2:02 p.m.
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen
resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the
navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I
couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
* http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
* https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
* https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to
three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
* http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
* https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think
we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This
site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
3:48 p.m.
Hi Samuel,
Thanks for all the inputs on that.
I'd be more conservative at this moment and do not change anything else
unless the sidebar.
Only because it seems to be simpler to do now to solve the original
issue and we can invest time in other features.
So my preference is for what is shown on ginger_sidebar_1.png and
ginger_storage_2.png
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/04/2016 04:02 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in
small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System
Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing
Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of
Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal
navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would
exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m
listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace
breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple
sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to
separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar.
This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to
Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up
to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are
mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and
hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other
panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase
tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different
that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have
first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the
top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its
position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached
screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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5:59 a.m.
Hi Aline,
Even if we use this sidebar, I think for full hd resolutions and bigger we would have to
remove the left margin from Wok header and navigation bar or it would look weird. I'll
test with a floating button that toggles the sidebar/panel and send the screenshots.
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: segunda-feira, 4 de julho de 2016 17:48
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; Kimchi
Devel <kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
Thanks for all the inputs on that.
I'd be more conservative at this moment and do not change anything else unless the
sidebar.
Only because it seems to be simpler to do now to solve the original issue and we can
invest time in other features.
So my preference is for what is shown on ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/04/2016 04:02 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen
resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the
navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I
couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
* http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
* https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
* https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to
three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
* http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
* https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think
we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This
site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
6:28 a.m.
I want to mention that the sidebars of ginger_sidebar_1 and
ginger_storage2 ,
as far as I've understood, it's just a 'shortcut' to show the selected
feature while
hiding the other ones. This is not exactly what I had in mind when I first
proposed the sidebar layout. I was thinking about an exclusive content
panel, containing only the selected feature and nothing else.
Also, this does not solve the problem Ginger has with multiple second
level tabs - we're keeping all tabs and changing only their inner layout. My
first idea was to put all Ginger features in the "Administration" tab, with
sections and subsections in the sidebar. We would have the "Storage" section
and the submenus would be the name of each feature the tab holds today
(File systems, SAN adapters ...). Same thing with the rest of Ginger second
level tabs.
Daniel
On 07/04/2016 04:02 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in
small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System
Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing
Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of
Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal
navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would
exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m
listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace
breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple
sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to
separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar.
This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to
Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up
to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are
mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and
hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other
panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase
tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different
that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have
first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the
top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its
position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached
screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
_______________________________________________
Kimchi-devel mailing list
Kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
7:50 a.m.
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various
possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be
ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate
relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and
ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too
complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie.
have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go under
the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing similar to
your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in
small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System
Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves editing
Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list instead of
Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal
navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would
exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m
listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace
breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have multiple
sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to
separate sections that could be third level elements on a sidebar.
This was already discussed when we moved some features from Ginger to
Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up
to three levels without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are
mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and
hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also hide the other
panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase
tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement something entirely different
that would with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have
first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the
top that would allow the user to type the desired option and show its
position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining attached
screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
_______________________________________________
Kimchi-devel mailing list
Kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
4:12 p.m.
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a
floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea).
Samuel
From: kimchi-devel-bounces(a)ovirt.org [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of
Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
To: kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of
us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with
possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way
proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second
level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be
enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen
resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the
navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I
couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
* http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
* https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
* https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to
three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
* http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
* https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think
we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This
site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
_______________________________________________
Kimchi-devel mailing list
Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
7:52 a.m.
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a
default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger
features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them but
you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra Shekhar
Reddy Potula
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various
possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would
be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate
relief with the way proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and
ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more better if it is too
complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png,
ie. have one second level tab for now and all the functionalities go
under the side pane which would be enabler in future some thing
similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar
in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables in System
Services page. Since working on the navigation bar involves
editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list
instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal
navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that would
exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m
listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and
replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have
multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel
groups to separate sections that could be third level elements on
a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a
functional sidebar with up to three levels without using a
“landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2
are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would slide the main
content and hide itself once an option is clicked. It would also
hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and
ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement
something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins.
This site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I
think we could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu:
https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on
the top that would allow the user to type the desired option and
show its position on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining
attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned
to the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
_______________________________________________
Kimchi-devel mailing list
Kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
_______________________________________________
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3:54 p.m.
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the
page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per
page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first
view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a
floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea).
Samuel
From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of
us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with
possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way
proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second
level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be
enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen
resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the
navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I
couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
· http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
· https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
· https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to
three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
· http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
· https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think
we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This
site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
_______________________________________________
Kimchi-devel mailing list
Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
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8:13 a.m.
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and
single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if
we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have
hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with
a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger
features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them
but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra
Shekhar Reddy Potula
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various
possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which
would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide
immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures
ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for
ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all
the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler
in future some thing similar to your proposal of
https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation
bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables
in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar
involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok
mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal
navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that
would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of
examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional
pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work
as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have
multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible
panel groups to separate sections that could be third level
elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we
moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we
could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels
without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and
ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would
slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here
are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and
ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement
something entirely different that would with Wok and all
plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the
sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a
tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input
on the top that would allow the user to type the desired
option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation
with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned
to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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8:28 a.m.
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be
considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
>
> Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and
> single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if
> we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have
> hidden elements on the page.
>
> Samuel
>
> *From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
> *Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
> *To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
> <samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
>
> Hi Samuel,
>
> I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with
> a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
>
> Regards,
> Aline Manera
>
> On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
>
> Hi team,
>
> Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all
> Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some
> of them but you’ll get the idea).
>
> Samuel
>
> *From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
> <mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
> [mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra
> Shekhar Reddy Potula
> *Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
> *To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
>
> Hi Samuel,
>
> First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various
> possibilities in front of us !!!
>
> I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which
> would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
>
> Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide
> immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures
> ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
> it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
>
> I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for
> ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and
> all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be
> enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of
> https://www.sitepoint.com/
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Chandra
>
> On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
>
> Hi team,
>
> We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation
> bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables
> in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar
> involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok
> mailing list instead of Ginger group.
>
> I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal
> navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that
> would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of
> examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional
> pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can
> work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
>
> ·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
>
> ·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
>
> ·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
>
> Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have
> multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible
> panel groups to separate sections that could be third level
> elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we
> moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we
> could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels
> without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
>
> In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and
> ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would
> slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
> clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here
> are two off-canvas menu in action:
>
> ·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
>
> ·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
>
> Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and
> ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement
> something entirely different that would with Wok and all
> plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the
> sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a
> tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
>
> In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter
> input on the top that would allow the user to type the
> desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take
> a look at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one
> variation with the content aligned to the center and another
> one aligned to the left.
>
> Regards,
>
> Samuel
>
>
>
>
>
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10:18 a.m.
Sure. I'm considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we'll have
to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put
the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would
have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe
move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
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Daniel Henrique Barboza
Sent: quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29
To: kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the
page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per
page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first
view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a
floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea).
Samuel
From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of
us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with
possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way
proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second
level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be
enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen
resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the
navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I
couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
· http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
· https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
· https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to
three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
· http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
· https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think
we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This
site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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7:27 a.m.
Hi Samuel,
+1 from me.
I feel, this will also help in future easy elimination of second level.
Regards
Chandra
On 7/13/16 2:24 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and
single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion because if
we are going to display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have
hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with
a default first view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting all Ginger
features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only put some of them
but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Chandra
Shekhar Reddy Potula
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various
possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which
would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide
immediate relief with the way proposed in the figures
ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for
ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now and all
the functionalities go under the side pane which would be enabler
in future some thing similar to your proposal of
https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation
bar in small screen resolutions and we also have huge tables
in System Services page. Since working on the navigation bar
involves editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok
mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal
navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find any example that
would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The majority of
examples I’m listing below are very good with traditional
pages with deep subcategories and the navigation bars can work
as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn’t have
multiple sections but Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible
panel groups to separate sections that could be third level
elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we
moved some features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we
could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three levels
without using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and
ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu that would
slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here
are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and
ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could implement
something entirely different that would with Wok and all
plugins. This site menu only have first-level options on the
sidebar but I think we could add collapsible links like a
tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input
on the top that would allow the user to type the desired
option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation
with the content aligned to the center and another one aligned
to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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9:34 a.m.
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file.
It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will
affect all plugins and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab
"Administration".
That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar
menu created according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work because
we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main
Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels as static elements
instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would have to create a
single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and
maybe move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Henrique
Barboza
*Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be
considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar
and single contente on the page. I also removed the accordion
because if we are going to display only one item per page, we
shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>
<mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu
and with a default first view when user enters on
Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup putting
all Ginger features in a floating vertical menu (I’ve only
put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of
*Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on
various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/
which would be ideal to have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to
provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the
figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and
eventually make it more better if it is too complex doing
all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for
ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for now
and all the functionalities go under the side pane which
would be enabler in future some thing similar to your
proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase
navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we also
have huge tables in System Services page. Since
working on the navigation bar involves editing Wok
styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing list
instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar +
horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t find
any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its
plugins. The majority of examples I’m listing below
are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as
sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ -
https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us -
https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi
doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and
Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate
sections that could be third level elements on a
sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some
features from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we
could achieve a functional sidebar with up to three
levels without using a “landing page” for second-level
elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and
ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu
that would slide the main content and hide itself once
an option is clicked. It would also hide the other
panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and
ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could
implement something entirely different that would with
Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have
first-level options on the sidebar but I think we
could add collapsible links like a tree-table menu:
https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a
search/filter input on the top that would allow the
user to type the desired option and show its position
on the menu. Please take a look at the remaining
attached screenshots. I did one variation with the
content aligned to the center and another one aligned
to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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11:15 a.m.
I'm not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1- Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware and other
panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use
ginger.capabilities object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2- Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available sidebar
options as static HTML elements but still use ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable
options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar functions. Option 2
would require same amount of work on Wok but would keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; Daniel
Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82(a)gmail.com>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file.
It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins
and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab
"Administration".
That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created
according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I'm considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we'll have
to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put
the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would
have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe
move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Henrique Barboza
Sent: quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29
To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the
page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per
page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first
view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a
floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea).
Samuel
From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of
us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with
possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way
proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second
level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be
enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen
resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the
navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I
couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
· http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
· https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
· https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to
three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
· http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
· https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think
we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This
site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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12:24 p.m.
On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
I’m not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1-Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware
and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab
in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities object to hide them
once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2-Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available
sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use
ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar
functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but would
keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be
implemented as it only involves changes on Ginger.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza
<dhbarboza82(a)gmail.com>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file.
It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will
affect all plugins and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab
"Administration".
That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the
sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work
because we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before
rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger panels
as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we
would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and
remove the accordions and maybe move or create new JS functions to
initialize them.
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
Henrique Barboza
*Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some
features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but should
be considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating
sidebar and single contente on the page. I also removed
the accordion because if we are going to display only one
item per page, we shouldn’t have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>
<mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left
panel/menu and with a default first view when user enters
on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup
putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical
menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of
*Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation
on various possibilities in front of us !!!
I personally liked the option
https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to
have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to
provide immediate relief with the way proposed in the
figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png
and eventually make it more better if it is too
complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for
ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab for
now and all the functionalities go under the side pane
which would be enabler in future some thing similar to
your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase
navigation bar in small screen resolutions and we
also have huge tables in System Services page.
Since working on the navigation bar involves
editing Wok styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok
mailing list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar +
horizontal navigation bars and so far I couldn’t
find any example that would exactly fit with Wok
and its plugins. The majority of examples I’m
listing below are very good with traditional pages
with deep subcategories and the navigation bars
can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ -
https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us -
https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft -
https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi
doesn’t have multiple sections but Ginger and
Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to
separate sections that could be third level
elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed
when we moved some features from Ginger to
Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a
functional sidebar with up to three levels without
using a “landing page” for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and
ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an off-canvas menu
that would slide the main content and hide itself
once an option is clicked. It would also hide the
other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas
menu in action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and
ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we could
implement something entirely different that would
with Wok and all plugins. This site menu only have
first-level options on the sidebar but I think we
could add collapsible links like a tree-table
menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a
search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its
position on the menu. Please take a look at the
remaining attached screenshots. I did one
variation with the content aligned to the center
and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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3:12 p.m.
Hi team,
I was about to integrate Ginger sidebar mockup that I've sent but it occurred to me
that is still impossible to work with this sidebar without performing some changes in Wok
JS due to user access roles, unless all tabs in administration are under the same rule.
Right now the tab-ext.xml lists all tabs with the same roles:
<access role="admin" mode="admin" />
<access role="user" mode="none" />
Should I keep this role to just the "Administration" tab and check other pages
by the capabilities?
Regards,
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:24
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes <samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; Daniel
Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82(a)gmail.com>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
I'm not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1- Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and firmware and other
panels as well) as nested tags inside the administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use
ginger.capabilities object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2- Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all available sidebar
options as static HTML elements but still use ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable
options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar functions. Option 2
would require same amount of work on Wok but would keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be implemented as it
only involves changes on Ginger.
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
Daniel Henrique Barboza <dhbarboza82@gmail.com><mailto:dhbarboza82@gmail.com>;
kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file.
It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them will affect all plugins
and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab
"Administration".
That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the sidebar menu created
according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I'm considering that this will be a huge amount of work because we'll have
to look up for the capabilities before rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put
the Ginger panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either way we would
have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each panel and remove the accordions and maybe
move or create new JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Henrique Barboza
Sent: quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29
To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are some features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but should be considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating sidebar and single contente on the
page. I also removed the accordion because if we are going to display only one item per
page, we shouldn't have hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
From: Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
Sent: terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
To: Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br><mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left panel/menu and with a default first
view when user enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I've created a new mockup putting all Ginger features in a
floating vertical menu (I've only put some of them but you'll get the idea).
Samuel
From: kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] On Behalf Of Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
Sent: quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
To: kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
Subject: Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive investigation on various possibilities in front of
us !!!
I personally liked the option https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to have with
possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane to provide immediate relief with the way
proposed in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make
it more better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second
level tab for now and all the functionalities go under the side pane which would be
enabler in future some thing similar to your proposal of https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small screen
resolutions and we also have huge tables in System Services page. Since working on the
navigation bar involves editing Wok styles, I'm sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so far I
couldn't find any example that would exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I'm listing below are very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
· http://www.worldwildlife.org/ - https://vimeo.com/166812605
· https://www.theguardian.com/us - https://vimeo.com/166812599
· https://next.ft.com/fastft - https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels. Kimchi doesn't have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could achieve a functional sidebar with up to
three levels without using a "landing page" for second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1 and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
· http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
· https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think
we could implement something entirely different that would with Wok and all plugins. This
site menu only have first-level options on the sidebar but I think we could add
collapsible links like a tree-table menu: https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a search/filter input on the top that would allow
the user to type the desired option and show its position on the menu. Please take a look
at the remaining attached screenshots. I did one variation with the content aligned to the
center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org<mailto:Kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/kimchi-devel
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Hi Samuel,
This is some thing I felt as a constraint so far...
Ideally:
1. Any user who can log on to the system (normal user) should at least
have the listing capabilities for most of the functionalities (except
for the functionality where listing capabilities require admin
privileges and we do not want such details normal user shown ). This is
some thing we are missing from the tool.
2. Based on the user role and responsibilities, functionalities (ie
actions etc.) can be enabled or disabled. I am sure this some thing we
have to work upon.
So from my view, I would recommend you to keep above points in mind
while we are coming up with the side pane, so that minimal re-work in
the future !!!
Regards
Chandra
On 8/31/16 1:42 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
I was about to integrate Ginger sidebar mockup that I’ve sent but it
occurred to me that is still impossible to work with this sidebar
without performing some changes in Wok JS due to user access roles,
unless all tabs in administration are under the same rule. Right now
the tab-ext.xml lists all tabs with the same roles:
<access role="admin" mode="admin" />
<access role="user" mode="none" />
Should I keep this role to just the “Administration” tab and check
other pages by the capabilities?
Regards,
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:24
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza
<dhbarboza82(a)gmail.com>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
I’m not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1-Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and
firmware and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the
administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities
object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2-Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all
available sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use
ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar
functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but
would keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be
implemented as it only involves changes on Ginger.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>
<mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza
<dhbarboza82(a)gmail.com> <mailto:dhbarboza82@gmail.com>;
kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file.
It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them
will affect all plugins and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab
"Administration".
That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the
sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work
because we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before
rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger
panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either
way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each
panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new
JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
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<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
Henrique Barboza
*Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are
some features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but
should be considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating
sidebar and single contente on the page. I also
removed the accordion because if we are going to
display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have
hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>
<mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left
panel/menu and with a default first view when user
enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup
putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical
menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get
the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf
Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger
sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive
investigation on various possibilities in front of
us !!!
I personally liked the option
https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to
have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane
to provide immediate relief with the way proposed
in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and
ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more
better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for
ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab
for now and all the functionalities go under the
side pane which would be enabler in future some
thing similar to your proposal of
https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with
Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small
screen resolutions and we also have huge
tables in System Services page. Since working
on the navigation bar involves editing Wok
styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of
sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so
far I couldn’t find any example that would
exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I’m listing below are
very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work
as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ -
https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us -
https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft -
https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels.
Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel
groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was
already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could
achieve a functional sidebar with up to three
levels without using a “landing page” for
second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1
and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main
content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel
accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs
and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we
could implement something entirely different
that would with Wok and all plugins. This site
menu only have first-level options on the
sidebar but I think we could add collapsible
links like a tree-table menu:
https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a
search/filter input on the top that would
allow the user to type the desired option and
show its position on the menu. Please take a
look at the remaining attached screenshots. I
did one variation with the content aligned to
the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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11:34 a.m.
On 08/30/2016 05:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
I was about to integrate Ginger sidebar mockup that I’ve sent but it
occurred to me that is still impossible to work with this sidebar
without performing some changes in Wok JS due to user access roles,
unless all tabs in administration are under the same rule. Right now
the tab-ext.xml lists all tabs with the same roles:
<access role="admin" mode="admin" />
<access role="user" mode="none" />
Should I keep this role to just the “Administration” tab and check
other pages by the capabilities?
I'd say to keep the configuration only for Administration tab and we can
discuss more about Ginger authorization later.
As per configuration:
<access role="admin" mode="admin" />
<access role="user" mode="none" />
The Administration tab should not be loaded for a normal user. It will
be visible and accessible only for admin.
Is that the right approach? Maybe not. As Chandra said in the other
email, maybe it is better to let a normal user has a read-only for some
features.
But I don't think we should change that right now.
Changing the layout first is better and then we start a new discussion
related to authorization levels on Ginger community.
Regards,
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 21 de julho de 2016 14:24
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza
<dhbarboza82(a)gmail.com>; kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
On 07/21/2016 01:15 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
I’m not saying we will remove the tab-ext.xml, what I meant is that:
1-Move the tabs for network, storage and system services (and
firmware and other panels as well) as nested tags inside the
administration tab in the tab-ext.xml and use ginger.capabilities
object to hide them once the user lands on the administration tab.
OR
2-Keep only administration tab in tab-ext.xml and insert all
available sidebar options as static HTML elements but still use
ginger.capabilities to hide unavailable options.
Options 1 requires minor changes in wok.main.js inside the navbar
functions. Option 2 would require same amount of work on Wok but
would keep functions exclusive to Ginger.
I see Option 1 requiring changes on Wok. Option 2 seems simpler to be
implemented as it only involves changes on Ginger.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* quarta-feira, 20 de julho de 2016 11:34
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>
<mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>; Daniel Henrique Barboza
<dhbarboza82(a)gmail.com> <mailto:dhbarboza82@gmail.com>;
kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
There is no way to remove the tab-ext.xml file.
It is used by wok to load the plugins and changing/removing them
will affect all plugins and we do not want that.
The tab-ext.xml file needs to be update to only contain one tab
"Administration".
That tab will be related to one HTML file which will create the
sidebar menu created according to Ginger needs.
On 07/13/2016 12:18 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes wrote:
Sure. I’m considering that this will be a huge amount of work
because we’ll have to look up for the capabilities before
rendering the main Ginger landing page OR we put the Ginger
panels as static elements instead of using tab-ext.xml. Either
way we would have to create a single .html.tmpl file for each
panel and remove the accordions and maybe move or create new
JS functions to initialize them.
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
Henrique Barboza
*Sent:* quarta-feira, 13 de julho de 2016 10:29
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Looks good Samuel
Just a reminder: make sure to also consider that there are
some features
that will not be available at a given time in the host but
should be considered
in this design too. In your screenshot we're missing the Power
Management and the Firmware Update features, for example, probably
because you do not have tuned-adm and WoK isn't running in a Power
system.
Daniel
On 07/13/2016 10:13 AM, Aline Manera wrote:
Looks really good for me!
+1
On 07/12/2016 05:54 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Created a new variation with a sticky fixed floating
sidebar and single contente on the page. I also
removed the accordion because if we are going to
display only one item per page, we shouldn’t have
hidden elements on the page.
Samuel
*From:*Aline Manera [mailto:alinefm@linux.vnet.ibm.com]
*Sent:* terça-feira, 12 de julho de 2016 09:53
*To:* Samuel Henrique De Oliveira Guimaraes
<samuel.guimaraes(a)eldorado.org.br>
<mailto:samuel.guimaraes@eldorado.org.br>;
kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org <mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger sidebar
Hi Samuel,
I'd say to keep the menu always visible in a left
panel/menu and with a default first view when user
enters on Administration tab.
Regards,
Aline Manera
On 07/11/2016 06:12 PM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
Based on the feedback I’ve created a new mockup
putting all Ginger features in a floating vertical
menu (I’ve only put some of them but you’ll get
the idea).
Samuel
*From:*kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org>
[mailto:kimchi-devel-bounces@ovirt.org] *On Behalf
Of *Chandra Shekhar Reddy Potula
*Sent:* quinta-feira, 7 de julho de 2016 09:50
*To:* kimchi-devel(a)ovirt.org
<mailto:kimchi-devel@ovirt.org>
*Subject:* Re: [Kimchi-devel] [RFC] Wok / Ginger
sidebar
Hi Samuel,
First of all thanks for your extensive
investigation on various possibilities in front of
us !!!
I personally liked the option
https://www.sitepoint.com/ which would be ideal to
have with possibly 3 level navigation.
Nevertheless, let us start with having side pane
to provide immediate relief with the way proposed
in the figures ginger_sidebar_1.png and
ginger_storage_2.png and eventually make it more
better if it is too complex doing all of it ones.
I agree with Daniel recommendation for the for
ginger_sidebar*.png, ie. have one second level tab
for now and all the functionalities go under the
side pane which would be enabler in future some
thing similar to your proposal of
https://www.sitepoint.com/
Thanks and Regards
Chandra
On 7/5/16 12:32 AM, Samuel Henrique De Oliveira
Guimaraes wrote:
Hi team,
We currently have an issue with
Ginger/Gingerbase navigation bar in small
screen resolutions and we also have huge
tables in System Services page. Since working
on the navigation bar involves editing Wok
styles, I’m sending this e-mail to Wok mailing
list instead of Ginger group.
I looked for successful combinations of
sidebar + horizontal navigation bars and so
far I couldn’t find any example that would
exactly fit with Wok and its plugins. The
majority of examples I’m listing below are
very good with traditional pages with deep
subcategories and the navigation bars can work
as sitemaps and replace breadcrumbs:
·http://www.worldwildlife.org/ -
https://vimeo.com/166812605
·https://www.theguardian.com/us -
https://vimeo.com/166812599
·https://next.ft.com/fastft -
https://vimeo.com/166812597
Wok currently has two navigation levels.
Kimchi doesn’t have multiple sections but
Ginger and Gingerbase uses collapsible panel
groups to separate sections that could be
third level elements on a sidebar. This was
already discussed when we moved some features
from Ginger to Gingerbase but I think we could
achieve a functional sidebar with up to three
levels without using a “landing page” for
second-level elements.
In the attached screenshots ginger_sidebar1
and ginger_sidebar2 are mockups for an
off-canvas menu that would slide the main
content and hide itself once an option is
clicked. It would also hide the other panel
accordions. Here are two off-canvas menu in
action:
·http://codepen.io/SitePoint/full/uIemr/
·https://codepen.io/benske/full/cxrta/
Since this would require a change in Wok tabs
and ginger/gingerbase tab-ext.xml, I think we
could implement something entirely different
that would with Wok and all plugins. This site
menu only have first-level options on the
sidebar but I think we could add collapsible
links like a tree-table menu:
https://www.sitepoint.com/
In addition to the sidebar, we could put a
search/filter input on the top that would
allow the user to type the desired option and
show its position on the menu. Please take a
look at the remaining attached screenshots. I
did one variation with the content aligned to
the center and another one aligned to the left.
Regards,
Samuel
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