From tdemeter at itsmart.hu Wed Dec 6 13:07:28 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3002873862398315724==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Demeter Tibor To: users at ovirt.org Subject: [ovirt-users] bonding mode-alb Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 14:07:23 +0100 Message-ID: <125355259.185000827.1512565643793.JavaMail.zimbra@itsmart.hu> --===============3002873862398315724== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D_a87e03e3-4ae4-4dcb-8739-e4423d90cef2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear members, = I would like to use two switches for make high-availability network connect= ion for my nfs storge. = Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I can= 't stack them) but I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding modes. = I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also how i= s safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? = I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in ovi= rt. What is the truths? = I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from oth= er network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my nod= es. = Thanks in advance, = R = Tibor = --=3D_a87e03e3-4ae4-4dcb-8739-e4423d90cef2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear members,

I would like to use two switches for make high-availabi= li=3D ty network connection for my nfs storge.
Unfortunately, these swi= =3D tches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I can't stack them)  but= =3D I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding modes.  
I know= =3D ,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also how is safe= =3D ? Are there for HA or for load balance? 

I've read some forums, where does not recommended these= m=3D odes to use in ovirt. What is the truths? 
I would like to u= =3D se only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from other network traffi= =3D c. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my nodes. 

Thanks in advance, 
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Tibor
 

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Also how= =3D is > safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? > I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in o= =3D virt. > What is the truths? > I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from o= =3D ther > network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my node= =3D s. > Thanks in advance, > R > Tibor > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --=3D_15aa05c7-bcf6-4765-bd75-8766ca17811e Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Could help anyone for me in this question?
Thanks.

R.

Tibor



----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor &l= t;=3D tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu> =3DC3=3DADrta:
Dear members,
I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network conn= =3D ection for my nfs storage.
Unfortunately, these switches does not= =3D support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I can't stack them)  but I've read abo= =3D ut mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding modes.  
I know,these modes a= =3D re available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also how is safe? Are there fo= =3D r HA or for load balance? 

I've read some forums, where = =3D does not recommended these modes to use in ovirt. What is the truths? = =3D
I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separat= =3D ed from other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe port= =3D s in my nodes. 

Thanks in advance, 

R= =3D

Tibor
 

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--===============0378809033281080688== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EBAFE294F86D80CF739837A3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello If you have 10Gb ports you hardly need to use these aggregation in order = to have more bandwidth. 10Gb is enough for A LOT of things. Just use = bonding mode=3D1 (active/backup) if your switches don't support stacking. Doing mode-tlb and alb is not always straight forward as mode 1 or mode 4. Fernando On 11/12/2017 09:53, Demeter Tibor wrote: > Hi, > > Could help anyone for me in this question? > Thanks. > > R. > > Tibor > > > > ----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor =C3=AD= rta: > > Dear members, > > I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network > connection for my nfs storage. > Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, > (really I can't stack them)=C2=A0 but I've read about mode-alb and > mode-tlb bonding modes. > I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? > Also how is safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? > > I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to > use in ovirt. What is the truths? > I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated > from other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two > 10Gbe ports in my nodes. > > Thanks in advance, > > R > > Tibor > > ** > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --------------EBAFE294F86D80CF739837A3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello

If you have 10Gb ports you hardly need to use these aggregation in order to have more bandwidth. 10Gb is enough for A LOT of things. Just use bonding mode=3D1 (active/backup) if your switches don't support stacking.

Doing mode-tlb and alb is not always straight forward as mode 1 or mode 4.

Fernando


On 11/12/2017 09:53, Demeter Tibor wrote:
Hi,

Could help anyone for me in this question?
Thanks.

R.

Tibor



----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor <tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu> =C3=AD= rta:
Dear members,

I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network connection for my nfs storage.
Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I can't stack them)=C2=A0 but I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding modes.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also how is safe? Are there for HA or for load balance?=C2=A0

I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in ovirt. What is the truths?=C2=A0
I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my nodes.=C2=A0

Thanks in advance,=C2=A0

R

Tibor
=C2=A0


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In-Reply-To: 1681538625.192120548.1512993222865.JavaMail.zimbra@itsmart.hu --===============1240855656618998878== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor wro= te: > Hi, > > Could help anyone for me in this question? > Thanks. > > R. > > Tibor > > > > ----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor =C3=AD= rta: > > Dear members, > > I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network > connection for my nfs storage. > Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I > can't stack them) but I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding > modes. > I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also how > is safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? > > I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in > ovirt. What is the truths? > I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from > other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my > nodes. > > Look here: https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Logical_Networks/#bond= s-1 "Important: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtual machine (bridged) and non-virtual machine (bridgeless) network types. 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[ovirt-users] bonding mode-alb Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:06:31 +0100 Message-ID: <1255052032.199572061.1513101991817.JavaMail.zimbra@itsmart.hu> In-Reply-To: CAN8-ONqYETruvZiMa+jUMYbB-cJASA56Moj9Y4GAzW=tAueGWQ@mail.gmail.com --===============4206224746233833311== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D_d0eda833-f78e-4e59-bacc-8614afbe8de5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=3D20 Thanks for the answers.=3D20 In this case the only question is: what is better for me? Mode 5 or 6?=3D20 In which modes how is fast the switching?=3D20 Until now I've use 802.3ad lacp on our old cluster. I did some tests and it= =3D was very fast. I know it is not same, but mode 5 or 6 how is safe?=3D20 Thanks=3D20 Regards,=3D20 Tibor=3D20 ----- 2017. dec.. 11., 13:24, Simone Tiraboschi =3D= C3=3D =3DADrta:=3D20 > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor < [ mailto:tdemeter(a)its= ma=3D rt.hu | > tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu ] > wrote: >> Hi, >> Could help anyone for me in this question? >> Thanks. >> R. >> Tibor >> ----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor < [ mailto:tdemeter(a)itsmart= .h=3D u | >> tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu ] > =3DC3=3DADrta: >>> Dear members, >>> I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network connec= =3D tion for >>> my nfs storage. >>> Unfortunately, these switches does not support [ http://802.3.ad/ | 802= =3D .3.ad ] >>> lacp, (really I can't stack them) but I've read about mode-alb and mode= =3D -tlb >>> bonding modes. >>> I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also h= =3D ow is >>> safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? >>> I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in= =3D ovirt. >>> What is the truths? >>> I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from= =3D other >>> network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my no= =3D des. > Look here: > [ https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Logical_Networks/#= =3D bonds-1 > | > https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Logical_Networks/#bo= =3D nds-1 > ] > "Important: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtual machine (bridged) a= =3D nd > non-virtual machine (bridgeless) network types. Modes 0, 5 and 6 support > non-virtual machine (bridgeless) networks only.=3DC2=3DA8 > So both tlb (mode 5) or alb (mode 6) are fine only if you use them just f= =3D or the > storage access but not for VMs. >>> Thanks in advance, >>> R >>> Tibor >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> [ mailto:Users(a)ovirt.org | Users(a)ovirt.org ] >>> [ http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ] >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [ mailto:Users(a)ovirt.org | Users(a)ovirt.org ] >> [ http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ] --=3D_d0eda833-f78e-4e59-bacc-8614afbe8de5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

Thanks for the answers.

<= di=3D v>In this case the only question is: what is better for me? Mode 5 or 6?
In which modes how is fast the switching? 

Until now I've use 802.3ad lacp on our old clu= st=3D er. I did some tests and it was very fast. I know it is not same, but mode = =3D 5 or 6 how is safe?
Thanks

<= /d=3D iv>
Regards,

Tibor<=3D div>


----- 2017. dec.. 11., 13:24, Simone Tir= ab=3D oschi <stirabos(a)redhat.com> =3DC3=3DADrta:


On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor <tde=3D meter(a)itsmart.hu> wrote:
Hi,

Could help anyone for me in this question?
Thanks.

R.

Tibor



----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor <tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu> =3DC3= =3DADrta:
Dear me= =3D mbers,

I would like to use two switch to make high-availabili= =3D ty network connection for my nfs storage.
=3D Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I can't stack them)  bu= t =3D I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding modes.  
I know,= =3D these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also how is safe?= =3D Are there for HA or for load balance? 

I've read some f= =3D orums, where does not recommended these modes to use in ovirt. What is the = =3D truths? 
I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it wi= =3D ll be separated from other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and t= =3D wo 10Gbe ports in my nodes. 

= =3D

Look he= re=3D :

"Importa= =3D nt: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtual machine (bridged) and non-vir= =3D tual machine (bridgeless) network types. Modes 0, 5 and 6 support non-virtu= =3D al machine (bridgeless) networks only.=3DC2=3DA8

So both tlb (mode 5) or alb (mode = 6)=3D are fine only if you use them just for the storage access but not for VMs.= =3D
 
Thanks in advance,= &n=3D bsp;

R

Tibor
 


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bD4KLS09X2QwZWRhODMzLWY3OGUtNGU1OS1iYWNjLTg2MTRhZmJlOGRlNS0tCg== --===============4206224746233833311==-- From lorenzetto.luca at gmail.com Tue Dec 12 18:35:07 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2990483868787613517==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] bonding mode-alb Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:35:05 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 1255052032.199572061.1513101991817.JavaMail.zimbra@itsmart.hu --===============2990483868787613517== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, If you're looking at a simple ha bonding setup, why not using active-backup (mode 1)? We're using it in almost all our setups and switches toin backup interface in 100ms when a link down is detected (Setting miimon=3D100). Doesn't aggregate bandwidth but is a very good solution for high availability whwn you can't configure lacp or a portchannel on switch side. Luca Il 12 dic 2017 7:06 PM, "Demeter Tibor" ha scritto: > Hi, > > Thanks for the answers. > > In this case the only question is: what is better for me? Mode 5 or 6? > In which modes how is fast the switching? > > Until now I've use 802.3ad lacp on our old cluster. I did some tests and > it was very fast. I know it is not same, but mode 5 or 6 how is safe? > Thanks > > Regards, > > Tibor > > > > ----- 2017. dec.. 11., 13:24, Simone Tiraboschi > =C3=ADrta: > > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Could help anyone for me in this question? >> > Thanks. >> >> R. >> >> Tibor >> >> >> >> ----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor =C3= =ADrta: >> >> Dear members, >> >> I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network >> connection for my nfs storage. >> Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I >> can't stack them) but I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding >> modes. >> I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also how >> is safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? >> >> I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in >> ovirt. What is the truths? >> I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from >> other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in = my >> nodes. >> >> > Look here: > https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/ > chap-Logical_Networks/#bonds-1 > > "Important: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtual machine (bridged) > and non-virtual machine (bridgeless) network types. Modes 0, 5 and 6 > support non-virtual machine (bridgeless) networks only.=C2=A8 > > So both tlb (mode 5) or alb (mode 6) are fine only if you use them just > for the storage access but not for VMs. > > >> Thanks in advance, >> >> R >> >> Tibor >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > --===============2990483868787613517== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" PGRpdiBkaXI9ImF1dG8iPkhpLDxkaXYgZGlyPSJhdXRvIj48YnI+PC9kaXY+PGRpdiBkaXI9ImF1 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tdemeter at itsmart.hu Fri Jan 26 12:53:54 2018 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2218061634501375629==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Demeter Tibor To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] bonding mode-alb Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 13:44:44 +0100 Message-ID: <1202470471.3488553.1516970684264.JavaMail.zimbra@itsmart.hu> In-Reply-To: CAKuX69oWNJXbunX-OAzGpG89YOnydZJtdZNNRAzx4O241yVVVA@mail.gmail.com --===============2218061634501375629== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D_60725094-7b89-47f5-a504-a4bb2e87b6d9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Luca,=3D20 Sorry for the very late reply..=3D20 I want to try out now your mentions.=3D20 Should I make an interconnect the two switches in active/backup mode?=3D20 Thanks!=3D20 Tibor=3D20 ----- 2017. dec.. 12., 19:35, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto =3DC3=3DADrta:=3D20 > Hi, > If you're looking at a simple ha bonding setup, why not using active-back= =3D up > (mode 1)? > We're using it in almost all our setups and switches toin backup interfac= =3D e in > 100ms when a link down is detected (Setting miimon=3D3D100). > Doesn't aggregate bandwidth but is a very good solution for high availabi= =3D lity > whwn you can't configure lacp or a portchannel on switch side. > Luca > Il 12 dic 2017 7:06 PM, "Demeter Tibor" < [ mailto:tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu | > tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu ] > ha scritto: >> Hi, >> Thanks for the answers. >> In this case the only question is: what is better for me? Mode 5 or 6? >> In which modes how is fast the switching? >> Until now I've use 802.3ad lacp on our old cluster. I did some tests and= =3D it was >> very fast. I know it is not same, but mode 5 or 6 how is safe? >> Thanks >> Regards, >> Tibor >> ----- 2017. dec.. 11., 13:24, Simone Tiraboschi < [ mailto:stirabos(a)re= dh=3D at.com | >> stirabos(a)redhat.com ] > =3DC3=3DADrta: >>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor < [ mailto:tdemeter(a)i= ts=3D mart.hu | >>> tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu ] > wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Could help anyone for me in this question? >>>> Thanks. >>>> R. >>>> Tibor >>>> ----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor < [ mailto:tdemeter(a)itsma= rt=3D .hu | >>>> tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu ] > =3DC3=3DADrta: >>>>> Dear members, >>>>> I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network conn= =3D ection for >>>>> my nfs storage. >>>>> Unfortunately, these switches does not support [ http://802.3.ad/ | 8= =3D 02.3.ad ] >>>>> lacp, (really I can't stack them) but I've read about mode-alb and mo= =3D de-tlb >>>>> bonding modes. >>>>> I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also= =3D how is >>>>> safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? >>>>> I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use = =3D in ovirt. >>>>> What is the truths? >>>>> I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated fr= =3D om other >>>>> network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my = =3D nodes. >>> Look here: >>> [ https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Logical_Networks= =3D /#bonds-1 >>> | >>> https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Logical_Networks/#= =3D bonds-1 >>> ] >>> "Important: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtual machine (bridged)= =3D and >>> non-virtual machine (bridgeless) network types. Modes 0, 5 and 6 suppor= =3D t >>> non-virtual machine (bridgeless) networks only.=3DC2=3DA8 >>> So both tlb (mode 5) or alb (mode 6) are fine only if you use them just= =3D for the >>> storage access but not for VMs. >>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>> R >>>>> Tibor >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Users mailing list >>>>> [ mailto:Users(a)ovirt.org | Users(a)ovirt.org ] >>>>> [ http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | >>>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> [ mailto:Users(a)ovirt.org | Users(a)ovirt.org ] >>>> [ http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ] >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> [ mailto:Users(a)ovirt.org | Users(a)ovirt.org ] >> [ http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users | >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users ] --=3D_60725094-7b89-47f5-a504-a4bb2e87b6d9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Luca,

Sorry for the very late reply..

I want to try out now your mentions.
Should I= m=3D ake an interconnect the two switches in active/backup mode?
Thank= =3D s!

Tibor

----- 2017. dec.. 12., 19:35, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto= &=3D lt;lorenzetto.luca(a)gmail.com> =3DC3=3DADrta:
Hi,

If you're looking at a simple ha bonding setup, why not using active= =3D -backup (mode 1)?

We= 're =3D using it in almost all our setups and switches toin backup interface in 100= =3D ms when a link down is detected (Setting miimon=3D3D100).

Doesn't aggregate bandwidth but is a very= g=3D ood solution for high availability whwn you can't configure lacp or a portc= =3D hannel on switch side.

L=3D uca

<= br><=3D div class=3D3D"gmail_quote">Il 12 dic 2017 7:06 PM, "Demeter Tibor" <tdemeter(a)itsmar= t.hu=3D > ha scritto:
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Hi,

Thanks for the answer= =3D s.

In this case the only question is: what is better for me? = =3D Mode 5 or 6?
In which modes how is fast the switching? 
Until now I've use 802.3ad lacp on our old cluster. I did some te= =3D sts and it was very fast. I know it is not same, but mode 5 or 6 how is saf= =3D e?
Thanks

Regards,

Tibor


----- 2017. dec.. 11., 13:24= , =3D Simone Tiraboschi <stirabos(a)redhat.com> =3DC3=3DADrta:


On Mon, = Dec =3D 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor <tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu> =3D wrote:
Hi,

Could help = =3D anyone for me in this question?
Thanks.
R.

Tibor



----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor <tdemeter(a)itsmart.hu>= =3DC3=3D =3DADrta:
Dear members,

I would like to use two switch to make high-= =3D availability network connection for my nfs storage.
Unfortunately, these switches does not suppo= =3D rt 802.3.ad lacp, (re= ally=3D I can't stack them)  but I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bondin= =3D g modes.  
I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how = =3D is work that? Also how is safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? = =3D

I've read some forums, where does not recommended these mode= =3D s to use in ovirt. What is the truths? 
I would like to use = =3D only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from other network traffic. = =3D I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in my nodes. 

<= =3D /span>

Look here:

"Important: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtua= =3D l machine (bridged) and non-virtual machine (bridgeless) network types. Mod= =3D es 0, 5 and 6 support non-virtual machine (bridgeless) networks only.=3DC2= =3DA8=3D

S= o bo=3D th tlb (mode 5) or alb (mode 6) are fine only if you use them just for the = =3D storage access but not for VMs.
 
Thanks in advance, 

R
Tibor
 

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--===============2218061634501375629==-- From lorenzetto.luca at gmail.com Fri Jan 26 13:06:24 2018 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8671247379621938706==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] bonding mode-alb Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:06:22 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 1202470471.3488553.1516970684264.JavaMail.zimbra@itsmart.hu --===============8671247379621938706== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Demeter, i don't know how the switch setup is done here, but as far as i know they aren't stacked through interconnect. Luca On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Demeter Tibor wrot= e: > Dear Luca, > > Sorry for the very late reply.. > > I want to try out now your mentions. > Should I make an interconnect the two switches in active/backup mode? > Thanks! > > Tibor > > ----- 2017. dec.. 12., 19:35, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto > =C3=ADrta: > > Hi, > > If you're looking at a simple ha bonding setup, why not using active-back= up > (mode 1)? > > We're using it in almost all our setups and switches toin backup interface > in 100ms when a link down is detected (Setting miimon=3D100). > > Doesn't aggregate bandwidth but is a very good solution for high > availability whwn you can't configure lacp or a portchannel on switch sid= e. > > Luca > > > Il 12 dic 2017 7:06 PM, "Demeter Tibor" ha scritt= o: >> >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for the answers. >> >> In this case the only question is: what is better for me? Mode 5 or 6? >> In which modes how is fast the switching? >> >> Until now I've use 802.3ad lacp on our old cluster. I did some tests and >> it was very fast. I know it is not same, but mode 5 or 6 how is safe? >> Thanks >> >> Regards, >> >> Tibor >> >> >> >> ----- 2017. dec.. 11., 13:24, Simone Tiraboschi >> =C3=ADrta: >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Could help anyone for me in this question? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> R. >>> >>> Tibor >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor =C3= =ADrta: >>> >>> Dear members, >>> >>> I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network >>> connection for my nfs storage. >>> Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I >>> can't stack them) but I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding mo= des. >>> I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also h= ow >>> is safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? >>> >>> I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in >>> ovirt. What is the truths? >>> I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from >>> other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports in= my >>> nodes. >>> >> >> Look here: >> >> https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Logical_Networks/#b= onds-1 >> >> "Important: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtual machine (bridged) >> and non-virtual machine (bridgeless) network types. Modes 0, 5 and 6 sup= port >> non-virtual machine (bridgeless) networks only.=C2=A8 >> >> So both tlb (mode 5) or alb (mode 6) are fine only if you use them just >> for the storage access but not for VMs. >> >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> R >>> >>> Tibor >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > -- = "E' assurdo impiegare gli uomini di intelligenza eccellente per fare calcoli che potrebbero essere affidati a chiunque se si usassero delle macchine" Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz, Filosofo e Matematico (1646-1716) "Internet =C3=A8 la pi=C3=B9 grande biblioteca del mondo. Ma il problema =C3=A8 che i libri sono tutti sparsi sul pavimento" John Allen Paulos, Matematico (1945-vivente) Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto, http://www.remixtj.net , --===============8671247379621938706==-- From tdemeter at itsmart.hu Fri Jan 26 13:25:10 2018 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7271837069520558683==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Demeter Tibor To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] bonding mode-alb Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2018 14:25:04 +0100 Message-ID: <31212285.3502686.1516973104165.JavaMail.zimbra@itsmart.hu> In-Reply-To: CAKuX69pdfg1XOb-u0QfBOX-HABVUk7YPgC+-F=NvwdoP92vDcA@mail.gmail.com --===============7271837069520558683== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Luca, I've created a config with two 16 port 10GBe switches,those does not connec= ted to each other. = I have 4 hosts and 1 storage host. I don't know why, but I can't ping from = all of host to all of hosts. = For example I can ping from .1 to .2 but not .3! From .3 I can ping .4 but = don't .1 :) I don't know the cables how is connected to the switch, but I'm sure every = host connected to switches whit two inferface (one-to-one) Thanks! Regards, Tibor ----- 2018. jan.. 26., 14:06, Luca remix_tj Lorenzetto lorenzetto.luca(a)gm= ail.com =C3=ADrta: > Hi Demeter, > = > i don't know how the switch setup is done here, but as far as i know > they aren't stacked through interconnect. > = > Luca > = > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Demeter Tibor wr= ote: >> Dear Luca, >> >> Sorry for the very late reply.. >> >> I want to try out now your mentions. >> Should I make an interconnect the two switches in active/backup mode? >> Thanks! >> >> Tibor >> >> ----- 2017. dec.. 12., 19:35, Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto >> =C3=ADrta: >> >> Hi, >> >> If you're looking at a simple ha bonding setup, why not using active-bac= kup >> (mode 1)? >> >> We're using it in almost all our setups and switches toin backup interfa= ce >> in 100ms when a link down is detected (Setting miimon=3D100). >> >> Doesn't aggregate bandwidth but is a very good solution for high >> availability whwn you can't configure lacp or a portchannel on switch si= de. >> >> Luca >> >> >> Il 12 dic 2017 7:06 PM, "Demeter Tibor" ha scrit= to: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Thanks for the answers. >>> >>> In this case the only question is: what is better for me? Mode 5 or 6? >>> In which modes how is fast the switching? >>> >>> Until now I've use 802.3ad lacp on our old cluster. I did some tests and >>> it was very fast. I know it is not same, but mode 5 or 6 how is safe? >>> Thanks >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Tibor >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- 2017. dec.. 11., 13:24, Simone Tiraboschi >>> =C3=ADrta: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Demeter Tibor >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Could help anyone for me in this question? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> R. >>>> >>>> Tibor >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- 2017. dec.. 6., 14:07, Demeter Tibor =C3= =ADrta: >>>> >>>> Dear members, >>>> >>>> I would like to use two switch to make high-availability network >>>> connection for my nfs storage. >>>> Unfortunately, these switches does not support 802.3.ad lacp, (really I >>>> can't stack them) but I've read about mode-alb and mode-tlb bonding m= odes. >>>> I know,these modes are available in ovirt, but how is work that? Also = how >>>> is safe? Are there for HA or for load balance? >>>> >>>> I've read some forums, where does not recommended these modes to use in >>>> ovirt. What is the truths? >>>> I would like to use only for storage-traffic, it will be separated from >>>> other network traffic. I have two 10Gbe switches and two 10Gbe ports i= n my >>>> nodes. >>>> >>> >>> Look here: >>> >>> https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-Logical_Networks/#= bonds-1 >>> >>> "Important: Modes 1, 2, 3, and 4 support both virtual machine (bridged) >>> and non-virtual machine (bridgeless) network types. Modes 0, 5 and 6 su= pport >>> non-virtual machine (bridgeless) networks only.=C2=A8 >>> >>> So both tlb (mode 5) or alb (mode 6) are fine only if you use them just >>> for the storage access but not for VMs. >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> >>>> R >>>> >>>> Tibor >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Users mailing list >>>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> > = > = > = > -- > "E' assurdo impiegare gli uomini di intelligenza eccellente per fare > calcoli che potrebbero essere affidati a chiunque se si usassero delle > macchine" > Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibnitz, Filosofo e Matematico (1646-1716) > = > "Internet =C3=A8 la pi=C3=B9 grande biblioteca del mondo. > Ma il problema =C3=A8 che i libri sono tutti sparsi sul pavimento" > John Allen Paulos, Matematico (1945-vivente) > = > Luca 'remix_tj' Lorenzetto, http://www.remixtj.net , --===============7271837069520558683==--