if we cannot be your eyes-in-the-shell for you >> ... I'm wondering if you could diagnose with basic user ssh >> access? I.e., without sudo. Then another of us can do the actual >> fix, etc. (That also would be an example of contributing, and >> similar to how we're looking to set things up with limited ssh, >> Puppet, configs in git, etc.) > It could be a good start. However, still require contact > additional people (not good for quick fixes). Part of what we are doing is looking for the balance that lets us keep services at a professional sysadmin level. We don't want to bog ourselves down with process, but we want some consistency in what to do and how to do it (a process) so those with sudo access are coordinated. Basically, this means Infra needs to provide training materials to people. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/adM2ZIOBq0ODEERApEyAJ9hjCiDV1chcezGzWHWRUzL+RkluwCglr3k /tIHwZ39OXYJc/umENFuoiQ=3D =3DLWte -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4237053935830533031==-- From dougsland at redhat.com Wed Jul 11 14:34:03 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5587698126648527630==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas Landgraf To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:45:44 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFDC9D8.2040703@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFDA74C.1030604@redhat.com --===============5587698126648527630== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Karsten, On 07/11/2012 12:18 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/11/2012 10:08 AM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >> Hi Karsten, >> >> On 07/11/2012 10:26 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 07/10/2012 10:41 PM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >>>> Hi Eyal, >>>> >>>> On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>>> Hi Douglas, >>>>> >>>>> If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to >>>>> infra(a)ovirt.org and request to install it. >>>> ok >>>>> As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that >>>>> requires being a member of the infra team and approval of >>>>> its memebers/trust seeds. >>>>> >>>>> If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, >>>>> please send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some >>>>> background (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). >>>> hum, could you please provide a detailed example? >>> Douglas, sorry, you happened to arrive just as we are more >>> formally creating the Infra team, which means we are just >>> figuring out how to give out access, and so forth. Your question >>> is a good one, we need to get that up on our wiki page so it's >>> clear what we mean by contributing to get involved. >> Thanks for the feedback. If I could suggest a possible evaluation >> for cases like mine (which require shell access): >> >> * This person contain contributions in the upstream project? (git >> log, wiki, QA, documentation, etc. Could help to determine) * The >> upstream maintainer of project [agree/trust] with that? (need to >> contact maintainer) > Agreed those are valuable. Question is, would that same criteria help > get me commit access to ovirt-engine? I am not the right person to answer that question but from my point of = view should apply to the same/similar criteria. However, I see your point of view. :-) Upstream maintainers (ovirt-engine, vdsm) could help to resolve this puzzle. >>> In the meantime, if we cannot be your eyes-in-the-shell for you >>> ... I'm wondering if you could diagnose with basic user ssh >>> access? I.e., without sudo. Then another of us can do the actual >>> fix, etc. (That also would be an example of contributing, and >>> similar to how we're looking to set things up with limited ssh, >>> Puppet, configs in git, etc.) >> It could be a good start. However, still require contact >> additional people (not good for quick fixes). > Part of what we are doing is looking for the balance that lets us keep > services at a professional sysadmin level. We don't want to bog > ourselves down with process, but we want some consistency in what to > do and how to do it (a process) so those with sudo access are > coordinated. > > Basically, this means Infra needs to provide training materials to people. Sure, great. Thanks for your feedback. -- = Cheers Douglas --===============5587698126648527630==-- From danken at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 05:44:41 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1100033528355313730==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dan Kenigsberg To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:44:39 +0300 Message-ID: <20120712094438.GH11982@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFDC9D8.2040703@redhat.com --===============1100033528355313730== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 02:45:44PM -0400, Douglas Landgraf wrote: > Hi Karsten, > = > On 07/11/2012 12:18 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On 07/11/2012 10:08 AM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: > >>Hi Karsten, > >> > >>On 07/11/2012 10:26 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > >>> > >>>On 07/10/2012 10:41 PM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: > >>>>Hi Eyal, > >>>> > >>>>On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>>>>Hi Douglas, > >>>>> > >>>>>If any dependency is missing you can always send an email to > >>>>>infra(a)ovirt.org and request to install it. > >>>>ok > >>>>>As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> that > >>>>>requires being a member of the infra team and approval of > >>>>>its memebers/trust seeds. > >>>>> > >>>>>If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra team, > >>>>>please send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with some > >>>>>background (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). > >>>>hum, could you please provide a detailed example? > >>>Douglas, sorry, you happened to arrive just as we are more > >>>formally creating the Infra team, which means we are just > >>>figuring out how to give out access, and so forth. Your question > >>>is a good one, we need to get that up on our wiki page so it's > >>>clear what we mean by contributing to get involved. > >>Thanks for the feedback. If I could suggest a possible evaluation > >>for cases like mine (which require shell access): > >> > >>* This person contain contributions in the upstream project? (git > >>log, wiki, QA, documentation, etc. Could help to determine) * The > >>upstream maintainer of project [agree/trust] with that? (need to > >>contact maintainer) > >Agreed those are valuable. Question is, would that same criteria help > >get me commit access to ovirt-engine? > I am not the right person to answer that question but from my point > of view should > apply to the same/similar criteria. However, I see your point of view. :-) > Upstream maintainers (ovirt-engine, vdsm) could help to resolve this puzz= le. I'm not sure I understand the puzzle. Technically speaking, a host administer can do everything he wants. We *trust* him not do use his powers unecessarily. Preferably, there should be various levels of permissions - being able to setup Jenkins slaves should not mean automatically being able to `git rm` our repo. Since I've known Douglas for a year or so now, I trust him to never abuse his admin rights. I'm looking forward to see him in the infra team, being able to quickly fix infrastructural problems in our testing framework. Regrads, Dan. --===============1100033528355313730==-- From joachim.jabs at tec-se.com Thu Jul 12 08:58:18 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5934902293885119339==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jabs, Joachim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:57:35 +0200 Message-ID: --===============5934902293885119339== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01CD602D.E808CDCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys, =3D20 as previously offered: =3D20 Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems around ovirt that might arise. The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability and maintainability around the hardware used. =3D20 If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the offer, just ask. =3D20 =3D20 Regards Joachim Jabs / Gestahlt =3D20 =3D20 ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01CD602D.E808CDCA Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi =3D Guys,

 

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Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. = =3D Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have 192 =3D Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems around ovirt = =3D that might arise.

The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and =3D for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about =3D hosting VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for =3D stability and maintainability around the hardware =3D used.

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If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able = =3D to do something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the =3D offer, just ask.

 

 

Regards

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CA4915473442694EB57611D4342EE34C02598FF8@EXCH1SERVER.TSSERVICE.LOC --===============7803818562265199015== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > Hi Guys, > = > = > = > as previously offered: > = > = > = > Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > around ovirt that might arise. > = > The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > and maintainability around the hardware used. > = > = > = > If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do = > something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > offer, just ask. Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a good place to start? -- http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins Cheers - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D =3DEarP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============7803818562265199015==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 12 10:44:50 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4166409824912522333==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:44:44 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFEE2DC.3080203@middleswarth.net> --===============4166409824912522333== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they are = doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since I = don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak the = existing ones to create .rpms? Thanks Robert --===============4166409824912522333==-- From eedri at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 10:55:10 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0079455449152822658==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:55:09 -0400 Message-ID: <53769452-c379-4d32-a10a-dcd96310cc5a@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFEDFCD.7040801@redhat.com --===============0079455449152822658== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM > Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > = > On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > = > > = > > = > > as previously offered: > > = > > = > > = > > Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > > currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > > 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > > around ovirt that might arise. > > = > > The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > > also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > > VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > > and maintainability around the hardware used. > > = > > = > > = > > If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do > > something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > > offer, just ask. > = > Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > = > Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a > good > place to start? -- This is an excellent offer and opportunity. Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB SWAP, eac= h with 4/8 cores each. Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware node shou= ld we use? = > = > http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins > = > Cheers - Karsten > - -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > = > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > = > iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP > PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D > =3DEarP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============0079455449152822658==-- From iheim at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 10:57:37 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7519794361975755347==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:57:33 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFEE5DD.5060504@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 53769452-c379-4d32-a10a-dcd96310cc5a@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============7519794361975755347== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM >> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> >>> >>> as previously offered: >>> >>> >>> >>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im >>> currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have >>> 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems >>> around ovirt that might arise. >>> >>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its >>> also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting >>> VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability >>> and maintainability around the hardware used. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do >>> something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the >>> offer, just ask. >> >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. >> >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a >> good >> place to start? -- > > This is an excellent offer and opportunity. > Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec > and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. > > I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB SWAP, e= ach with 4/8 cores each. > > Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware node sh= ould we use? > considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting resources, = and later analyzing behavior > >> >> http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins >> >> Cheers - Karsten >> - -- >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP >> PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D >> =3DEarP >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> --===============7519794361975755347==-- From eedri at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 10:59:34 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6608361024887778701==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:59:33 -0400 Message-ID: <63dc11c4-e542-4eb2-8d4a-be045a871492@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFEE2DC.3080203@middleswarth.net --===============6608361024887778701== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "infra" > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM > Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 > = > I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they are > doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since > I > don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak the > existing ones to create .rpms? > = currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bugs. = you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? = supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sure they = have = the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc....) = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============6608361024887778701==-- From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 11:38:26 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6571712759557417175==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: jenkins slaves Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:38:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFEEF6E.7070309@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 20120712094438.GH11982@redhat.com --===============6571712759557417175== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/2012 02:44 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 02:45:44PM -0400, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >> Hi Karsten, >> = >> On 07/11/2012 12:18 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>> = >>> On 07/11/2012 10:08 AM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >>>> Hi Karsten, >>>> = >>>> On 07/11/2012 10:26 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>> = >>>>> On 07/10/2012 10:41 PM, Douglas Landgraf wrote: >>>>>> Hi Eyal, >>>>>> = >>>>>> On 07/10/2012 02:53 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Douglas, >>>>>>> = >>>>>>> If any dependency is missing you can always send an >>>>>>> email to infra(a)ovirt.org and request to install it. >>>>>> ok >>>>>>> As for getting access to Jenkins slaves in ovirt -> >>>>>>> that requires being a member of the infra team and >>>>>>> approval of its memebers/trust seeds. >>>>>>> = >>>>>>> If you feel you want to contribute to the oVirt infra >>>>>>> team, please send a request to infra(a)ovirt.org with >>>>>>> some background (team, project, redhat exp,etc...). >>>>>> hum, could you please provide a detailed example? >>>>> Douglas, sorry, you happened to arrive just as we are more = >>>>> formally creating the Infra team, which means we are just = >>>>> figuring out how to give out access, and so forth. Your >>>>> question is a good one, we need to get that up on our wiki >>>>> page so it's clear what we mean by contributing to get >>>>> involved. >>>> Thanks for the feedback. If I could suggest a possible >>>> evaluation for cases like mine (which require shell access): >>>> = >>>> * This person contain contributions in the upstream project? >>>> (git log, wiki, QA, documentation, etc. Could help to >>>> determine) * The upstream maintainer of project [agree/trust] >>>> with that? (need to contact maintainer) >>> Agreed those are valuable. Question is, would that same >>> criteria help get me commit access to ovirt-engine? >> I am not the right person to answer that question but from my >> point of view should apply to the same/similar criteria. However, >> I see your point of view. :-) Upstream maintainers (ovirt-engine, >> vdsm) could help to resolve this puzzle. > = > I'm not sure I understand the puzzle. Technically speaking, a host > administer can do everything he wants. We *trust* him not do use > his powers unecessarily. > = > Preferably, there should be various levels of permissions - being > able to setup Jenkins slaves should not mean automatically being > able to `git rm` our repo. > = > Since I've known Douglas for a year or so now, I trust him to > never abuse his admin rights. I'm looking forward to see him in the > infra team, being able to quickly fix infrastructural problems in > our testing framework. Any puzzle here is merely a matter of timing. We just happen to be forming the initial maintainers of the Infra team project. Those maintainers need to figure out how to add other maintainers. I think the considerations Douglas suggested are good ones to consider in accepting a new maintainer, but I don't think they are the only ones. Just as you would expect me to submit patches to e.g. ovirt-engine before you would give me more commit/control access, we're creating the same kind of thing for the Infra team. That means using Puppet, configurations stored in Gerrit, distributed Jenkins admins, and so forth - ways for people to get things done. Getting things done is at the core of merit-based governance. At the moment, the only way to get things done directly is to run a set of Jenkins slaves, or be given ssh+sudo to one of the existing production hosts. But we can look at giving out limited ssh access, if that helps people like Douglas start getting things done in Infra so he can get the merit with the existing maintainers. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/u9u2ZIOBq0ODEERAphIAKDInY5NuabMOztGFhzlhy3f92QD/QCgwd6M 8VtMlefP4wPgVahkVyZ+++w=3D =3D+L2n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============6571712759557417175==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 11:48:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6207257852932312601==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:48:54 -0400 Message-ID: <1342108134.3145.3.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 63dc11c4-e542-4eb2-8d4a-be045a871492@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============6207257852932312601== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 10:59 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > > To: "infra" > > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM > > Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 > > = > > I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they are > > doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since > > I > > don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak the > > existing ones to create .rpms? > > = > = > currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bugs. = > = > you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? = > supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sure the= y have = > the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc....) = If we want to do that, we should go down a slightly different path. Each project should have a job that makes the source rpm and tarball. Then separate jobs on each of the platforms (fedora, RHEL, ubuntu, etc...) that will take the srpm and/or tarball and generate packages for the distro. Mike > = > > Thanks > > Robert > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============6207257852932312601==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 11:51:02 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6401111267918755369==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:51:00 -0400 Message-ID: <1342108260.3145.5.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FFEE5DD.5060504@redhat.com --===============6401111267918755369== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM > >> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > >>> Hi Guys, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> as previously offered: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > >>> currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > >>> 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > >>> around ovirt that might arise. > >>> > >>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > >>> also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > >>> VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > >>> and maintainability around the hardware used. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do > >>> something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > >>> offer, just ask. > >> > >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > >> > >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a > >> good > >> place to start? -- > > > > This is an excellent offer and opportunity. > > Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec > > and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. > > > > I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB SWAP,= each with 4/8 cores each. > > > > Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware node = should we use? > > > = > considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting resources, = > and later analyzing behavior Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are running various target distros where we can build packages for different distros. Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is running on oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good choice. The slaves generally don't need as much disk. Mike > = > > > >> > >> http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins > >> > >> Cheers - Karsten > >> - -- > >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > >> > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > >> > >> iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP > >> PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D > >> =3DEarP > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============6401111267918755369==-- From eedri at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 12:04:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9087777222133560154==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:04:26 -0400 Message-ID: <00ee233c-45b6-4510-9a31-081c9ba4e7ab@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1342108260.3145.5.camel@mburns-laptop --===============9087777222133560154== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Burns" > To: "Itamar Heim" > Cc: "Eyal Edri" , infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:51:00 PM > Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > = > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > > On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > > >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM > > >> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > > >> > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >> Hash: SHA1 > > >> > > >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > > >>> Hi Guys, > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> as previously offered: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > > >>> currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we > > >>> have > > >>> 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > > >>> around ovirt that might arise. > > >>> > > >>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me > > >>> its > > >>> also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about > > >>> hosting > > >>> VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for > > >>> stability > > >>> and maintainability around the hardware used. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do > > >>> something for you there. If you have any questions regarding > > >>> the > > >>> offer, just ask. > > >> > > >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > > >> > > >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this > > >> a > > >> good > > >> place to start? -- > > > > > > This is an excellent offer and opportunity. > > > Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware > > > spec > > > and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. > > > > > > I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB > > > SWAP, each with 4/8 cores each. > > > > > > Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware > > > node should we use? > > > > > = > > considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting > > resources, > > and later analyzing behavior > = > Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are > running > various target distros where we can build packages for different > distros. > = > Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is running > on > oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good choice. The > slaves > generally don't need as much disk. agreed, especially if it's thin provisioned. = amount of disk space will be determine if we'll want to run multiple jobs o= n each slave so it will require cloning the workspaces, but of course slaves usually require much less space than the master node. > = > Mike > = > > = > > > > > >> > > >> http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins > > >> > > >> Cheers - Karsten > > >> - -- > > >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > > >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > > >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > >> > > >> > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > >> > > >> iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP > > >> PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D > > >> =3DEarP > > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Infra mailing list > > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > >> > > = > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = >=20 --===============9087777222133560154==-- From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 12:06:40 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4916587917260797549==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:06:37 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFEF60D.9040405@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1342108260.3145.5.camel@mburns-laptop --===============4916587917260797549== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/2012 08:51 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> = >>> = >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" To: >>>> infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM = >>>> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins >>>> = > On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: >>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> as previously offered: >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for >>>>>> Jenkins. Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on >>>>>> a cluster (we have 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for >>>>>> providing help with problems around ovirt that might >>>>>> arise. >>>>>> = >>>>>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and >>>>>> for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt >>>>>> and also about hosting VM related infrastructure. This >>>>>> will also be a test for stability and maintainability >>>>>> around the hardware used. >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able >>>>>> to do something for you there. If you have any questions >>>>>> regarding the offer, just ask. > = > Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > = > Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a = > good place to start? -- >>>> = >>>> This is an excellent offer and opportunity. Since we're >>>> talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec and >>>> increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. >>>> = >>>> I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, >>>> 32 GB SWAP, each with 4/8 cores each. >>>> = >>>> Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per >>>> hardware node should we use? >>>> = >>> = >>> considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting >>> resources, and later analyzing behavior > = >> Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are >> running various target distros where we can build packages for >> different distros. +1 Robert - are you interested in working on the package autobuild for RHEL & rebuilds? I figure we have the Fedora expertise already. Anyone know enough to get the Debian/Ubuntu packages building? (Maybe even automate populating an Ubuntu PPA?) Same questions for OpenSUSE. We have a classic chicken-and-egg problem with being of interest to the OpenSUSE. Debian, Ubuntu, etc. communities - we need builds to generate the interest of people who would want to maintain the packages in their downstream distro repo. >> Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is >> running on oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good >> choice. The slaves generally don't need as much disk. Let's keep iterating on the content on http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins, not just the service minimums, but cleaning the setup steps, etc. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/vYN2ZIOBq0ODEERAlwxAJ9DQ63HE7tOvVbDZdOM/b3HJ44a6QCdFsbQ IK74b3u5rsJkxK4kuJKm9zQ=3D =3DI0Jm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4916587917260797549==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Thu Jul 12 12:16:14 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9048120642299340898==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:16:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20120712161606.GZ28104@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 4FFEDFCD.7040801@redhat.com --===============9048120642299340898== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 07:31:41AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > = > > as previously offered: > > = > > Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > > currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > > 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > > around ovirt that might arise. > > = > > The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > > also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > > VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > > and maintainability around the hardware used. > > = > > If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do = > > something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > > offer, just ask. > = > Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > = > Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a good > place to start? -- > = > http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins Actually a jenkins slave only needs a jenkins user with SSH keys installed. You also need some packages, depending on the unit tests that need to be run. java-1.7.0-openjdk-devel for the java ones. VDSM also needs sudo. You should remove a line with requiretty in it and add the following: jenkins =3D NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/yum, /usr/sbin/setenforce /usr/bin/ksflatten= , /usr/bin/livecd-creator, /usr/bin/mount Need to catch my train now, hopefully there I can finish up some documentation and some puppet magic that sets it up for you. --===============9048120642299340898==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 12 19:48:43 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4028353212238790833==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:48:41 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFF6259.1010006@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 63dc11c4-e542-4eb2-8d4a-be045a871492@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============4028353212238790833== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/12/2012 10:59 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >> To: "infra" >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM >> Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 >> >> I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they are >> doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since >> I >> don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak the >> existing ones to create .rpms? >> > currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bugs. > > you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? Yes > supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sure the= y have > the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc....) I am sure there will be a need for some patches but we already know that = oVirt 3.1 can work using EL6. This can wait until we move into 3.2 = development mode but I really want official builds for 3.2 for EL6. I = will go into more details in another reply. > >> Thanks >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> --===============4028353212238790833==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 12 20:50:45 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0295704440102792979==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:50:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFF70DF.90906@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFEF60D.9040405@redhat.com --===============0295704440102792979== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/12/2012 12:06 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/12/2012 08:51 AM, Mike Burns wrote: >> On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >>> On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" To: >>>>> infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins >>>>> >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as previously offered: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for >>>>>>> Jenkins. Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on >>>>>>> a cluster (we have 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for >>>>>>> providing help with problems around ovirt that might >>>>>>> arise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and >>>>>>> for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt >>>>>>> and also about hosting VM related infrastructure. This >>>>>>> will also be a test for stability and maintainability >>>>>>> around the hardware used. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able >>>>>>> to do something for you there. If you have any questions >>>>>>> regarding the offer, just ask. >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. >> >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a >> good place to start? -- >>>>> This is an excellent offer and opportunity. Since we're >>>>> talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec and >>>>> increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. >>>>> >>>>> I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, >>>>> 32 GB SWAP, each with 4/8 cores each. >>>>> >>>>> Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per >>>>> hardware node should we use? >>>>> >>>> considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting >>>> resources, and later analyzing behavior >>> Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are >>> running various target distros where we can build packages for >>> different distros. > +1 > > Robert - are you interested in working on the package autobuild for > RHEL & rebuilds? Yes. I see getting easy access to the auto-builds in repo's as a top = priority. Followed by getting the changes needed to build EL6 into = Jenkins and get those auto-builds. I also would like to get auto-builds = setup for the 3.1 engine so any cheery picked updates will get built and = made available for people without require infra admin time. Create the = same thing for VDSM if / when a branch gets created. We have 2 issues that need resolved to get auto builds into repo's 1) We need additional storage on linode01 or we need to move the repo's = to there own system. 2) We need someone with access to both system to get the scripts to move = the data around. I am sure I could get it done but I would need my = access raised on linode01 and access to the Jenkins Master but this = should be pretty easy once the storage issues is resolved. EL6 builds the steps that we need. 1) We need to incorporate the EL6 patches so we can build the package. = Do we do it using a EL6 specific .spec files or do we use if statements = inside the exist spec? 2) We need to get builds running on some EL6 based hosts. I have a few = small hosts I could kick in but both nodes are just 8 cores / 8G of ram = each. 3) Move the nightly over to the repo for EL6 builds. > I figure we have the Fedora expertise already. Anyone know enough to > get the Debian/Ubuntu packages building? (Maybe even automate > populating an Ubuntu PPA?) Same questions for OpenSUSE. Before we worry about getting them in a PPA we need to worry about = building the packages. This requires more then Just building oVirt = packages we need to build jboss 7.11 packages and depending on the = Debian version we might requires an newer version of PostgreSQL. There = is a lot of packaging that needs to be done to get oVirt running on = Debian based systems. > > We have a classic chicken-and-egg problem with being of interest to > the OpenSUSE. Debian, Ubuntu, etc. communities - we need builds to > generate the interest of people who would want to maintain the > packages in their downstream distro repo. Right now the packing needs is so great it is hard to get anyone = interested into build oVirt into there distro but once you have some = working Debian based packages then other Debian maintainers will pick = them up and incorporate them into there respective Distro's >>> Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is >>> running on oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good >>> choice. The slaves generally don't need as much disk. > Let's keep iterating on the content on http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins, > not just the service minimums, but cleaning the setup steps, etc. > > - - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP/vYN2ZIOBq0ODEERAlwxAJ9DQ63HE7tOvVbDZdOM/b3HJ44a6QCdFsbQ > IK74b3u5rsJkxK4kuJKm9zQ=3D > =3DI0Jm > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra Thanks Robert --===============0295704440102792979==-- From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 21:21:20 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8989972023510759508==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:21:17 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFF780D.30003@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFF70DF.90906@middleswarth.net --===============8989972023510759508== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/2012 05:50 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> We have 2 issues that need resolved to get auto builds into >> repo's 1) We need additional storage on linode01 or we need to >> move the repo's to there own system. We can safely add about 15 GB to that account. I need to find another window of time for that resize and reboot. I'll set it up for tomorrow (Friday) afternoon (Pacific time), which should be quiet everywhere else. >> 2) We need someone with access to both system to get the scripts >> to move the data around. I am sure I could get it done but I >> would need my access raised on linode01 and access to the Jenkins >> Master but this should be pretty easy once the storage issues is >> resolved. Sorry I didn't make it clear, I gave you full sudo access the other day! Please give it a try to make sure it's working. >> Before we worry about getting them in a PPA we need to worry >> about building the packages. This requires more then Just >> building oVirt packages we need to build jboss 7.11 packages and >> depending on the Debian version we might requires an newer >> version of PostgreSQL. There is a lot of packaging that needs to >> be done to get oVirt running on Debian based systems. Right, right, I was forgetting that the darn horse needs to exist before we can attach this cart to it. :) - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/3gN2ZIOBq0ODEERAs59AJ0WlWKUeeh1Tr+lyS3iJ3U4uQkhNwCgloy1 x9GxYI8D+KQizfxbcNAAlZc=3D =3DJmpX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============8989972023510759508==-- From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 21:27:03 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0775718843306158800==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Outage :: www.ovirt.org :: 2012-07-13 2300 to 2330 UTC (7 pm EDT/4 pm PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:26:56 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFF7960.7000300@redhat.com> --===============0775718843306158800== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm back with the rescheduled outage for the www.ovirt.org server. We're filling up the disk on www.ovirt.org, which is expected since it's only 10 GB. I'm going to add 15 GB, which requires a reboot. Prior to the reboot I'll come on IRC and make sure everyone is prepared. The restart should only take a few minutes. The hour window is to give me time to start and finish or rollback if there is a problem. If anyone has done this before on Linode and wants to offer suggestions or hold my hand :) let me know. =3D=3D When =3D=3D 2300 to 2330 UTC date -d "2012-07-13 2300 UTC" =3D=3D Affected services =3D=3D lists.ovirt.org www.ovirt.org/wiki www.ovirt.org/.* ovirtbot (IRC bot) - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/3lg2ZIOBq0ODEERAlP4AJ4hbvBeUNcuoDe0PYPOPjauqc6BZwCdFLGm 3nkaZ1xffyW0T7w4nz7RH8Y=3D =3D2zx3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============0775718843306158800==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 12 23:30:50 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8094392023539629570==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 23:30:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFF9667.5070603@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1342108134.3145.3.camel@mburns-laptop --===============8094392023539629570== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/12/2012 11:48 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 10:59 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >>> To: "infra" >>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM >>> Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 >>> >>> I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they are >>> doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since >>> I >>> don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak the >>> existing ones to create .rpms? >>> >> currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bugs. >> >> you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? >> supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sure th= ey have >> the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc....) > If we want to do that, we should go down a slightly different path. > Each project should have a job that makes the source rpm and tarball. > Then separate jobs on each of the platforms (fedora, RHEL, ubuntu, > etc...) that will take the srpm and/or tarball and generate packages for > the distro. > > Mike Well all the packages are built from a tar file but SPRM wont work for = Debian based systems. On my testing system creating the .tar.gz file = takes like 10 seconds. But having an updated tar.gz file on every = master commit could be useful. Not sure how much having a pre-done src = tar is going to save in actual build time. Although having diff build = packages for each distro makes a lot of since. I am all about steps to = make something happen. I can think of some steps we could go though to = convert the process but at best it would be based on my basic knowledge = you know the current build process and would be best for you to outline = the steps to get the changes in place. What steps do you think are the = best steps to getting the process changed up? Thanks Robert >>> Thanks >>> Robert >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Infra mailing list >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > --===============8094392023539629570==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 23:50:37 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7480939832144788024==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 23:50:34 -0400 Message-ID: <1342151434.26417.31.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFF9667.5070603@middleswarth.net --===============7480939832144788024== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 23:30 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/12/2012 11:48 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 10:59 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" > >>> To: "infra" > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM > >>> Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 > >>> > >>> I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they are > >>> doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since > >>> I > >>> don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak the > >>> existing ones to create .rpms? > >>> > >> currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bugs. > >> > >> you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? > >> supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sure = they have > >> the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc...= .) > > If we want to do that, we should go down a slightly different path. > > Each project should have a job that makes the source rpm and tarball. > > Then separate jobs on each of the platforms (fedora, RHEL, ubuntu, > > etc...) that will take the srpm and/or tarball and generate packages for > > the distro. > > > > Mike > Well all the packages are built from a tar file but SPRM wont work for = > Debian based systems. On my testing system creating the .tar.gz file = > takes like 10 seconds. But having an updated tar.gz file on every = > master commit could be useful. Not sure how much having a pre-done src = > tar is going to save in actual build time. Although having diff build = > packages for each distro makes a lot of since. I am all about steps to = > make something happen. I can think of some steps we could go though to = > convert the process but at best it would be based on my basic knowledge = > you know the current build process and would be best for you to outline = > the steps to get the changes in place. What steps do you think are the = > best steps to getting the process changed up? So my thoughts in general on this (can be applied to any code based sub-project except node): Job 1: build source (done on latest fedora and/or rhel host) generates source tarball generates srpm exports both as artifacts Job 2: Build Fedora 17 RPMs takes srpm artifact from Job 1 uses mock to build F17 RPMs Job 3: Build EL6 RPMs takes srpm artifact from Job 1 uses mock to build EL6 RPMs Job 4-X: Build RPM for Distro XYZ takes either SRPM or tarball depending on distro build distro specific packages As for the code to do each job, I don't know all the ins and outs of building each individual component, but something like a make dist and/or a make srpm should provide the needed artifacts. I also don't know mock very well, but I'm pretty sure it's pretty straightforward for most packages. Potential problems that I see: 1. spec files will need massaging for el6 and f17 diffs 2. will need distro specific spec file equivalents for each distro we support 3. possible missing options to create srpm and src tarball ovirt-node: only really supported on fedora right now. We could possibly build packages for el6 and other distros that contain the fedora based iso, but not sure if that is really useful or not. As for an EL6 based image, that will take some work to figure out as well (and not sure if that's really a major driver at this point or not). Mike > = > Thanks > Robert > = > >>> Thanks > >>> Robert > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Infra mailing list > >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > = > = --===============7480939832144788024==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Fri Jul 13 00:40:23 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5198302030421317705==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:40:20 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFFA6B4.2030306@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1342151434.26417.31.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============5198302030421317705== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/12/2012 11:50 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 23:30 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> On 07/12/2012 11:48 AM, Mike Burns wrote: >>> On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 10:59 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >>>>> To: "infra" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM >>>>> Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 >>>>> >>>>> I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they are >>>>> doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since >>>>> I >>>>> don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak the >>>>> existing ones to create .rpms? >>>>> >>>> currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bugs. >>>> >>>> you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? >>>> supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sure = they have >>>> the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc...= .) >>> If we want to do that, we should go down a slightly different path. >>> Each project should have a job that makes the source rpm and tarball. >>> Then separate jobs on each of the platforms (fedora, RHEL, ubuntu, >>> etc...) that will take the srpm and/or tarball and generate packages for >>> the distro. >>> >>> Mike >> Well all the packages are built from a tar file but SPRM wont work for >> Debian based systems. On my testing system creating the .tar.gz file >> takes like 10 seconds. But having an updated tar.gz file on every >> master commit could be useful. Not sure how much having a pre-done src >> tar is going to save in actual build time. Although having diff build >> packages for each distro makes a lot of since. I am all about steps to >> make something happen. I can think of some steps we could go though to >> convert the process but at best it would be based on my basic knowledge >> you know the current build process and would be best for you to outline >> the steps to get the changes in place. What steps do you think are the >> best steps to getting the process changed up? > So my thoughts in general on this (can be applied to any code based > sub-project except node): > > Job 1: build source (done on latest fedora and/or rhel host) > generates source tarball > generates srpm Can 1 srpm file support Fedora 17, Fedora 18, and EL6? Or will the = build process create 3 srpm files one for each rpm based distro? Still = learning about rpm spec files been in the .deb world for that last 8 years. > exports both as artifacts > Job 2: Build Fedora 17 RPMs > takes srpm artifact from Job 1 > uses mock to build F17 RPMs Job 2.5: Build Fedora 18 RPMs once Fedora starts beta testing? takes srpm artifact from Job 1 uses mock to build F17 RPMs > Job 3: Build EL6 RPMs > takes srpm artifact from Job 1 > uses mock to build EL6 RPMs > Job 4-X: Build RPM for Distro XYZ > takes either SRPM or tarball depending on distro > build distro specific packages > > > As for the code to do each job, I don't know all the ins and outs of > building each individual component, but something like a make dist > and/or a make srpm should provide the needed artifacts. > > I also don't know mock very well, but I'm pretty sure it's pretty > straightforward for most packages. > > Potential problems that I see: > > 1. spec files will need massaging for el6 and f17 diffs Can one spec file be used or will we need one for F17, F18, EL6? > 2. will need distro specific spec file equivalents for each distro we > support Yep. From what I can see of the format of the engine repo there = shouldn't be any issue in just having debian packaging files in the repo = and just pulling them out for the build process. > 3. possible missing options to create srpm and src tarball > > > ovirt-node: > > only really supported on fedora right now. We could possibly build > packages for el6 and other distros that contain the fedora based iso, > but not sure if that is really useful or not. EL6 builds would be nice not sure how many changes would be needed. = Judging by the fact the current EL6 builds don't build nodes it is more = then trivial. > As for an EL6 based image, that will take some work to figure out as > well (and not sure if that's really a major driver at this point or > not). If we are going to support EL6 it would be nice to have node builds for = it. But time might better spent working on other projects. Thanks Robert > > Mike > > >> Thanks >> Robert >> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Robert >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Infra mailing list >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> > --===============5198302030421317705==-- From mburns at redhat.com Fri Jul 13 00:54:06 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2070074803154006775==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 00:54:03 -0400 Message-ID: <1342155243.26417.38.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFFA6B4.2030306@middleswarth.net --===============2070074803154006775== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 00:40 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/12/2012 11:50 PM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 23:30 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >> On 07/12/2012 11:48 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 10:59 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" > >>>>> To: "infra" > >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM > >>>>> Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 > >>>>> > >>>>> I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they a= re > >>>>> doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since > >>>>> I > >>>>> don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak t= he > >>>>> existing ones to create .rpms? > >>>>> > >>>> currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bu= gs. > >>>> > >>>> you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? > >>>> supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sur= e they have > >>>> the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc.= ...) > >>> If we want to do that, we should go down a slightly different path. > >>> Each project should have a job that makes the source rpm and tarball. > >>> Then separate jobs on each of the platforms (fedora, RHEL, ubuntu, > >>> etc...) that will take the srpm and/or tarball and generate packages = for > >>> the distro. > >>> > >>> Mike > >> Well all the packages are built from a tar file but SPRM wont work for > >> Debian based systems. On my testing system creating the .tar.gz file > >> takes like 10 seconds. But having an updated tar.gz file on every > >> master commit could be useful. Not sure how much having a pre-done src > >> tar is going to save in actual build time. Although having diff build > >> packages for each distro makes a lot of since. I am all about steps to > >> make something happen. I can think of some steps we could go though to > >> convert the process but at best it would be based on my basic knowledge > >> you know the current build process and would be best for you to outline > >> the steps to get the changes in place. What steps do you think are the > >> best steps to getting the process changed up? > > So my thoughts in general on this (can be applied to any code based > > sub-project except node): > > > > Job 1: build source (done on latest fedora and/or rhel host) > > generates source tarball > > generates srpm > Can 1 srpm file support Fedora 17, Fedora 18, and EL6? Or will the = > build process create 3 srpm files one for each rpm based distro? Still = > learning about rpm spec files been in the .deb world for that last 8 year= s. In every case I've come across, yes. > > exports both as artifacts > > Job 2: Build Fedora 17 RPMs > > takes srpm artifact from Job 1 > > uses mock to build F17 RPMs > = > Job 2.5: Build Fedora 18 RPMs once Fedora starts beta testing? > takes srpm artifact from Job 1 > uses mock to build F17 RPMs Sure, but F18 RPMs. BTW, with mock, we might even be able to build F17, F18, F*, EL* rpms all on one server. All depends on the mock config files, and fedora has one for EL6, fedora 14-17 and rawhide (18) > = > > Job 3: Build EL6 RPMs > > takes srpm artifact from Job 1 > > uses mock to build EL6 RPMs > > Job 4-X: Build RPM for Distro XYZ > > takes either SRPM or tarball depending on distro > > build distro specific packages > > > > > > As for the code to do each job, I don't know all the ins and outs of > > building each individual component, but something like a make dist > > and/or a make srpm should provide the needed artifacts. > > > > I also don't know mock very well, but I'm pretty sure it's pretty > > straightforward for most packages. > > > > Potential problems that I see: > > > > 1. spec files will need massaging for el6 and f17 diffs > Can one spec file be used or will we need one for F17, F18, EL6? Yes, one spec is fine. Just need to have parts of it conditionalized for F17, F18, EL6... > > 2. will need distro specific spec file equivalents for each distro we > > support > Yep. From what I can see of the format of the engine repo there = > shouldn't be any issue in just having debian packaging files in the repo = > and just pulling them out for the build process. > > 3. possible missing options to create srpm and src tarball > > > > > > ovirt-node: > > > > only really supported on fedora right now. We could possibly build > > packages for el6 and other distros that contain the fedora based iso, > > but not sure if that is really useful or not. > EL6 builds would be nice not sure how many changes would be needed. = > Judging by the fact the current EL6 builds don't build nodes it is more = > then trivial. There was some work done to support Centos in the past, so it might not be too bad. I'll have to look closer though. > > As for an EL6 based image, that will take some work to figure out as > > well (and not sure if that's really a major driver at this point or > > not). > If we are going to support EL6 it would be nice to have node builds for = > it. But time might better spent working on other projects. Agreed, it's lower prio for node than other projects. > = > Thanks > Robert > > > > Mike > > > > > >> Thanks > >> Robert > >> > >>>>> Thanks > >>>>> Robert > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Infra mailing list > >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Infra mailing list > >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > > > = > = --===============2070074803154006775==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Fri Jul 13 01:22:39 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7522433417306088840==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 01:22:35 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFFB09B.8000806@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1342155243.26417.38.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============7522433417306088840== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/13/2012 12:54 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 00:40 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> On 07/12/2012 11:50 PM, Mike Burns wrote: >>> On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 23:30 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >>>> On 07/12/2012 11:48 AM, Mike Burns wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 10:59 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >>>>>>> To: "infra" >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:44:44 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Jenkins and RHEL 6.2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see there are 2 RHEL 6.2 slaves added to Jenkins and I see they a= re >>>>>>> doing something with the engine? What are they actually doing since >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> don't see any artifacts left over? How hard would it be to tweak t= he >>>>>>> existing ones to create .rpms? >>>>>>> >>>>>> currently they are used for running mvn jobs like unit tests/find bu= gs. >>>>>> >>>>>> you mean use them to create RPMs for ovirt-engine? >>>>>> supposing make rpm will work for that, all we'll need is to make sur= e they have >>>>>> the right rpm build packages installed (rpmbuild, make,autoconf,etc.= ...) >>>>> If we want to do that, we should go down a slightly different path. >>>>> Each project should have a job that makes the source rpm and tarball. >>>>> Then separate jobs on each of the platforms (fedora, RHEL, ubuntu, >>>>> etc...) that will take the srpm and/or tarball and generate packages = for >>>>> the distro. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>> Well all the packages are built from a tar file but SPRM wont work for >>>> Debian based systems. On my testing system creating the .tar.gz file >>>> takes like 10 seconds. But having an updated tar.gz file on every >>>> master commit could be useful. Not sure how much having a pre-done src >>>> tar is going to save in actual build time. Although having diff build >>>> packages for each distro makes a lot of since. I am all about steps to >>>> make something happen. I can think of some steps we could go though to >>>> convert the process but at best it would be based on my basic knowledge >>>> you know the current build process and would be best for you to outline >>>> the steps to get the changes in place. What steps do you think are the >>>> best steps to getting the process changed up? >>> So my thoughts in general on this (can be applied to any code based >>> sub-project except node): >>> >>> Job 1: build source (done on latest fedora and/or rhel host) >>> generates source tarball >>> generates srpm >> Can 1 srpm file support Fedora 17, Fedora 18, and EL6? Or will the >> build process create 3 srpm files one for each rpm based distro? Still >> learning about rpm spec files been in the .deb world for that last 8 yea= rs. > In every case I've come across, yes. > >>> exports both as artifacts >>> Job 2: Build Fedora 17 RPMs >>> takes srpm artifact from Job 1 >>> uses mock to build F17 RPMs >> Job 2.5: Build Fedora 18 RPMs once Fedora starts beta testing? >> takes srpm artifact from Job 1 >> uses mock to build F17 RPMs > Sure, but F18 RPMs. Copy and past error :) > > > BTW, with mock, we might even be able to build F17, F18, F*, EL* rpms > all on one server. All depends on the mock config files, and fedora has > one for EL6, fedora 14-17 and rawhide (18) Guess I need to learn more about mock. It would be nice to be able to = build for more version then Just F17. Granted we would have to track = features that are missing in diff builds but people like choice. >>> Job 3: Build EL6 RPMs >>> takes srpm artifact from Job 1 >>> uses mock to build EL6 RPMs >>> Job 4-X: Build RPM for Distro XYZ >>> takes either SRPM or tarball depending on distro >>> build distro specific packages >>> >>> >>> As for the code to do each job, I don't know all the ins and outs of >>> building each individual component, but something like a make dist >>> and/or a make srpm should provide the needed artifacts. >>> >>> I also don't know mock very well, but I'm pretty sure it's pretty >>> straightforward for most packages. >>> >>> Potential problems that I see: >>> >>> 1. spec files will need massaging for el6 and f17 diffs >> Can one spec file be used or will we need one for F17, F18, EL6? > Yes, one spec is fine. Just need to have parts of it conditionalized > for F17, F18, EL6... > >>> 2. will need distro specific spec file equivalents for each distro we >>> support >> Yep. From what I can see of the format of the engine repo there >> shouldn't be any issue in just having debian packaging files in the repo >> and just pulling them out for the build process. >>> 3. possible missing options to create srpm and src tarball >>> >>> >>> ovirt-node: >>> >>> only really supported on fedora right now. We could possibly build >>> packages for el6 and other distros that contain the fedora based iso, >>> but not sure if that is really useful or not. >> EL6 builds would be nice not sure how many changes would be needed. >> Judging by the fact the current EL6 builds don't build nodes it is more >> then trivial. > There was some work done to support Centos in the past, so it might not > be too bad. I'll have to look closer though. That is good to know. I have always liked the node structure but tend = to prefer CentOS so it would be great to have EL6 builds of node. >>> As for an EL6 based image, that will take some work to figure out as >>> well (and not sure if that's really a major driver at this point or >>> not). >> If we are going to support EL6 it would be nice to have node builds for >> it. But time might better spent working on other projects. > Agreed, it's lower prio for node than other projects. > >> Thanks >> Robert >>> Mike >>> >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Robert >>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Robert >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra Thanks Robert --===============7522433417306088840==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Fri Jul 13 11:40:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6956002156101888372==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Propose / Plan to move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add a redirect so the old links works. Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 11:39:56 -0400 Message-ID: <5000414C.6020400@middleswarth.net> --===============6956002156101888372== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and = add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site into = 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using openshift. = Before we make a change like this I would like to hear from everyone if = they think this is a good idea and if you see any issues I am missing? Thanks Robert --===============6956002156101888372==-- From kwade at redhat.com Fri Jul 13 12:10:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1281038758333260676==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Propose / Plan to move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add a redirect so the old links works. Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:10:54 -0700 Message-ID: <5000488E.7090804@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5000414C.6020400@middleswarth.net --===============1281038758333260676== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to > wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki > = > Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site > into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using > openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear > from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any > issues I am missing? I personally have always preferred using a subdomain in this way instead of "everything in www/". The counter argument always made was the concern about how subdomains are geeky, confusing, and unfriendly to people who think every website starts with 'www'. Thus not a technical but cultural issue. I think there are two responses to that argument: * oVirt is more on the geeky end - it's does fairly deep plumbing, and it's ultimately for serious sysadmin work. We can err on the side of geeky and be safe. * The real way people find the wiki is not by typing and guessing subdomain v. subdirectory. It's by having it in the menu on the website, which we will fix. Ultimately, we can separate out the services in to subdomain or subdirectory, both will work from different hosts, etc. From an Infra view, though, I find subdomains easier to work with mentally, in diagrams, when talking about services[1], etc. - - Karsten [1] I'm one of those who often shorthands e.g. 'wiki.ovirt.org' to 'wiki.o.o' in IRC, email, etc. - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQAEiO2ZIOBq0ODEERApoxAJ43rIZ18mwY4EVRSeYORod1hHar/ACeMCFj RXB8zao5CZkFBAfAs0c9cjw=3D =3DiwKh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1281038758333260676==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Fri Jul 13 18:50:45 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5342538225428066982==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Repo structure and the upcoming 3.1 release. Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:50:41 -0400 Message-ID: <5000A641.1030103@middleswarth.net> --===============5342538225428066982== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With 3.1 pending release we should think some about the structure of the = repo's and how we are going to handle the 3.1 release.and the retirement = of the 3.0 builds. I think it would be bad to keep the 3.0 builds in the F16 folder. But I = also don't think we should remove the folder either. This is the time to ask questions. 1) Do we want to make any changes to the layout? 2) How do we want to handle older versions? 3) Do want to keep the beta's around after the stable is moved to 3.1? For now I suggest we do the following. 1) After 3.1 is released we move the stable 3.0 F16 builds in to = archive/3.0/f16 off the release folder. 2) Reserve Nightly for Jenkins builds of 3.2 3) clean out the 3.1 beta's Until we are ready to start testing 3.2 Does anyone else disagree with my idea's? Does anyone else have what the feel is a better plan? Thanks Robert --===============5342538225428066982==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Fri Jul 13 18:56:31 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9206279125296122462==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Repo structure and the upcoming 3.1 release. Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:56:26 -0400 Message-ID: <5000A79A.3070706@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 5000A641.1030103@middleswarth.net --===============9206279125296122462== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/13/2012 06:50 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > With 3.1 pending release we should think some about the structure of = > the repo's and how we are going to handle the 3.1 release.and the = > retirement of the 3.0 builds. > > I think it would be bad to keep the 3.0 builds in the F16 folder. But = > I also don't think we should remove the folder either. > > This is the time to ask questions. > > 1) Do we want to make any changes to the layout? > 2) How do we want to handle older versions? > 3) Do want to keep the beta's around after the stable is moved to 3.1? > > For now I suggest we do the following. > > 1) After 3.1 is released we move the stable 3.0 F16 builds in to = > archive/3.0/f16 off the release folder. > 2) Reserve Nightly for Jenkins builds of 3.2 > 3) clean out the 3.1 beta's Until we are ready to start testing 3.2 > 4) Create a soft link to the latest ovirt-release-x-x.noarch.rpm using = the filename of fedora-ovirt-latest.rpm > Does anyone else disagree with my idea's? > > Does anyone else have what the feel is a better plan? > > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============9206279125296122462==-- From kwade at redhat.com Fri Jul 13 21:02:36 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5852245999351616130==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Outage :: www.ovirt.org :: 2012-07-13 2300 to 2330 UTC (7 pm EDT/4 pm PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:02:34 -0700 Message-ID: <5000C52A.1060804@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFF7960.7000300@redhat.com --===============5852245999351616130== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This outage is now complete. All services have been tested as having come back up successfully. We know have an addition 15 GB of storage to hold us for the immediate future ... barely. Thanks - Karsten On 07/12/2012 06:26 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > I'm back with the rescheduled outage for the www.ovirt.org server. > = > We're filling up the disk on www.ovirt.org, which is expected > since it's only 10 GB. I'm going to add 15 GB, which requires a > reboot. > = > Prior to the reboot I'll come on IRC and make sure everyone is = > prepared. > = > The restart should only take a few minutes. The hour window is to > give me time to start and finish or rollback if there is a > problem. > = > If anyone has done this before on Linode and wants to offer = > suggestions or hold my hand :) let me know. > = > =3D=3D When =3D=3D > = > 2300 to 2330 UTC > = > date -d "2012-07-13 2300 UTC" > = > =3D=3D Affected services =3D=3D > = > lists.ovirt.org www.ovirt.org/wiki www.ovirt.org/.* ovirtbot (IRC > bot) > = > _______________________________________________ Arch mailing list = > Arch(a)ovirt.org http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/arch > = - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQAMUp2ZIOBq0ODEERAszgAKCngaU+rLbQcH9HmtDonmdIOVxJ6wCeK+eo PxvtI/akMRfAft5mZsHuKwo=3D =3DpVrs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5852245999351616130==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Fri Jul 13 22:43:09 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2136344672287192372==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Propose / Plan to move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add a redirect so the old links works. Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:43:03 -0400 Message-ID: <5000DCB7.2050202@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 5000488E.7090804@redhat.com --===============2136344672287192372== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/13/2012 12:10 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to >> wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki >> >> Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site >> into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using >> openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear >> from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any >> issues I am missing? > I personally have always preferred using a subdomain in this way > instead of "everything in www/". > > The counter argument always made was the concern about how subdomains > are geeky, confusing, and unfriendly to people who think every website > starts with 'www'. Thus not a technical but cultural issue. > > I think there are two responses to that argument: > > * oVirt is more on the geeky end - it's does fairly deep plumbing, and > it's ultimately for serious sysadmin work. We can err on the side of > geeky and be safe. > > * The real way people find the wiki is not by typing and guessing > subdomain v. subdirectory. It's by having it in the menu on the > website, which we will fix. > > Ultimately, we can separate out the services in to subdomain or > subdirectory, both will work from different hosts, etc. From an Infra > view, though, I find subdomains easier to work with mentally, in > diagrams, when talking about services[1], etc. Change is complete. The www.ovirt.org/wiki now redirects to = wiki.ovirt.org/ . Enjoy the change. Thanks Robert > - - Karsten > > [1] I'm one of those who often shorthands e.g. 'wiki.ovirt.org' to > 'wiki.o.o' in IRC, email, etc. > > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFQAEiO2ZIOBq0ODEERApoxAJ43rIZ18mwY4EVRSeYORod1hHar/ACeMCFj > RXB8zao5CZkFBAfAs0c9cjw=3D > =3DiwKh > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============2136344672287192372==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Sun Jul 15 12:34:16 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4796645178884015165==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Propose / Plan to move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add a redirect so the old links works. Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:34:07 +0200 Message-ID: <20120715163407.GB28155@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 5000DCB7.2050202@middleswarth.net --===============4796645178884015165== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:43:03PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/13/2012 12:10 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >>I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to > >>wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki > >> > >>Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site > >>into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using > >>openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear > >>from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any > >>issues I am missing? > >I personally have always preferred using a subdomain in this way > >instead of "everything in www/". > > > >The counter argument always made was the concern about how subdomains > >are geeky, confusing, and unfriendly to people who think every website > >starts with 'www'. Thus not a technical but cultural issue. > > > >I think there are two responses to that argument: > > > >* oVirt is more on the geeky end - it's does fairly deep plumbing, and > >it's ultimately for serious sysadmin work. We can err on the side of > >geeky and be safe. > > > >* The real way people find the wiki is not by typing and guessing > >subdomain v. subdirectory. It's by having it in the menu on the > >website, which we will fix. > > > >Ultimately, we can separate out the services in to subdomain or > >subdirectory, both will work from different hosts, etc. From an Infra > >view, though, I find subdomains easier to work with mentally, in > >diagrams, when talking about services[1], etc. > Change is complete. The www.ovirt.org/wiki now redirects to > wiki.ovirt.org/ . Enjoy the change. I fully agree with this and actually typed wiki.ovirt.org many times. --===============4796645178884015165==-- From kwade at redhat.com Sun Jul 15 15:41:44 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9066041863446434852==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Propose / Plan to move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to wiki.ovirt.org and add a redirect so the old links works. Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:41:42 -0700 Message-ID: <50031CF6.9000409@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5000414C.6020400@middleswarth.net --===============9066041863446434852== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2012 08:39 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > I propose we move the wiki from www.ovirt.org/wiki to > wiki.ovirt.org and add redirects to www.ovirt.org/wiki > = > Why this makes since. It will make it easier to break up the site > into 2 servers at some point. Including quaid idea of using > openshift. Before we make a change like this I would like to hear > from everyone if they think this is a good idea and if you see any > issues I am missing? It occurs to me that we should drop a note to arch@ with this information and reasoning. Would you like to do that? - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQAxz22ZIOBq0ODEERAg4QAJ9TDqYyzwixC1OQMAgXq6u9Dcn+4ACfS/xq faeOLr4EVSH5oSV5KwywOHg=3D =3DfpEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============9066041863446434852==-- From danken at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 11:11:00 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6848135165373787230==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dan Kenigsberg To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Meeting minutes Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:10:55 +0300 Message-ID: <20120716151054.GT11982@redhat.com> --===============6848135165373787230== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today we did have a meeting, and discussed the following points: - We need a volunteer to extend vdsm's on-commit hook, so it runs functional tests to. This requires installing vdsm.rpm as well as vdsm-tests.rpm, starting vdsmd service, running the tests, and cleaning the host. Robert M. suggested that we ask infra@ for help in writing and maintaining this test, so here I am, CCing infra(a)ovirt.org. - Saggi is planning a C API library, exposing gobjects, with a rest bridge = (or whatever) for client applications. I'm slightly appauled - I prefered the simpler idea of API.py and REST binding, with which C/whatever clients can interact. - Adam documented the current xmlrpc api, with all its pecularities and horrors. Prefers to keep it as a single document; I think it would be easier to maintain if definition that are specific to an API call sit on top the function definition. It would be harder to forget to update one of them when you change the other. Admitedly, it requires some sed preprocessing in order to extract a single human-readable document out of this scattered info. Saggi votes for Adam. - deepakcs: i just posted VDSM hook example for exploiting native qemu-glusterfs options from VDSM. Wanted to know feedback onthe same and alternative approach - Saggi asks to ping qemu folks about the feature of specifying the full qcow chain BZ#750801. We need it to reduce repository complexity (currently we play with symlinks). - Federico: storage domain v 3 , requires bleeding-edge upstream engine and sanlock. http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Storage_Domain_Versions - probably more stuff that I've forgotten... please reply with more info See ya all! Dan. --===============6848135165373787230==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 14:16:46 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3425471637635429747==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Call for agenda items for 17 July meeting Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:16:43 -0700 Message-ID: <50045A8B.4080104@redhat.com> --===============3425471637635429747== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-17 So far we have: Agenda Welcome new maintainers How to Handle donated hardware Jenkins migration from EC2 - status Push on ovirt-engine RPMs sync to ovirt.org - status All other business What would you like to talk about? One topic we can start in the meeting, if we'd like, is how we're going to take on new maintainers for the project. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBFqL2ZIOBq0ODEERAmN4AKDiGTiBKHTPJ2d3Z98jsGcYW69r7gCcC/k/ k9IKT0iCnXY8rlVfHBEQ7HI=3D =3Dfzs1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============3425471637635429747==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 14:27:35 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1289724355598535744==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:27:33 -0700 Message-ID: <50045D15.9040305@redhat.com> --===============1289724355598535744== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a maintainer of the Infrastructure project. You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: * Mike Burns * Eyal Edri * Itamar Heim * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden * Robert Middleswarth * Ofer Schreiber * Karsten Wade In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer. We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's interested. :) Thanks - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBF0U2ZIOBq0ODEERAtc8AJ92WVcuHPwLfzKdr3rm2BmhSFuO7QCdEbsD 9OxdnzGN5qS8cptPFPBR/Jk=3D =3D/I2H -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1289724355598535744==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Mon Jul 16 14:33:08 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8227160919007751593==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 20:32:44 +0200 Message-ID: <20120716183244.GC28155@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 50045D15.9040305@redhat.com --===============8227160919007751593== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:27:33AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a > maintainer of the Infrastructure project. > > You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you > because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. > But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is > to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know > if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: > > * Mike Burns > * Eyal Edri > * Itamar Heim > * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > * Robert Middleswarth > * Ofer Schreiber > * Karsten Wade I would be interested in becoming an Infra maintainer. Specifically my focus would be on getting puppet going. I have a small PoC which I'd like to expand. Then we have to figure out how much we have to hide and can show. With the preference on showing. --===============8227160919007751593==-- From mgoldboi at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 14:45:28 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8114924369863814849==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Moran Goldboim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:45:26 +0300 Message-ID: <50046146.3070601@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 50045D15.9040305@redhat.com --===============8114924369863814849== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/16/2012 09:27 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a > maintainer of the Infrastructure project. > > You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you > because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. > But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is > to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know > if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: > > * Mike Burns > * Eyal Edri > * Itamar Heim > * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > * Robert Middleswarth > * Ofer Schreiber > * Karsten Wade > > In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person > to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been > doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, > and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer. > > We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we > do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's > interested. :) Please don't make it sound like boot-camp ;) , I imagine I can start = being involved more on infra work on the front stage as well. no pressure on my side - take the time to decide. > Thanks - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFQBF0U2ZIOBq0ODEERAtc8AJ92WVcuHPwLfzKdr3rm2BmhSFuO7QCdEbsD > 9OxdnzGN5qS8cptPFPBR/Jk=3D > =3D/I2H > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============8114924369863814849==-- From jdbjunior at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 14:47:52 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4741897164299309911==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jdbjunior at gmail.com To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Help the team, starting as an apprentice. Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:47:31 -0300 Message-ID: --===============4741897164299309911== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, I'm Jos=C3=A9 Donizetti a brazilian software developer. And got really interested on the oVirt project. Would like to learn more, and help the team. What do I do to be start as an apprentice? Thanks. --===============4741897164299309911==-- From eedri at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 15:27:35 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0434040910195574311==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:27:35 -0400 Message-ID: <0934e66c-7e9f-45e3-b4c6-42b4a081fefc@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 50045D15.9040305@redhat.com --===============0434040910195574311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > To: "infra" > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:33 PM > Subject: Maintainers list > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > = > I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a > maintainer of the Infrastructure project. > = > You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you > because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and > capability. Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of being an infra maintainer? = > But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader > is > to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know > if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: > = > * Mike Burns > * Eyal Edri > * Itamar Heim > * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > * Robert Middleswarth > * Ofer Schreiber > * Karsten Wade > = > In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person > to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been > doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, > and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer. > = > We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we > do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's > interested. :) > = > Thanks - Karsten > - -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > = > iD8DBQFQBF0U2ZIOBq0ODEERAtc8AJ92WVcuHPwLfzKdr3rm2BmhSFuO7QCdEbsD > 9OxdnzGN5qS8cptPFPBR/Jk=3D > =3D/I2H > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============0434040910195574311==-- From iheim at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 16:53:42 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7216281344742175627==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:53:38 +0300 Message-ID: <50047F52.8030803@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 50045D15.9040305@redhat.com --===============7216281344742175627== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/16/2012 09:27 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a > maintainer of the Infrastructure project. > > You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you > because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. > But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is > to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know > if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: > > * Mike Burns > * Eyal Edri > * Itamar Heim > * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > * Robert Middleswarth > * Ofer Schreiber > * Karsten Wade > > In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person > to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been > doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, > and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer. > > We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we > do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's > interested. :) I can continue taking care of current EC2 instances till we get rid of = them and upstream gerrit, but i don't expect i will have the time for = ongoing maint --===============7216281344742175627==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Mon Jul 16 17:56:03 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5726400931007431425==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 17:56:01 -0400 Message-ID: <50048DF1.7050401@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 0934e66c-7e9f-45e3-b4c6-42b4a081fefc@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============5726400931007431425== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/16/2012 03:27 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" >> To: "infra" >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:27:33 PM >> Subject: Maintainers list >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a >> maintainer of the Infrastructure project. >> >> You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you >> because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and >> capability. > Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of being an > infra maintainer? That is a good question something I bet no one has sat down and though = about. My personal view is you should make a commitment to attending = the weekly meeting outside of that I haven't seen any hard requirements = other then helping out and make sure everything runs well. At some = point we are going to need to define the role more clearly but as of = right now it is pretty vague. Thanks Robert > > >> But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader >> is >> to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know >> if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: >> >> * Mike Burns >> * Eyal Edri >> * Itamar Heim >> * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden >> * Robert Middleswarth >> * Ofer Schreiber >> * Karsten Wade >> >> In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person >> to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been >> doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, >> and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer. >> >> We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we >> do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's >> interested. :) >> >> Thanks - Karsten >> - -- >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iD8DBQFQBF0U2ZIOBq0ODEERAtc8AJ92WVcuHPwLfzKdr3rm2BmhSFuO7QCdEbsD >> 9OxdnzGN5qS8cptPFPBR/Jk=3D >> =3D/I2H >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============5726400931007431425==-- From iheim at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 17:58:11 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7508604976722751691==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Help the team, starting as an apprentice. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:58:08 +0300 Message-ID: <50048E70.6060301@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: CAODEALkrVeoOzY7m=SCzyNFb8am7TQxi7j_79Eg2k29sj_dO1w@mail.gmail.com --===============7508604976722751691== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/16/2012 09:47 PM, jdbjunior(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hello everyone, I'm Jos=C3=A9 Donizetti a brazilian software developer. A= nd > got really interested on the oVirt project. > Would like to learn more, and help the team. What do I do to be start > as an apprentice? > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > Hi Jose, the infra team is about maintaing the ovirt infrastrcture (wiki, = servers, gerrit, jenkins, etc.) for code, best would be to choose one of the projects and join its list = (engine-devel, vdsm, ovirt-node, etc.[1] usually, after setting up a devel environment, you would try one of the = bugs flagged as an easyfix[2] good luck and welcome aboard, Itamar [1] http://www.ovirt.org/project/subprojects/ [2] http://tinyurl.com/6tsrrfk --===============7508604976722751691==-- From iheim at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 18:28:45 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7031696125821097609==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: no [infra] prefix on infra mailing list emails Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:28:42 +0300 Message-ID: <5004959A.1050201@redhat.com> --===============7031696125821097609== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable most mailing lists i use prefix subject of emails with [mailing-list-name]. infra mailing list is missing this prefix. my +1 to add it to infra mailing list, and asking others for their comments. thanks, Itamar --===============7031696125821097609==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 18:49:25 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6604221824673790805==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Meeting minutes Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 15:49:17 -0700 Message-ID: <50049A6D.9050305@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 20120716151054.GT11982@redhat.com --===============6604221824673790805== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2012 08:10 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > Today we did have a meeting, and discussed the following points: > = > - We need a volunteer to extend vdsm's on-commit hook, so it runs > functional tests to. This requires installing vdsm.rpm as well as > vdsm-tests.rpm, starting vdsmd service, running the tests, and > cleaning the host. > = > Robert M. suggested that we ask infra@ for help in writing and > maintaining this test, so here I am, CCing infra(a)ovirt.org. We don't have a task tracking process other than this: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_task_list#One_time_tasks Perhaps this task is something a new person could work on as a way to start contributing? > - probably more stuff that I've forgotten... please reply with more > info Even though you are conducting your meeting on the phone, you can use ovirtbot in #ovirt to record the meeting notes. People participating in the call can write #info, #action, #topics, and so forth back to the IRC channel. This makes it easier to track what was said/agreed to, and you can try to capture some of the reasoning. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBJpt2ZIOBq0ODEERAvvSAJ99sDWiZ/l0afD3Ng0YgA/rxMds8ACgnPxS /XmVwkOyK9Giogj3RwWFq28=3D =3DVzqa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============6604221824673790805==-- From mburns at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 21:56:55 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2025175910394869634==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:56:53 -0400 Message-ID: <1342490213.6902.35.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 50045D15.9040305@redhat.com --===============2025175910394869634== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 11:27 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > I'm asking the following people if you are interested in being a > maintainer of the Infrastructure project. > = > You are under no obligation to accept this request. I'm inviting you > because you've shown continuous interest, helpfulness, and capability. > But I know we are all busy, and sometimes the mark of a good leader is > to know when to say no to a leadership opportunity. Just let me know > if you'd like to be an Infra maintainer or not: > = > * Mike Burns > * Eyal Edri > * Itamar Heim > * Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > * Robert Middleswarth > * Ofer Schreiber > * Karsten Wade > = > In addition, I'd like to invite Moran Goldboim to be the first person > to join us as a candidate for becoming a maintainer. Moran has been > doing infra work behind the scenes, so is only known to a few of us, > and he has recently expressed interest in being an Infra maintainer. > = > We haven't defined how to become a maintainer ... yet ... but when we > do, Moran can be the first person to go through the process, if he's > interested. :) I'll take on a limited role here. I'll attend the meetings and give feedback, as well as help if/when problems come up. I've also functioned (at times) as a backup for Ofer in the Release Manager role, and will continue with that. I'm unlikely to have time to be very involved in creating new infrastructure or deploying anything new though. Mike > = > Thanks - Karsten > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============2025175910394869634==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 16 21:57:25 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1388592223157861104==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:57:22 -0700 Message-ID: <5004C682.3090704@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 0934e66c-7e9f-45e3-b4c6-42b4a081fefc@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============1388592223157861104== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/16/2012 12:27 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > = >> Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of >> being an infra maintainer? About meaning: * http://www.ovirt.org/governance/becoming-a-maintainer/ * The Infra team has a growing pool of resources that maintainers get to use to learn new skills and hone existing skills. * If you want to learn professional-level sysadmin practices, and possibly mentor others in the practices you are familiar or expert in, you can do this on the Infra team in casual through mission-critical rolls that don't have the stress associated with $dayjob. * If you care about how oVirt infrastructure is built and maintained, being a maintainer gives you full voting rights and the keys to do things that matter to you. * Finally, you might want to influence the overall direction of oVirt from a seat on the Board. That requires being active in contributing to more than one area of the project, and Infra could be one of them. About time commitment, ultimately, time will tell. Also, if we're good at our jobs, we invest time up front to save time in the future. Based on my experience and guesses, I'd say: * 1 hour a week for the regular meeting * 30+ to 90+ minutes a week to read and respond to email * 0+ hours per week to tend to whatever maintenance you have volunteered for. * 0+ hours per week to work on new Infra projects/efforts ** Actual projects may take from 2 to 16 hours for an individual effort; if it's more than that, we should be looking at splitting up the work or simplifying the project. * 1+ hour per month to mentor new and existing Infra members I wouldn't expect every person to have a fixed schedule of activities beyond the meetings - some of you will want that, some won't. Still, being a maintainer means doing things. Helping with planned and unplanned service outages, upgrades, new services, mentoring, etc. We don't want to burn people out, but we do expect people to be doing things over the course of time. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBMaC2ZIOBq0ODEERAsuQAKCYZdNkDO/tLf6aBq5fYOqqV0X2oACfaIUo EYwxT9DHAZWdFSDLZ1jG8Mc=3D =3DPMPC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1388592223157861104==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 03:53:50 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8428417184806986014==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Maintainers list Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: <9425a07b-7ec1-4c63-a9c2-617760620e32@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5004C682.3090704@redhat.com --===============8428417184806986014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > To: "infra" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:57:22 AM > Subject: Re: Maintainers list > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > = > On 07/16/2012 12:27 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > = > >> Can you elaborate on the meaning and real time commitment of > >> being an infra maintainer? > = > About meaning: > = > * http://www.ovirt.org/governance/becoming-a-maintainer/ > = > * The Infra team has a growing pool of resources that maintainers get > to use to learn new skills and hone existing skills. > = > * If you want to learn professional-level sysadmin practices, and > possibly mentor others in the practices you are familiar or expert > in, > you can do this on the Infra team in casual through mission-critical > rolls that don't have the stress associated with $dayjob. > = > * If you care about how oVirt infrastructure is built and maintained, > being a maintainer gives you full voting rights and the keys to do > things that matter to you. > = > * Finally, you might want to influence the overall direction of oVirt > from a seat on the Board. That requires being active in contributing > to more than one area of the project, and Infra could be one of them. > = > About time commitment, ultimately, time will tell. Also, if we're > good > at our jobs, we invest time up front to save time in the future. > Based > on my experience and guesses, I'd say: > = > * 1 hour a week for the regular meeting > * 30+ to 90+ minutes a week to read and respond to email > * 0+ hours per week to tend to whatever maintenance you have > volunteered for. > * 0+ hours per week to work on new Infra projects/efforts > ** Actual projects may take from 2 to 16 hours for an individual > effort; if it's more than that, we should be looking at splitting up > the work or simplifying the project. > * 1+ hour per month to mentor new and existing Infra members > = > I wouldn't expect every person to have a fixed schedule of activities > beyond the meetings - some of you will want that, some won't. > = > Still, being a maintainer means doing things. Helping with planned > and > unplanned service outages, upgrades, new services, mentoring, etc. We > don't want to burn people out, but we do expect people to be doing > things over the course of time. > = I can continue to maintain the jenkins.ovirt.org instance and its slaves: - update master version + plugins from time to time - handle new job requests = - fix infra errors that arise from time to time - offer new ideas and upgrades to the Jenkins infra. though, I'd love to see more people involved with Jenkins maintenance, as there is a lot of infra and support work to be done there. = Eyal Edri. > - - Karsten > - -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > = > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > = > iD8DBQFQBMaC2ZIOBq0ODEERAsuQAKCYZdNkDO/tLf6aBq5fYOqqV0X2oACfaIUo > EYwxT9DHAZWdFSDLZ1jG8Mc=3D > =3DPMPC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============8428417184806986014==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Tue Jul 17 06:36:48 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1143998468159472821==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Call for agenda items for 17 July meeting Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: <20120717102820.GD28155@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 50045A8B.4080104@redhat.com --===============1143998468159472821== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:16:43AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-17 FYI: since I'm on vacation I won't attend this meeting. --===============1143998468159472821==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 07:03:33 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4781399939542491688==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Call for agenda items for 17 July meeting Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 07:03:32 -0400 Message-ID: <1c842203-ebae-4c88-87f1-57e6dceee1be@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 50045A8B.4080104@redhat.com --===============4781399939542491688== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > To: "infra" > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 9:16:43 PM > Subject: Call for agenda items for 17 July meeting > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > = > http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-17 > = > So far we have: > = > Agenda > = > Welcome new maintainers > How to Handle donated hardware Need to discuss if we can enable gerrit patches for everyone or a limited s= et of users. (don't know if it's possible) It's possible that a malicious user that registered to gerrit.ovirt.org wil= l send a harmful patch that will be picked up by jenkins and run on jenkins slaves, potentially ha= rming them. > Jenkins migration from EC2 - status > Push on ovirt-engine RPMs sync to ovirt.org - status > All other business > = > What would you like to talk about? > = > One topic we can start in the meeting, if we'd like, is how we're > going to take on new maintainers for the project. > = > - - Karsten > - -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > = > iD8DBQFQBFqL2ZIOBq0ODEERAmN4AKDiGTiBKHTPJ2d3Z98jsGcYW69r7gCcC/k/ > k9IKT0iCnXY8rlVfHBEQ7HI=3D > =3Dfzs1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============4781399939542491688==-- From dfediuck at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 08:40:48 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8822968662765618421==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Doron Fediuck To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: no [infra] prefix on infra mailing list emails Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:40:47 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 5004959A.1050201@redhat.com --===============8822968662765618421== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Itamar Heim" > To: "infra" > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:28:42 AM > Subject: no [infra] prefix on infra mailing list emails > = > most mailing lists i use prefix subject of emails with > [mailing-list-name]. > = > infra mailing list is missing this prefix. > = > my +1 to add it to infra mailing list, and asking others for their > comments. > = > thanks, > Itamar +1 Some mail clients will allow better presentation filtering based on $SUBJEC= T. --===============8822968662765618421==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 11:12:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1677036768692185516==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: no [infra] prefix on infra mailing list emails Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:12:54 -0700 Message-ID: <500580F6.7060207@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: a04512b9-732d-404b-b264-e10f0b340332@zmail20.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============1677036768692185516== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/17/2012 05:40 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: > Some mail clients will allow better presentation filtering based > on $SUBJECT. That's interesting, I thought people were perhaps using them for visual filter ("I see that is part of this list by the subject line"), but I didn't know you could get a different presentation filtering. So this would be different than moving it to a folder? Is it something automatic? (I usually use reliable headers, such as x-been-there, for filtering mailing lists, since subject lines are inconsistent. Also, I tend to avoid [Listname] in the subject because it's always a prefix, which shortens how much of the actual subject is visible in the mail client.) - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBYD22ZIOBq0ODEERAvJpAJ9jAgNUpfRSgEy3QqrNqmmHaTX4qACgt6Ui PML8sMbIzlipMLvbwCGkRz8=3D =3DL7Jk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============1677036768692185516==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 11:25:23 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3984218238140854985==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: no [infra] prefix on infra mailing list emails Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 11:25:21 -0400 Message-ID: <1342538721.3356.2.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 500580F6.7060207@redhat.com --===============3984218238140854985== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 08:12 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On 07/17/2012 05:40 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: > = > > Some mail clients will allow better presentation filtering based > > on $SUBJECT. > = > That's interesting, I thought people were perhaps using them for > visual filter ("I see that is part of this list by the subject line"), > but I didn't know you could get a different presentation filtering. So > this would be different than moving it to a folder? Is it something > automatic? It's a mailman setting > = > (I usually use reliable headers, such as x-been-there, for filtering > mailing lists, since subject lines are inconsistent. Also, I tend to > avoid [Listname] in the subject because it's always a prefix, which > shortens how much of the actual subject is visible in the mail client.) I usually use List-id header to filter. There is benefit both ways as mentioned here. I don't have an overly strong opinion either way. Mike > = > - Karsten > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============3984218238140854985==-- From quaid at iquaid.org Tue Jul 17 11:33:30 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4002193623555052495==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten (quaid) Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:33:28 -0700 Message-ID: <500585C8.8090304@iquaid.org> --===============4002193623555052495== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-17-14.00.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-17-14.00.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-17-14.00.log.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #ovirt Meeting =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Meeting started by quaid at 14:00:06 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-17-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary - --------------- * oVirt Infra weekly meeting (quaid, 14:00:15) * Roll call & howdy (quaid, 14:00:33) * Agenda (quaid, 14:03:13) * LINK: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-17 (quaid, 14:03:19) * Welcome new maintainers (quaid, 14:06:29) * How to handle donated hardware/VM hosts (quaid, 14:13:41) * ACTION: eedri to test running jenkins job in parallel on different nodes (eedri1, 14:26:51) * AGREED: Start new Jenkins VMs with basic config and see where the bottlenecks are (quaid, 14:36:57) * ACTION: Getting Puppet running is a top priority (quaid, 14:39:17) * ACTION: Research for service provider for a baremetal host for automation tests and possible Jenkins VM slaves if room (quaid, 14:40:43) * ACTION: quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS (quaid, 14:43:26) * ACTION: Ask on Board and arch@ mailing lists for a baremetal host for automation tests (quaid, 14:47:40) * ACTION: eedri1 bring discussion to infra@ about how to do distributed Jenkins (quaid, 14:57:45) * ACTION: quaid to get eedri1 sudo on linode01.ovirt.org (quaid, 15:06:17) * ACTION: eedri to set up nighly jenkins job to collect lastest stable rpms from all ovirt projects and copy to ovirt.org/$JENKINS_HOME/rpms/$project (eedri1, 15:16:17) * ACTION: discuss on infra@ about security concerns when allowing gerrit patch jobs on jenkins (quaid, 15:23:28) * ACTION: finalize rpms directory structure on ovirt.org, to match Jenkiins/script needs/expectations (quaid, 15:24:14) * ACTION: discuss on infra@ how to distribute builds - baremetal, VMS, etc. (quaid, 15:28:20) * ACTION: may still need a dedicated baremetal host somewhere; quaid is asking around about budget, others can help define what we need & research hosting providers (quaid, 15:29:21) Meeting ended at 15:30:40 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * eedri to test running jenkins job in parallel on different nodes * Getting Puppet running is a top priority * Research for service provider for a baremetal host for automation tests and possible Jenkins VM slaves if room * quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS * Ask on Board and arch@ mailing lists for a baremetal host for automation tests * eedri1 bring discussion to infra@ about how to do distributed Jenkins * quaid to get eedri1 sudo on linode01.ovirt.org * eedri to set up nighly jenkins job to collect lastest stable rpms from all ovirt projects and copy to ovirt.org/$JENKINS_HOME/rpms/$project * discuss on infra@ about security concerns when allowing gerrit patch jobs on jenkins * finalize rpms directory structure on ovirt.org, to match Jenkiins/script needs/expectations * discuss on infra@ how to distribute builds - baremetal, VMS, etc. * may still need a dedicated baremetal host somewhere; quaid is asking around about budget, others can help define what we need & research hosting providers Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * eedri1 * eedri1 bring discussion to infra@ about how to do distributed Jenkins * quaid to get eedri1 sudo on linode01.ovirt.org * quaid * quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS * quaid to get eedri1 sudo on linode01.ovirt.org * may still need a dedicated baremetal host somewhere; quaid is asking around about budget, others can help define what we need & research hosting providers * **UNASSIGNED** * eedri to test running jenkins job in parallel on different nodes * Getting Puppet running is a top priority * Research for service provider for a baremetal host for automation tests and possible Jenkins VM slaves if room * Ask on Board and arch@ mailing lists for a baremetal host for automation tests * eedri to set up nighly jenkins job to collect lastest stable rpms from all ovirt projects and copy to ovirt.org/$JENKINS_HOME/rpms/$project * discuss on infra@ about security concerns when allowing gerrit patch jobs on jenkins * finalize rpms directory structure on ovirt.org, to match Jenkiins/script needs/expectations * discuss on infra@ how to distribute builds - baremetal, VMS, etc. People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * eedri1 (124) * quaid (104) * mburns (54) * RobertM (49) * adamw (8) * ovirtbot (7) * mgoldboi (7) * gestahlt (4) * tjikkun_work (4) * ewoud (2) * ofrenkel (2) * hitvx (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade ..... http://iquaid.org ..... gpg key: AD0E0C41 http://Fairy-TaleFarm.com .......................... 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Sensible local transportation -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBYXI2ZIOBq0ODEERAop7AJ9eDZ2JUxyZHuveVnxyT/E+wUr2+wCgy2PL Z387maqgT18Fgi8EO5KQtpw=3D =3DCLPl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4002193623555052495==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 11:47:14 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4800813431427146201==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: no [infra] prefix on infra mailing list emails Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:47:11 -0700 Message-ID: <500588FF.20106@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1342538721.3356.2.camel@mburns-laptop --===============4800813431427146201== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/17/2012 08:25 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 08:12 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> On 07/17/2012 05:40 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: >> = >>> Some mail clients will allow better presentation filtering >>> based on $SUBJECT. >> = >> That's interesting, I thought people were perhaps using them for = >> visual filter ("I see that is part of this list by the subject >> line"), but I didn't know you could get a different presentation >> filtering. So this would be different than moving it to a folder? >> Is it something automatic? > = > It's a mailman setting Right, the [Listname] in the Subject is configured in Mailman. I was wondering what the mail client presentation filtering is that Doron referred to. > = > I usually use List-id header to filter. There is benefit both ways > as mentioned here. I don't have an overly strong opinion either > way. I personally don't like them and strip them out (Mailman sets it up automatically), but I'm going to vote +0 here because I also get the value of a list name in a Subject when the email goes to the Inbox. (I filter out other lists but e.g. infra@ goes to my inbox, which I do with important lists I focus on throughout the day.) - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBYj/2ZIOBq0ODEERAlBRAJ9KZu1amkcL3f+xdOx/EDq6XCc3pwCghM81 7+NZzqF4z6e5rEOD5FeUzvg=3D =3DgggB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============4800813431427146201==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 11:54:05 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5556380767021935961==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Help the team, starting as an apprentice. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:54:03 -0700 Message-ID: <50058A9B.7060008@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: CAODEALkrVeoOzY7m=SCzyNFb8am7TQxi7j_79Eg2k29sj_dO1w@mail.gmail.com --===============5556380767021935961== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jos=C3=A9, On 07/16/2012 11:47 AM, jdbjunior(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hello everyone, I'm Jos=C3=A9 Donizetti a brazilian software developer. A= nd > got really interested on the oVirt project. > Would like to learn more, and help the team. What do I do to be start > as an apprentice? Thanks for the offer! What can you do? Are you more interested in = infrastructure (this is the infrastructure mailing list), learning about = deploying oVirt, or actually getting down & dirty and into the code? Cheers, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============5556380767021935961==-- From jdbjunior at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:15:45 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3072911975758268028==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jdbjunior at gmail.com To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Help the team, starting as an apprentice. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:15:24 -0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 50058A9B.7060008@redhat.com --===============3072911975758268028== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the anwsers. Well, what I want is to get down & dirty into the code. But as I start reading the code, and testing it I can also support the infrastructure if there's anything to do. I can't be all day long involved but for sure I will put some hours everyday on the project. So if you guys think there are some "easier" tasks that I can help at the infrastructure of the project. Please let me know. Cheers, Jos=C3=A9 Donizetti. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi Jos=C3=A9, > > > On 07/16/2012 11:47 AM, jdbjunior(a)gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, I'm Jos=C3=A9 Donizetti a brazilian software developer. = And >> got really interested on the oVirt project. >> Would like to learn more, and help the team. What do I do to be start >> as an apprentice? > > > Thanks for the offer! What can you do? Are you more interested in > infrastructure (this is the infrastructure mailing list), learning about > deploying oVirt, or actually getting down & dirty and into the code? > > Cheers, > Dave. > > -- > Dave Neary > Community Action and Impact > Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat > Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 > > --===============3072911975758268028==-- From jdbjunior at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 13:30:34 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5330279602672473308==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jdbjunior at gmail.com To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Help the team, starting as an apprentice. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:30:13 -0300 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: CAODEALkz+aEogGRVjQkygByaRRhEcHxwLyL36zn34rTrJL-mYQ@mail.gmail.com --===============5330279602672473308== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, I saw your email about helping with the wiki organization and videos. I don't have the knowledge to help with videos, but for sure I can help with the wiki organization. :) On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:15 PM, jdbjunior(a)gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the anwsers. Well, what I want is to get down & dirty into > the code. But as I start reading the code, and testing it I can also > support the infrastructure if there's anything to do. I can't be all > day long involved but for sure I will put some hours everyday on the > project. So if you guys think there are some "easier" tasks that I can > help at the infrastructure of the project. Please let me know. > > Cheers, > Jos=C3=A9 Donizetti. > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Dave Neary wrote: >> Hi Jos=C3=A9, >> >> >> On 07/16/2012 11:47 AM, jdbjunior(a)gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> Hello everyone, I'm Jos=C3=A9 Donizetti a brazilian software developer.= And >>> got really interested on the oVirt project. >>> Would like to learn more, and help the team. What do I do to be start >>> as an apprentice? >> >> >> Thanks for the offer! What can you do? Are you more interested in >> infrastructure (this is the infrastructure mailing list), learning about >> deploying oVirt, or actually getting down & dirty and into the code? >> >> Cheers, >> Dave. >> >> -- >> Dave Neary >> Community Action and Impact >> Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat >> Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 >> >> --===============5330279602672473308==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 13:41:59 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8197396465082119311==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Help the team, starting as an apprentice. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:41:57 -0700 Message-ID: <5005A3E5.4000603@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: CAODEALkz+aEogGRVjQkygByaRRhEcHxwLyL36zn34rTrJL-mYQ@mail.gmail.com --===============8197396465082119311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jos=C3=A9, On 07/17/2012 10:15 AM, jdbjunior(a)gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the anwsers. Well, what I want is to get down & dirty into > the code. But as I start reading the code, and testing it I can also > support the infrastructure if there's anything to do. I can't be all > day long involved but for sure I will put some hours everyday on the > project. So if you guys think there are some "easier" tasks that I can > help at the infrastructure of the project. Please let me know. I think the first step is to get oVirt up and running. You will need at = least one node, at least one storage node (but it can be local storage), = and one ovirt-engine. If you have the hardware at home, you can follow = along the oVirt "getting started" guide at = http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/File:OVirt-3.0-Installation_Guide-en-US.pdf The next step would be to get the source code and succeed in building = it. The main components of oVirt in terms of source code are the engine = web application and the VDSM component which enables remote control and = monitoring on the nodes. You can get information about compiling these = in the wiki: * http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Building_oVirt_engine * http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Vdsm_Developers Please do stop into the #ovirt IRC channel on OFTC if you have any = questions! Thanks, Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============8197396465082119311==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 13:42:29 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2848773752783735464==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Help the team, starting as an apprentice. Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:42:27 -0700 Message-ID: <5005A403.2050107@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: CAODEAL=jk+QTxgRLzU4WYaCiMY4jn4xUKLtcpvnd6K9MmJZjrg@mail.gmail.com --===============2848773752783735464== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/17/2012 10:30 AM, jdbjunior(a)gmail.com wrote: > Dave, I saw your email about helping with the wiki organization and > videos. I don't have the knowledge to help with videos, but for sure I > can help with the wiki organization. :) Oh, great! Thank you! Dave. -- = Dave Neary Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards Team, Red Hat Phone: +33 9 50 71 55 62 --===============2848773752783735464==-- From iheim at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 17:29:21 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2744617311628212602==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 00:29:17 +0300 Message-ID: <5005D92D.3060207@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 500585C8.8090304@iquaid.org --===============2744617311628212602== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/17/2012 06:33 PM, Karsten (quaid) Wade wrote: > * ACTION: quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS (quaid, 14:43:26) do we want puppet directly, or via something like foreman? --===============2744617311628212602==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 17 18:41:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6138787770077927829==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:40:57 -0700 Message-ID: <5005E9F9.5050001@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5005D92D.3060207@redhat.com --===============6138787770077927829== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/17/2012 02:29 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 07/17/2012 06:33 PM, Karsten (quaid) Wade wrote: >> * ACTION: quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS (quaid, 14:43:26) > = > do we want puppet directly, or via something like foreman? It sounds like we have Puppet expertise in the group, I don't know if anyone knows about Foreman. Looks inclusive, might be a new skill someone wants to tackle. http://theforeman.org/ I presume we could start using Puppet right away, based on existing skills, and transition that work in to Foreman later? Part of this is we want to be sanely rolling out new hosts, and can do that immediately with our Puppet experience. My only concern would be if ramp-up time for Foreman delayed that too long. But if ramp-up is quick or things can be done in parallel, it definitely sounds interesting. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBen52ZIOBq0ODEERAsyOAJ9Cf9ZDdXQFz1O956xtXct531Wg+ACeN5qH 6RTLN2KB3FIxGI266GGWMyU=3D =3DQfg0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============6138787770077927829==-- From eedri at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 03:57:33 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4016341734984294253==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:57:32 -0400 Message-ID: <7b5397c0-cda4-4325-9e33-25a9f59a768a@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5005D92D.3060207@redhat.com --===============4016341734984294253== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Itamar Heim" > To: "Karsten (quaid) Wade" > Cc: "infra" , "Ohad Levy" , "Ey= al Edri" > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:29:17 AM > Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 > = > On 07/17/2012 06:33 PM, Karsten (quaid) Wade wrote: > > * ACTION: quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS (quaid, 14:43:26) > = > do we want puppet directly, or via something like foreman? > = Foreman is great and would benefit the team, but it might be too complex an= d time consuming to maintain at first. And probably no one (besides myself) if familiar with it inside the infra t= eam, so we'll have difficulties adding new people to maintain it. We can start with installing a puppet-master and later add it to a foreman = server. = (unless it's easier to install foreman + puppet as a bundle (single install= er), maybe ohad can shed some light on it.. ) Eyal. --===============4016341734984294253==-- From ohadlevy at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 04:20:19 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8410173325944852306==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ohad Levy To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:20:11 +0300 Message-ID: <500671BB.6080504@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 7b5397c0-cda4-4325-9e33-25a9f59a768a@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============8410173325944852306== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/18/2012 10:57 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Itamar Heim" >> To: "Karsten (quaid) Wade" >> Cc: "infra" , "Ohad Levy" , "E= yal Edri" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:29:17 AM >> Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 >> >> On 07/17/2012 06:33 PM, Karsten (quaid) Wade wrote: >>> * ACTION: quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS (quaid, 14:43:26) >> >> do we want puppet directly, or via something like foreman? >> > > Foreman is great and would benefit the team, but it might be too complex = and time consuming to maintain at first. > And probably no one (besides myself) if familiar with it inside the infra= team, so we'll have difficulties adding new people to maintain it. > We can start with installing a puppet-master and later add it to a forema= n server. > > (unless it's easier to install foreman + puppet as a bundle (single insta= ller), > maybe ohad can shed some light on it.. ) we have a fully automated installer for foreman + puppet master, see = https://github.com/theforeman/foreman-installer#readme This should help you to deploy your infra with no effort, and I would = recommend using it as a starting point regardless if you use foreman or not. in anycase, using foreman just for reporting requires very little = effort, and would probably make sense too. I'll be happy to try and help out in case you decide to deploy it. Ohad --===============8410173325944852306==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Wed Jul 18 05:54:52 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5925974809283184662==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:54:44 +0200 Message-ID: <20120718095444.GE28155@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 5005E9F9.5050001@redhat.com --===============5925974809283184662== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:40:57PM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On 07/17/2012 02:29 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > > On 07/17/2012 06:33 PM, Karsten (quaid) Wade wrote: > >> * ACTION: quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS (quaid, 14:43:26) > > = > > do we want puppet directly, or via something like foreman? > = > It sounds like we have Puppet expertise in the group, I don't know if > anyone knows about Foreman. Looks inclusive, might be a new skill > someone wants to tackle. > = > http://theforeman.org/ > = > I presume we could start using Puppet right away, based on existing > skills, and transition that work in to Foreman later? > = > Part of this is we want to be sanely rolling out new hosts, and can do > that immediately with our Puppet experience. My only concern would be > if ramp-up time for Foreman delayed that too long. But if ramp-up is > quick or things can be done in parallel, it definitely sounds interesting. I have experience with both puppet and foreman. Foreman is a very nice tool. Foreman is basically a nice frontend for puppet combined with deployment. Since we have a diverse environment where we mostly can't directly deploy I think we should just start with puppet for now. Transitioning will be relative easy anyway. --===============5925974809283184662==-- From eedri at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 07:05:16 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2082036889683567331==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:05:16 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 346ed645-3210-4a2e-a573-30bd839a989f@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============2082036889683567331== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the security is= sues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. The problem: In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a patch to any = ovirt project. That code might contain malicious code, malware, harmfull or just not-relat= ed ovirt code that he wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will = be used against one of the jenkins slaves. = The proposed solutions: - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - white-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via comparing to lastest commits = - check if author recent patches were approved in the past? = adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add vdsm gerrit tes= ts. = thoughts? Eyal. --===============2082036889683567331==-- From danken at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 09:20:15 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8117047869002077254==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dan Kenigsberg To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:20:11 +0300 Message-ID: <20120718132010.GC30950@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: ba24c1f1-7d73-4b48-9871-55054507ba89@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============8117047869002077254== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > Hi, > = > Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the security = issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins > to run jobs (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. > = > The problem: > = > In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a patch to an= y ovirt project. > That code might contain malicious code, malware, harmfull or just not-rel= ated ovirt code that he wants to use our resources for it. > Even though we use limited sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit wil= l be used against one of the jenkins slaves. = > = > = > The proposed solutions: > = > - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) > - white-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) > - auto approve patch via comparing to lastest commits = > - check if author recent patches were approved in the past? = > = > adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add vdsm gerrit t= ests. In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed code to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who contributed more than 3 commits over a month ago. However, no trust should be perpetual (passwords get lost, laptops are lost, people go crazy..) so I suggest to have a blacklist of people we no longer trust. It would be easier to maintain such a list as a (locked) wiki page, so peole can see that they are unrusted, and can apeal ("I'm sane today, lemme run stuff on your slaves!"). Note that I don't expect this blacklist to be used in the near future, but when we'd need it, we'd need it fast. So we'd better prepare ahead of time. Regards, Dan. --===============8117047869002077254==-- From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 10:40:49 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5300207371401046256==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:40:41 -0700 Message-ID: <5006CAE9.604@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 20120718132010.GC30950@redhat.com --===============5300207371401046256== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/2012 06:20 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >> Hi, >> = >> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the >> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs >> (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. >> = >> The problem: >> = >> In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a >> patch to any ovirt project. That code might contain malicious >> code, malware, harmfull or just not-related ovirt code that he >> wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited >> sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will be used against >> one of the jenkins slaves. >> = >> = >> The proposed solutions: >> = >> - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - white-listing >> authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via >> comparing to lastest commits - check if author recent patches >> were approved in the past? >> = >> adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add vdsm >> gerrit tests. > = > In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed code > to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who contributed > more than 3 commits over a month ago. This seems like a reasonable approach. Trust people first, and it's fine to have a method to untrust people if the need arises. That shouldn't surprise or disappoint anyone - it's just simple sanity. The alternatives are to build untrust in to the process from the start, which becomes a barrier to getting things done, and perpetuates a culture of untrust. I just remind myself, if someone is going to worm their way in to our trust to run malicious code on our Jenkins instances, there is so much more damage they can do with that trust. Trust is like fertilizer, water, and sunshine in the garden - it makes amazing things grow. :) - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQBsrp2ZIOBq0ODEERAlfyAKDiJCl6RLXVQluAw9hsX9Uc4ftzMgCgjH6G 0Ejk6rXviSMbc+oiKVTjMUs=3D =3D3Hf2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5300207371401046256==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 18 13:00:47 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8323141503143640012==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:00:44 -0400 Message-ID: <5006EBBC.6050701@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 5006CAE9.604@redhat.com --===============8323141503143640012== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/18/2012 10:40 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/18/2012 06:20 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the >>> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs >>> (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. >>> >>> The problem: >>> >>> In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a >>> patch to any ovirt project. That code might contain malicious >>> code, malware, harmfull or just not-related ovirt code that he >>> wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited >>> sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will be used against >>> one of the jenkins slaves. >>> >>> >>> The proposed solutions: >>> >>> - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - white-listing >>> authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via >>> comparing to lastest commits - check if author recent patches >>> were approved in the past? >>> >>> adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add vdsm >>> gerrit tests. >> In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed code >> to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who contributed >> more than 3 commits over a month ago. > This seems like a reasonable approach. Trust people first, and it's > fine to have a method to untrust people if the need arises. That > shouldn't surprise or disappoint anyone - it's just simple sanity. > > The alternatives are to build untrust in to the process from the > start, which becomes a barrier to getting things done, and perpetuates > a culture of untrust. > > I just remind myself, if someone is going to worm their way in to our > trust to run malicious code on our Jenkins instances, there is so much > more damage they can do with that trust. > > Trust is like fertilizer, water, and sunshine in the garden - it makes > amazing things grow. :) I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been attacked by = 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I know and trusted stole = from the company. I need trust to be earned so I +1 on whitelist. With = that said I think getting on the whitelist should be pretty easy. We = are not talking about blocking there commit's we are talking about = should the automated system run test/code against there patch. I am = still learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to flag = commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some way to = create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the user or = reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? Thanks Robert > > - - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFQBsrp2ZIOBq0ODEERAlfyAKDiJCl6RLXVQluAw9hsX9Uc4ftzMgCgjH6G > 0Ejk6rXviSMbc+oiKVTjMUs=3D > =3D3Hf2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============8323141503143640012==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 18 13:01:53 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7761325568193481751==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Minutes :: Infra team meeting 2012-07-17 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:01:52 -0400 Message-ID: <5006EC00.1060009@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 20120718095444.GE28155@bogey.xentower.nl --===============7761325568193481751== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/18/2012 05:54 AM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:40:57PM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> On 07/17/2012 02:29 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: >>> On 07/17/2012 06:33 PM, Karsten (quaid) Wade wrote: >>>> * ACTION: quaid to get puppet.ovirt.org DNS (quaid, 14:43:26) >>> do we want puppet directly, or via something like foreman? >> It sounds like we have Puppet expertise in the group, I don't know if >> anyone knows about Foreman. Looks inclusive, might be a new skill >> someone wants to tackle. >> >> http://theforeman.org/ >> >> I presume we could start using Puppet right away, based on existing >> skills, and transition that work in to Foreman later? >> >> Part of this is we want to be sanely rolling out new hosts, and can do >> that immediately with our Puppet experience. My only concern would be >> if ramp-up time for Foreman delayed that too long. But if ramp-up is >> quick or things can be done in parallel, it definitely sounds interestin= g. > I have experience with both puppet and foreman. Foreman is a very nice > tool. Foreman is basically a nice frontend for puppet combined with > deployment. Since we have a diverse environment where we mostly can't > directly deploy I think we should just start with puppet for now. > Transitioning will be relative easy anyway. "Transitioning will be relative easy anyway." Sold me on Puppet only +1. Thanks Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============7761325568193481751==-- From eedri at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 13:03:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6744540953591140653==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:03:25 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 5006EBBC.6050701@middleswarth.net --===============6744540953591140653== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:00:44 PM > Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins > = > On 07/18/2012 10:40 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 07/18/2012 06:20 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the > >>> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs > >>> (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. > >>> > >>> The problem: > >>> > >>> In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a > >>> patch to any ovirt project. That code might contain malicious > >>> code, malware, harmfull or just not-related ovirt code that he > >>> wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited > >>> sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will be used against > >>> one of the jenkins slaves. > >>> > >>> > >>> The proposed solutions: > >>> > >>> - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - white-listing > >>> authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via > >>> comparing to lastest commits - check if author recent patches > >>> were approved in the past? > >>> > >>> adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add vdsm > >>> gerrit tests. > >> In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed > >> code > >> to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who contributed > >> more than 3 commits over a month ago. > > This seems like a reasonable approach. Trust people first, and it's > > fine to have a method to untrust people if the need arises. That > > shouldn't surprise or disappoint anyone - it's just simple sanity. > > > > The alternatives are to build untrust in to the process from the > > start, which becomes a barrier to getting things done, and > > perpetuates > > a culture of untrust. > > > > I just remind myself, if someone is going to worm their way in to > > our > > trust to run malicious code on our Jenkins instances, there is so > > much > > more damage they can do with that trust. > > > > Trust is like fertilizer, water, and sunshine in the garden - it > > makes > > amazing things grow. :) > I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been attacked > by > 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I know and trusted > stole > from the company. I need trust to be earned so I +1 on whitelist. > With > that said I think getting on the whitelist should be pretty easy. We > are not talking about blocking there commit's we are talking about > should the automated system run test/code against there patch. I am > still learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to flag > commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some way to > create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the user or > reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? > = i've never done this in the past. i assume we'll need to read the author email/name from the gerrit patch (be= fore running the code) wget the whitelist page from ovirt.org and match it.. = or alternatively run git log and search it there... = if there isn't a match, fail the job before running any code. > Thanks > Robert > > > > - - Karsten > > - -- > > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iD8DBQFQBsrp2ZIOBq0ODEERAlfyAKDiJCl6RLXVQluAw9hsX9Uc4ftzMgCgjH6G > > 0Ejk6rXviSMbc+oiKVTjMUs=3D > > =3D3Hf2 > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============6744540953591140653==-- From hrupp at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 13:34:31 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9157871889844591532==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Heiko W.Rupp To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:34:32 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 5006EBBC.6050701@middleswarth.net --===============9157871889844591532== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 18.07.2012 um 13:00 schrieb Robert Middleswarth: > I need trust to be earned so I +1 on whitelist. With that said I think g= etting on the whitelist should be pretty easy. = Isn't that what you usually do on projects - have the first few commits not= directly go to master but being = reviewed by an existing committer and then giving full commit access to a n= ew user? So I think that fits in and fits with what new committers are used to. Many= of them actually would be scared if they got commit access from day 1. Heiko --===============9157871889844591532==-- From mburns at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 13:43:16 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0803099821366333680==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:43:15 -0400 Message-ID: <1342633395.3356.21.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: E7873E66-9DF3-4776-89B5-9BABDF43B97B@redhat.com --===============0803099821366333680== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 13:34 -0400, Heiko W.Rupp wrote: > Am 18.07.2012 um 13:00 schrieb Robert Middleswarth: > = > > I need trust to be earned so I +1 on whitelist. With that said I think= getting on the whitelist should be pretty easy. = > = > Isn't that what you usually do on projects - have the first few commits n= ot directly go to master but being = > reviewed by an existing committer and then giving full commit access to a= new user? > So I think that fits in and fits with what new committers are used to. Ma= ny of them actually would be scared > if they got commit access from day 1. It's not commit access that is being discussed. We're not giving that away easily. Jenkins provides the ability to trigger builds/tests on patch submission (just submission, not commit). A savvy attacker could write a patch that could cause the tests to compromise the jenkins slave machine. The whitelist being proposed is a whitelist for running the build/test based on who submitted the patch. Mike > = > Heiko > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============0803099821366333680==-- From mburns at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 13:45:07 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2815243306769708350==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:45:05 -0400 Message-ID: <1342633505.3356.23.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: dfaa46f5-7350-49c4-9783-1c080edd51c5@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============2815243306769708350== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:00:44 PM > > Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins > > = > > On 07/18/2012 10:40 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On 07/18/2012 06:20 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the > > >>> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs > > >>> (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. > > >>> > > >>> The problem: > > >>> > > >>> In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a > > >>> patch to any ovirt project. That code might contain malicious > > >>> code, malware, harmfull or just not-related ovirt code that he > > >>> wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited > > >>> sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will be used against > > >>> one of the jenkins slaves. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> The proposed solutions: > > >>> > > >>> - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - white-listing > > >>> authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via > > >>> comparing to lastest commits - check if author recent patches > > >>> were approved in the past? > > >>> > > >>> adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add vdsm > > >>> gerrit tests. > > >> In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed > > >> code > > >> to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who contributed > > >> more than 3 commits over a month ago. > > > This seems like a reasonable approach. Trust people first, and it's > > > fine to have a method to untrust people if the need arises. That > > > shouldn't surprise or disappoint anyone - it's just simple sanity. > > > > > > The alternatives are to build untrust in to the process from the > > > start, which becomes a barrier to getting things done, and > > > perpetuates > > > a culture of untrust. > > > > > > I just remind myself, if someone is going to worm their way in to > > > our > > > trust to run malicious code on our Jenkins instances, there is so > > > much > > > more damage they can do with that trust. > > > > > > Trust is like fertilizer, water, and sunshine in the garden - it > > > makes > > > amazing things grow. :) > > I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been attacked > > by > > 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I know and trusted > > stole > > from the company. I need trust to be earned so I +1 on whitelist. > > With > > that said I think getting on the whitelist should be pretty easy. We > > are not talking about blocking there commit's we are talking about > > should the automated system run test/code against there patch. I am > > still learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to flag > > commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some way to > > create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the user or > > reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? > > = > = > i've never done this in the past. > i assume we'll need to read the author email/name from the gerrit patch (= before running the code) > wget the whitelist page from ovirt.org and match it.. = > = > or alternatively run git log and search it there... = > = > if there isn't a match, fail the job before running any code. No, I don't think we want to have failures in the main build job. What about a separate job that verifies the patch submitter, then triggers the build job. Would probably need to pass the GERRIT_REFSPEC variable between the 2 builds somehow. Mike > = > > Thanks > > Robert > > > > > > - - Karsten > > > - -- > > > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > > > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > > > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > > > iD8DBQFQBsrp2ZIOBq0ODEERAlfyAKDiJCl6RLXVQluAw9hsX9Uc4ftzMgCgjH6G > > > 0Ejk6rXviSMbc+oiKVTjMUs=3D > > > =3D3Hf2 > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Infra mailing list > > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============2815243306769708350==-- From eedri at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 15:10:10 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5762169572005491826==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:10:08 -0400 Message-ID: <01439dfd-53d3-4b26-846d-4554953cea89@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1342633505.3356.23.camel@mburns-laptop --===============5762169572005491826== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Burns" > To: "Eyal Edri" > Cc: "Robert Middleswarth" , infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:45:05 PM > Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins > = > On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > > = > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > > > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:00:44 PM > > > Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on > > > jenkins > > > = > > > On 07/18/2012 10:40 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > On 07/18/2012 06:20 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > > > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > >>> Hi, > > > >>> > > > >>> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion > > > >>> the > > > >>> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run > > > >>> jobs > > > >>> (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. > > > >>> > > > >>> The problem: > > > >>> > > > >>> In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a > > > >>> patch to any ovirt project. That code might contain malicious > > > >>> code, malware, harmfull or just not-related ovirt code that > > > >>> he > > > >>> wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited > > > >>> sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will be used > > > >>> against > > > >>> one of the jenkins slaves. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> The proposed solutions: > > > >>> > > > >>> - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - > > > >>> white-listing > > > >>> authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via > > > >>> comparing to lastest commits - check if author recent patches > > > >>> were approved in the past? > > > >>> > > > >>> adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add > > > >>> vdsm > > > >>> gerrit tests. > > > >> In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed > > > >> code > > > >> to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who > > > >> contributed > > > >> more than 3 commits over a month ago. > > > > This seems like a reasonable approach. Trust people first, and > > > > it's > > > > fine to have a method to untrust people if the need arises. > > > > That > > > > shouldn't surprise or disappoint anyone - it's just simple > > > > sanity. > > > > > > > > The alternatives are to build untrust in to the process from > > > > the > > > > start, which becomes a barrier to getting things done, and > > > > perpetuates > > > > a culture of untrust. > > > > > > > > I just remind myself, if someone is going to worm their way in > > > > to > > > > our > > > > trust to run malicious code on our Jenkins instances, there is > > > > so > > > > much > > > > more damage they can do with that trust. > > > > > > > > Trust is like fertilizer, water, and sunshine in the garden - > > > > it > > > > makes > > > > amazing things grow. :) > > > I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been > > > attacked > > > by > > > 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I know and trusted > > > stole > > > from the company. I need trust to be earned so I +1 on > > > whitelist. > > > With > > > that said I think getting on the whitelist should be pretty easy. > > > We > > > are not talking about blocking there commit's we are talking > > > about > > > should the automated system run test/code against there patch. I > > > am > > > still learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to > > > flag > > > commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some way > > > to > > > create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the user > > > or > > > reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? > > > = > > = > > i've never done this in the past. > > i assume we'll need to read the author email/name from the gerrit > > patch (before running the code) > > wget the whitelist page from ovirt.org and match it.. > > = > > or alternatively run git log and search it there... > > = > > if there isn't a match, fail the job before running any code. > = > No, I don't think we want to have failures in the main build job. > What > about a separate job that verifies the patch submitter, then triggers > the build job. Would probably need to pass the GERRIT_REFSPEC > variable > between the 2 builds somehow. of course, the main job won't be touched. i was talking about a new job that will only be used with gerrit patches. and it can fail and give '-1' if the submitter is not authorized. i need to check if we can add an 'error msg' to the user with something like "Sorry, but you're not authorized to send patch to xxxx project, please sen= d a request to infra/devel list"... > = > Mike > = > > = > > > Thanks > > > Robert > > > > > > > > - - Karsten > > > > - -- > > > > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > > > > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > > > > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > > > > > iD8DBQFQBsrp2ZIOBq0ODEERAlfyAKDiJCl6RLXVQluAw9hsX9Uc4ftzMgCgjH6G > > > > 0Ejk6rXviSMbc+oiKVTjMUs=3D > > > > =3D3Hf2 > > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Infra mailing list > > > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > = > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Infra mailing list > > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = >=20 --===============5762169572005491826==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 18 15:17:44 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4379143743873778391==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:17:36 -0400 Message-ID: <50070BD0.3040001@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 01439dfd-53d3-4b26-846d-4554953cea89@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============4379143743873778391== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/18/2012 03:10 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Burns" >> To: "Eyal Edri" >> Cc: "Robert Middleswarth" , infra(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:45:05 PM >> Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins >> >> On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >>>> To: infra(a)ovirt.org >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:00:44 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on >>>> jenkins >>>> >>>> On 07/18/2012 10:40 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>> On 07/18/2012 06:20 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run >>>>>>> jobs >>>>>>> (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The problem: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a >>>>>>> patch to any ovirt project. That code might contain malicious >>>>>>> code, malware, harmfull or just not-related ovirt code that >>>>>>> he >>>>>>> wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited >>>>>>> sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will be used >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> one of the jenkins slaves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The proposed solutions: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - >>>>>>> white-listing >>>>>>> authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via >>>>>>> comparing to lastest commits - check if author recent patches >>>>>>> were approved in the past? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add >>>>>>> vdsm >>>>>>> gerrit tests. >>>>>> In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed >>>>>> code >>>>>> to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who >>>>>> contributed >>>>>> more than 3 commits over a month ago. >>>>> This seems like a reasonable approach. Trust people first, and >>>>> it's >>>>> fine to have a method to untrust people if the need arises. >>>>> That >>>>> shouldn't surprise or disappoint anyone - it's just simple >>>>> sanity. >>>>> >>>>> The alternatives are to build untrust in to the process from >>>>> the >>>>> start, which becomes a barrier to getting things done, and >>>>> perpetuates >>>>> a culture of untrust. >>>>> >>>>> I just remind myself, if someone is going to worm their way in >>>>> to >>>>> our >>>>> trust to run malicious code on our Jenkins instances, there is >>>>> so >>>>> much >>>>> more damage they can do with that trust. >>>>> >>>>> Trust is like fertilizer, water, and sunshine in the garden - >>>>> it >>>>> makes >>>>> amazing things grow. :) >>>> I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been >>>> attacked >>>> by >>>> 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I know and trusted >>>> stole >>>> from the company. I need trust to be earned so I +1 on >>>> whitelist. >>>> With >>>> that said I think getting on the whitelist should be pretty easy. >>>> We >>>> are not talking about blocking there commit's we are talking >>>> about >>>> should the automated system run test/code against there patch. I >>>> am >>>> still learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to >>>> flag >>>> commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some way >>>> to >>>> create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the user >>>> or >>>> reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? >>>> >>> i've never done this in the past. >>> i assume we'll need to read the author email/name from the gerrit >>> patch (before running the code) >>> wget the whitelist page from ovirt.org and match it.. >>> >>> or alternatively run git log and search it there... >>> >>> if there isn't a match, fail the job before running any code. >> No, I don't think we want to have failures in the main build job. >> What >> about a separate job that verifies the patch submitter, then triggers >> the build job. Would probably need to pass the GERRIT_REFSPEC >> variable >> between the 2 builds somehow. > of course, the main job won't be touched. > i was talking about a new job that will only be used with gerrit patches. > and it can fail and give '-1' if the submitter is not authorized. > i need to check if we can add an 'error msg' to the user with something l= ike > "Sorry, but you're not authorized to send patch to xxxx project, please s= end a request to infra/devel list"... I think the idea was to not run until someone can take a look at the = patch. Not reject the patch. Thanks Robert > > >> Mike >> >>>> Thanks >>>> Robert >>>>> - - Karsten >>>>> - -- >>>>> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >>>>> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >>>>> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >>>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>>>> >>>>> iD8DBQFQBsrp2ZIOBq0ODEERAlfyAKDiJCl6RLXVQluAw9hsX9Uc4ftzMgCgjH6G >>>>> 0Ejk6rXviSMbc+oiKVTjMUs=3D >>>>> =3D3Hf2 >>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Infra mailing list >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Infra mailing list >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> >> --===============4379143743873778391==-- From eedri at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 15:44:17 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2077891999322253908==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:43:51 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 50070BD0.3040001@middleswarth.net --===============2077891999322253908== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "Eyal Edri" > Cc: "Mike Burns" , infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:17:36 PM > Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins > = > On 07/18/2012 03:10 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mike Burns" > >> To: "Eyal Edri" > >> Cc: "Robert Middleswarth" , > >> infra(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:45:05 PM > >> Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on > >> jenkins > >> > >> On Wed, 2012-07-18 at 13:03 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" > >>>> To: infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:00:44 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on > >>>> jenkins > >>>> > >>>> On 07/18/2012 10:40 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >>>>> Hash: SHA1 > >>>>> > >>>>> On 07/18/2012 06:20 AM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote: > >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 07:05:16AM -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run > >>>>>>> jobs > >>>>>>> (i.e any code) with every gerrit patch. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The problem: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In theory, any user that is registered to gerrit might send a > >>>>>>> patch to any ovirt project. That code might contain malicious > >>>>>>> code, malware, harmfull or just not-related ovirt code that > >>>>>>> he > >>>>>>> wants to use our resources for it. Even though we use limited > >>>>>>> sudo on hosts, we can't be sure an exploit will be used > >>>>>>> against > >>>>>>> one of the jenkins slaves. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The proposed solutions: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> - black-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) - > >>>>>>> white-listing > >>>>>>> authors (published on ovirt.org?) - auto approve patch via > >>>>>>> comparing to lastest commits - check if author recent patches > >>>>>>> were approved in the past? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> adding dan since he raised this issue when we wanted to add > >>>>>>> vdsm > >>>>>>> gerrit tests. > >>>>>> In my opinion, we can trust anyone who has already contributed > >>>>>> code > >>>>>> to the relevant project. We can even say: someone who > >>>>>> contributed > >>>>>> more than 3 commits over a month ago. > >>>>> This seems like a reasonable approach. Trust people first, and > >>>>> it's > >>>>> fine to have a method to untrust people if the need arises. > >>>>> That > >>>>> shouldn't surprise or disappoint anyone - it's just simple > >>>>> sanity. > >>>>> > >>>>> The alternatives are to build untrust in to the process from > >>>>> the > >>>>> start, which becomes a barrier to getting things done, and > >>>>> perpetuates > >>>>> a culture of untrust. > >>>>> > >>>>> I just remind myself, if someone is going to worm their way in > >>>>> to > >>>>> our > >>>>> trust to run malicious code on our Jenkins instances, there is > >>>>> so > >>>>> much > >>>>> more damage they can do with that trust. > >>>>> > >>>>> Trust is like fertilizer, water, and sunshine in the garden - > >>>>> it > >>>>> makes > >>>>> amazing things grow. :) > >>>> I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been > >>>> attacked > >>>> by > >>>> 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I know and > >>>> trusted > >>>> stole > >>>> from the company. I need trust to be earned so I +1 on > >>>> whitelist. > >>>> With > >>>> that said I think getting on the whitelist should be pretty > >>>> easy. > >>>> We > >>>> are not talking about blocking there commit's we are talking > >>>> about > >>>> should the automated system run test/code against there patch. > >>>> I > >>>> am > >>>> still learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to > >>>> flag > >>>> commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some > >>>> way > >>>> to > >>>> create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the user > >>>> or > >>>> reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? > >>>> > >>> i've never done this in the past. > >>> i assume we'll need to read the author email/name from the gerrit > >>> patch (before running the code) > >>> wget the whitelist page from ovirt.org and match it.. > >>> > >>> or alternatively run git log and search it there... > >>> > >>> if there isn't a match, fail the job before running any code. > >> No, I don't think we want to have failures in the main build job. > >> What > >> about a separate job that verifies the patch submitter, then > >> triggers > >> the build job. Would probably need to pass the GERRIT_REFSPEC > >> variable > >> between the 2 builds somehow. > > of course, the main job won't be touched. > > i was talking about a new job that will only be used with gerrit > > patches. > > and it can fail and give '-1' if the submitter is not authorized. > > i need to check if we can add an 'error msg' to the user with > > something like > > "Sorry, but you're not authorized to send patch to xxxx project, > > please send a request to infra/devel list"... > I think the idea was to not run until someone can take a look at the > patch. Not reject the patch. > = shouldn't be a problem to do that as well, just ignore the patch (i.e not r= un it in jenkins, similar to the status now) > Thanks > Robert > = > > > > > >> Mike > >> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Robert > >>>>> - - Karsten > >>>>> - -- > >>>>> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > >>>>> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > >>>>> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > >>>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > >>>>> > >>>>> iD8DBQFQBsrp2ZIOBq0ODEERAlfyAKDiJCl6RLXVQluAw9hsX9Uc4ftzMgCgjH6G > >>>>> 0Ejk6rXviSMbc+oiKVTjMUs=3D > >>>>> =3D3Hf2 > >>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Infra mailing list > >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Infra mailing list > >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Infra mailing list > >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > >> > = >=20 --===============2077891999322253908==-- From hrupp at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 15:57:04 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8593588427246964014==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Heiko W.Rupp To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 15:57:04 -0400 Message-ID: <1C6C9364-587C-40BE-8F88-89642BB7DA6F@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1342633395.3356.21.camel@mburns-laptop --===============8593588427246964014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 18.07.2012 um 13:43 schrieb Mike Burns: > It's not commit access that is being discussed. We're not giving that > away easily. Jenkins provides the ability to trigger builds/tests on > patch submission (just submission, not commit). A savvy attacker could > write a patch that could cause the tests to compromise the jenkins slave > machine. The whitelist being proposed is a whitelist for running the > build/test based on who submitted the patch. I got that. I am saying that the way for new committers is similar to this whitelisting pattern. Meaning that at the start their contributions are not auto-committed. And then after some time they end up on = a whitelist (=3D=3D commit access). And if they fail a few times miserably, the commit access is revoked. That would match the pattern of not automatically running every submission directly on gerrit until they have proven that they = know what they are doing. -- = Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, = Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 14, D-85630 Grasbrunn Handelsregister: Amtsgericht M=C3=BCnchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsf=C3=BChrer: Mark Hegarty, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, C= harles Cachera --===============8593588427246964014==-- From hrupp at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 16:01:35 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3996531717379264304==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Heiko W.Rupp To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 16:01:35 -0400 Message-ID: <9D8F646F-CEE5-4F2C-85CA-5BF96A6F0503@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1C6C9364-587C-40BE-8F88-89642BB7DA6F@redhat.com --===============3996531717379264304== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 18.07.2012 um 15:57 schrieb Heiko W.Rupp: > That would match the pattern of not automatically running every > submission directly on gerrit until they have proven that they = > know what they are doing. Which is what they are used with not getting full commit access on day 1. -- = Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, = Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 14, D-85630 Grasbrunn Handelsregister: Amtsgericht M=C3=BCnchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsf=C3=BChrer: Mark Hegarty, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, C= harles Cachera --===============3996531717379264304==-- From kwade at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 16:47:31 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9159068601583909014==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:47:27 -0700 Message-ID: <500720DF.2060802@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5006EBBC.6050701@middleswarth.net --===============9159068601583909014== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/2012 10:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been = >> attacked by 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I >> know and trusted stole from the company. I need trust to be >> earned so I +1 on whitelist. With that said I think getting on >> the whitelist should be pretty easy. We are not talking about = >> blocking there commit's we are talking about should the >> automated system run test/code against there patch. I am still >> learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to flag >> commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some way >> to create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the >> user or reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? Perhaps this is just an example of my limited dimensional thinking around SCMs. I tend to think by default, "There should be a well described pathway to committer status. Once achieved, you can commit, that's it." Old school thinking. :) However, I get that more complex infrastructure may have other considerations. In Fedora, for example, things went from a wide open SCM where anyone could commit to any package, to a more segregated system with the idea of an over-packager status that one can attain, which provides the now rare ability to commit to any package. Similarly here, oVirt may say, "Fine, you can commit code to the main git repo, but you have to earn Level Q to be able to kick-off automated testing." I just want us to be careful how we contextualize, too. While trust is one reason we don't give root to everyone, another reason is we want to be sure they know how to be safe and sane in that position. People may need e.g. training or testing that they are not going to accidentally do something that makes Jenkins fall down and cry. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQByDf2ZIOBq0ODEERAp3OAJ9JTiBDnhgW9zRbwD9T17S55FAbeQCg4XaD C1qHTKUnqo6kgixjOUbQ4A4=3D =3D0tIA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============9159068601583909014==-- From iheim at redhat.com Wed Jul 18 18:49:02 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5646011331543094145==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 01:48:59 +0300 Message-ID: <50073D5B.9030901@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 500720DF.2060802@redhat.com --===============5646011331543094145== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/18/2012 11:47 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/18/2012 10:00 AM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >>> I am on the opposite side of this issue. Maybe I have been >>> attacked by 1 to many bot's or been a manager when someone I >>> know and trusted stole from the company. I need trust to be >>> earned so I +1 on whitelist. With that said I think getting on >>> the whitelist should be pretty easy. We are not talking about >>> blocking there commit's we are talking about should the >>> automated system run test/code against there patch. I am still >>> learning Jekins when using a whitelist is there a way to flag >>> commits for users not in the list? I wonder if there is some way >>> to create a list that someone can go though and whitelist the >>> user or reject the user for commits not in the whitelist? > > Perhaps this is just an example of my limited dimensional thinking > around SCMs. I tend to think by default, "There should be a well > described pathway to committer status. Once achieved, you can commit, > that's it." Old school thinking. :) However, I get that more complex > infrastructure may have other considerations. In Fedora, for example, > things went from a wide open SCM where anyone could commit to any > package, to a more segregated system with the idea of an over-packager > status that one can attain, which provides the now rare ability to > commit to any package. Similarly here, oVirt may say, "Fine, you can > commit code to the main git repo, but you have to earn Level Q to be > able to kick-off automated testing." > > I just want us to be careful how we contextualize, too. While trust is > one reason we don't give root to everyone, another reason is we want > to be sure they know how to be safe and sane in that position. People > may need e.g. training or testing that they are not going to > accidentally do something that makes Jenkins fall down and cry. I wouldn't view infra as a single project, rather several sub projects, = each with their own set of skills as each service requires expertise = with a different technology. --===============5646011331543094145==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Fri Jul 20 10:50:04 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6600447327924561048==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Repo layout. We really need to make the call by Tuesday 2012/7/24. Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:50:02 -0400 Message-ID: <5009701A.1070503@middleswarth.net> --===============6600447327924561048== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The current repo layout will have to change some to support the 3.1 = release that might be happening on the 25th. We are going to have to = move stuff around to archive the 3.0 release as well as setup the 3.1 = release in my option we can do it one of two ways. 1) Create an archive = folder and just copy 3.0 to it well we do the 3.1 release and keep the = same structure we have now. 2) Redo the layout to something that will = long term support version and be less confusing to people using the project. Personally I think this is a good time to redesign. The existing 3.0 = repo files are going to break when we move things around for the 3.1 = release and we are going to need to make sure everything is in place. = Since we are going to have to disrupt thing already why not do a full = clean-up instead of just patch the current layout. Our current layout. release/[stable|beta|nightly]/[binary|fedora|RHEL|src]/[16|17|18] I recommend we switching to the following structure. release/[3.0|3.1|3.2|stable|testing]/[nightly|beta|released]/[tools|fedora|= RHEL|src]/[16|17|18|rawhide] With symlinks for stable and testing point to the current version for = each. I also suggest a symlink called release/fedora-ovirt-latest.rpm = that points to the latest ovirt-release-*.rpm file. Inside each version there will be a repo file that enables released = disables beta & nightly. Since each repo file will simple reference everything by version number = each new release wont break old releases. What does everyone think? Thanks Robert --===============6600447327924561048==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Sun Jul 22 18:17:00 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7341293656112862031==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: I Add Repo layout for the upcoming 3.1 release - rmiddle proposal to the Agenda. Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 18:16:58 -0400 Message-ID: <500C7BDA.9050406@middleswarth.net> --===============7341293656112862031== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I copied the open items from last week and created the entry for this = weeks agenda. Anything thing else anyone can think of for this weeks meeting? Thanks Robert --===============7341293656112862031==-- From eedri at redhat.com Mon Jul 23 01:25:39 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6686924805148664885==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: I Add Repo layout for the upcoming 3.1 release - rmiddle proposal to the Agenda. Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 01:25:37 -0400 Message-ID: <595180901.633414.1343021137961.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 500C7BDA.9050406@middleswarth.net --===============6686924805148664885== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "infra" > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:16:58 AM > Subject: I Add Repo layout for the upcoming 3.1 release - rmiddle proposa= l to the Agenda. > = > I copied the open items from last week and created the entry for this > weeks agenda. > = > Anything thing else anyone can think of for this weeks meeting? I think we should open a new project in gerrit for jenkins code. it's bad practise to keep all code inside the jobs (i.e not backed-up, unma= naged, unreviewed). let's talk about the structure of this repo (has been brought in the past) = (separate repo/directory per ovirt project?) = > = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============6686924805148664885==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Mon Jul 23 01:52:07 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3810947890731317374==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: I Add Repo layout for the upcoming 3.1 release - rmiddle proposal to the Agenda. Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 01:52:05 -0400 Message-ID: <500CE685.7050700@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 595180901.633414.1343021137961.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============3810947890731317374== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/23/2012 01:25 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >> To: "infra" >> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:16:58 AM >> Subject: I Add Repo layout for the upcoming 3.1 release - rmiddle propos= al to the Agenda. >> >> I copied the open items from last week and created the entry for this >> weeks agenda. >> >> Anything thing else anyone can think of for this weeks meeting? > I think we should open a new project in gerrit for jenkins code. > it's bad practise to keep all code inside the jobs (i.e not backed-up, un= managed, unreviewed). > > let's talk about the structure of this repo (has been brought in the past= ) (separate repo/directory per ovirt project?) eedri, I add this to the agenda. Jenkins backups and code review. Thanks Robert > >> Thanks >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> --===============3810947890731317374==-- From eedri at redhat.com Mon Jul 23 01:55:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1081204833690669663==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Repo layout. We really need to make the call by Tuesday 2012/7/24. Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 01:54:58 -0400 Message-ID: <1363949890.641040.1343022898677.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5009701A.1070503@middleswarth.net --===============1081204833690669663== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "infra" > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:50:02 PM > Subject: Repo layout. We really need to make the call by Tuesday 2012/7/= 24. > = > The current repo layout will have to change some to support the 3.1 > release that might be happening on the 25th. We are going to have to > move stuff around to archive the 3.0 release as well as setup the 3.1 > release in my option we can do it one of two ways. 1) Create an > archive > folder and just copy 3.0 to it well we do the 3.1 release and keep > the > same structure we have now. 2) Redo the layout to something that > will > long term support version and be less confusing to people using the > project. > = > Personally I think this is a good time to redesign. The existing 3.0 > repo files are going to break when we move things around for the 3.1 > release and we are going to need to make sure everything is in place. > Since we are going to have to disrupt thing already why not do a full > clean-up instead of just patch the current layout. Our current > layout. > = > release/[stable|beta|nightly]/[binary|fedora|RHEL|src]/[16|17|18] > = > I recommend we switching to the following structure. > = > release/[3.0|3.1|3.2|stable|testing]/[nightly|beta|released]/[tools|fedor= a|RHEL|src]/[16|17|18|rawhide] i don't see the reason for 'stable|testing' dir in the version section. i recommend: release/$VERSION/$RELEASE-STATE/$OS/$OS_VER/$TYPE $VERSION =3D 3.0,3.1,3.X $RELEASE-STATE =3D released/beta/nightly $OS =3D Fedora, RHEL, Ubunto, RHEVH $OS_VERSION =3D 16,17,6.2,6,3 $TYPE =3D binary, src, tools = examples -> this is where jenkins will deploy nightly rpms: = release/3.1/nightly/fedora/17/[src | binary | tools] = i imagine that we'll deploy beta/release version manually when needed. > = > With symlinks for stable and testing point to the current version for > each. I also suggest a symlink called > release/fedora-ovirt-latest.rpm > that points to the latest ovirt-release-*.rpm file. > = not sure why this is needed and how we will update these sym links all the = time ( manually ?) = people should know that d/l rpms from the 'stable' directory will give them= stable release, question is if we put more than one version or nighties in the unstable dir= , or just the latest.. if we're keeping versions back then: 1. how many 2. need a cleaner to delete old version 3. keeping all version in a single yum repo is common practise? = > Inside each version there will be a repo file that enables released > disables beta & nightly. > = > Since each repo file will simple reference everything by version > number > each new release wont break old releases. > = > What does everyone think? > = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============1081204833690669663==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Mon Jul 23 02:29:40 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3062146105065715388==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Repo layout. We really need to make the call by Tuesday 2012/7/24. Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: <500CEF51.1000105@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1363949890.641040.1343022898677.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============3062146105065715388== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/23/2012 01:54 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >> To: "infra" >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:50:02 PM >> Subject: Repo layout. We really need to make the call by Tuesday 2012/7= /24. >> >> The current repo layout will have to change some to support the 3.1 >> release that might be happening on the 25th. We are going to have to >> move stuff around to archive the 3.0 release as well as setup the 3.1 >> release in my option we can do it one of two ways. 1) Create an >> archive >> folder and just copy 3.0 to it well we do the 3.1 release and keep >> the >> same structure we have now. 2) Redo the layout to something that >> will >> long term support version and be less confusing to people using the >> project. >> >> Personally I think this is a good time to redesign. The existing 3.0 >> repo files are going to break when we move things around for the 3.1 >> release and we are going to need to make sure everything is in place. >> Since we are going to have to disrupt thing already why not do a full >> clean-up instead of just patch the current layout. Our current >> layout. >> >> release/[stable|beta|nightly]/[binary|fedora|RHEL|src]/[16|17|18] >> >> I recommend we switching to the following structure. >> >> release/[3.0|3.1|3.2|stable|testing]/[nightly|beta|released]/[tools|fedo= ra|RHEL|src]/[16|17|18|rawhide] > > i don't see the reason for 'stable|testing' dir in the version section. They would just be convent links to the current release and testing = releases. Right now stable would point at 3.0 and testing would point = at 3.1. Assuming 3.1 gets released on the 25th then the links would be = updated so stable would point at 3.1 and testing would point at 3.2 > > i recommend: > > release/$VERSION/$RELEASE-STATE/$OS/$OS_VER/$TYPE > > $VERSION =3D 3.0,3.1,3.X > $RELEASE-STATE =3D released/beta/nightly > $OS =3D Fedora, RHEL, Ubunto, RHEVH > $OS_VERSION =3D 16,17,6.2,6,3 > $TYPE =3D binary, src, tools Agree with the structure. Pretty much what I was recommending. > > examples -> this is where jenkins will deploy nightly rpms: > release/3.1/nightly/fedora/17/[src | binary | tools] My with the engine branched nightly should be called 3.2 not 3.1 since = they are master. Although in theory would could have a folder called = master and one for each release? > i imagine that we'll deploy beta/release version manually when needed. I would actually prefer that we get the beta and release processes into = Jenkins and have Jenkins handle the beta and release builds it will make = it easier to push out releases without someone from the infra team = required to make anything happen. > >> With symlinks for stable and testing point to the current version for >> each. I also suggest a symlink called >> release/fedora-ovirt-latest.rpm >> that points to the latest ovirt-release-*.rpm file. >> The idea is to create one place the documentation can link to that will = update over time without having to update the documentation. > not sure why this is needed and how we will update these sym links all th= e time ( manually ?) > people should know that d/l rpms from the 'stable' directory will give th= em stable release, > question is if we put more than one version or nighties in the unstable d= ir, or just the latest.. > if we're keeping versions back then: > > 1. how many I was thinking a few days worth. Sometime it helps to keep a few days = worth in case something goes wrong with the create repo. > 2. need a cleaner to delete old version Yes. We need a way to clean up old builds. > 3. keeping all version in a single yum repo is common practise? ? All Versions of oVirt? Or all OS versions? >> Inside each version there will be a repo file that enables released >> disables beta & nightly. >> >> Since each repo file will simple reference everything by version >> number >> each new release wont break old releases. >> >> What does everyone think? >> >> Thanks >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> --===============3062146105065715388==-- From iheim at redhat.com Mon Jul 23 02:48:19 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3597471552009229923==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: I Add Repo layout for the upcoming 3.1 release - rmiddle proposal to the Agenda. Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:48:15 +0300 Message-ID: <500CF3AF.1070008@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 595180901.633414.1343021137961.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============3597471552009229923== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/23/2012 08:25 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > let's talk about the structure of this repo (has been brought in the past= ) (separate repo/directory per ovirt project?) I'm for managing this in git. I'm for making repo's make sense. I don't see a relation between say, web site repo and jenkins repo. so I'm +1 for a jenkins repo. --===============3597471552009229923==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Mon Jul 23 21:38:37 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4142766937716273864==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Alert drive space on Jenkins.ovirt.org is under 1G. Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:38:35 -0400 Message-ID: <500DFC9B.5040402@middleswarth.net> --===============4142766937716273864== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since I have been learning Jenkins I have been paying close attention = to the server. After the latest round of changes the server went from = 47G used with around 3G free to 49G used with 665M free. We need to = clean out some space before the system crashes from lack of space. Thanks Robert --===============4142766937716273864==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Tue Jul 24 04:33:34 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3231527265585242326==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BoVirt_Jenkins=5D_check=5Fdisk=5Fspace=5Fon=5Fjenkins=5Fslave?= =?utf-8?q?s_=C2=BB_master_-_Build_=23_3_-_Still_Failing!?= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:33:29 -0400 Message-ID: <844881737.811343118809252.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins.ovirt.org> --===============3231527265585242326== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_503_29753115.1343118809242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/./= label=3Dmaster/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/./la= bel=3Dmaster/3/ Build Number: 3 Build Status: Still Failing Triggered By: Started by upstream project "check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slav= es" build number 3 ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #2 Changes for Build #3 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by upstream project "check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves" build numb= er 3 Building on master No emails were triggered. [master] $ /bin/sh /tmp/hudson4589449778174908790.sh 99% /dev/xvde1 Running out of space "/dev/xvde1 (99%)" on jenkins.ovirt.org as on Tue Jul = 24 04:33:28 EDT 2012 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Email was triggered for: Failure Sending email for trigger: Failure ------=3D_Part_503_29753115.1343118809242-- --===============3231527265585242326== Content-Type: multipart/mixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.bin" LS0tLS0tPV9QYXJ0XzUwM18yOTc1MzExNS4xMzQzMTE4ODA5MjQyCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogdGV4 dC9wbGFpbjsgY2hhcnNldD1VVEYtOApDb250ZW50LVRyYW5zZmVyLUVuY29kaW5nOiA3Yml0CgpQ cm9qZWN0OiBodHRwOi8vamVua2lucy5vdmlydC5vcmcvam9iL2NoZWNrX2Rpc2tfc3BhY2Vfb25f amVua2luc19zbGF2ZXMvLi9sYWJlbD1tYXN0ZXIvIApCdWlsZDogaHR0cDovL2plbmtpbnMub3Zp cnQub3JnL2pvYi9jaGVja19kaXNrX3NwYWNlX29uX2plbmtpbnNfc2xhdmVzLy4vbGFiZWw9bWFz dGVyLzMvCkJ1aWxkIE51bWJlcjogMwpCdWlsZCBTdGF0dXM6ICBTdGlsbCBGYWlsaW5nClRyaWdn ZXJlZCBCeTogU3RhcnRlZCBieSB1cHN0cmVhbSBwcm9qZWN0ICJjaGVja19kaXNrX3NwYWNlX29u X2plbmtpbnNfc2xhdmVzIiBidWlsZCBudW1iZXIgMwoKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpDaGFuZ2VzIFNpbmNlIExhc3QgU3VjY2VzczoKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpDaGFuZ2VzIGZvciBCdWlsZCAjMgoKQ2hhbmdlcyBmb3Ig QnVpbGQgIzMKCgoKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KRmFpbGVkIFRlc3RzOgotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLQpObyB0ZXN0cyByYW4uIAoKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCkJ1aWxkIExvZzoKLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tClN0YXJ0ZWQgYnkgdXBzdHJlYW0gcHJvamVjdCAiY2hlY2tfZGlza19zcGFj ZV9vbl9qZW5raW5zX3NsYXZlcyIgYnVpbGQgbnVtYmVyIDMKQnVpbGRpbmcgb24gbWFzdGVyCk5v IGVtYWlscyB3ZXJlIHRyaWdnZXJlZC4KW21hc3Rlcl0gJCAvYmluL3NoIC90bXAvaHVkc29uNDU4 OTQ0OTc3ODE3NDkwODc5MC5zaAo5OSUgL2Rldi94dmRlMQpSdW5uaW5nIG91dCBvZiBzcGFjZSAi L2Rldi94dmRlMSAoOTklKSIgb24gamVua2lucy5vdmlydC5vcmcgYXMgb24gVHVlIEp1bCAyNCAw NDozMzoyOCBFRFQgMjAxMgpCdWlsZCBzdGVwICdFeGVjdXRlIHNoZWxsJyBtYXJrZWQgYnVpbGQg YXMgZmFpbHVyZQpFbWFpbCB3YXMgdHJpZ2dlcmVkIGZvcjogRmFpbHVyZQpTZW5kaW5nIGVtYWls IGZvciB0cmlnZ2VyOiBGYWlsdXJlCgotLS0tLS09X1BhcnRfNTAzXzI5NzUzMTE1LjEzNDMxMTg4 MDkyNDItLQoK --===============3231527265585242326==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Tue Jul 24 04:33:41 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2096280523370131027==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves - Build # 3 - Still Failing! Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:33:38 -0400 Message-ID: <816846304.831343118818992.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins.ovirt.org> --===============2096280523370131027== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_505_1257326319.1343118818821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/3/ Build Number: 3 Build Status: Still Failing Triggered By: Started by user Eyal Edri ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #2 Changes for Build #3 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by user Eyal Edri Building remotely on rhel_62_slave_01 No emails were triggered. Triggering rhel_62_slave_01 Triggering rhel_62_slave_02 Triggering fedora17-slave-vm02 Triggering jenkins.ekohl.nl Triggering master Triggering fedora17-slave-vm01 rhel_62_slave_01 completed with result SUCCESS rhel_62_slave_02 completed with result SUCCESS fedora17-slave-vm02 completed with result SUCCESS jenkins.ekohl.nl completed with result FAILURE master completed with result FAILURE fedora17-slave-vm01 completed with result SUCCESS Interrupting #3 Email was triggered for: Failure Sending email for trigger: Failure ------=3D_Part_505_1257326319.1343118818821-- --===============2096280523370131027== Content-Type: multipart/mixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.bin" LS0tLS0tPV9QYXJ0XzUwNV8xMjU3MzI2MzE5LjEzNDMxMTg4MTg4MjEKQ29udGVudC1UeXBlOiB0 ZXh0L3BsYWluOyBjaGFyc2V0PVVURi04CkNvbnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IDdiaXQK ClByb2plY3Q6IGh0dHA6Ly9qZW5raW5zLm92aXJ0Lm9yZy9qb2IvY2hlY2tfZGlza19zcGFjZV9v bl9qZW5raW5zX3NsYXZlcy8gCkJ1aWxkOiBodHRwOi8vamVua2lucy5vdmlydC5vcmcvam9iL2No ZWNrX2Rpc2tfc3BhY2Vfb25famVua2luc19zbGF2ZXMvMy8KQnVpbGQgTnVtYmVyOiAzCkJ1aWxk IFN0YXR1czogIFN0aWxsIEZhaWxpbmcKVHJpZ2dlcmVkIEJ5OiBTdGFydGVkIGJ5IHVzZXIgRXlh bCBFZHJpCgotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCkNoYW5nZXMgU2lu Y2UgTGFzdCBTdWNjZXNzOgotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCkNo YW5nZXMgZm9yIEJ1aWxkICMyCgpDaGFuZ2VzIGZvciBCdWlsZCAjMwoKCgotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLQpGYWlsZWQgVGVzdHM6Ci0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCk5vIHRlc3RzIHJhbi4gCgotLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KQnVpbGQgTG9nOgotLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KU3RhcnRlZCBieSB1 c2VyIEV5YWwgRWRyaQpCdWlsZGluZyByZW1vdGVseSBvbiByaGVsXzYyX3NsYXZlXzAxCk5vIGVt YWlscyB3ZXJlIHRyaWdnZXJlZC4KVHJpZ2dlcmluZyByaGVsXzYyX3NsYXZlXzAxClRyaWdnZXJp bmcgcmhlbF82Ml9zbGF2ZV8wMgpUcmlnZ2VyaW5nIGZlZG9yYTE3LXNsYXZlLXZtMDIKVHJpZ2dl cmluZyBqZW5raW5zLmVrb2hsLm5sClRyaWdnZXJpbmcgbWFzdGVyClRyaWdnZXJpbmcgZmVkb3Jh MTctc2xhdmUtdm0wMQpyaGVsXzYyX3NsYXZlXzAxIGNvbXBsZXRlZCB3aXRoIHJlc3VsdCBTVUND RVNTCnJoZWxfNjJfc2xhdmVfMDIgY29tcGxldGVkIHdpdGggcmVzdWx0IFNVQ0NFU1MKZmVkb3Jh MTctc2xhdmUtdm0wMiBjb21wbGV0ZWQgd2l0aCByZXN1bHQgU1VDQ0VTUwpqZW5raW5zLmVrb2hs Lm5sIGNvbXBsZXRlZCB3aXRoIHJlc3VsdCBGQUlMVVJFCm1hc3RlciBjb21wbGV0ZWQgd2l0aCBy ZXN1bHQgRkFJTFVSRQpmZWRvcmExNy1zbGF2ZS12bTAxIGNvbXBsZXRlZCB3aXRoIHJlc3VsdCBT VUNDRVNTCkludGVycnVwdGluZyAjMwpFbWFpbCB3YXMgdHJpZ2dlcmVkIGZvcjogRmFpbHVyZQpT ZW5kaW5nIGVtYWlsIGZvciB0cmlnZ2VyOiBGYWlsdXJlCgotLS0tLS09X1BhcnRfNTA1XzEyNTcz MjYzMTkuMTM0MzExODgxODgyMS0tCgo= --===============2096280523370131027==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Tue Jul 24 04:33:41 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6835879394105770352==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BoVirt_Jenkins=5D_check=5Fdisk=5Fspace=5Fon=5Fjenkins=5Fslave?= =?utf-8?q?s_=C2=BB_jenkins=2Eekohl=2Enl_-_Build_=23_3_-_Still_Failing!?= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:33:38 -0400 Message-ID: <489975867.821343118818837.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins.ovirt.org> --===============6835879394105770352== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_504_2021913559.1343118818417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/./= label=3Djenkins.ekohl.nl/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/./la= bel=3Djenkins.ekohl.nl/3/ Build Number: 3 Build Status: Still Failing Triggered By: Started by upstream project "check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slav= es" build number 3 ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #2 Changes for Build #3 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by upstream project "check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves" build numb= er 3 Building remotely on jenkins.ekohl.nl No emails were triggered. [jenkins.ekohl.nl] $ /bin/sh /tmp/hudson7432582867998159910.sh 34% rootfs 34% /dev/mapper/vg_jenkins-lv_root 13% /dev/vda1 100% /dev/loop0 Running out of space "/dev/loop0 (100%)" on jenkins.ekohl.nl as on Tue Jul = 24 10:33:33 CEST 2012 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Email was triggered for: Failure Sending email for trigger: Failure ------=3D_Part_504_2021913559.1343118818417-- --===============6835879394105770352== Content-Type: multipart/mixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.bin" LS0tLS0tPV9QYXJ0XzUwNF8yMDIxOTEzNTU5LjEzNDMxMTg4MTg0MTcKQ29udGVudC1UeXBlOiB0 ZXh0L3BsYWluOyBjaGFyc2V0PVVURi04CkNvbnRlbnQtVHJhbnNmZXItRW5jb2Rpbmc6IDdiaXQK ClByb2plY3Q6IGh0dHA6Ly9qZW5raW5zLm92aXJ0Lm9yZy9qb2IvY2hlY2tfZGlza19zcGFjZV9v bl9qZW5raW5zX3NsYXZlcy8uL2xhYmVsPWplbmtpbnMuZWtvaGwubmwvIApCdWlsZDogaHR0cDov L2plbmtpbnMub3ZpcnQub3JnL2pvYi9jaGVja19kaXNrX3NwYWNlX29uX2plbmtpbnNfc2xhdmVz Ly4vbGFiZWw9amVua2lucy5la29obC5ubC8zLwpCdWlsZCBOdW1iZXI6IDMKQnVpbGQgU3RhdHVz OiAgU3RpbGwgRmFpbGluZwpUcmlnZ2VyZWQgQnk6IFN0YXJ0ZWQgYnkgdXBzdHJlYW0gcHJvamVj dCAiY2hlY2tfZGlza19zcGFjZV9vbl9qZW5raW5zX3NsYXZlcyIgYnVpbGQgbnVtYmVyIDMKCi0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KQ2hhbmdlcyBTaW5jZSBMYXN0IFN1 Y2Nlc3M6Ci0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KQ2hhbmdlcyBmb3Ig QnVpbGQgIzIKCkNoYW5nZXMgZm9yIEJ1aWxkICMzCgoKCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCkZhaWxl ZCBUZXN0czoKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KTm8gdGVzdHMgcmFuLiAKCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLQpCdWlsZCBMb2c6Ci0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpTdGFydGVkIGJ5IHVwc3RyZWFtIHBy b2plY3QgImNoZWNrX2Rpc2tfc3BhY2Vfb25famVua2luc19zbGF2ZXMiIGJ1aWxkIG51bWJlciAz CkJ1aWxkaW5nIHJlbW90ZWx5IG9uIGplbmtpbnMuZWtvaGwubmwKTm8gZW1haWxzIHdlcmUgdHJp Z2dlcmVkLgpbamVua2lucy5la29obC5ubF0gJCAvYmluL3NoIC90bXAvaHVkc29uNzQzMjU4Mjg2 Nzk5ODE1OTkxMC5zaAozNCUgcm9vdGZzCjM0JSAvZGV2L21hcHBlci92Z19qZW5raW5zLWx2X3Jv b3QKMTMlIC9kZXYvdmRhMQoxMDAlIC9kZXYvbG9vcDAKUnVubmluZyBvdXQgb2Ygc3BhY2UgIi9k ZXYvbG9vcDAgKDEwMCUpIiBvbiBqZW5raW5zLmVrb2hsLm5sIGFzIG9uIFR1ZSBKdWwgMjQgMTA6 MzM6MzMgQ0VTVCAyMDEyCkJ1aWxkIHN0ZXAgJ0V4ZWN1dGUgc2hlbGwnIG1hcmtlZCBidWlsZCBh cyBmYWlsdXJlCkVtYWlsIHdhcyB0cmlnZ2VyZWQgZm9yOiBGYWlsdXJlClNlbmRpbmcgZW1haWwg Zm9yIHRyaWdnZXI6IEZhaWx1cmUKCi0tLS0tLT1fUGFydF81MDRfMjAyMTkxMzU1OS4xMzQzMTE4 ODE4NDE3LS0KCg== --===============6835879394105770352==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 24 04:36:19 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1914101975801112608==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Alert drive space on Jenkins.ovirt.org is under 1G. Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 04:36:17 -0400 Message-ID: <884507965.2180822.1343118977750.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 500DFC9B.5040402@middleswarth.net --===============1914101975801112608== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "infra" , "Eyal Edri" , "Itama= r Heim" , "Karsten 'quaid' > Wade" > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:38:35 AM > Subject: Alert drive space on Jenkins.ovirt.org is under 1G. > = > Since I have been learning Jenkins I have been paying close > attention > to the server. After the latest round of changes the server went > from > 47G used with around 3G free to 49G used with 665M free. We need to > clean out some space before the system crashes from lack of space. thanks for the heads up. 1st, 50GB is not enough space for a master node, since it keeps all builds = history on his filesystem. so if you want to keep build history back we need to increase the available= space. = for now: 1. activate the 'check free space job' that should alert us on space issues= on any of the jenkins slaves -> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/system-monit= oring/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves 2. removed history builds for jobs to 20-60 (instead of 100) > = > Thanks > Robert > = > = >=20 --===============1914101975801112608==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Tue Jul 24 09:25:37 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6577138900308082457==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: =?utf-8?q?=5BoVirt_Jenkins=5D_check=5Fdisk=5Fspace=5Fon=5Fjenkins=5Fslave?= =?utf-8?q?s_=C2=BB_jenkins=2Eekohl=2Enl_-_Build_=23_4_-_Still_Failing!?= Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 09:25:34 -0400 Message-ID: <902487477.41343136335590.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins.ovirt.org> In-Reply-To: 489975867.821343118818837.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins.ovirt.org --===============6577138900308082457== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_10_1822272577.1343136334325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/./= label=3Djenkins.ekohl.nl/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves/./la= bel=3Djenkins.ekohl.nl/4/ Build Number: 4 Build Status: Still Failing Triggered By: Started by upstream project "check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slav= es" build number 4 ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #2 Changes for Build #3 Changes for Build #4 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by upstream project "check_disk_space_on_jenkins_slaves" build numb= er 4 Building remotely on jenkins.ekohl.nl No emails were triggered. [jenkins.ekohl.nl] $ /bin/sh /tmp/hudson6710338567810609956.sh 34% rootfs 34% /dev/mapper/vg_jenkins-lv_root 13% /dev/vda1 100% /dev/loop0 Running out of space "/dev/loop0 (100%)" on jenkins.ekohl.nl as on Tue Jul = 24 15:25:26 CEST 2012 Build step 'Execute shell' marked build as failure Email was triggered for: Failure Sending email for trigger: Failure ------=3D_Part_10_1822272577.1343136334325-- --===============6577138900308082457== Content-Type: multipart/mixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.bin" LS0tLS0tPV9QYXJ0XzEwXzE4MjIyNzI1NzcuMTM0MzEzNjMzNDMyNQpDb250ZW50LVR5cGU6IHRl eHQvcGxhaW47IGNoYXJzZXQ9VVRGLTgKQ29udGVudC1UcmFuc2Zlci1FbmNvZGluZzogN2JpdAoK UHJvamVjdDogaHR0cDovL2plbmtpbnMub3ZpcnQub3JnL2pvYi9jaGVja19kaXNrX3NwYWNlX29u X2plbmtpbnNfc2xhdmVzLy4vbGFiZWw9amVua2lucy5la29obC5ubC8gCkJ1aWxkOiBodHRwOi8v amVua2lucy5vdmlydC5vcmcvam9iL2NoZWNrX2Rpc2tfc3BhY2Vfb25famVua2luc19zbGF2ZXMv Li9sYWJlbD1qZW5raW5zLmVrb2hsLm5sLzQvCkJ1aWxkIE51bWJlcjogNApCdWlsZCBTdGF0dXM6 ICBTdGlsbCBGYWlsaW5nClRyaWdnZXJlZCBCeTogU3RhcnRlZCBieSB1cHN0cmVhbSBwcm9qZWN0 ICJjaGVja19kaXNrX3NwYWNlX29uX2plbmtpbnNfc2xhdmVzIiBidWlsZCBudW1iZXIgNAoKLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpDaGFuZ2VzIFNpbmNlIExhc3QgU3Vj Y2VzczoKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpDaGFuZ2VzIGZvciBC dWlsZCAjMgoKQ2hhbmdlcyBmb3IgQnVpbGQgIzMKCkNoYW5nZXMgZm9yIEJ1aWxkICM0CgoKCi0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tCkZhaWxlZCBUZXN0czoKLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0KTm8gdGVzdHMg cmFuLiAKCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpCdWlsZCBMb2c6Ci0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQpT dGFydGVkIGJ5IHVwc3RyZWFtIHByb2plY3QgImNoZWNrX2Rpc2tfc3BhY2Vfb25famVua2luc19z bGF2ZXMiIGJ1aWxkIG51bWJlciA0CkJ1aWxkaW5nIHJlbW90ZWx5IG9uIGplbmtpbnMuZWtvaGwu bmwKTm8gZW1haWxzIHdlcmUgdHJpZ2dlcmVkLgpbamVua2lucy5la29obC5ubF0gJCAvYmluL3No IC90bXAvaHVkc29uNjcxMDMzODU2NzgxMDYwOTk1Ni5zaAozNCUgcm9vdGZzCjM0JSAvZGV2L21h cHBlci92Z19qZW5raW5zLWx2X3Jvb3QKMTMlIC9kZXYvdmRhMQoxMDAlIC9kZXYvbG9vcDAKUnVu bmluZyBvdXQgb2Ygc3BhY2UgIi9kZXYvbG9vcDAgKDEwMCUpIiBvbiBqZW5raW5zLmVrb2hsLm5s IGFzIG9uIFR1ZSBKdWwgMjQgMTU6MjU6MjYgQ0VTVCAyMDEyCkJ1aWxkIHN0ZXAgJ0V4ZWN1dGUg c2hlbGwnIG1hcmtlZCBidWlsZCBhcyBmYWlsdXJlCkVtYWlsIHdhcyB0cmlnZ2VyZWQgZm9yOiBG YWlsdXJlClNlbmRpbmcgZW1haWwgZm9yIHRyaWdnZXI6IEZhaWx1cmUKCi0tLS0tLT1fUGFydF8x MF8xODIyMjcyNTc3LjEzNDMxMzYzMzQzMjUtLQoK --===============6577138900308082457==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 24 11:21:32 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5212505479711593938==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Minutes :: Infra weekly meeting :: 20120724 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:21:29 -0700 Message-ID: <500EBD79.8090803@redhat.com> --===============5212505479711593938== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-24-14.01.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-24-14.01.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-24-14.01.log.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #ovirt Meeting =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Meeting started by quaid at 14:01:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-24-14.01.log.html . Meeting summary - --------------- * roll call & agenda check (quaid, 14:01:20) * LINK: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-24 (quaid, 14:02:52) * Repo layout proposal for 3.1 release (quaid, 14:05:18) * ACTION: add jobs to create .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 per project in ovirt (eedri, 14:14:21) * LINK: http://bpaste.net/show/36546/ (ewoud, 14:30:04) * LINK: http://bpaste.net/show/bKqcBTNv4Svskjo8TJ3U/ (mburns, 14:31:08) * LINK: http://bpaste.net/show/QwiYrrY5jvXP22A12SBM/ (mburns, 14:40:37) * ACTION: RobertM to put new repo in place (quaid, 14:51:03) * AGREED: layout as on http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Repo_layout (ewoud, 14:51:10) * AGREED: layout as on http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Repo_layout (quaid, 14:51:39) * AGREED: layout as on http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Repo_layout (eedri, 14:51:57) * Jenkins backups (quaid, 14:53:12) * ACTION: eedri to write a proposal on the list about how to get the files in to the repo (quaid, 14:53:36) * ACTION: RobertM backup /var/lib/jenkins using rsync (ewoud, 15:02:58) * enabling per patch builds on Jenkins (RobertM, 15:05:38) * ACTION: ewoud prepare a puppet proposal on the mailing list for the next agenda (ewoud, 15:10:54) * AGREED: new agenda items should be prepared by the proposer so we reach a conclusion faster (ewoud, 15:13:37) Meeting ended at 15:18:13 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * add jobs to create .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 per project in ovirt * RobertM to put new repo in place * eedri to write a proposal on the list about how to get the files in to the repo * RobertM backup /var/lib/jenkins using rsync * ewoud prepare a puppet proposal on the mailing list for the next agenda Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * eedri * eedri to write a proposal on the list about how to get the files in to the repo * ewoud * ewoud prepare a puppet proposal on the mailing list for the next agenda * RobertM * RobertM to put new repo in place * RobertM backup /var/lib/jenkins using rsync * **UNASSIGNED** * add jobs to create .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 per project in ovirt People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * eedri (102) * mburns (79) * ewoud (55) * RobertM (44) * quaid (42) * ovirtbot (8) * dneary (6) * mgoldboi (5) * fabiand (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQDr152ZIOBq0ODEERAnA6AKDBf3ANC/9CWblNjh1YgMMd7+4GJgCg2fvn fWND0dFyRTBTc4qy9uzgVgU=3D =3DFl3M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5212505479711593938==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 24 12:11:15 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1414666536125777708==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Jenkins drive space issue this morning. Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:11:13 -0400 Message-ID: <500EC921.3010101@middleswarth.net> --===============1414666536125777708== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jenkins master ran out of space this morning. I was able to remove a = few jobs and clean up some space to get Jenkins back online. After = review things we found a 11G log file I moved it out of the way and now = we have more space free. I updated log rotate to adjust move the log = files around and purge them after 7 days. If anyone has an issue with = that let me know. This should keep the space down some until we can = move Jenkins to a new system. Thanks Robert --===============1414666536125777708==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 24 15:01:15 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6777299499760732209==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Reduced the number of executors to 2 on master. Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:01:13 -0400 Message-ID: <500EF0F9.6030609@middleswarth.net> --===============6777299499760732209== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was watching how overloaded Jenkins was well it was running 3 jobs on = the master server. It was so overload that the Jenkins website became = unresponsive for a several min. So I reduced the number of jobs that = will on the master. Thanks Robert --===============6777299499760732209==-- From jenkins at ovirt.org Tue Jul 24 20:34:16 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7266949237870138189==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jenkins oVirt Server To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: [oVirt Jenkins] check_gerrit_ovirt_org - Build # 17445 - Failure! Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:34:12 -0400 Message-ID: <1497517855.111343176452873.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins.ovirt.org> --===============7266949237870138189== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_83_1314747234.1343176452807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/ = Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/17445/ Build Number: 17445 Build Status: Failure Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #17445 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran. = ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building on master No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson2283982098192505595.sh + rm index.html + rm 'gitweb?p=3Dtest.git' + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-24 20:31:08-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000001ab2860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Retrying. --2012-07-24 20:32:10-- (try: 2) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Found gerrit.ovirt.org in host_name_addresses_map (0x1ab2860) Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000001ab2860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Retrying. --2012-07-24 20:33:12-- (try: 3) http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Found gerrit.ovirt.org in host_name_addresses_map (0x1ab2860) Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000001ab2860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) i= n headers. Closed fd 3 Giving up. 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Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:51:11 -0400 Message-ID: <548223844.121343177471742.JavaMail.jenkins@jenkins.ovirt.org> --===============4946920821968301594== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_85_1842521712.1343177471739 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Project: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/=3D20 Build: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/job/check_gerrit_ovirt_org/17447/ Build Number: 17447 Build Status: Fixed Triggered By: Started by timer ------------------------------------- Changes Since Last Success: ------------------------------------- Changes for Build #17445 Changes for Build #17446 Changes for Build #17447 ----------------- Failed Tests: ----------------- No tests ran.=3D20 ------------------ Build Log: ------------------ Started by timer Building on master No emails were triggered. [check_gerrit_ovirt_org] $ /bin/sh -xe /tmp/hudson1726606720269771168.sh + rm 'index.html*' rm: cannot remove `index.html*': No such file or directory + /bin/true + rm 'gitweb*' rm: cannot remove `gitweb*': No such file or directory + /bin/true + wget -v -d gerrit.ovirt.org --timeout 60 -t 3 Setting --timeout (timeout) to 60 Setting --tries (tries) to 3 DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-24 20:51:09-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/ Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. Releasing 0x0000000000ed9860 (new refcount 1). ---request begin--- GET / HTTP/1.0 User-Agent: Wget/1.12 (linux-gnu) Accept: */* Host: gerrit.ovirt.org Connection: Keep-Alive ---request end--- HTTP request sent, awaiting response...=3D20 ---response begin--- HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 00:51:03 GMT X-XRDS-Location: http://gerrit.ovirt.org/OpenID.XRDS Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1980 00:00:00 GMT Pragma: no-cache Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate Content-Type: text/html;charset=3D3DUTF-8 Content-Length: 3245 Connection: keep-alive ---response end--- 200 OK Registered socket 3 for persistent reuse. Length: 3245 (3.2K) [text/html] Saving to: =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cindex.html=3DE2=3D80=3D9D 0K ... 100% 136M=3D= 3D=3D 0s 2012-07-24 20:51:09 (136 MB/s) - =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cindex.html=3DE2=3D80=3D9D s= aved [3245/3=3D 245] + wget --timeout 60 -t 3 -v -d 'gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3D3Dtest.git' DEBUG output created by Wget 1.12 on linux-gnu. --2012-07-24 20:51:10-- http://gerrit.ovirt.org/gitweb?p=3D3Dtest.git Resolving gerrit.ovirt.org... 107.22.212.69 Caching gerrit.ovirt.org =3D3D> 107.22.212.69 Connecting to gerrit.ovirt.org|107.22.212.69|:80... connected. Created socket 3. 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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 02:42:08 -0400 Message-ID: <622185278.2915992.1343198528452.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 500EF0F9.6030609@middleswarth.net --===============1954445796683030147== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" , "Eyal Edri" , "Mike Burns" , > "infra" > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:01:13 PM > Subject: Reduced the number of executors to 2 on master. > = > I was watching how overloaded Jenkins was well it was running 3 jobs > on > the master server. It was so overload that the Jenkins website > became > unresponsive for a several min. So I reduced the number of jobs that > will on the master. > = if we have enough slaves, it's best practice to set it even to 0, and not run any jobs on it. > Thanks > Robert >=20 --===============1954445796683030147==-- From iheim at redhat.com Wed Jul 25 04:59:20 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4693887354802829461==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: gerrit upgrade to 2.4 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 11:59:16 +0300 Message-ID: <500FB564.5040101@redhat.com> --===============4693887354802829461== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable fyi - I'm planning to upgrade gerrit to 2.4.2 early sunday. I'll send an email before the actual upgrade --===============4693887354802829461==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 25 09:05:01 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3856765384028460698==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Reduced the number of executors to 2 on master. Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:04:59 -0400 Message-ID: <500FEEFB.9050301@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 622185278.2915992.1343198528452.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============3856765384028460698== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/25/2012 02:42 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >> To: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" , "Eyal Edri" , "Mike Burns" , >> "infra" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:01:13 PM >> Subject: Reduced the number of executors to 2 on master. >> >> I was watching how overloaded Jenkins was well it was running 3 jobs >> on >> the master server. It was so overload that the Jenkins website >> became >> unresponsive for a several min. So I reduced the number of jobs that >> will on the master. >> > if we have enough slaves, it's best practice to set it even to 0, > and not run any jobs on it. There is one Job that is set to run only on master but I don't have = problem dropping down the number of jobs running on master. I will = bring it down to 1 that should help lower the load on master even more. Thanks Robert >> Thanks >> Robert >> --===============3856765384028460698==-- From mburns at redhat.com Wed Jul 25 09:48:53 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5033127771373952414==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Reduced the number of executors to 2 on master. Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 09:48:51 -0400 Message-ID: <1343224131.14396.12.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 500FEEFB.9050301@middleswarth.net --===============5033127771373952414== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2012-07-25 at 09:04 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/25/2012 02:42 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" > >> To: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" , "Eyal Edri" , "Mike Burns" , > >> "infra" > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:01:13 PM > >> Subject: Reduced the number of executors to 2 on master. > >> > >> I was watching how overloaded Jenkins was well it was running 3 jobs > >> on > >> the master server. It was so overload that the Jenkins website > >> became > >> unresponsive for a several min. So I reduced the number of jobs that > >> will on the master. > >> > > if we have enough slaves, it's best practice to set it even to 0, > > and not run any jobs on it. > There is one Job that is set to run only on master but I don't have = > problem dropping down the number of jobs running on master. I will = > bring it down to 1 that should help lower the load on master even more. Before bringing it down any more, can we look at what requires master to run and if we can/should move those jobs off master? Thanks Mike > = > Thanks > Robert > >> Thanks > >> Robert > >> > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============5033127771373952414==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Wed Jul 25 12:45:28 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4000599004057535654==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 12:45:27 -0400 Message-ID: <501022A7.1000806@middleswarth.net> --===============4000599004057535654== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have nightly backups running that is pulling down the following folders. /usr/local/bin/ /usr/local/sbin/ /etc/ /home/ /var/lib/jenkins/ Excluding /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/* /var/log/jenkins/ Did I miss anything? Thanks Robert --===============4000599004057535654==-- From eedri at redhat.com Thu Jul 26 03:22:32 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0131664220296759475==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 03:22:30 -0400 Message-ID: <292358479.3481837.1343287350357.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 501022A7.1000806@middleswarth.net --===============0131664220296759475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great! i think Jenkins puts his war file under /usr/lib/jenkins/jenkins.war also.. how long are keeping backups back? eyal. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "infra" > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:45:27 PM > Subject: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. > = > I have nightly backups running that is pulling down the following > folders. > = > /usr/local/bin/ > /usr/local/sbin/ > /etc/ > /home/ > /var/lib/jenkins/ > Excluding /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/* > /var/log/jenkins/ > = > Did I miss anything? > = > Thanks > Robert > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============0131664220296759475==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 26 08:29:30 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4274740428227791015==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:29:27 -0400 Message-ID: <50113827.6020309@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 292358479.3481837.1343287350357.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============4274740428227791015== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/26/2012 03:22 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > Great! > > i think Jenkins puts his war file under /usr/lib/jenkins/jenkins.war also= .. Added > how long are keeping backups back? interval daily 7 interval weekly 6 interval monthly 3 I can change those numbers those are just the defaults. Thanks Robert > eyal. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >> To: "infra" >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:45:27 PM >> Subject: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. >> >> I have nightly backups running that is pulling down the following >> folders. >> >> /usr/local/bin/ >> /usr/local/sbin/ >> /etc/ >> /home/ >> /var/lib/jenkins/ >> Excluding /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/* >> /var/log/jenkins/ >> >> Did I miss anything? >> >> Thanks >> Robert >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> --===============4274740428227791015==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 26 08:32:46 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5828158515632393086==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:32:44 -0400 Message-ID: <1343305964.14396.19.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 50113827.6020309@middleswarth.net --===============5828158515632393086== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 08:29 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/26/2012 03:22 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > Great! > > > > i think Jenkins puts his war file under /usr/lib/jenkins/jenkins.war al= so.. > Added Why? jenkins.war should be available from the jenkins website directly. Why would we be backing it up, unless we have some customizations that i'm not aware of. Mike > > how long are keeping backups back? > interval daily 7 > interval weekly 6 > interval monthly 3 > = > I can change those numbers those are just the defaults. > = > Thanks > Robert > > eyal. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" > >> To: "infra" > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:45:27 PM > >> Subject: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. > >> > >> I have nightly backups running that is pulling down the following > >> folders. > >> > >> /usr/local/bin/ > >> /usr/local/sbin/ > >> /etc/ > >> /home/ > >> /var/lib/jenkins/ > >> Excluding /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/* > >> /var/log/jenkins/ > >> > >> Did I miss anything? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Robert > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============5828158515632393086==-- From eedri at redhat.com Thu Jul 26 08:35:59 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6796098374997117310==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:35:57 -0400 Message-ID: <674666639.3698288.1343306157840.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1343305964.14396.19.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============6796098374997117310== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Burns" > To: "Robert Middleswarth" > Cc: "Eyal Edri" , "infra" > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 3:32:44 PM > Subject: Re: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. > = > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 08:29 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > > On 07/26/2012 03:22 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > Great! > > > > > > i think Jenkins puts his war file under > > > /usr/lib/jenkins/jenkins.war also.. > > Added > = > Why? jenkins.war should be available from the jenkins website > directly. > Why would we be backing it up, unless we have some customizations > that > i'm not aware of. i'm looking at the backup solution as a quick way to restore jenkins to wor= king state, in case of a crisis, i won't want to relay on the web/jenkins site to provi= de the right war file (it might be n/a at that time....) = > = > Mike > = > > > how long are keeping backups back? > > interval daily 7 > > interval weekly 6 > > interval monthly 3 > > = > > I can change those numbers those are just the defaults. > > = > > Thanks > > Robert > > > eyal. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" > > >> To: "infra" > > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:45:27 PM > > >> Subject: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. > > >> > > >> I have nightly backups running that is pulling down the > > >> following > > >> folders. > > >> > > >> /usr/local/bin/ > > >> /usr/local/sbin/ > > >> /etc/ > > >> /home/ > > >> /var/lib/jenkins/ > > >> Excluding /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/* > > >> /var/log/jenkins/ > > >> > > >> Did I miss anything? > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Robert > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Infra mailing list > > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > >> > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = >=20 --===============6796098374997117310==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 26 09:25:18 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2762358021862999996==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:25:16 -0400 Message-ID: <5011453C.7000101@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1343305964.14396.19.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============2762358021862999996== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/26/2012 08:32 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 08:29 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> On 07/26/2012 03:22 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> Great! >>> >>> i think Jenkins puts his war file under /usr/lib/jenkins/jenkins.war al= so.. >> Added > Why? jenkins.war should be available from the jenkins website directly. > Why would we be backing it up, unless we have some customizations that > i'm not aware of. > > Mike It is mainly to make it easy to restore in the event of failure. Lets = face it as a group we haven't been the best at updating stuff. Jenkins = is 1 version behind if we had to restore right now witch version would = you pull? Would you have pull in the same version as the backups. = Granted we should upgrade and pulling in a newer version shouldn't be an = issue but if you are attempting to do a restore keeping the number of = moving part to a min is important. Thanks Robert > >>> how long are keeping backups back? >> interval daily 7 >> interval weekly 6 >> interval monthly 3 >> >> I can change those numbers those are just the defaults. >> >> Thanks >> Robert >>> eyal. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >>>> To: "infra" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:45:27 PM >>>> Subject: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. >>>> >>>> I have nightly backups running that is pulling down the following >>>> folders. >>>> >>>> /usr/local/bin/ >>>> /usr/local/sbin/ >>>> /etc/ >>>> /home/ >>>> /var/lib/jenkins/ >>>> Excluding /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/* >>>> /var/log/jenkins/ >>>> >>>> Did I miss anything? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Robert >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Infra mailing list >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > --===============2762358021862999996==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 26 09:45:56 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1494331031019110430==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:45:53 -0400 Message-ID: <1343310353.14396.20.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 5011453C.7000101@middleswarth.net --===============1494331031019110430== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 09:25 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/26/2012 08:32 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 08:29 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >> On 07/26/2012 03:22 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>> Great! > >>> > >>> i think Jenkins puts his war file under /usr/lib/jenkins/jenkins.war = also.. > >> Added > > Why? jenkins.war should be available from the jenkins website directly. > > Why would we be backing it up, unless we have some customizations that > > i'm not aware of. > > > > Mike > It is mainly to make it easy to restore in the event of failure. Lets = > face it as a group we haven't been the best at updating stuff. Jenkins = > is 1 version behind if we had to restore right now witch version would = > you pull? Would you have pull in the same version as the backups. = > Granted we should upgrade and pulling in a newer version shouldn't be an = > issue but if you are attempting to do a restore keeping the number of = > moving part to a min is important. > = OK, point taken. Just didn't want to back up things that are easily available elsewhere, but these are good points. Mike > Thanks > Robert > > > >>> how long are keeping backups back? > >> interval daily 7 > >> interval weekly 6 > >> interval monthly 3 > >> > >> I can change those numbers those are just the defaults. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Robert > >>> eyal. > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Robert Middleswarth" > >>>> To: "infra" > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:45:27 PM > >>>> Subject: Nightly Jenkins backup are running. > >>>> > >>>> I have nightly backups running that is pulling down the following > >>>> folders. > >>>> > >>>> /usr/local/bin/ > >>>> /usr/local/sbin/ > >>>> /etc/ > >>>> /home/ > >>>> /var/lib/jenkins/ > >>>> Excluding /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/* > >>>> /var/log/jenkins/ > >>>> > >>>> Did I miss anything? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Robert > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Infra mailing list > >>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============1494331031019110430==-- From kwade at redhat.com Fri Jul 27 19:09:08 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6595669214554012738==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Change notice :: cronjobs on linode01.ovirt.org Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:09:03 -0700 Message-ID: <50131F8F.3000908@redhat.com> --===============6595669214554012738== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I was adding a cronjob to archive Apache logs ... one of those things I suddenly realized I wished I'd done six months ago ... and I noticed that the root crontab I wrote assumed the quiet time of the day would be Midnight Eastern timezone. I checked the graphs on linode.com and found our low time is 20:00 Eastern (8 pm)/Midnight UTC, rising to a peak at 14:00 UTC, then quickly back down toward 00:00. Of course, there are lots of other peaks during the day; I'm thinking more of the sustained baseline. (Refer to the attached usage graphs for the last 24 hours.) I switched the cronjobs to start at Midnight UTC, and then run over the course of an hour with long spaces in between. Just seemed like the right thing to do, so I did it; same with notifying, being it's a relatively minor change that couldn't disrupt any services. - - Karsten # Give root word about the backup MAILTO=3Droot # # Run five minutes after 8 pm Eastern/Midnight UTC at quietest time, every day 5 20 * * * /root/bin/wordpress-backup.sh # Run ten minutes after 8 pm Eastern/Midnight UTC at quietest time, every day 10 20 * * * /root/bin/mediawiki-backup.sh # Run thirty minutes after 8 pm Eastern/Midnight UTC every day, to clean out older than 7 days 30 20 * * * /root/bin/backup-cleanup.sh # Run forty-five minutes after 8 pm Eastern/Midnight UTC every day, to track subscriber trends 45 20 * * * /root/bin/mailman-subscriber-count.sh # Run fifty-five minutes after 8 pm Eastern/Midnight UTC every day, to archve Apache logs 55 20 * * * /root/bin/httpd_log_backup.sh ~ - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid 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email messages from Jenkins using this From header: From: Jenkins testing Server Can you please fix it to use the standard header of- From: Jenkins oVirt Server Otherwise our mail filtering rules will become unmaintainable... Thanks! Doron -- = /d "All computers wait at the same speed." --===============6835853312624881520==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Sun Jul 29 04:25:59 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8271893849224020741==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins emails Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:25:55 -0400 Message-ID: <5014F393.7020907@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 11699137.SKbZrk36Ts@doronf-laptop --===============8271893849224020741== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/29/2012 04:13 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: > Hi Robert, > Got a few email messages from Jenkins using this From header: > > From: Jenkins testing Server > > Can you please fix it to use the standard header of- > > From: Jenkins oVirt Server > > Otherwise our mail filtering rules will become unmaintainable... > > Thanks! > Doron > I was testing DR on the Jenkins backup and sent a lot of emails from my = testing system to the developers. Sorry you got one. They weren't = coming from Jenkins.ovirt.org. I am sorry you got those emails. Hopefully I was able to stop those. Thanks Robert PS I now have a test environment setup at jenkins.ovirt.info. Thanks Robert --===============8271893849224020741==-- From dfediuck at redhat.com Sun Jul 29 04:54:34 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6371744466414825205==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Doron Fediuck To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Jenkins emails Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:54:33 -0400 Message-ID: <1992438542.186686.1343552073191.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5014F393.7020907@middleswarth.net --===============6371744466414825205== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: "Doron Fediuck" > Cc: infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 11:25:55 AM > Subject: Re: Jenkins emails > = > On 07/29/2012 04:13 AM, Doron Fediuck wrote: > > Hi Robert, > > Got a few email messages from Jenkins using this From header: > > > > From: Jenkins testing Server > > > > Can you please fix it to use the standard header of- > > > > From: Jenkins oVirt Server > > > > Otherwise our mail filtering rules will become unmaintainable... > > > > Thanks! > > Doron > > > I was testing DR on the Jenkins backup and sent a lot of emails from > my > testing system to the developers. Sorry you got one. They weren't > coming from Jenkins.ovirt.org. > = > I am sorry you got those emails. Hopefully I was able to stop those. > = No harm done. Just remember people are struggling to tame the mail beast.. = > Thanks > Robert > = > PS I now have a test environment setup at jenkins.ovirt.info. > = That's good news. > Thanks > Robert >=20 --===============6371744466414825205==-- From iheim at redhat.com Sun Jul 29 16:19:07 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8911977328760851562==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: reminder: gerrit upgrade Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:19:03 +0300 Message-ID: <50159AB7.1050301@redhat.com> --===============8911977328760851562== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable gerrit will be upgraded in a few minutes. --===============8911977328760851562==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Sun Jul 29 16:25:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7001136823438835322==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Outage :: jenkins.ovirt.org :: 2012-07-29 2300 to 2400 UTC (7 pm EDT/4 pm PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:25:55 -0400 Message-ID: <50159C53.3030502@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFF7960.7000300@redhat.com --===============7001136823438835322== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable With the recent release of Jenkins 1.466.1 we are now two version behind = on the Jenkins builds. I am going to apply all update to = jenkins.ovirt.org. This will require taking the build server offline = for up to an hour. I will stop all new builds at 7:00 PM and allow any = that are running to complete. Then I will do a full backup and run all = updates. =3D=3D When =3D=3D 2300 to 2400 UTC date -d "2012-07-29 2300 UTC" =3D=3D Affected services =3D=3D Jenkins.ovirt.org -- = Thanks Robert Middleswarth @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) --===============7001136823438835322==-- From iheim at redhat.com Sun Jul 29 16:30:05 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2212345904085352270==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: reminder: gerrit upgrade Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:30:01 +0300 Message-ID: <50159D49.6090106@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 50159AB7.1050301@redhat.com --===============2212345904085352270== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/29/2012 11:19 PM, Itamar Heim wrote: > gerrit will be upgraded in a few minutes. gerrit has been upgraded to 2.4.2. worthy of notice is the new rebase button. http://gerrit-documentation.googlecode.com/svn/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotes-2.= 4.html http://gerrit-documentation.googlecode.com/svn/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotes-2.= 4.1.html http://gerrit-documentation.googlecode.com/svn/ReleaseNotes/ReleaseNotes-2.= 4.2.html after a few days of quiet time it will be upgraded to a custom 2.4.2 = with full patch in email body (patches are part of upstream gerrit for 2.5). --===============2212345904085352270==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Sun Jul 29 23:13:11 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5435314690800695488==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Outage :: jenkins.ovirt.org :: 2012-07-29 2300 to 2400 UTC (7 pm EDT/4 pm PDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 23:13:09 -0400 Message-ID: <5015FBC5.9080101@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 50159C53.3030502@middleswarth.net --===============5435314690800695488== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/29/2012 04:25 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > With the recent release of Jenkins 1.466.1 we are now two version = > behind on the Jenkins builds. I am going to apply all update to = > jenkins.ovirt.org. This will require taking the build server offline = > for up to an hour. I will stop all new builds at 7:00 PM and allow = > any that are running to complete. Then I will do a full backup and = > run all updates. > > =3D=3D When =3D=3D > 2300 to 2400 UTC > date -d "2012-07-29 2300 UTC" > > =3D=3D Affected services =3D=3D > Jenkins.ovirt.org > It took longer then expected in part because a build had to finish = before I could start the backup that was close to an hour. Then backup = also took 40 Min. The actually downtime was kept to under 30 min. -- = Thanks Robert Middleswarth @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) --===============5435314690800695488==-- From kwade at redhat.com Mon Jul 30 13:04:58 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9098181320454729543==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Outage :: jenkins.ovirt.org :: 2012-07-29 2300 to 2400 UTC (7 pm EDT/4 pm PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 10:04:48 -0700 Message-ID: <5016BEB0.9030204@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5015FBC5.9080101@middleswarth.net --===============9098181320454729543== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/29/2012 08:13 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/29/2012 04:25 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> With the recent release of Jenkins 1.466.1 we are now two >> version behind on the Jenkins builds. I am going to apply all >> update to jenkins.ovirt.org. This will require taking the build >> server offline for up to an hour. I will stop all new builds at >> 7:00 PM and allow any that are running to complete. Then I will >> do a full backup and run all updates. >> = >> =3D=3D When =3D=3D 2300 to 2400 UTC date -d "2012-07-29 2300 UTC" >> = >> =3D=3D Affected services =3D=3D Jenkins.ovirt.org >> = > It took longer then expected in part because a build had to finish = > before I could start the backup that was close to an hour. Then > backup also took 40 Min. The actually downtime was kept to under > 30 min. Looks great, thanks. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQFr6w2ZIOBq0ODEERAnwtAKDela8NpdXar/awPBO3dtG2brVmtACgliz1 lm/tQsl2Alg6eCxm9PvYlNo=3D =3Dnd8F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============9098181320454729543==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 02:46:32 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6528169851137130604==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 02:46:32 -0400 Message-ID: <1564436814.5666906.1343717192377.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1585828243.5657923.1343716007163.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============6528169851137130604== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, after looking into the process and testing it via jenkins.ovirt.info, here = is my proposal: 1. Nightly job [1] will collect rpms from all ovirt projects (other jenkins= jobs that build rpms per commit). 1.1 all files will be kept in a flat dir under $WORKSPCE/rpms = 1.2 using 'publish over ssh' [2] plugin the job will then copy files to = their destination according to their names. [3] for e.g 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.noarch.rpm' =3D=3D> ovirt.org/va= r/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/noarch 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.src.rpm' =3D=3D> ovirt.org/var/w= ww/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/src 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.bz2' =3D=3D> ovirt.org/var/www/html/r= eleases/nightly/src' = 1.3 publish ssh plugin can execute a command after its done copying the = file, so all is left is to run 'createrepo' on the relevant dirs. [4] = 2. a separate cron cleaning script needs to run on ovirt.org to delete old = rpms and run createrepo. = +1 for pushing this forward or comments? = Eyal. [1] http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly/, thi= s job currently works only for fedora17 rpms (that's what we have now). we'll need to improve it to be more generic (maybe as a matrix job) or = duplicate it for each opertating system. [2] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Publish+Over+SSH+Plugin, us= ing pub/private key with user jenkins to connect [3] jenkins user will need r/q permissions to the nightly folder [4] will need sudo access for it.=20 --===============6528169851137130604==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 08:33:02 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5537738177750365471==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:33:01 -0400 Message-ID: <1343737981.28966.7.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 1564436814.5666906.1343717192377.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============5537738177750365471== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 02:46 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > Hi, > = > after looking into the process and testing it via jenkins.ovirt.info, > here is my proposal: > = > 1. Nightly job [1] will collect rpms from all ovirt projects (other > jenkins jobs that build rpms per commit). > 1.1 all files will be kept in a flat dir under $WORKSPCE/rpms = > 1.2 using 'publish over ssh' [2] plugin the job will then copy > files to their destination according to their names. [3] > for e.g 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.noarch.rpm' =3D=3D> > ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/noarch > 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.src.rpm' =3D=3D> > ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/src > 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.bz2' =3D=3D> > ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/src' = > 1.3 publish ssh plugin can execute a command after its done copying > the file, so all is left is to run 'createrepo' on the relevant dirs. > [4] > = > = > 2. a separate cron cleaning script needs to run on ovirt.org to delete > old rpms and run createrepo. = > = Maybe upload to a non-published directory first, like /home/jenkins/nightly, and have the cron job handle cleanup of old rpms, adding of new rpms, and running createrepo? If not, how is the cron job going to cleanup old rpms? Uploading to a static location that isn't public (and is under /home/jenkins) would make [3] and [4] unnecessary. I think I'd rather avoid having a non-user with sudo and r/w on a publicly served folder. The publish ssh plugin can touch a file /home/jenkins/nightly/FINISHED when it's done, the cron job locally on ovirt.org can watch for that file and then process the directory structure. Mike > = > +1 for pushing this forward or comments? = > = > Eyal. > = > = > [1] > http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly/, > this job currently works only for fedora17 rpms (that's what we have > now). > we'll need to improve it to be more generic (maybe as a matrix > job) or duplicate it for each opertating system. > [2] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Publish+Over+SSH > +Plugin, using pub/private key with user jenkins to connect > [3] jenkins user will need r/q permissions to the nightly folder > [4] will need sudo access for it. = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============5537738177750365471==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 08:51:07 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1639343288878584384==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:51:07 -0400 Message-ID: <452656244.6058090.1343739067600.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1343737981.28966.7.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============1639343288878584384== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Burns" > To: "Eyal Edri" > Cc: "infra" > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:33:01 PM > Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org > = > On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 02:46 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > > Hi, > > = > > after looking into the process and testing it via > > jenkins.ovirt.info, > > here is my proposal: > > = > > 1. Nightly job [1] will collect rpms from all ovirt projects (other > > jenkins jobs that build rpms per commit). > > 1.1 all files will be kept in a flat dir under $WORKSPCE/rpms > > 1.2 using 'publish over ssh' [2] plugin the job will then copy > > files to their destination according to their names. [3] > > for e.g 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.noarch.rpm' =3D=3D> > > ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/noarch > > 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.src.rpm' =3D=3D> > > ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/src > > 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.bz2' =3D=3D> > > ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/src' > > 1.3 publish ssh plugin can execute a command after its done > > copying > > the file, so all is left is to run 'createrepo' on the relevant > > dirs. > > [4] > > = > > = > > 2. a separate cron cleaning script needs to run on ovirt.org to > > delete > > old rpms and run createrepo. > > = > = > Maybe upload to a non-published directory first, > like /home/jenkins/nightly, and have the cron job handle cleanup of > old > rpms, adding of new rpms, and running createrepo? sure, i've got not problem with that.. = there is one thing i don't understand, and sorry if not an expert in yum: we say we want to keep history for X builds, will all versions be kept unde= r one repository? = so 'createrepo' will run on all versions in that directory? = so running yum install file.verX will work even if the repo has a x+1 versi= on? > = > If not, how is the cron job going to cleanup old rpms? > = > Uploading to a static location that isn't public (and is > under /home/jenkins) would make [3] and [4] unnecessary. I think I'd > rather avoid having a non-user with sudo and r/w on a publicly served > folder. > = sounds right. > The publish ssh plugin can touch a file > /home/jenkins/nightly/FINISHED > when it's done, the cron job locally on ovirt.org can watch for that > file and then process the directory structure. good idea, we can have the cronjob monitor the dir for the FINISHED file, and delete it when it's done. > = > Mike > = > > = > > +1 for pushing this forward or comments? > > = > > Eyal. > > = > > = > > [1] > > http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly/, > > this job currently works only for fedora17 rpms (that's what we > > have > > now). > > we'll need to improve it to be more generic (maybe as a matrix > > job) or duplicate it for each opertating system. > > [2] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Publish+Over+SSH > > +Plugin, using pub/private key with user jenkins to connect > > [3] jenkins user will need r/q permissions to the nightly folder > > [4] will need sudo access for it. > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = >=20 --===============1639343288878584384==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 31 09:13:15 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8838740216962477950==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:13:12 -0400 Message-ID: <5017D9E8.2010408@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 452656244.6058090.1343739067600.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============8838740216962477950== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/31/2012 08:51 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Burns" >> To: "Eyal Edri" >> Cc: "infra" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:33:01 PM >> Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org >> >> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 02:46 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> after looking into the process and testing it via >>> jenkins.ovirt.info, >>> here is my proposal: >>> >>> 1. Nightly job [1] will collect rpms from all ovirt projects (other >>> jenkins jobs that build rpms per commit). >>> 1.1 all files will be kept in a flat dir under $WORKSPCE/rpms >>> 1.2 using 'publish over ssh' [2] plugin the job will then copy >>> files to their destination according to their names. [3] >>> for e.g 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.noarch.rpm' =3D=3D> >>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/noarch >>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.src.rpm' =3D=3D> >>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/src >>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.bz2' =3D=3D> >>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/src' >>> 1.3 publish ssh plugin can execute a command after its done >>> copying >>> the file, so all is left is to run 'createrepo' on the relevant >>> dirs. >>> [4] >>> = >>> >>> 2. a separate cron cleaning script needs to run on ovirt.org to >>> delete >>> old rpms and run createrepo. >>> >> Maybe upload to a non-published directory first, >> like /home/jenkins/nightly, and have the cron job handle cleanup of >> old >> rpms, adding of new rpms, and running createrepo? > sure, i've got not problem with that.. > > there is one thing i don't understand, and sorry if not an expert in yum: > > we say we want to keep history for X builds, will all versions be kept un= der one repository? > so 'createrepo' will run on all versions in that directory? > > so running yum install file.verX will work even if the repo has a x+1 ver= sion? If you look at existing repo's many of them will include old versions of = the package yum / create repo will simple use the latest version in the = repo that meets all the requirements. Example when we first moved from = vdsm 4.9 to 4.10 the repo's got really screwy until all the packages = were rebuilt. In that case the older 4.9 builds would get used until = all the packages were in place then the newer versions would get used. > >> If not, how is the cron job going to cleanup old rpms? >> >> Uploading to a static location that isn't public (and is >> under /home/jenkins) would make [3] and [4] unnecessary. I think I'd >> rather avoid having a non-user with sudo and r/w on a publicly served >> folder. >> > sounds right. > >> The publish ssh plugin can touch a file >> /home/jenkins/nightly/FINISHED >> when it's done, the cron job locally on ovirt.org can watch for that >> file and then process the directory structure. +1 This is the approach I was thinking about. > good idea, we can have the cronjob monitor the dir for the FINISHED file, > and delete it when it's done. > >> Mike >> >>> +1 for pushing this forward or comments? >>> >>> Eyal. >>> >>> >>> [1] >>> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly/, >>> this job currently works only for fedora17 rpms (that's what we >>> have >>> now). >>> we'll need to improve it to be more generic (maybe as a matrix >>> job) or duplicate it for each opertating system. >>> [2] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Publish+Over+SSH >>> +Plugin, using pub/private key with user jenkins to connect >>> [3] jenkins user will need r/q permissions to the nightly folder >>> [4] will need sudo access for it. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Infra mailing list >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra -- = Thanks Robert Middleswarth @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) --===============8838740216962477950==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 10:37:20 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0301006342590517198==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:37:17 -0700 Message-ID: <5017ED9D.10607@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: ba24c1f1-7d73-4b48-9871-55054507ba89@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============0301006342590517198== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/18/2012 04:05 AM, Eyal Edri wrote:> Hi, > = > Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the = > security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs (i.e > any code) with every gerrit patch. > = > - white-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) ... I think the consensus we are leaning toward is this: * Use a whitelist to identify who can have Jenkins jobs triggered when a patch hits Gerrit. * Keep the whitelist on the wiki, so it's clear who has access, and the list can be used by all Jenkins hosts. * Current whitelist is built from current committers (from git log). ** compare the whitelist with the current GERRIT_AUTHOR or similar value. Do we want to build-in the ability to check a blacklist, too? Or just use "absence from whitelist"? For example, is there going to be a desire to have someone not be able to automatically run a test on certain parts of the code, but yes on others? - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQF+2d2ZIOBq0ODEERAmxqAKDNHOfAEHwfTbQz/Yubo3iApBdUYwCePkPC D9M+eLnNAaUv2Y0+yVWA+3o=3D =3DHmZo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============0301006342590517198==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 10:44:45 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3419962502109071746==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Moving Jenkins master ASAP Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:44:43 -0700 Message-ID: <5017EF5B.3070704@redhat.com> --===============3419962502109071746== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We need to pick a new hosting solution for jenkins.ovirt.org. One idea is for us to throw out some favorite hosting providers here, and see if we can sort out what would be a good solution. Other ideas have been floated. Ideally, we'll get more hardware in the future via some hosting that Red Hat is working on providing for projects. In the meantime ... Do any other sponsoring organizations have resources we can look in to? Once we pick something, we can move it all fairly quickly, I think. Can we target the end of this week? Perhaps, if we don't run in to any complications ... - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQF+9b2ZIOBq0ODEERAgztAKCKGv3WgUlIpOQ3AvgnY7V+r42C0ACffdb7 CA0i4zoGWeWGS52n3tW/SLk=3D =3DxKs6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============3419962502109071746==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 10:52:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5198239353845890812==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Moving Jenkins master ASAP Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:52:25 -0700 Message-ID: <5017F129.5050706@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5017EF5B.3070704@redhat.com --===============5198239353845890812== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/31/2012 07:44 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > We need to pick a new hosting solution for jenkins.ovirt.org. > = > One idea is for us to throw out some favorite hosting providers > here, and see if we can sort out what would be a good solution. This post is what made me aware that EC2 would be a dead-end for us for now: http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-big-ripoff/ In that post, the author used this host for comparison testing: http://joesdatacenter.com/ - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQF/Ep2ZIOBq0ODEERAtI+AJ4syPPz7jll19ypBy5IsjtcfqhNYQCfRKW2 Wvwb/Vd3wltWNnmOZD+OmLI=3D =3DG1Ud -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5198239353845890812==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 11:03:10 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0326253616472944868==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:03:07 -0400 Message-ID: <1343746987.28966.36.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 5017D9E8.2010408@middleswarth.net --===============0326253616472944868== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 09:13 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/31/2012 08:51 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Mike Burns" > >> To: "Eyal Edri" > >> Cc: "infra" > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:33:01 PM > >> Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org > >> > >> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 02:46 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> after looking into the process and testing it via > >>> jenkins.ovirt.info, > >>> here is my proposal: > >>> > >>> 1. Nightly job [1] will collect rpms from all ovirt projects (other > >>> jenkins jobs that build rpms per commit). > >>> 1.1 all files will be kept in a flat dir under $WORKSPCE/rpms > >>> 1.2 using 'publish over ssh' [2] plugin the job will then copy > >>> files to their destination according to their names. [3] > >>> for e.g 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.noarch.rpm' =3D=3D> > >>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/noarch > >>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.src.rpm' =3D=3D> > >>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/src > >>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.bz2' =3D=3D> > >>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/src' > >>> 1.3 publish ssh plugin can execute a command after its done > >>> copying > >>> the file, so all is left is to run 'createrepo' on the relevant > >>> dirs. > >>> [4] > >>> = > >>> > >>> 2. a separate cron cleaning script needs to run on ovirt.org to > >>> delete > >>> old rpms and run createrepo. > >>> > >> Maybe upload to a non-published directory first, > >> like /home/jenkins/nightly, and have the cron job handle cleanup of > >> old > >> rpms, adding of new rpms, and running createrepo? > > sure, i've got not problem with that.. > > > > there is one thing i don't understand, and sorry if not an expert in yu= m: > > > > we say we want to keep history for X builds, will all versions be kept = under one repository? > > so 'createrepo' will run on all versions in that directory? > > > > so running yum install file.verX will work even if the repo has a x+1 v= ersion? > If you look at existing repo's many of them will include old versions of = > the package yum / create repo will simple use the latest version in the = > repo that meets all the requirements. Example when we first moved from = > vdsm 4.9 to 4.10 the repo's got really screwy until all the packages = > were rebuilt. In that case the older 4.9 builds would get used until = > all the packages were in place then the newer versions would get used. If we still want to keep multiple night's versions, then we can have the cron job run and create a new directory called: cd /var/www/html/releases mkdir nightly-$(date +%Y%m%d) # move all content from /home/jenkins to new nightly- directory ln -snf nightly-$(date +%Y%m%d) nightly rm -rf nightly-$(date -d "3 days ago" +%Y%m%d) Mike > > > >> If not, how is the cron job going to cleanup old rpms? > >> > >> Uploading to a static location that isn't public (and is > >> under /home/jenkins) would make [3] and [4] unnecessary. I think I'd > >> rather avoid having a non-user with sudo and r/w on a publicly served > >> folder. > >> > > sounds right. > > > >> The publish ssh plugin can touch a file > >> /home/jenkins/nightly/FINISHED > >> when it's done, the cron job locally on ovirt.org can watch for that > >> file and then process the directory structure. > +1 This is the approach I was thinking about. > > good idea, we can have the cronjob monitor the dir for the FINISHED fil= e, > > and delete it when it's done. > > > >> Mike > >> > >>> +1 for pushing this forward or comments? > >>> > >>> Eyal. > >>> > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly/, > >>> this job currently works only for fedora17 rpms (that's what we > >>> have > >>> now). > >>> we'll need to improve it to be more generic (maybe as a matrix > >>> job) or duplicate it for each opertating system. > >>> [2] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Publish+Over+SSH > >>> +Plugin, using pub/private key with user jenkins to connect > >>> [3] jenkins user will need r/q permissions to the nightly folder > >>> [4] will need sudo access for it. > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Infra mailing list > >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = --===============0326253616472944868==-- From kwade at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 11:09:44 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8142879655684765798==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Meeting :: Infra Team weekly 2012-07-31 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:09:42 -0700 Message-ID: <5017F536.1060401@redhat.com> --===============8142879655684765798== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We had some trouble with the meetbot (because I started the meeting, then changed my nick from Guest1332, and couldn't change back to control the meeting). Here is the log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2012/ovirt.2012-07-31-14.01.log.txt - From that I have these URLs and actions: http://wiki.ovirt.org/wiki/Infrastructure_team_meetings#2012-07-31 http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/ Actions: * eedri to write up wiki page about connecting to jenkins.ovirt.org with a jnlp port; post page to arch@ * rmiddle and eedir to finish up auto nightly repo this week. * quaid to start thread on finishing the Get Jenkins a New Host discussion, so we can pick a hosting solution and move ASAP - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFQF/U22ZIOBq0ODEERAnI6AKDbx3XcAZDQ2zRVUzdw6xnvZl1LlACfRoh1 sCXOZgo2NSdesPI522LMa4w=3D =3DtLuH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============8142879655684765798==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 11:15:56 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0849117240290027106==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Moving Jenkins master ASAP Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 11:12:30 -0400 Message-ID: <1343747550.28966.38.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net> In-Reply-To: 5017EF5B.3070704@redhat.com --===============0849117240290027106== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adding board list... I'm hoping with a wider audience, we might get additional feedback on hosting solutions. Mike On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 07:44 -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > We need to pick a new hosting solution for jenkins.ovirt.org. > = > One idea is for us to throw out some favorite hosting providers here, > and see if we can sort out what would be a good solution. > = > Other ideas have been floated. > = > Ideally, we'll get more hardware in the future via some hosting that > Red Hat is working on providing for projects. In the meantime ... > = > Do any other sponsoring organizations have resources we can look in to? > = > Once we pick something, we can move it all fairly quickly, I think. > Can we target the end of this week? Perhaps, if we don't run in to any > complications ... > = > - Karsten > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============0849117240290027106==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 31 12:55:51 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2151136729392644215==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:55:49 -0400 Message-ID: <50180E15.1080402@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 5017ED9D.10607@redhat.com --===============2151136729392644215== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/31/2012 10:37 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/18/2012 04:05 AM, Eyal Edri wrote:> Hi, >> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the >> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs (i.e >> any code) with every gerrit patch. >> >> - white-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) ... > I think the consensus we are leaning toward is this: > > * Use a whitelist to identify who can have Jenkins jobs triggered when > a patch hits Gerrit. > * Keep the whitelist on the wiki, so it's clear who has access, and > the list can be used by all Jenkins hosts. I would prefer wordpress to prevent someone from just adding themselves. > * Current whitelist is built from current committers (from git log). > ** compare the whitelist with the current GERRIT_AUTHOR or similar value. > > Do we want to build-in the ability to check a blacklist, too? Or just > use "absence from whitelist"? > > For example, is there going to be a desire to have someone not be able > to automatically run a test on certain parts of the code, but yes on > others? That isn't a black list that is an itemized white list and at this stage = I don't see a point to it. What tests / jobs would your run diff from = the kinda trusted list vs the completely untrusted list? It not like the = list is going to be used to allow people to change Jenkins it is just = going to be there to allow commit's to generate builds. If we have a = list of people we fell is safe enough to run test against how much more = exposure will there be also allowing auto builds? And if we do come up = with test that we feel can be run on all commits we would run them on = all not just a small subset of commits. Thanks Robert > > - - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFQF+2d2ZIOBq0ODEERAmxqAKDNHOfAEHwfTbQz/Yubo3iApBdUYwCePkPC > D9M+eLnNAaUv2Y0+yVWA+3o=3D > =3DHmZo > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra -- = Thanks Robert Middleswarth @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) --===============2151136729392644215==-- From eedri at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 13:19:12 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5612961072921119352==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:19:10 -0400 Message-ID: <906142508.6275301.1343755150410.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 50180E15.1080402@middleswarth.net --===============5612961072921119352== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Middleswarth" > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:55:49 PM > Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins > = > On 07/31/2012 10:37 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 07/18/2012 04:05 AM, Eyal Edri wrote:> Hi, > >> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the > >> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs > >> (i.e > >> any code) with every gerrit patch. > >> > >> - white-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) ... > > I think the consensus we are leaning toward is this: > > > > * Use a whitelist to identify who can have Jenkins jobs triggered > > when > > a patch hits Gerrit. > > * Keep the whitelist on the wiki, so it's clear who has access, and > > the list can be used by all Jenkins hosts. > I would prefer wordpress to prevent someone from just adding > themselves. > > * Current whitelist is built from current committers (from git > > log). > > ** compare the whitelist with the current GERRIT_AUTHOR or similar > > value. > > > > Do we want to build-in the ability to check a blacklist, too? Or > > just > > use "absence from whitelist"? > > > > For example, is there going to be a desire to have someone not be > > able > > to automatically run a test on certain parts of the code, but yes > > on > > others? > That isn't a black list that is an itemized white list and at this > stage > I don't see a point to it. What tests / jobs would your run diff > from > the kinda trusted list vs the completely untrusted list? It not like > the > list is going to be used to allow people to change Jenkins it is just > going to be there to allow commit's to generate builds. If we have a > list of people we fell is safe enough to run test against how much > more > exposure will there be also allowing auto builds? And if we do come > up > with test that we feel can be run on all commits we would run them on > all not just a small subset of commits. > = btw, this kind of logic might justify a jenkins plugin, or at least an exte= nsion to the gerrit trigger plugin. it might interest other people as well. > Thanks > Robert > = > > > > - - Karsten > > - -- > > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iD8DBQFQF+2d2ZIOBq0ODEERAmxqAKDNHOfAEHwfTbQz/Yubo3iApBdUYwCePkPC > > D9M+eLnNAaUv2Y0+yVWA+3o=3D > > =3DHmZo > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = > -- > Thanks > Robert Middleswarth > @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============5612961072921119352==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 31 13:35:28 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7211849207578233747==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 13:35:25 -0400 Message-ID: <5018175D.7080104@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 906142508.6275301.1343755150410.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============7211849207578233747== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/31/2012 01:19 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Middleswarth" >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:55:49 PM >> Subject: Re: Security issues when running gerrit patches on jenkins >> >> On 07/31/2012 10:37 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 07/18/2012 04:05 AM, Eyal Edri wrote:> Hi, >>>> Following last infra meeting, i want to open for discussion the >>>> security issues that may arise if we allow Jenkins to run jobs >>>> (i.e >>>> any code) with every gerrit patch. >>>> >>>> - white-listing authors (published on ovirt.org?) ... >>> I think the consensus we are leaning toward is this: >>> >>> * Use a whitelist to identify who can have Jenkins jobs triggered >>> when >>> a patch hits Gerrit. >>> * Keep the whitelist on the wiki, so it's clear who has access, and >>> the list can be used by all Jenkins hosts. >> I would prefer wordpress to prevent someone from just adding >> themselves. >>> * Current whitelist is built from current committers (from git >>> log). >>> ** compare the whitelist with the current GERRIT_AUTHOR or similar >>> value. >>> >>> Do we want to build-in the ability to check a blacklist, too? Or >>> just >>> use "absence from whitelist"? >>> >>> For example, is there going to be a desire to have someone not be >>> able >>> to automatically run a test on certain parts of the code, but yes >>> on >>> others? >> That isn't a black list that is an itemized white list and at this >> stage >> I don't see a point to it. What tests / jobs would your run diff >> from >> the kinda trusted list vs the completely untrusted list? It not like >> the >> list is going to be used to allow people to change Jenkins it is just >> going to be there to allow commit's to generate builds. If we have a >> list of people we fell is safe enough to run test against how much >> more >> exposure will there be also allowing auto builds? And if we do come >> up >> with test that we feel can be run on all commits we would run them on >> all not just a small subset of commits. >> > btw, this kind of logic might justify a jenkins plugin, or at least an ex= tension to the gerrit trigger plugin. > it might interest other people as well. I haven't looked at the plug-in structure so if you can reuse the = interface for the admin matrix and just let you select people from the = people list that would be a great add-on. > >> Thanks >> Robert >> >>> - - Karsten >>> - -- >>> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >>> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >>> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >>> >>> iD8DBQFQF+2d2ZIOBq0ODEERAmxqAKDNHOfAEHwfTbQz/Yubo3iApBdUYwCePkPC >>> D9M+eLnNAaUv2Y0+yVWA+3o=3D >>> =3DHmZo >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Infra mailing list >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> >> -- >> Thanks >> Robert Middleswarth >> @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> -- = Thanks Robert Middleswarth @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) --===============7211849207578233747==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 31 14:02:19 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2441575940476867164==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:02:17 -0400 Message-ID: <50181DA9.5070408@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 1343746987.28966.36.camel@beelzebub.mburnsfire.net --===============2441575940476867164== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/31/2012 11:03 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 09:13 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> On 07/31/2012 08:51 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mike Burns" >>>> To: "Eyal Edri" >>>> Cc: "infra" >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:33:01 PM >>>> Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org >>>> >>>> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 02:46 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> after looking into the process and testing it via >>>>> jenkins.ovirt.info, >>>>> here is my proposal: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Nightly job [1] will collect rpms from all ovirt projects (other >>>>> jenkins jobs that build rpms per commit). >>>>> 1.1 all files will be kept in a flat dir under $WORKSPCE/rpms >>>>> 1.2 using 'publish over ssh' [2] plugin the job will then copy >>>>> files to their destination according to their names. [3] >>>>> for e.g 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.noarch.rpm' =3D=3D> >>>>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/noarch >>>>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.src.rpm' =3D=3D> >>>>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/src >>>>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.bz2' =3D=3D> >>>>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/src' >>>>> 1.3 publish ssh plugin can execute a command after its done >>>>> copying >>>>> the file, so all is left is to run 'createrepo' on the relevant >>>>> dirs. >>>>> [4] >>>>> = >>>>> >>>>> 2. a separate cron cleaning script needs to run on ovirt.org to >>>>> delete >>>>> old rpms and run createrepo. >>>>> >>>> Maybe upload to a non-published directory first, >>>> like /home/jenkins/nightly, and have the cron job handle cleanup of >>>> old >>>> rpms, adding of new rpms, and running createrepo? >>> sure, i've got not problem with that.. >>> >>> there is one thing i don't understand, and sorry if not an expert in yu= m: >>> >>> we say we want to keep history for X builds, will all versions be kept = under one repository? >>> so 'createrepo' will run on all versions in that directory? >>> >>> so running yum install file.verX will work even if the repo has a x+1 v= ersion? >> If you look at existing repo's many of them will include old versions of >> the package yum / create repo will simple use the latest version in the >> repo that meets all the requirements. Example when we first moved from >> vdsm 4.9 to 4.10 the repo's got really screwy until all the packages >> were rebuilt. In that case the older 4.9 builds would get used until >> all the packages were in place then the newer versions would get used. > > If we still want to keep multiple night's versions, then we can have the > cron job run and create a new directory called: > > cd /var/www/html/releases > mkdir nightly-$(date +%Y%m%d) > # move all content from /home/jenkins to new nightly- directory > ln -snf nightly-$(date +%Y%m%d) nightly > rm -rf nightly-$(date -d "3 days ago" +%Y%m%d) > > Mike Why recreate the wheel. www.hyperdrifter.com/software/tidy_rpm_cache.html Example usages: tidy-rpm-cache.py --dir=3D/tmp/packages --num-obsolete=3D3 Thanks Robert > >>>> If not, how is the cron job going to cleanup old rpms? >>>> >>>> Uploading to a static location that isn't public (and is >>>> under /home/jenkins) would make [3] and [4] unnecessary. I think I'd >>>> rather avoid having a non-user with sudo and r/w on a publicly served >>>> folder. >>>> >>> sounds right. >>> >>>> The publish ssh plugin can touch a file >>>> /home/jenkins/nightly/FINISHED >>>> when it's done, the cron job locally on ovirt.org can watch for that >>>> file and then process the directory structure. >> +1 This is the approach I was thinking about. >>> good idea, we can have the cronjob monitor the dir for the FINISHED fil= e, >>> and delete it when it's done. >>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>>> +1 for pushing this forward or comments? >>>>> >>>>> Eyal. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [1] >>>>> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly/, >>>>> this job currently works only for fedora17 rpms (that's what we >>>>> have >>>>> now). >>>>> we'll need to improve it to be more generic (maybe as a matrix >>>>> job) or duplicate it for each opertating system. >>>>> [2] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Publish+Over+SSH >>>>> +Plugin, using pub/private key with user jenkins to connect >>>>> [3] jenkins user will need r/q permissions to the nightly folder >>>>> [4] will need sudo access for it. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Infra mailing list >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Infra mailing list >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> > -- = Thanks Robert Middleswarth @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) --===============2441575940476867164==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Tue Jul 31 14:16:39 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1110475340846575160==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Moving Jenkins master ASAP Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:16:25 +0200 Message-ID: <20120731181624.GD4725@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 5017F129.5050706@redhat.com --===============1110475340846575160== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 07:52:25AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On 07/31/2012 07:44 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > > We need to pick a new hosting solution for jenkins.ovirt.org. > > > > One idea is for us to throw out some favorite hosting providers > > here, and see if we can sort out what would be a good solution. > > This post is what made me aware that EC2 would be a dead-end for us > for now: > > http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-big-ripoff/ > > In that post, the author used this host for comparison testing: > > http://joesdatacenter.com/ My employer is a hosting provider so I'm somewhat biased here. --===============1110475340846575160==-- From mburns at redhat.com Tue Jul 31 14:30:22 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5346789117956482582==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:30:19 -0400 Message-ID: <1343759419.20790.3.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 50181DA9.5070408@middleswarth.net --===============5346789117956482582== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 14:02 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/31/2012 11:03 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > > On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 09:13 -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > >> On 07/31/2012 08:51 AM, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Mike Burns" > >>>> To: "Eyal Edri" > >>>> Cc: "infra" > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:33:01 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: how to get files from jenkins.ovirt.org to www.ovirt.org > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 02:46 -0400, Eyal Edri wrote: > >>>>> Hi, > >>>>> > >>>>> after looking into the process and testing it via > >>>>> jenkins.ovirt.info, > >>>>> here is my proposal: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1. Nightly job [1] will collect rpms from all ovirt projects (other > >>>>> jenkins jobs that build rpms per commit). > >>>>> 1.1 all files will be kept in a flat dir under $WORKSPCE/rpms > >>>>> 1.2 using 'publish over ssh' [2] plugin the job will then copy > >>>>> files to their destination according to their names. [3] > >>>>> for e.g 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.noarch.rpm' =3D=3D> > >>>>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/noarch > >>>>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.fc17.src.rpm' =3D=3D> > >>>>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/rpm/Fedora/17/src > >>>>> 'ovirt-engine-3.1.0-3.bz2' =3D=3D> > >>>>> ovirt.org/var/www/html/releases/nightly/src' > >>>>> 1.3 publish ssh plugin can execute a command after its done > >>>>> copying > >>>>> the file, so all is left is to run 'createrepo' on the relevant > >>>>> dirs. > >>>>> [4] > >>>>> = > >>>>> > >>>>> 2. a separate cron cleaning script needs to run on ovirt.org to > >>>>> delete > >>>>> old rpms and run createrepo. > >>>>> > >>>> Maybe upload to a non-published directory first, > >>>> like /home/jenkins/nightly, and have the cron job handle cleanup of > >>>> old > >>>> rpms, adding of new rpms, and running createrepo? > >>> sure, i've got not problem with that.. > >>> > >>> there is one thing i don't understand, and sorry if not an expert in = yum: > >>> > >>> we say we want to keep history for X builds, will all versions be kep= t under one repository? > >>> so 'createrepo' will run on all versions in that directory? > >>> > >>> so running yum install file.verX will work even if the repo has a x+1= version? > >> If you look at existing repo's many of them will include old versions = of > >> the package yum / create repo will simple use the latest version in the > >> repo that meets all the requirements. Example when we first moved from > >> vdsm 4.9 to 4.10 the repo's got really screwy until all the packages > >> were rebuilt. In that case the older 4.9 builds would get used until > >> all the packages were in place then the newer versions would get used. > > > > If we still want to keep multiple night's versions, then we can have the > > cron job run and create a new directory called: > > > > cd /var/www/html/releases > > mkdir nightly-$(date +%Y%m%d) > > # move all content from /home/jenkins to new nightly- directory > > ln -snf nightly-$(date +%Y%m%d) nightly > > rm -rf nightly-$(date -d "3 days ago" +%Y%m%d) > > > > Mike > Why recreate the wheel. www.hyperdrifter.com/software/tidy_rpm_cache.html > = > Example usages: tidy-rpm-cache.py --dir=3D/tmp/packages --num-obsolete= =3D3 Works for me... Mike > = > Thanks > Robert > > > >>>> If not, how is the cron job going to cleanup old rpms? > >>>> > >>>> Uploading to a static location that isn't public (and is > >>>> under /home/jenkins) would make [3] and [4] unnecessary. I think I'd > >>>> rather avoid having a non-user with sudo and r/w on a publicly served > >>>> folder. > >>>> > >>> sounds right. > >>> > >>>> The publish ssh plugin can touch a file > >>>> /home/jenkins/nightly/FINISHED > >>>> when it's done, the cron job locally on ovirt.org can watch for that > >>>> file and then process the directory structure. > >> +1 This is the approach I was thinking about. > >>> good idea, we can have the cronjob monitor the dir for the FINISHED f= ile, > >>> and delete it when it's done. > >>> > >>>> Mike > >>>> > >>>>> +1 for pushing this forward or comments? > >>>>> > >>>>> Eyal. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [1] > >>>>> http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/rpms/job/publish_ovirt_rpms_nightly/, > >>>>> this job currently works only for fedora17 rpms (that's what we > >>>>> have > >>>>> now). > >>>>> we'll need to improve it to be more generic (maybe as a matrix > >>>>> job) or duplicate it for each opertating system. > >>>>> [2] https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Publish+Over+SSH > >>>>> +Plugin, using pub/private key with user jenkins to connect > >>>>> [3] jenkins user will need r/q permissions to the nightly folder > >>>>> [4] will need sudo access for it. > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Infra mailing list > >>>>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Infra mailing list > >>> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > > > = > = --===============5346789117956482582==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Tue Jul 31 14:57:58 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0403800614446364334==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Moving Jenkins master ASAP Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:57:56 -0400 Message-ID: <50182AB4.6030603@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 20120731181624.GD4725@bogey.xentower.nl --===============0403800614446364334== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/31/2012 02:16 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 07:52:25AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >> On 07/31/2012 07:44 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: >>> We need to pick a new hosting solution for jenkins.ovirt.org. >>> >>> One idea is for us to throw out some favorite hosting providers >>> here, and see if we can sort out what would be a good solution. >> This post is what made me aware that EC2 would be a dead-end for us >> for now: >> >> http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-big-ripoff/ >> >> In that post, the author used this host for comparison testing: >> >> http://joesdatacenter.com/ > My employer is a hosting provider so I'm somewhat biased here. > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra It not just about the provider. I would need to see the bandwidth = charts on the current Jenkins but I assume Just about any provider can = handle it bandwidth needs. But the server Jenkins Master needs to run = on. EC2 isn't cutting it. My testing box is a basic Sata drive and it = is running much faster but there is no user load on the box. We really = need a box with raid 10 drives in it to handle the high IO needs. -- = Thanks Robert Middleswarth @rmiddle (twitter/IRC) --===============0403800614446364334==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Tue Jul 31 19:12:55 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6498164167171497989==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Moving Jenkins master ASAP Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:12:42 +0200 Message-ID: <20120731231242.GE4725@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 50182AB4.6030603@middleswarth.net --===============6498164167171497989== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 02:57:56PM -0400, Robert Middleswarth wrote: > On 07/31/2012 02:16 PM, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 07:52:25AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>On 07/31/2012 07:44 AM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > >>>We need to pick a new hosting solution for jenkins.ovirt.org. > >>> > >>>One idea is for us to throw out some favorite hosting providers > >>>here, and see if we can sort out what would be a good solution. > >>This post is what made me aware that EC2 would be a dead-end for us > >>for now: > >> > >>http://blog.carlmercier.com/2012/01/05/ec2-is-basically-one-big-ripoff/ > >> > >>In that post, the author used this host for comparison testing: > >> > >>http://joesdatacenter.com/ > >My employer is a hosting provider so I'm somewhat biased here. > > It not just about the provider. I would need to see the bandwidth > charts on the current Jenkins but I assume Just about any provider > can handle it bandwidth needs. But the server Jenkins Master needs > to run on. EC2 isn't cutting it. My testing box is a basic Sata > drive and it is running much faster but there is no user load on the > box. We really need a box with raid 10 drives in it to handle the > high IO needs. http://jenkins.ekohl.nl/munin/ekohl.nl/jenkins.ekohl.nl/index.html are the stats of the jenkins slave we (my employer) provide. This is a production load. Quick analysis shows that IO is limiting at times, but the high IO peaks correlate to the swap. So adding more than 8GB RAM would lessen the requirement on the IO. Note that it is currently running on our SATA SAN, but I don't know the RAID config from the top of my head. --===============6498164167171497989==--