On 21/08/2015 11:36, Walter Niklaus wrote:

Am 21.08.2015 um 15:40 schrieb Aline Manera:

Hi Jan,

What is the proposal of that?

We've already had a new UI design documentation to cover all the new UI elements and what you are proposing here is very different from what we are doing on new UI.

The new UI design documentation contains some great usability improvements but they are based on the current "master-branch" Kimchi/Ginger design where Kimchi and the framework are tightly interconnected.
The existing design document is proposing the following base navigation:

What's getting confusing from a usabiltiy point of view are especially the main menue points Storage and Networks because they are refferring to Virtual-Networks and libvirt-Storage-Pools and in the section of Host-Management there are similar menues for Host-Network and Host-Storage management. The menue points of Kimchi are expanding into the top horizontal section whereas the menue points of the Host-Management and Admin area are expanding into a vertical selection position.
The horizontal section is limited in how much content it can display.
We should also think about additional plugins like Containers and how we would have them show up in the UI.
I guess what I'm pleading here is to take the chance and look at the UI-design again considering the changed circumstances and benefit from the skill some new community members like Samuel, Jan and others are bringing in here.

Thanks, Walter.

Thanks for the clarification, Walter!

My concerns are about Kimchi plans. Related to that, I want to make clear some points:

1) At this time, the new UI will be develop (and released for 1.6) as it was designed (Check: https://github.com/kimchi-project/kimchi/wiki/UI-Design-Proposals)
    We've already had a lot of discussion on that and the new UI is planned for the end of September, ie, less than 2 months from now.
    So no new changes fit Kimchi schedule at this moment.

    That *does not* mean we can not improve and discussion new ideas. But it will be implemented only after new UI is released.

2) Wok is a web server framework for plugins. It will provide basic UI elements and widgets which *can be* reused for the plugins.
    How the plugins are designed is only related to the each plugin.

3) The vertical menu is in the new UI documentation for small screens (responsive web design) so the UI will adjust the elements according to screen size.

4) I don't see any benefit in grouping content in one tab. Each plugin can launch as many tabs as it wants. Kimchi decides for 4. =)

Regards,
Aline Manera

On 21/08/2015 05:21, Jan Schneider wrote:
Hello,

I started a Kimchi GUI Prototype with the Pencil tool.

First topic I would like to discuss is the base navigation proposal shown below
1) There is a horizontal main navigation area which contains 'Host' and 'Virtualization'. 'Containers' is an example for a future plugin.
2) There is a vertical sub navigation area. Each item in the sub navigation has an icon and a label (1 or 2 lines).

I am very interested in your feedback and would like to come to an agreement on this.

I will discuss with Aline if we can store the Kimchi GUI Prototype at a central place. It is packed in a single file PencilGuiPrototype.zip
Please extract this file and read ./readme.txt
To view the Kimchi GUI Prototype open file ./htmlExport/index.html in your browser and navigate by clicking on navigation tabs/buttons.
If you want to edit the Kimchi GUI Prototype you will find further information in ./readme.txt

Kind regards
Jan

Alternate design with the same navigation
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