From mkolesni at redhat.com Wed Nov 28 08:08:04 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7784550100722718942==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Kolesnik To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Is it possible to allow external images from lucidchart? Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:08:03 -0500 Message-ID: <1476963683.1002523.1354108083628.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> --===============7784550100722718942== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_1002522_1722853512.1354108083627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, = Lucidchart is an online diagram drawing tool which is very convenient to us= e and has an ability to export the diagram as an image. = This image is then kept up-to-date with diagram changes. = Would it be possible to add this site to $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom [1] ? = The address start with https://www.lucidchart.com/ = This will help immensely in editing & keeping wiki up to date with diagrams= . = [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImagesFrom = Regards, = Mike = ------=3D_Part_1002522_1722853512.1354108083627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <= div style=3D'font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: = 12pt; color: #000000'>Hi,

Lucidchart is an online diagram drawing to= ol which is very convenient to use and has an ability to export the diagram= as an image.
This image is then kept up-to-date with diagram changes.
Would it be possible to add this site to $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom [= 1] ?

The address start with https://www.lucidchart.com/

This = will help immensely in editing & keeping wiki up to date with diagrams.=

[1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImagesFrom=

Regards,
Mike

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Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 09:01:07 -0800 Message-ID: <50B64353.80608@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1476963683.1002523.1354108083628.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============0573756544427462059== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigFF6C21BF37F052A74731D54C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/28/2012 05:08 AM, Mike Kolesnik wrote: > Hi, >=3D20 > Lucidchart is an online diagram drawing tool which is very convenient > to use and has an ability to export the diagram as an image. This > image is then kept up-to-date with diagram changes. >=3D20 > Would it be possible to add this site to $wgAllowExternalImagesFrom > [1] ? >=3D20 > The address start with https://www.lucidchart.com/ >=3D20 > This will help immensely in editing & keeping wiki up to date with > diagrams . >=3D20 > [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowExternalImagesFrom Three quick reactions. First, we're in the middle of a MediaWiki migration, so we need to wait a period of time for that to be completed and fix any problems. One or two weeks should be plenty of time. Second, from a project perspective, if it helps contributors, it's worth considering how to make it available for participation. Third, form a personal and project perspective, I get very nervous with each piece of non-FOSS that we rely upon for the infrastructure of participation. From a purely practical standpoint, it puts us at risk in several ways. Since this isn't a key infrastructure component and it's provided as a service, it's a relatively low risk. But I think we should approach proprietary solutions carefully, like sleeping tigers. Final thing to ponder - as content and code for oVirt is all licensed under the Apache License or Creative Commons, what would you do with these charts? I presume we have the right to license the chart itself, as a result of our own work. But if the tool that makes the free/open content is not FOSS, what does that mean about our ability to exercise essential freedoms around the charts? In other words, if I don't have the rights to freely use the creation tool, the free/opn provenance of the image is broken. It would be similar to using PhotoShop to create graphics for oVirt technical manuals, with the files all as PSDs that only PhotoShop can properly work with. This restricts the ability for others to contribute to the project unless they have PhotoShop, etc. (The above pondering is why projects such as Fedora require graphics work to be done with 100% free/open source images (no stock photos, etc.) and created using 100% FOSS tools.) - Karsten --=3D20 Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 --------------enigFF6C21BF37F052A74731D54C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=3D"signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=3D"signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iD8DBQFQtkNT2ZIOBq0ODEERAhsAAJoCH7L3MpwMkTgDKer/4CUGtjmSAQCbBKB8 jn95Ud4bhmSdycjwRr07E4g=3D =3DCZ4b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigFF6C21BF37F052A74731D54C-- --===============0573756544427462059== Content-Type: multipart/signed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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