From suporte at logicworks.pt Mon Mar 18 13:41:08 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6068839616688158323==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: suporte at logicworks.pt To: users at ovirt.org Subject: [Users] Package installation error Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:40:56 +0000 Message-ID: <25756399.581.1363628455513.JavaMail.ferra@ferra-PC> In-Reply-To: 3611610.572.1363628400744.JavaMail.ferra@ferra-PC --===============6068839616688158323== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_580_33476106.1363628455511 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the installa= tion from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18 = Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.f= c18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D 3.4.0']. = Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D 3.4.0']. = Regards = Jose = ------=3D_Part_580_33476106.1363628455511 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <= div style=3D'font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; co= lor: #330066'>

Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the inst= allation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18

Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': = [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D 3.4.0'].

Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D = 3.4.0'].

Regards

Jose

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NDU1NTExLS0K --===============6068839616688158323==-- From alonbl at redhat.com Mon Mar 18 13:44:32 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4091863137250943222==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:44:12 -0400 Message-ID: <1048574911.7533276.1363628652829.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 25756399.581.1363628455513.JavaMail.ferra@ferra-PC --===============4091863137250943222== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is older th= an what requires. You probably need some testing repository. ----- Original Message ----- > From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > To: Users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM > Subject: [Users] Package installation error > = > = > = > = > = > Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the > installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18 > = > = > = > = > = > Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': > [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D 3.4.0']. > = > Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D > 3.4.0']. > = > = > = > = > Regards > = > = > = > = > Jose > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============4091863137250943222==-- From suporte at logicworks.pt Mon Mar 18 14:06:28 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8335244849752696435==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: suporte at logicworks.pt To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:06:17 +0000 Message-ID: <26462733.650.1363629974085.JavaMail.ferra@ferra-PC> In-Reply-To: 1048574911.7533276.1363628652829.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============8335244849752696435== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_649_8420628.1363629974081 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes i got it, but the installation is automatically. What can I do?=3D20 thanks=3D20 Jose=3D20 ----- Mensagem original ----- De: "Alon Bar-Lev" =3D20 Para: suporte(a)logicworks.pt=3D20 Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org=3D20 Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Mar=3DC3=3DA7o de 2013 17:44:12=3D20 Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error=3D20 The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is older th= =3D an what requires. You probably need some testing repository.=3D20 ----- Original Message -----=3D20 > From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt=3D20 > To: Users(a)ovirt.org=3D20 > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM=3D20 > Subject: [Users] Package installation error=3D20 >=3D20 >=3D20 >=3D20 >=3D20 >=3D20 > Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the=3D20 > installation from the engine 3.2.1. 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Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org
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Assunto: Re: [Users] Package install= atio=3D n error

The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to = =3D yum is older than what requires. You probably need some testing repository.= =3D

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alonbl at redhat.com Mon Mar 18 14:18:49 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1575418651934075930==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:16:24 -0400 Message-ID: <610063935.7560785.1363630584450.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 26462733.650.1363629974085.JavaMail.ferra@ferra-PC --===============1575418651934075930== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And the missing repository to the host before you perform the host deploy. ----- Original Message ----- > From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:06:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > = > Yes i got it, but the installation is automatically. What can I do? > = > thanks > Jose > = > ----- Original Message ----- > = > De: "Alon Bar-Lev" > Para: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org > Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2013 17:44:12 > Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is > older than what requires. You probably need some testing repository. > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > > To: Users(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM > > Subject: [Users] Package installation error > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the > > installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18 > > = > > = > > = > > = > > = > > Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': > > [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D > > 3.4.0']. > > = > > Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D > > 3.4.0']. > > = > > = > > = > > = > > Regards > > = > > = > > = > > = > > Jose > > = > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > = > = >=20 --===============1575418651934075930==-- From alonbl at redhat.com Mon Mar 18 14:28:36 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1108036127049200004==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:26:31 -0400 Message-ID: <530654566.7570691.1363631191228.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 610063935.7560785.1363630584450.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============1108036127049200004== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another option: if you are not really using gluster, remove the gluster sup= port from the ovirt-engine cluster. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" > To: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:16:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > And the missing repository to the host before you perform the host > deploy. > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 8:06:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > = > > = > > Yes i got it, but the installation is automatically. What can I do? > > = > > thanks > > Jose > > = > > ----- Original Message ----- > > = > > De: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > Para: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > > Cc: Users(a)ovirt.org > > Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 18 de Mar=C3=A7o de 2013 17:44:12 > > Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > = > > The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is > > older than what requires. You probably need some testing > > repository. > > = > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > > > To: Users(a)ovirt.org > > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM > > > Subject: [Users] Package installation error > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during > > > the > > > installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18 > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': > > > [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D > > > 3.4.0']. > > > = > > > Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D > > > 3.4.0']. > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > Regards > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > Jose > > > = > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > = > > = > > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============1108036127049200004==-- From dneary at redhat.com Mon Mar 18 16:49:14 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8448778034286922166==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:49:11 +0100 Message-ID: <51477DC7.4030309@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1048574911.7533276.1363628652829.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============8448778034286922166== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 03/18/2013 06:44 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is older = than what requires. You probably need some testing repository. I still don't understand why installing a host tries to install = vdsm-gluster - is there a dependency chain gone wrong? That package = should only be necesary if you're using the oVirt management interface = for Gluster, not a normal node install. Or am I misunderstanding what Jose wants to do? Cheers, Dave. > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt >> To: Users(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM >> Subject: [Users] Package installation error >> >> >> >> >> >> Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the >> installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18 >> >> >> >> >> >> Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': >> [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D 3.4.0']. >> >> Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D >> 3.4.0']. >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> Jose >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > -- = Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 --===============8448778034286922166==-- From alonbl at redhat.com Tue Mar 19 02:56:39 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3774284727023239742==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 02:56:38 -0400 Message-ID: <2008702016.7666137.1363676198837.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 51477DC7.4030309@redhat.com --===============3774284727023239742== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Neary" > To: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 10:49:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > Hi, > = > On 03/18/2013 06:44 PM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > The error is self explainable... the glusterfs available to yum is > > older than what requires. You probably need some testing > > repository. > = > I still don't understand why installing a host tries to install > vdsm-gluster - is there a dependency chain gone wrong? That package > should only be necesary if you're using the oVirt management > interface > for Gluster, not a normal node install. > = > Or am I misunderstanding what Jose wants to do? Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which version of= gluster is required and what is available in fedora. The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both gluster and vi= rt for the default domain, while in the past it used to default to virt. So= if you do not wish to use gluster, please do not select both at installati= on, or turn of the gluster from the cluster after installation. > = > Cheers, > Dave. > = > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: suporte(a)logicworks.pt > >> To: Users(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:40:56 PM > >> Subject: [Users] Package installation error > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Today I tried to intall another host and get this error during the > >> installation from the engine 3.2.1. The host is a fedora 18 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Failed to execute stage 'Package installation': > >> [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D > >> 3.4.0']. > >> > >> Yum [u'vdsm-gluster-4.10.3-10.fc18.noarch requires glusterfs >=3D > >> 3.4.0']. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Jose > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list > >> Users(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > = > -- > Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact > Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com > Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============3774284727023239742==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Mar 19 03:02:16 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0534827367230887087==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:02:13 +0100 Message-ID: <51480D75.1070004@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 2008702016.7666137.1363676198837.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============0534827367230887087== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alon, On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which version = of gluster is required and what is available in fedora. > > The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both gluster and = virt for the default domain, while in the past it used to default to virt. = So if you do not wish to use gluster, please do not select both at installa= tion, or turn of the gluster from the cluster after installation. I think the wording here is confusing. To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage domain = as shared storage. In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use = Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt. Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we are = not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version of = Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently, and = seems to be confusing people. Thanks, Dave. -- = Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 --===============0534827367230887087==-- From alonbl at redhat.com Tue Mar 19 03:16:31 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7770185803141557662==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 03:16:30 -0400 Message-ID: <250260112.7667469.1363677390286.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 51480D75.1070004@redhat.com --===============7770185803141557662== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Neary" > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:02:13 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > Hi Alon, > = > On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which > > version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora. > > > > The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both > > gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used > > to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please > > do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from > > the cluster after installation. > = > I think the wording here is confusing. > = > To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage > domain > as shared storage. > = > In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use > Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt. > = > Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we > are > not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version > of > Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently, > and > seems to be confusing people. > = > Thanks, > Dave. Now I am confused.... Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? --===============7770185803141557662==-- From noc at nieuwland.nl Tue Mar 19 04:01:25 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3666299416158670886==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: noc To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:01:05 +0100 Message-ID: <51481B41.8070806@nieuwland.nl> In-Reply-To: 250260112.7667469.1363677390286.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============3666299416158670886== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 19-3-2013 8:16, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dave Neary" >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:02:13 AM >> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error >> >> Hi Alon, >> >> On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >>> Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which >>> version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora. >>> >>> The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both >>> gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used >>> to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please >>> do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from >>> the cluster after installation. >> I think the wording here is confusing. >> >> To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage >> domain >> as shared storage. >> >> In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use >> Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt. >> >> Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we >> are >> not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version >> of >> Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently, >> and >> seems to be confusing people. >> >> Thanks, >> Dave. > Now I am confused.... > Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? If the gluster checkbox is set on the cluster then you'll need the = gluster packages. If you don't use gluster but said so = (both=3Dvirt+gluster) during engine-setup then the checkbox will be = checked and you'll need the packages. The bigger problem ofcourse is that oVirt-3.2.1 requires gluster-3.4.0 = which isn't in the standard repos at the moment. Joop -- irc: jvandewege --===============3666299416158670886==-- From dneary at redhat.com Tue Mar 19 04:11:59 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5281326216334835847==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:11:55 +0100 Message-ID: <51481DCB.4000107@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 250260112.7667469.1363677390286.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============5281326216334835847== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > Now I am confused.... > Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? Allow me to clarify. There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 release = asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt. My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to = manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong, and = confusing them during the installation & set-up process? Thanks, Dave. -- = Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 --===============5281326216334835847==-- From barumuga at redhat.com Tue Mar 19 05:09:52 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9045571343476571615==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Balamurugan Arumugam To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:39:43 +0530 Message-ID: <51482B57.4030002@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 51481B41.8070806@nieuwland.nl --===============9045571343476571615== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/19/2013 01:31 PM, noc wrote: > On 19-3-2013 8:16, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dave Neary" >>> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:02:13 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error >>> >>> Hi Alon, >>> >>> On 03/19/2013 07:56 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >>>> Obviously something is wrong with the dependency, not sure which >>>> version of gluster is required and what is available in fedora. >>>> >>>> The root cause of this is that setup defaults no to use both >>>> gluster and virt for the default domain, while in the past it used >>>> to default to virt. So if you do not wish to use gluster, please >>>> do not select both at installation, or turn of the gluster from >>>> the cluster after installation. >>> I think the wording here is confusing. >>> >>> To an oVirt user, "using Gluster" means having a Gluster storage >>> domain >>> as shared storage. >>> >>> In the context of the Gluster management console, oVirt does not use >>> Gluster, Gluster uses oVirt. >>> >>> Would it be possible to review the set-up process to ensure that we >>> are >>> not inadvertently sending users who just want to use a stable version >>> of >>> Gluster as storage in the wrong direction? This comes up frequently, >>> and >>> seems to be confusing people. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dave. >> Now I am confused.... >> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > If the gluster checkbox is set on the cluster then you'll need the > gluster packages. If you don't use gluster but said so > (both=3Dvirt+gluster) during engine-setup then the checkbox will be > checked and you'll need the packages. > The bigger problem ofcourse is that oVirt-3.2.1 requires gluster-3.4.0 > which isn't in the standard repos at the moment. > Regarding glusterfs 3.4.0 packages, gluster 3.4.0alpha2 version is = available at = http://bits.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/3.4.0alpha2/x86_64/ and = which is not available in Fedora repository. BTW gluster-3.4.0 is under = development and stable version will be available soon. Regards, Bala --===============9045571343476571615==-- From sabose at redhat.com Tue Mar 19 05:24:27 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6231318964305040685==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sahina Bose To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:54:23 +0530 Message-ID: <51482EC7.1010402@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 51481DCB.4000107@redhat.com --===============6231318964305040685== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster clusters. Currently the question asked at setup is this : "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different = application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage = gluster storage only], and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both = is the default. If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions? On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >> Now I am confused.... >> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > > Allow me to clarify. > > There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 = > release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt. > > My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to = > manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > > So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong, = > and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? > > Thanks, > Dave. > --===============6231318964305040685==-- From suporte at logicworks.pt Tue Mar 19 05:43:50 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6016168406228976748==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: suporte at logicworks.pt To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:43:37 +0000 Message-ID: <13419659.253.1363686215399.JavaMail.ferra@ferra-PC> In-Reply-To: 51482EC7.1010402@redhat.com --===============6016168406228976748== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_252_270319.1363686215399 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is right : "The bigger problem of course is that oVirt-3.2.1 requires = =3D gluster-3.4.0=3D20 which isn't in the standard repos at the moment. "=3D20 I want to use gluster, because, in my understanding, glusterfs allow me to = =3D share a storage (2 or more) between 2 or more hosts, like a virtual disk, a= =3D nd this is essential for live migration or HA.=3D20 I get from the gluster site, related to Gluster 3.4 alpha and QEMU 1.4.0 : = =3D "... new QEMU/GlusterFS native integration leveraging libgfapi. For those o= =3D f you wondering what that means, in short, there=3DE2=3D80=3D99s no need fo= r FUSE=3D anymore and QEMU leverages GlusterFS natively on the back end. Awesome."= =3D =3D20 This could be an advantage? It's not only required to manage gluster cluste= =3D rs, but as a better integration.=3D20 Let me know if I wrote something wrong.=3D20 Now things seems to be working, what I did was create a file in the host: /= =3D etc/yum.repos.d/stage.repo=3D20 [glusterfs]=3D20 name=3D3DGlusterFS=3D20 baseurl=3D3Dhttp://bits.gluster.org/pub/gluster/glusterfs/stage/=3D20 gpgcheck=3D3D1=3D20 gpgkey=3D3Dfile:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-Gluster=3D20 because of the self signed I get some errors, so I did:=3D20 yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs*=3D20 yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs-server*=3D20 yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs-rdma*=3D20 And that's it everything works.=3D20 The installation should be more nicely=3D20 Thanks=3D20 Jose=3D20 ----- Mensagem original ----- De: "Sahina Bose" =3D20 Para: "Dave Neary" =3D20 Cc: users(a)ovirt.org=3D20 Enviadas: Ter=3DC3=3DA7a-feira, 19 de Mar=3DC3=3DA7o de 2013 9:24:23=3D20 Assunto: Re: [Users] Package installation error=3D20 You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster clusters.=3D= 20 Currently the question asked at setup is this :=3D20 "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different=3D20 application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage=3D20 gluster storage only],=3D20 and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both=3D20 is the default.=3D20 If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions?= =3D =3D20 On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:=3D20 > Hi,=3D20 >=3D20 > On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:=3D20 >> Now I am confused....=3D20 >> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system?=3D20 >=3D20 > Allow me to clarify.=3D20 >=3D20 > There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2=3D20 > release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.=3D20 >=3D20 > My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to=3D= 20 > manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt.=3D20 >=3D20 > So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong,=3D20 > and confusing them during the installation & set-up process?=3D20 >=3D20 > Thanks,=3D20 > Dave.=3D20 >=3D20 _______________________________________________=3D20 Users mailing list=3D20 Users(a)ovirt.org=3D20 http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users=3D20 ------=3D_Part_252_270319.1363686215399 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <=3D div style=3D3D'font-family: verdana,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; = co=3D lor: #330066'>That is right : "The bigger problem of course is that oVirt-3= =3D .2.1 requires gluster-3.4.0
which isn't in the standard repos at the moment."

I want to use gluster, because, in my understanding, glusterfs allow me=3D20 to share a storage (2 or more) between 2 or more hosts, like a virtual disk= =3D , and=3D20 this is essential for live migration or HA.
I get from the gluster= =3D site, related to Gluster 3.4 alpha and QEMU 1.4.0 : "... new QEMU/GlusterF= =3D S native integration leveraging libgfapi. For those of you wondering what that means, in short, there=3DE2=3D80=3D99s no need for= FUSE=3D =3D20 anymore and QEMU leverages GlusterFS natively on the back end. Awesome."
This could be an advantage? It's not only required to manage gluster = =3D clusters, but as a better integration.
Let me know if I wrote something = =3D wrong.

Now things seems to be working, what I did was create a file = =3D in the host: /etc/yum.repos.d/stage.repo

gpgcheck=3D3D1

gpgkey=3D3Dfile:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-Gluster<=3D /p>
because of the self signed I get some errors, so I did:

yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs*

yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs-server*

yum install --nogpgcheck glusterfs-rdma*

And that's it everything works.

The installation should be m= =3D ore nicely

Thanks
Jose

De: "Sahina Bose" <sabose(a)redhat.com>
Para: "Dav= e =3D Neary" <dneary(a)redhat.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
En= viad=3D as: Ter=3DC3=3DA7a-feira, 19 de Mar=3DC3=3DA7o de 2013 9:24:23
As= sunto: <=3D /b>Re: [Users] Package installation error

You are right - Gluster 3.= =3D 4 is only required to manage gluster clusters.

Currently the questio= =3D n asked at setup is this :

"The engine can be configured to present = =3D the UI in three different
application modes. virt [Manage virtualizatio= =3D n only], gluster [Manage
gluster storage only],
and both [Manage vir= =3D tualization as well as gluster storage]" where both
is the default.
= =3D
If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestio= =3D ns?

On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi,
>= =3D ;
> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
>> Now I am = =3D confused....
>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your syst= =3D em?
>
> Allow me to clarify.
>
> There have been se= =3D veral messages from users since the oVirt 3.2
> release asking why t= =3D hey need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt.
>
> My understa= =3D nding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to
> manage= =3D a Gluster cluster with oVirt.
>
> So my question is: are we su= =3D re that we are not leading users wrong,
> and confusing them during = =3D the installation & set-up process?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave= =3D .
>

_______________________________________________
Users m= =3D ailing list
Users(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo= /u=3D sers

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eT48L2h0bWw+Ci0tLS0tLT1fUGFydF8yNTJfMjcwMzE5LjEzNjM2ODYyMTUzOTktLQoK --===============6016168406228976748==-- From dneary at redhat.com Thu Mar 21 12:34:58 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1424887000773453525==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Neary To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:34:56 -0400 Message-ID: <514B36B0.7030605@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 51482EC7.1010402@redhat.com --===============1424887000773453525== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster clusters. > > Currently the question asked at setup is this : > > "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different > application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster [Manage > gluster storage only], > and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where both > is the default. > > If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. Suggestions? I would either: (a) put "Virt" as the default, or (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt, = assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster, have = an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management console. If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt with = oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps with = an extra package to install (which would depend on the later version of = Gluster). Cheers, Dave. > On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >>> Now I am confused.... >>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? >> >> Allow me to clarify. >> >> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 >> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run oVirt. >> >> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you want to >> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. >> >> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users wrong, >> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? >> >> Thanks, >> Dave. >> > -- = Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 --===============1424887000773453525==-- From alonbl at redhat.com Thu Mar 21 12:35:56 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6847999564375154231==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:35:56 -0400 Message-ID: <72558692.8295993.1363883756161.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 514B36B0.7030605@redhat.com --===============6847999564375154231== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simon? ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Neary" > To: "Sahina Bose" > Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" , users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > Hi, > = > On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > > You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster > > clusters. > > > > Currently the question asked at setup is this : > > > > "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three different > > application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster > > [Manage > > gluster storage only], > > and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" where > > both > > is the default. > > > > If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. > > Suggestions? > = > I would either: > = > (a) put "Virt" as the default, or > (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt, > assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster, > have > an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management > console. > = > If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt > with > oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps > with > an extra package to install (which would depend on the later version > of > Gluster). > = > Cheers, > Dave. > = > = > = > > On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > >>> Now I am confused.... > >>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > >> > >> Allow me to clarify. > >> > >> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 > >> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run > >> oVirt. > >> > >> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you > >> want to > >> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > >> > >> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users > >> wrong, > >> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dave. > >> > > > = > -- > Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact > Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com > Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 >=20 --===============6847999564375154231==-- From simon at redhat.com Thu Mar 21 13:40:18 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4862902652398197472==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Grinberg To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:40:17 -0400 Message-ID: <14212490.631.1363887581176.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: 72558692.8295993.1363883756161.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============4862902652398197472== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" > To: "Dave Neary" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Simon Grinbe= rg" > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > Simon? > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Neary" > > To: "Sahina Bose" > > Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" , users(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > = > > Hi, > > = > > On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > > > You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster > > > clusters. > > > > > > Currently the question asked at setup is this : > > > > > > "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three > > > different > > > application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster > > > [Manage > > > gluster storage only], > > > and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" > > > where > > > both > > > is the default. > > > > > > If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. > > > Suggestions? > > = > > I would either: > > = > > (a) put "Virt" as the default, or I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. = Is there an easy method to change this configuration later? = > > (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing oVirt, > > assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing Gluster, > > have > > an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management > > console. We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option. > > = > > If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their virt > > with > > oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps > > with > > an extra package to install (which would depend on the later > > version > > of > > Gluster). > > = > > Cheers, > > Dave. > > = > > = > > = > > > On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > >>> Now I am confused.... > > >>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > > >> > > >> Allow me to clarify. > > >> > > >> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt 3.2 > > >> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run > > >> oVirt. > > >> > > >> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you > > >> want to > > >> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > > >> > > >> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users > > >> wrong, > > >> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Dave. > > >> > > > > > = > > -- > > Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact > > Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com > > Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 > > = >=20 --===============4862902652398197472==-- From alonbl at redhat.com Thu Mar 21 14:41:35 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6248252863096419632==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:41:34 -0400 Message-ID: <1741794118.8321968.1363891294846.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 14212490.631.1363887581176.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost --===============6248252863096419632== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Grinberg" > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Dave Neary" = > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > = > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > To: "Dave Neary" > > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Simon > > Grinberg" > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > = > > Simon? > > = > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dave Neary" > > > To: "Sahina Bose" > > > Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" , users(a)ovirt.org > > > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > > = > > > Hi, > > > = > > > On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > > > > You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster > > > > clusters. > > > > > > > > Currently the question asked at setup is this : > > > > > > > > "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three > > > > different > > > > application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster > > > > [Manage > > > > gluster storage only], > > > > and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" > > > > where > > > > both > > > > is the default. > > > > > > > > If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. > > > > Suggestions? > > > = > > > I would either: > > > = > > > (a) put "Virt" as the default, or > = > I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. > Is there an easy method to change this configuration later? Yes, changing the cluster settings. > = > > > (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing > > > oVirt, > > > assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing > > > Gluster, > > > have > > > an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management > > > console. > = > We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option. > = > > > = > > > If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their > > > virt > > > with > > > oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps > > > with > > > an extra package to install (which would depend on the later > > > version > > > of > > > Gluster). > > > = > > > Cheers, > > > Dave. > > > = > > > = > > > = > > > > On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > > >>> Now I am confused.... > > > >>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > > > >> > > > >> Allow me to clarify. > > > >> > > > >> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt > > > >> 3.2 > > > >> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run > > > >> oVirt. > > > >> > > > >> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you > > > >> want to > > > >> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > > > >> > > > >> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users > > > >> wrong, > > > >> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Dave. > > > >> > > > > > > > = > > > -- > > > Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact > > > Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com > > > Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 > > > = > > = >=20 --===============6248252863096419632==-- From Karli.Sjoberg at slu.se Fri Mar 22 02:13:14 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2254083574787008452==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: =?utf-8?q?Karli_Sj=C3=B6berg_=3CKarli=2ESjoberg_at_slu=2Ese=3E?= To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:13:12 +0000 Message-ID: <5F9E965F5A80BC468BE5F40576769F0920B83979@exchange2-1> 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<514BFB80.3000906@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1741794118.8321968.1363891294846.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============7462231293828924556== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Simon Grinberg" >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Dave Neary"= >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" >>> To: "Dave Neary" >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Simon >>> Grinberg" >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error >>> >>> Simon? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Dave Neary" >>>> To: "Sahina Bose" >>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" , users(a)ovirt.org >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: >>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster >>>>> clusters. >>>>> >>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this : >>>>> >>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three >>>>> different >>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster >>>>> [Manage >>>>> gluster storage only], >>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" >>>>> where >>>>> both >>>>> is the default. >>>>> >>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. >>>>> Suggestions? >>>> I would either: >>>> >>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or >> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. >> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later? > Yes, changing the cluster settings. No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster service) = only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the cluster = is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to be able = to change the mode *after* installation, this config (ApplicationMode) = must be exposed in the engine-config tool. > >>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing >>>> oVirt, >>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing >>>> Gluster, >>>> have >>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt management >>>> console. >> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option. >> >>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their >>>> virt >>>> with >>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - perhaps >>>> with >>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later >>>> version >>>> of >>>> Gluster). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Dave. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: >>>>>>> Now I am confused.... >>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? >>>>>> Allow me to clarify. >>>>>> >>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt >>>>>> 3.2 >>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run >>>>>> oVirt. >>>>>> >>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you >>>>>> want to >>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. >>>>>> >>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users >>>>>> wrong, >>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Dave. >>>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact >>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com >>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 >>>> > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --===============7462231293828924556==-- From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com Fri Mar 22 03:11:59 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8364777222053528412==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gianluca Cecchi To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:11:58 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 514BFB80.3000906@redhat.com --===============8364777222053528412== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Shireesh Anjal wrote: >>>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you >>>>>>> want to >>>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users >>>>>>> wrong, >>>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? >>>>>>> Hello, I think I have not understood yet this matter at all and this double engine thing... Is there a link / doc to read about this addition? And in case could we also refine it and put a link to the web page during install phase? Gianluca --===============8364777222053528412==-- From simon at redhat.com Fri Mar 22 11:46:02 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6629940764403438679==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Grinberg To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:46:01 -0400 Message-ID: <23229674.157.1363967124809.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: 514BFB80.3000906@redhat.com --===============6629940764403438679== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shireesh Anjal" > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > Cc: "Simon Grinberg" , users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:34:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Simon Grinberg" > >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Dave > >> Neary" > >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" > >>> To: "Dave Neary" > >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Simon > >>> Grinberg" > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > >>> > >>> Simon? > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: "Dave Neary" > >>>> To: "Sahina Bose" > >>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" , users(a)ovirt.org > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM > >>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > >>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage gluster > >>>>> clusters. > >>>>> > >>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this : > >>>>> > >>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three > >>>>> different > >>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster > >>>>> [Manage > >>>>> gluster storage only], > >>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" > >>>>> where > >>>>> both > >>>>> is the default. > >>>>> > >>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. > >>>>> Suggestions? > >>>> I would either: > >>>> > >>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or > >> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. > >> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later? > > Yes, changing the cluster settings. > = > No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster > service) > only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the > cluster > is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to be > able > to change the mode *after* installation, this config > (ApplicationMode) > must be exposed in the engine-config tool. So if I'll try to sum up (with reference to other emails on this thread). = 1. Default should be virt only 2. Keep the question and better explain what is the Gluster option (prefera= ble a link to the relevant page) = 3. Add a config option to easily change the selection later = Need to think about the implication of the third option in case the change = conflicts with hosts/clusters that are already configured other wise. = Example: Initial selection was Virt and now adding dual mode - always OK = Example: Initial selection was Virt, no host in the setup, and now changing= to Gluster mode - OK Example: Initial selection was Virt, Hosts already in the setup installed i= n virt mode, and now changing to Gluster mode - What will we do? My take, = Config option can only set to dual mode, never the other way around. This w= ill save the need to add sophisticated logic = Sounds right? > = > > > >>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing > >>>> oVirt, > >>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing > >>>> Gluster, > >>>> have > >>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt > >>>> management > >>>> console. > >> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option. > >> > >>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their > >>>> virt > >>>> with > >>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - > >>>> perhaps > >>>> with > >>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later > >>>> version > >>>> of > >>>> Gluster). > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Dave. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > >>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > >>>>>>> Now I am confused.... > >>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > >>>>>> Allow me to clarify. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt > >>>>>> 3.2 > >>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run > >>>>>> oVirt. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless you > >>>>>> want to > >>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users > >>>>>> wrong, > >>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Dave. > >>>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact > >>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com > >>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > = >=20 --===============6629940764403438679==-- From alonbl at redhat.com Fri Mar 22 11:51:24 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4345635962151246417==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alon Bar-Lev To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:51:23 -0400 Message-ID: <636422892.8529831.1363967483449.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 23229674.157.1363967124809.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost --===============4345635962151246417== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Grinberg" > To: "Shireesh Anjal" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:46:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > = > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shireesh Anjal" > > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > Cc: "Simon Grinberg" , users(a)ovirt.org > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:34:40 AM > > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > = > > On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Simon Grinberg" > > >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Dave > > >> Neary" > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM > > >> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > >>> To: "Dave Neary" > > >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Simon > > >>> Grinberg" > > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > >>> > > >>> Simon? > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: "Dave Neary" > > >>>> To: "Sahina Bose" > > >>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" , users(a)ovirt.org > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > >>>> > > >>>> Hi, > > >>>> > > >>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > > >>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage > > >>>>> gluster > > >>>>> clusters. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this : > > >>>>> > > >>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three > > >>>>> different > > >>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], gluster > > >>>>> [Manage > > >>>>> gluster storage only], > > >>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster storage]" > > >>>>> where > > >>>>> both > > >>>>> is the default. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this message. > > >>>>> Suggestions? > > >>>> I would either: > > >>>> > > >>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or > > >> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. > > >> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later? > > > Yes, changing the cluster settings. > > = > > No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster > > service) > > only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the > > cluster > > is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to be > > able > > to change the mode *after* installation, this config > > (ApplicationMode) > > must be exposed in the engine-config tool. > = > So if I'll try to sum up (with reference to other emails on this > thread). > 1. Default should be virt only > 2. Keep the question and better explain what is the Gluster option > (preferable a link to the relevant page) > 3. Add a config option to easily change the selection later > Need to think about the implication of the third option in case the > change conflicts with hosts/clusters that are already configured > other wise. > Example: Initial selection was Virt and now adding dual mode - always > OK > Example: Initial selection was Virt, no host in the setup, and now > changing to Gluster mode - OK > Example: Initial selection was Virt, Hosts already in the setup > installed in virt mode, and now changing to Gluster mode - What will > we do? > = > My take, > Config option can only set to dual mode, never the other way around. > This will save the need to add sophisticated logic > = > Sounds right? Yes, but I am unsure that this is a single config option... Maybe I did not understand you properly, but I think this should be an opti= on in the UI. And... if this option is in UI, then... why do we need anything at setup...= ? user can log into the system and configure the cluster in any way he like= s. I am thinking into the future that when first login into the admin console = there should be some wizard, instead of performing this at setup time. > = > = > > = > > > > > >>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing > > >>>> oVirt, > > >>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing > > >>>> Gluster, > > >>>> have > > >>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt > > >>>> management > > >>>> console. > > >> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option. > > >> > > >>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and their > > >>>> virt > > >>>> with > > >>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - > > >>>> perhaps > > >>>> with > > >>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later > > >>>> version > > >>>> of > > >>>> Gluster). > > >>>> > > >>>> Cheers, > > >>>> Dave. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > > >>>>>> Hi, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > >>>>>>> Now I am confused.... > > >>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > > >>>>>> Allow me to clarify. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the oVirt > > >>>>>> 3.2 > > >>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to run > > >>>>>> oVirt. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless > > >>>>>> you > > >>>>>> want to > > >>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading users > > >>>>>> wrong, > > >>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up process? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > >>>>>> Dave. > > >>>>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact > > >>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - > > >>>> http://community.redhat.com > > >>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 > > >>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Users mailing list > > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > = > > = >=20 --===============4345635962151246417==-- From simon at redhat.com Fri Mar 22 12:08:59 2013 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7369229284510309029==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Simon Grinberg To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:08:58 -0400 Message-ID: <2286578.192.1363968499260.JavaMail.javamailuser@localhost> In-Reply-To: 636422892.8529831.1363967483449.JavaMail.root@redhat.com --===============7369229284510309029== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alon Bar-Lev" > To: "Simon Grinberg" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Shireesh Anjal" > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:51:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > = > = > = > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Simon Grinberg" > > To: "Shireesh Anjal" > > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Alon Bar-Lev" > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:46:01 PM > > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > = > > = > > = > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shireesh Anjal" > > > To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > > Cc: "Simon Grinberg" , users(a)ovirt.org > > > Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:34:40 AM > > > Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > > = > > > On 03/22/2013 12:11 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Simon Grinberg" > > > >> To: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > > >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , "Dave > > > >> Neary" > > > >> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:40:17 PM > > > >> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>> From: "Alon Bar-Lev" > > > >>> To: "Dave Neary" > > > >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Sahina Bose" , > > > >>> "Simon > > > >>> Grinberg" > > > >>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:35:56 PM > > > >>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > > >>> > > > >>> Simon? > > > >>> > > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >>>> From: "Dave Neary" > > > >>>> To: "Sahina Bose" > > > >>>> Cc: "Alon Bar-Lev" , users(a)ovirt.org > > > >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:34:56 PM > > > >>>> Subject: Re: [Users] Package installation error > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Hi, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 03/19/2013 05:24 AM, Sahina Bose wrote: > > > >>>>> You are right - Gluster 3.4 is only required to manage > > > >>>>> gluster > > > >>>>> clusters. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Currently the question asked at setup is this : > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> "The engine can be configured to present the UI in three > > > >>>>> different > > > >>>>> application modes. virt [Manage virtualization only], > > > >>>>> gluster > > > >>>>> [Manage > > > >>>>> gluster storage only], > > > >>>>> and both [Manage virtualization as well as gluster > > > >>>>> storage]" > > > >>>>> where > > > >>>>> both > > > >>>>> is the default. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> If this is confusing to the user, we can change this > > > >>>>> message. > > > >>>>> Suggestions? > > > >>>> I would either: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> (a) put "Virt" as the default, or > > > >> I would go for this one, this keeps backwards compatibility. > > > >> Is there an easy method to change this configuration later? > > > > Yes, changing the cluster settings. > > > = > > > No - you can change the cluster settings (virt service/gluster > > > service) > > > only if the application mode is "both". In virt only mode, the > > > cluster > > > is virt only, and same with gluster-only. So if you want user to > > > be > > > able > > > to change the mode *after* installation, this config > > > (ApplicationMode) > > > must be exposed in the engine-config tool. > > = > > So if I'll try to sum up (with reference to other emails on this > > thread). > > 1. Default should be virt only > > 2. Keep the question and better explain what is the Gluster option > > (preferable a link to the relevant page) > > 3. Add a config option to easily change the selection later > > Need to think about the implication of the third option in case the > > change conflicts with hosts/clusters that are already configured > > other wise. > > Example: Initial selection was Virt and now adding dual mode - > > always > > OK > > Example: Initial selection was Virt, no host in the setup, and now > > changing to Gluster mode - OK > > Example: Initial selection was Virt, Hosts already in the setup > > installed in virt mode, and now changing to Gluster mode - What > > will > > we do? > > = > > My take, > > Config option can only set to dual mode, never the other way > > around. > > This will save the need to add sophisticated logic > > = > > Sounds right? > = > Yes, but I am unsure that this is a single config option... > Maybe I did not understand you properly, but I think this should be > an option in the UI. AFAIK, it's an option in the _options table that is not yet exposed to the = -config utility The reason it's there since it's alters the appearance and removes some GUI= options in the first place. > = > And... if this option is in UI, then... why do we need anything at > setup...? user can log into the system and configure the cluster in > any way he likes. Well that was the initial idea behind the dual mode, everything exposed and= the user selects in the GUI on the cluster level what to use. This confuse= s users as this thread apparently exposes. Users that do not care about Glu= sters would like not to bother to set this up on each cluster, and vice ver= se. = > = > I am thinking into the future that when first login into the admin > console there should be some wizard, instead of performing this at > setup time. If configuration options are allowed to be dynamically modified (and we ar= e working to have it so) this does not contradict, the wizard is just a fir= st login graphical setup. = > = > > = > > = > > > = > > > > > > > >>>> (b) remove this question entirely - if someone is installing > > > >>>> oVirt, > > > >>>> assume they want to manage virt. If someone is installing > > > >>>> Gluster, > > > >>>> have > > > >>>> an option during the Gluster install to have the oVirt > > > >>>> management > > > >>>> console. > > > >> We do want people to get exposed to the Gluster option. > > > >> > > > >>>> If someone wants to manage both their Gluster bricks and > > > >>>> their > > > >>>> virt > > > >>>> with > > > >>>> oVirt, I would make that a post-install option to oVirt - > > > >>>> perhaps > > > >>>> with > > > >>>> an extra package to install (which would depend on the later > > > >>>> version > > > >>>> of > > > >>>> Gluster). > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Cheers, > > > >>>> Dave. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On 03/19/2013 01:41 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > > > >>>>>> Hi, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> On 03/19/2013 08:16 AM, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > > >>>>>>> Now I am confused.... > > > >>>>>>> Do you or don't you need vdsm-gluster on your system? > > > >>>>>> Allow me to clarify. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> There have been several messages from users since the > > > >>>>>> oVirt > > > >>>>>> 3.2 > > > >>>>>> release asking why they need Gluster 3.4 pre-releases to > > > >>>>>> run > > > >>>>>> oVirt. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> My understanding is that you don't need Gluster 3.4 unless > > > >>>>>> you > > > >>>>>> want to > > > >>>>>> manage a Gluster cluster with oVirt. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> So my question is: are we sure that we are not leading > > > >>>>>> users > > > >>>>>> wrong, > > > >>>>>> and confusing them during the installation & set-up > > > >>>>>> process? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>>> Dave. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Dave Neary - Community Action and Impact > > > >>>> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - > > > >>>> http://community.redhat.com > > > >>>> Ph: +33 9 50 71 55 62 / Cell: +33 6 77 01 92 13 > > > >>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Users mailing list > > > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > = > > > = > > = >=20 --===============7369229284510309029==--