From joachim.jabs at tec-se.com Thu Jul 12 08:58:18 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4006042016989083512==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jabs, Joachim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:57:35 +0200 Message-ID: --===============4006042016989083512== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01CD602D.E808CDCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys, =3D20 as previously offered: =3D20 Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems around ovirt that might arise. The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability and maintainability around the hardware used. =3D20 If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the offer, just ask. =3D20 =3D20 Regards Joachim Jabs / Gestahlt =3D20 =3D20 ------_=3D_NextPart_001_01CD602D.E808CDCA Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi =3D Guys,

 

as previously offered:

 

Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. = =3D Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have 192 =3D Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems around ovirt = =3D that might arise.

The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and =3D for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about =3D hosting VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for =3D stability and maintainability around the hardware =3D used.

=3D

 

If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able = =3D to do something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the =3D offer, just ask.

 

 

Regards

Joachim Jabs / Gestahlt

 

 

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CA4915473442694EB57611D4342EE34C02598FF8@EXCH1SERVER.TSSERVICE.LOC --===============0689548702236905271== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > Hi Guys, > = > = > = > as previously offered: > = > = > = > Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > around ovirt that might arise. > = > The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > and maintainability around the hardware used. > = > = > = > If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do = > something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > offer, just ask. Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a good place to start? -- http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins Cheers - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D =3DEarP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============0689548702236905271==-- From eedri at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 10:55:10 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9051060712397481132==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 10:55:09 -0400 Message-ID: <53769452-c379-4d32-a10a-dcd96310cc5a@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFEDFCD.7040801@redhat.com --===============9051060712397481132== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > To: infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM > Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > = > On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > = > > = > > = > > as previously offered: > > = > > = > > = > > Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > > currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > > 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > > around ovirt that might arise. > > = > > The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > > also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > > VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > > and maintainability around the hardware used. > > = > > = > > = > > If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do > > something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > > offer, just ask. > = > Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > = > Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a > good > place to start? -- This is an excellent offer and opportunity. Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB SWAP, eac= h with 4/8 cores each. Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware node shou= ld we use? = > = > http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins > = > Cheers - Karsten > - -- > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > = > = > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > = > iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP > PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D > =3DEarP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >=20 --===============9051060712397481132==-- From iheim at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 10:57:37 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1497066096255553022==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:57:33 +0300 Message-ID: <4FFEE5DD.5060504@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 53769452-c379-4d32-a10a-dcd96310cc5a@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============1497066096255553022== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM >> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: >>> Hi Guys, >>> >>> >>> >>> as previously offered: >>> >>> >>> >>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im >>> currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have >>> 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems >>> around ovirt that might arise. >>> >>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its >>> also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting >>> VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability >>> and maintainability around the hardware used. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do >>> something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the >>> offer, just ask. >> >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. >> >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a >> good >> place to start? -- > > This is an excellent offer and opportunity. > Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec > and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. > > I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB SWAP, e= ach with 4/8 cores each. > > Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware node sh= ould we use? > considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting resources, = and later analyzing behavior > >> >> http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins >> >> Cheers - Karsten >> - -- >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >> >> iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP >> PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D >> =3DEarP >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Infra mailing list >> Infra(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra >> --===============1497066096255553022==-- From mburns at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 11:51:02 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1975677909360051845==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mike Burns To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:51:00 -0400 Message-ID: <1342108260.3145.5.camel@mburns-laptop> In-Reply-To: 4FFEE5DD.5060504@redhat.com --===============1975677909360051845== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM > >> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > >>> Hi Guys, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> as previously offered: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > >>> currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > >>> 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > >>> around ovirt that might arise. > >>> > >>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > >>> also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > >>> VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > >>> and maintainability around the hardware used. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do > >>> something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > >>> offer, just ask. > >> > >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > >> > >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a > >> good > >> place to start? -- > > > > This is an excellent offer and opportunity. > > Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec > > and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. > > > > I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB SWAP,= each with 4/8 cores each. > > > > Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware node = should we use? > > > = > considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting resources, = > and later analyzing behavior Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are running various target distros where we can build packages for different distros. Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is running on oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good choice. The slaves generally don't need as much disk. Mike > = > > > >> > >> http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins > >> > >> Cheers - Karsten > >> - -- > >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > >> > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > >> > >> iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP > >> PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D > >> =3DEarP > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Infra mailing list > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > >> > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra --===============1975677909360051845==-- From eedri at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 12:04:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1216557934405303769==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eyal Edri To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:04:26 -0400 Message-ID: <00ee233c-45b6-4510-9a31-081c9ba4e7ab@zmail17.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1342108260.3145.5.camel@mburns-laptop --===============1216557934405303769== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Burns" > To: "Itamar Heim" > Cc: "Eyal Edri" , infra(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 6:51:00 PM > Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > = > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: > > On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" > > >> To: infra(a)ovirt.org > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM > > >> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins > > >> > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >> Hash: SHA1 > > >> > > >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > > >>> Hi Guys, > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> as previously offered: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > > >>> currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we > > >>> have > > >>> 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > > >>> around ovirt that might arise. > > >>> > > >>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me > > >>> its > > >>> also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about > > >>> hosting > > >>> VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for > > >>> stability > > >>> and maintainability around the hardware used. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do > > >>> something for you there. If you have any questions regarding > > >>> the > > >>> offer, just ask. > > >> > > >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > > >> > > >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this > > >> a > > >> good > > >> place to start? -- > > > > > > This is an excellent offer and opportunity. > > > Since we're talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware > > > spec > > > and increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. > > > > > > I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, 32 GB > > > SWAP, each with 4/8 cores each. > > > > > > Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per hardware > > > node should we use? > > > > > = > > considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting > > resources, > > and later analyzing behavior > = > Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are > running > various target distros where we can build packages for different > distros. > = > Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is running > on > oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good choice. The > slaves > generally don't need as much disk. agreed, especially if it's thin provisioned. = amount of disk space will be determine if we'll want to run multiple jobs o= n each slave so it will require cloning the workspaces, but of course slaves usually require much less space than the master node. > = > Mike > = > > = > > > > > >> > > >> http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins > > >> > > >> Cheers - Karsten > > >> - -- > > >> Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > > >> http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > > >> @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > >> > > >> > > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > >> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > >> > > >> iD8DBQFP/t/N2ZIOBq0ODEERAkM+AKCqsLii5DeVVDcueUR/0075fmSWhACfbmGP > > >> PMWT116DTADxn/oNn/pXav4=3D > > >> =3DEarP > > >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Infra mailing list > > >> Infra(a)ovirt.org > > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > > >> > > = > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Infra mailing list > > Infra(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra > = > = >=20 --===============1216557934405303769==-- From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 12:06:40 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8290080160974928692==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 09:06:37 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFEF60D.9040405@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1342108260.3145.5.camel@mburns-laptop --===============8290080160974928692== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/2012 08:51 AM, Mike Burns wrote: > On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >> On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>> = >>> = >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" To: >>>> infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM = >>>> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins >>>> = > On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: >>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> as previously offered: >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for >>>>>> Jenkins. Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on >>>>>> a cluster (we have 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for >>>>>> providing help with problems around ovirt that might >>>>>> arise. >>>>>> = >>>>>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and >>>>>> for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt >>>>>> and also about hosting VM related infrastructure. This >>>>>> will also be a test for stability and maintainability >>>>>> around the hardware used. >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> = >>>>>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able >>>>>> to do something for you there. If you have any questions >>>>>> regarding the offer, just ask. > = > Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > = > Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a = > good place to start? -- >>>> = >>>> This is an excellent offer and opportunity. Since we're >>>> talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec and >>>> increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. >>>> = >>>> I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, >>>> 32 GB SWAP, each with 4/8 cores each. >>>> = >>>> Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per >>>> hardware node should we use? >>>> = >>> = >>> considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting >>> resources, and later analyzing behavior > = >> Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are >> running various target distros where we can build packages for >> different distros. +1 Robert - are you interested in working on the package autobuild for RHEL & rebuilds? I figure we have the Fedora expertise already. Anyone know enough to get the Debian/Ubuntu packages building? (Maybe even automate populating an Ubuntu PPA?) Same questions for OpenSUSE. We have a classic chicken-and-egg problem with being of interest to the OpenSUSE. Debian, Ubuntu, etc. communities - we need builds to generate the interest of people who would want to maintain the packages in their downstream distro repo. >> Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is >> running on oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good >> choice. The slaves generally don't need as much disk. Let's keep iterating on the content on http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins, not just the service minimums, but cleaning the setup steps, etc. - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/vYN2ZIOBq0ODEERAlwxAJ9DQ63HE7tOvVbDZdOM/b3HJ44a6QCdFsbQ IK74b3u5rsJkxK4kuJKm9zQ=3D =3DI0Jm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============8290080160974928692==-- From ewoud+ovirt at kohlvanwijngaarden.nl Thu Jul 12 12:16:14 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7896861511086022542==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:16:06 +0200 Message-ID: <20120712161606.GZ28104@bogey.xentower.nl> In-Reply-To: 4FFEDFCD.7040801@redhat.com --===============7896861511086022542== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 07:31:41AM -0700, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > = > > as previously offered: > > = > > Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for Jenkins. Im > > currently trying out getting oVirt running on a cluster (we have > > 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for providing help with problems > > around ovirt that might arise. > > = > > The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and for me its > > also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt and also about hosting > > VM related infrastructure. This will also be a test for stability > > and maintainability around the hardware used. > > = > > If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able to do = > > something for you there. If you have any questions regarding the > > offer, just ask. > = > Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. > = > Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a good > place to start? -- > = > http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins Actually a jenkins slave only needs a jenkins user with SSH keys installed. You also need some packages, depending on the unit tests that need to be run. java-1.7.0-openjdk-devel for the java ones. VDSM also needs sudo. You should remove a line with requiretty in it and add the following: jenkins =3D NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/yum, /usr/sbin/setenforce /usr/bin/ksflatten= , /usr/bin/livecd-creator, /usr/bin/mount Need to catch my train now, hopefully there I can finish up some documentation and some puppet magic that sets it up for you. --===============7896861511086022542==-- From robert at middleswarth.net Thu Jul 12 20:50:45 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3446769722226054178==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Robert Middleswarth To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:50:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4FFF70DF.90906@middleswarth.net> In-Reply-To: 4FFEF60D.9040405@redhat.com --===============3446769722226054178== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/12/2012 12:06 PM, Karsten 'quaid' Wade wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/12/2012 08:51 AM, Mike Burns wrote: >> On Thu, 2012-07-12 at 17:57 +0300, Itamar Heim wrote: >>> On 07/12/2012 05:55 PM, Eyal Edri wrote: >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Karsten 'quaid' Wade" To: >>>>> infra(a)ovirt.org Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:31:41 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins >>>>> >> On 07/12/2012 05:57 AM, Jabs, Joachim wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as previously offered: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Im willing to provide you guys infrastructure for >>>>>>> Jenkins. Im currently trying out getting oVirt running on >>>>>>> a cluster (we have 192 Cores and 3TB RAM aviable) for >>>>>>> providing help with problems around ovirt that might >>>>>>> arise. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Cluster is not commercially used (Not right now) and >>>>>>> for me its also a good opportunity to learn about ovirt >>>>>>> and also about hosting VM related infrastructure. This >>>>>>> will also be a test for stability and maintainability >>>>>>> around the hardware used. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you guys sum up what you need, I think I might be able >>>>>>> to do something for you there. If you have any questions >>>>>>> regarding the offer, just ask. >> Hey, thanks for following. This is a great offer, +1 from me. >> >> Ewoud, Eyal (& others?) - what does Joachim need to do? Is this a >> good place to start? -- >>>>> This is an excellent offer and opportunity. Since we're >>>>> talking about VMs, we can start with basic hardware spec and >>>>> increase it after we'll see the bottle necks in real time. >>>>> >>>>> I would start with 3 VMs each running 16GB RAM, 200GB DISK, >>>>> 32 GB SWAP, each with 4/8 cores each. >>>>> >>>>> Itamar, mburns -> any recommendation on how many VMs per >>>>> hardware node should we use? >>>>> >>>> considering the workload, i'd start with not overcomitting >>>> resources, and later analyzing behavior >>> Agree with Itamar. I'd also consider having a vm or 2 that are >>> running various target distros where we can build packages for >>> different distros. > +1 > > Robert - are you interested in working on the package autobuild for > RHEL & rebuilds? Yes. I see getting easy access to the auto-builds in repo's as a top = priority. Followed by getting the changes needed to build EL6 into = Jenkins and get those auto-builds. I also would like to get auto-builds = setup for the 3.1 engine so any cheery picked updates will get built and = made available for people without require infra admin time. Create the = same thing for VDSM if / when a branch gets created. We have 2 issues that need resolved to get auto builds into repo's 1) We need additional storage on linode01 or we need to move the repo's = to there own system. 2) We need someone with access to both system to get the scripts to move = the data around. I am sure I could get it done but I would need my = access raised on linode01 and access to the Jenkins Master but this = should be pretty easy once the storage issues is resolved. EL6 builds the steps that we need. 1) We need to incorporate the EL6 patches so we can build the package. = Do we do it using a EL6 specific .spec files or do we use if statements = inside the exist spec? 2) We need to get builds running on some EL6 based hosts. I have a few = small hosts I could kick in but both nodes are just 8 cores / 8G of ram = each. 3) Move the nightly over to the repo for EL6 builds. > I figure we have the Fedora expertise already. Anyone know enough to > get the Debian/Ubuntu packages building? (Maybe even automate > populating an Ubuntu PPA?) Same questions for OpenSUSE. Before we worry about getting them in a PPA we need to worry about = building the packages. This requires more then Just building oVirt = packages we need to build jboss 7.11 packages and depending on the = Debian version we might requires an newer version of PostgreSQL. There = is a lot of packaging that needs to be done to get oVirt running on = Debian based systems. > > We have a classic chicken-and-egg problem with being of interest to > the OpenSUSE. Debian, Ubuntu, etc. communities - we need builds to > generate the interest of people who would want to maintain the > packages in their downstream distro repo. Right now the packing needs is so great it is hard to get anyone = interested into build oVirt into there distro but once you have some = working Debian based packages then other Debian maintainers will pick = them up and incorporate them into there respective Distro's >>> Also, 200GB disk seems a bit excessive to me. Since this is >>> running on oVirt, maybe a thin provisioned disk would be a good >>> choice. The slaves generally don't need as much disk. > Let's keep iterating on the content on http://ovirt.org/wiki/Jenkins, > not just the service minimums, but cleaning the setup steps, etc. > > - - Karsten > - -- = > Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth > http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com > @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iD8DBQFP/vYN2ZIOBq0ODEERAlwxAJ9DQ63HE7tOvVbDZdOM/b3HJ44a6QCdFsbQ > IK74b3u5rsJkxK4kuJKm9zQ=3D > =3DI0Jm > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Infra mailing list > Infra(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/infra Thanks Robert --===============3446769722226054178==-- From kwade at redhat.com Thu Jul 12 21:21:20 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5003323484021988301==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Karsten 'quaid' Wade To: infra at ovirt.org Subject: Re: Infrastructure for Jenkins Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:21:17 -0700 Message-ID: <4FFF780D.30003@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FFF70DF.90906@middleswarth.net --===============5003323484021988301== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/12/2012 05:50 PM, Robert Middleswarth wrote: >> We have 2 issues that need resolved to get auto builds into >> repo's 1) We need additional storage on linode01 or we need to >> move the repo's to there own system. We can safely add about 15 GB to that account. I need to find another window of time for that resize and reboot. I'll set it up for tomorrow (Friday) afternoon (Pacific time), which should be quiet everywhere else. >> 2) We need someone with access to both system to get the scripts >> to move the data around. I am sure I could get it done but I >> would need my access raised on linode01 and access to the Jenkins >> Master but this should be pretty easy once the storage issues is >> resolved. Sorry I didn't make it clear, I gave you full sudo access the other day! Please give it a try to make sure it's working. >> Before we worry about getting them in a PPA we need to worry >> about building the packages. This requires more then Just >> building oVirt packages we need to build jboss 7.11 packages and >> depending on the Debian version we might requires an newer >> version of PostgreSQL. There is a lot of packaging that needs to >> be done to get oVirt running on Debian based systems. Right, right, I was forgetting that the darn horse needs to exist before we can attach this cart to it. :) - - Karsten - -- = Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Sr. Analyst - Community Growth http://TheOpenSourceWay.org .^\ http://community.redhat.com @quaid (identi.ca/twitter/IRC) \v' gpg: AD0E0C41 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFP/3gN2ZIOBq0ODEERAs59AJ0WlWKUeeh1Tr+lyS3iJ3U4uQkhNwCgloy1 x9GxYI8D+KQizfxbcNAAlZc=3D =3DJmpX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --===============5003323484021988301==--