From j.astrego at netbulae.eu Tue Apr 7 07:24:49 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8455552484059582895==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jorick Astrego To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init root password? Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:24:45 +0200 Message-ID: <5523BE7D.2090404@netbulae.eu> In-Reply-To: 5523BE53.4040805@netbulae.eu --===============8455552484059582895== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------MIME-2476814998-964641021-delim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/07/2015 11=3D3A31 AM=3D2C Michal Skrivanek wrote=3D3A =3D3E On Apr 3=3D2C 2015=3D2C at 13=3D3A07 =3D2C Jorick Astrego =3D3Cj=3D2E= astrego=3D40netb=3D ulae=3D2Eeu=3D3E wrote=3D3A =3D3E =3D3E=3D3E Hi=3D2C =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E On 3=3D2E5=3D2E2rc3=3D2C the root password field from cloud-init= is missin=3D g=3D2E How do I set the root password now for a fresh VM=3D3F =3D3E Hi Jorick=3D2C =3D3E This was 3=3D2E5 enhancement to support also non-root users =3D3E you use username =3D22root=3D22 and set a password=3D3A-=3D29 =3D3E =3D3E Thanks=3D2C =3D3E michal I normally deploy through foreman and we have ipa integrated=3D2C so I haven=3D27t used it in a while=3D2E When I use username =3D22root=3D22 and set the password=3D2C how do I add a= nother=3D normal user then=3D3F Say I want to add an user account =3D26 set the root password=3D2E When I f= ill=3D in the username =3D26 password there is no way to login to the system as this user and gain root access in any way =3D28sudo is not allowed=3D29=3D2E So it could have just remained rootpw as the vm is worthless otherwise or am I missing something=3D3F Regards=3D2C Jorick Met vriendelijke groet=3D2C With kind regards=3D2C Jorick Astrego Netbulae Virtualization Experts=3D20 ---------------- =3D09Tel=3D3A 053 20 30 270 =3D09info=3D40netbulae=3D2Eeu =3D09Staalsteden = 4-3A =3D09KvK=3D 08198180 =3D09Fax=3D3A 053 20 30 271 =3D09www=3D2Enetbulae=3D2Eeu =3D097547 TA Ensc= hede =3D09BTW=3D NL821234584B01 ---------------- ------------MIME-2476814998-964641021-delim Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D3Chtml=3D3E =3D3Cbody=3D3E

On 04/07/2015 11:31 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
> On Apr 3, 2015, at 13:07 , Jorick Astrego &l= t;=3D j.astrego@netbulae.eu> wrote: <= /f=3D ont>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 3.5.2rc3, the root password field fro= m =3D cloud-init is missing. How do I set the root password now for a fresh VM?&#= =3D 13;
> Hi Jorick,
> This was 3.5 enhancement to support also non= -r=3D oot users
> you use username "root" and set a = pa=3D ssword:-)
>
> Thanks,
> michal

I normally deploy through foreman and we have ipa integrated, so I
haven't used it in a while.

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normal user then?

Say I want to add an user account & set the root password. When I fill&= =3D #13;
in the username & password there is no way to login to the system as= =3D 3;
this user and gain root access in any way (sudo is not allowed).

So it could have just remained rootpw as the vm is worthless otherwise = =3D
or am I missing something?

Regards, Jorick





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boundary="===============2440117335074042218==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michal Skrivanek To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init root password? Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:36:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4C1D855F-3246-4185-96EE-11A09F2C3422@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 5523BE7D.2090404@netbulae.eu --===============2440117335074042218== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 7, 2015, at 13:24 , Jorick Astrego wrote: > = > = > On 04/07/2015 11:31 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote: > = > = > > On Apr 3, 2015, at 13:07 , Jorick Astrego > wrote: > = > = > > > = > = > >> Hi, > = > = > >> > = > = > >> On 3.5.2rc3, the root password field from cloud-init is missing. How d= o I set the root password now for a fresh VM? > = > = > > Hi Jorick, > = > = > > This was 3.5 enhancement to support also non-root users > = > = > > you use username "root" and set a password:-) > = > = > > > = > = > > Thanks, > = > = > > michal > = > = > = > I normally deploy through foreman and we have ipa integrated, so I > = > = > haven't used it in a while. > = > = > = > When I use username "root" and set the password, how do I add another > = > = > normal user then? you can only define one. It's not meant to be a guest user management tool. > = > = > = > Say I want to add an user account & set the root password. When I fill > = > = > in the username & password there is no way to login to the system as > = > = > this user and gain root access in any way (sudo is not allowed). > = > = > = > So it could have just remained rootpw as the vm is worthless otherwise > = > = > or am I missing something? it was a specific request for cloud-based images. It only makes sense on te= mplates where you've already initialized root or sudo Thanks, michal > = > = > = > Regards, Jorick > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > Met vriendelijke groet, With kind regards, > = > Jorick Astrego > = > Netbulae Virtualization Experts = > Tel: 053 20 30 270 info(a)netbulae.eu Staalsteden 4-3A KvK 08198180 > Fax: 053 20 30 271 www.netbulae.eu 7547 TA Enschede BTW NL821234584B01 > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --===============2440117335074042218==-- From j.astrego at netbulae.eu Tue Apr 7 07:51:23 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5459978250086039446==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jorick Astrego To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init root password? Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 13:51:18 +0200 Message-ID: <5523C4B6.9060601@netbulae.eu> In-Reply-To: 4C1D855F-3246-4185-96EE-11A09F2C3422@redhat.com --===============5459978250086039446== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------MIME-2478409152-1782676014-delim Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/07/2015 01=3D3A36 PM=3D2C Michal Skrivanek wrote=3D3A =3D3E On Apr 7=3D2C 2015=3D2C at 13=3D3A24 =3D2C Jorick Astrego =3D3Cj=3D2E= astrego=3D40netb=3D ulae=3D2Eeu=3D3E wrote=3D3A =3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E On 04/07/2015 11=3D3A31 AM=3D2C Michal Skrivanek wrote=3D3A =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E On Apr 3=3D2C 2015=3D2C at 13=3D3A07 =3D2C Jorick Astrego = =3D3Cj=3D2Eastrego=3D =3D40netbulae=3D2Eeu =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E wrote=3D3A =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E=3D3E Hi=3D2C =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E=3D3E On 3=3D2E5=3D2E2rc3=3D2C the root password field from = cloud-init is=3D missing=3D2E How do I set the root password now for a fresh VM=3D3F =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E Hi Jorick=3D2C =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E This was 3=3D2E5 enhancement to support also non-root users =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E you use username =3D22root=3D22 and set a password=3D3A-=3D= 29 =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E Thanks=3D2C =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E=3D3E michal =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E I normally deploy through foreman and we have ipa integrated=3D2= C so I=3D =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E haven=3D27t used it in a while=3D2E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E When I use username =3D22root=3D22 and set the password=3D2C how= do I add=3D another =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E normal user then=3D3F =3D3E you can only define one=3D2E It=3D27s not meant to be a guest user ma= nageme=3D nt tool=3D2E Ok so IMHO it=3D27s pretty useless=3D2E I thought it was comparable to anac= onda=3D where you specify the rootpw and an optional user=3D2E I expect many call= =3D27s=3D if we don=3D27t explain they have to use the username root=3D2E But we=3D27= re building a custom customer front end anyway so we=3D27ll just fill in the root user ourselves I guess=3D2E Let=3D27s say a customer creates a new vm=3D2C add=3D27s a Centos iso to bo= ot fro=3D m and wishes the add a rootpw and admin user account=3D2C is there any way to= =3D do this currently=3D3F =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E Say I want to add an user account =3D26 set the root password=3D= 2E When=3D I fill =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E in the username =3D26 password there is no way to login to the s= ystem=3D as =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E this user and gain root access in any way =3D28sudo is not allow= ed=3D29=3D =3D2E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E So it could have just remained rootpw as the vm is worthless oth= erwi=3D se =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E =3D3E=3D3E or am I missing something=3D3F =3D3E it was a specific request for cloud-based images=3D2E It only makes s= ense=3D on templates where you=3D27ve already initialized root or sudo =3D3E If I create templates with initialized root or sudo=3D2C I wouldn=3D27t hav= e an=3D y need to use cloud init to add another user=3D2E I could have done that in the template as well=3D2E Also the templates will become single user as it doesn=3D27t make sense to share the same root with multiple users=3D2E Met vriendelijke groet=3D2C With kind regards=3D2C Jorick Astrego Netbulae Virtualization Experts=3D20 ---------------- =3D09Tel=3D3A 053 20 30 270 =3D09info=3D40netbulae=3D2Eeu =3D09Staalsteden = 4-3A =3D09KvK=3D 08198180 =3D09Fax=3D3A 053 20 30 271 =3D09www=3D2Enetbulae=3D2Eeu =3D097547 TA Ensc= hede =3D09BTW=3D NL821234584B01 ---------------- ------------MIME-2478409152-1782676014-delim Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =3D3Chtml=3D3E =3D3Cbody=3D3E

On 04/07/2015 01:36 PM, Michal Skrivanek wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2015, at 13:24 , Jorick Astrego &l= t;=3D j.astrego@netbulae.eu> wrote: <= /f=3D ont>
>
>>
>> On 04/07/2015 11:31 AM, Michal Skrivanek= w=3D rote:
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 13:07 , Jorick As= tr=3D ego <j.astrego@netbulae.eu
>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>>> On 3.5.2rc3, the root password f= ie=3D ld from cloud-init is missing. How do I set the root password now for a fre= =3D sh VM?
>>
>>> Hi Jorick,
>>
>>> This was 3.5 enhancement to support = al=3D so non-root users
>>
>>> you use username "root" an= d =3D set a password:-)
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>>> michal
>>
>>
>> I normally deploy through foreman and we= h=3D ave ipa integrated, so I
>>
>>
>> haven't used it in a while. <= br=3D > >>
>>
>>
>> When I use username "root" and= s=3D et the password, how do I add another
>>
>>
>> normal user then?
> you can only define one. It's not meant to b= e =3D a guest user management tool.

Ok so IMHO it's pretty useless. I thought it was comparable to anaconda = =3D ;
where you specify the rootpw and an optional user. I expect many call's = =3D ;
if we don't explain they have to use the username root. But we're
building a custom customer front end anyway so we'll just fill in the <= =3D br> root user ourselves I guess.

Let's say a customer creates a new vm, add's a Centos iso to boot from = =3D
and wishes the add a rootpw and admin user account, is there any way to = =3D ;
do this currently?

>>
>>
>> Say I want to add an user account & = se=3D t the root password. When I fill
>>
>>
>> in the username & password there is = no=3D way to login to the system as
>>
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>> this user and gain root access in any wa= y =3D (sudo is not allowed).
>>
>>
>>
>> So it could have just remained rootpw as= t=3D he vm is worthless otherwise
>>
>>
>> or am I missing something? > it was a specific request for cloud-based im= ag=3D es. It only makes sense on templates where you've already initialized root = =3D or sudo
>

If I create templates with initialized root or sudo, I wouldn't have any= =3D 3;
need to use cloud init to add another user. I could have done that in <= =3D br> the template as well. Also the templates will become single user as it = =3D
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Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 07:55:32 -0400 Message-ID: <809600549.8534811.1428407732497.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4C1D855F-3246-4185-96EE-11A09F2C3422@redhat.com --===============1197802504009463735== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michal Skrivanek" > To: "Jorick Astrego" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 1:36:45 PM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init root password? > = > = > On Apr 7, 2015, at 13:24 , Jorick Astrego wrote: > = > > = > > = > > On 04/07/2015 11:31 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote: > > = > > = > > > On Apr 3, 2015, at 13:07 , Jorick Astrego > > wrote: > > = > > = > > > > > = > > = > > >> Hi, > > = > > = > > >> > > = > > = > > >> On 3.5.2rc3, the root password field from cloud-init is missing. How= do > > >> I set the root password now for a fresh VM? > > = > > = > > > Hi Jorick, > > = > > = > > > This was 3.5 enhancement to support also non-root users > > = > > = > > > you use username "root" and set a password:-) > > = > > = > > > > > = > > = > > > Thanks, > > = > > = > > > michal > > = > > = > > = > > I normally deploy through foreman and we have ipa integrated, so I > > = > > = > > haven't used it in a while. > > = > > = > > = > > When I use username "root" and set the password, how do I add another > > = > > = > > normal user then? > = > you can only define one. It's not meant to be a guest user management too= l. By the way it's not a a cloud-init limit, there you can define more than us= er: http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#including-u= sers-and-groups Michal, are you working with plain password or with salted hashed ones? I had some experiment on hosted-engine with strange results on that. > > Say I want to add an user account & set the root password. When I fill > > = > > = > > in the username & password there is no way to login to the system as > > = > > = > > this user and gain root access in any way (sudo is not allowed). > > = > > = > > = > > So it could have just remained rootpw as the vm is worthless otherwise > > = > > = > > or am I missing something? > = > it was a specific request for cloud-based images. It only makes sense on > templates where you've already initialized root or sudo > = > Thanks, > michal > = > > = > > = > > = > > Regards, Jorick > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > Met vriendelijke groet, With kind regards, > > = > > Jorick Astrego > > = > > Netbulae Virtualization Experts > > Tel: 053 20 30 270 info(a)netbulae.eu Staalsteden 4-3A KvK 08198180 > > Fax: 053 20 30 271 www.netbulae.eu 7547 TA Enschede BTW NL821234584B01 > > = > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============1197802504009463735==-- From michal.skrivanek at redhat.com Tue Apr 7 09:43:20 2015 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7856625838829131010==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Michal Skrivanek To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init root password? Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:43:13 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 809600549.8534811.1428407732497.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com --===============7856625838829131010== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Apr 7, 2015, at 13:55 , Simone Tiraboschi wrote: > = > = > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michal Skrivanek" >> To: "Jorick Astrego" >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 1:36:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] cloud-init root password? >> = >> = >> On Apr 7, 2015, at 13:24 , Jorick Astrego wrot= e: >> = >>> = >>> = >>> On 04/07/2015 11:31 AM, Michal Skrivanek wrote: >>> = >>> = >>>> On Apr 3, 2015, at 13:07 , Jorick Astrego >>> wrote: >>> = >>> = >>>> = >>> = >>> = >>>>> Hi, >>> = >>> = >>>>> = >>> = >>> = >>>>> On 3.5.2rc3, the root password field from cloud-init is missing. How = do >>>>> I set the root password now for a fresh VM? >>> = >>> = >>>> Hi Jorick, >>> = >>> = >>>> This was 3.5 enhancement to support also non-root users >>> = >>> = >>>> you use username "root" and set a password:-) >>> = >>> = >>>> = >>> = >>> = >>>> Thanks, >>> = >>> = >>>> michal >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> I normally deploy through foreman and we have ipa integrated, so I >>> = >>> = >>> haven't used it in a while. >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> When I use username "root" and set the password, how do I add another >>> = >>> = >>> normal user then? >> = >> you can only define one. It's not meant to be a guest user management to= ol. > = > By the way it's not a a cloud-init limit, there you can define more than = user: > http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/examples.html#including= -users-and-groups sure, this is just GUI limitation there's the custom section where you can do whatever > = > Michal, are you working with plain password or with salted hashed ones? > I had some experiment on hosted-engine with strange results on that. just plain pwd; with an ugly hack for root Thanks, michal > = >>> Say I want to add an user account & set the root password. When I fill >>> = >>> = >>> in the username & password there is no way to login to the system as >>> = >>> = >>> this user and gain root access in any way (sudo is not allowed). >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> So it could have just remained rootpw as the vm is worthless otherwise >>> = >>> = >>> or am I missing something? >> = >> it was a specific request for cloud-based images. It only makes sense on >> templates where you've already initialized root or sudo >> = >> Thanks, >> michal >> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> Regards, Jorick >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> = >>> Met vriendelijke groet, With kind regards, >>> = >>> Jorick Astrego >>> = >>> Netbulae Virtualization Experts >>> Tel: 053 20 30 270 info(a)netbulae.eu Staalsteden 4-3A KvK 08198180 >>> Fax: 053 20 30 271 www.netbulae.eu 7547 TA Enschede BTW NL821234584B01 >>> = >>> = >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> = >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> = --===============7856625838829131010==--