From dael.maselli at lnf.infn.it Mon Feb 27 06:05:02 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1814983580676530670==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dael Maselli To: users at ovirt.org Subject: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 12:04:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4F4B635A.1060406@lnf.infn.it> --===============1814983580676530670== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms050101000407080407030404 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=3D"------------090605000100000404080507" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090605000100000404080507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly=3D20 downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for users = =3D of Fedora, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for=3D20 these system (version 6.2). Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? Thank you. Dael Maselli. --=3D20 ___________________________________________________________________ Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 ___________________________________________________________________ *http://www.lnf.infn.it/ *http://www.infn.it/ * *http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ *http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * ___________________________________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch ___________________________________________________________________ --------------090605000100000404080507 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,

I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly downloaded the Installation Guide and I read:

"The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for users of Fedora, Red
Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives."

I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for these system (version 6.2).

Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS?

Thank you.

Dael Maselli.

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Dael Maselli  ---  INFN-LNF Computing Service  --  +39.06.9403.2214
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         * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ *

  * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ *
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 17:27:48 +0200 Message-ID: <4FCF76F4.4030407@lnf.infn.it> In-Reply-To: 4F4B635A.1060406@lnf.infn.it --===============8955762154057972116== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090902020905060009050208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could you please answer this question? Thank you. Dael Maselli. On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: > Hi, > > I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly = > downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: > > "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for = > users of Fedora, Red > Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." > > I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for = > these system (version 6.2). > > Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? > > Thank you. > > Dael Maselli. > > > -- = > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > > *http://www.lnf.infn.it/ *http://www.infn.it/ * > > *http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ *http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- = ___________________________________________________________________ Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 ___________________________________________________________________ * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * ___________________________________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch ___________________________________________________________________ --------------090902020905060009050208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Could you please answer this question?

Thank you.

Dael Maselli.

On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote:

Hi,

I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly downloaded the Installation Guide and I read:

"The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for users of Fedora, Red
Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives."

I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for these system (version 6.2).

Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS?

Thank you.

Dael Maselli.
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MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Oved Ourfalli To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:30:29 -0400 Message-ID: <88d63c1e-312e-4eb5-9835-de85d49ce183@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FCF76F4.4030407@lnf.infn.it --===============4691875193783264532== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps this will help: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ (didn't test it, but saw it as an answer here when other people asked about= running oVirt on centos). Oved ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dael Maselli" > To: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. > = > = > = > Could you please answer this question? > = > Thank you. > = > Dael Maselli. > = > = > On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: > = > Hi, > = > I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly > downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: > = > "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for > users of Fedora, Red > Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." > = > I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for > these system (version 6.2). > = > Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? > = > Thank you. > = > Dael Maselli. > = > = > -- > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > = > * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > -- > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > = > * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============4691875193783264532==-- From dael.maselli at lnf.infn.it Wed Jun 6 12:46:51 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3289053155676861048==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dael Maselli To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:46:45 +0200 Message-ID: <4FCF8975.6010405@lnf.infn.it> In-Reply-To: 88d63c1e-312e-4eb5-9835-de85d49ce183@zmail02.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============3289053155676861048== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040501040802050701000301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry, I don't want to be polemical. I know about the wonderful work = of dreyou, but I'm asking for something more "official" now. I need something in which I can reasonably trust along years, something = like what happens for "389 Directory Server" for example. oVirt instead is officially released only for Fedora, that has very = short upgrade cycle, and I can't imagine to upgrade my production = servers every 6 months. I hope, and I think many will agree, that you will consider to add = "RedHat and derivates" to the list of supported OS. Thank you very much. Best regards, Dael Maselli. On 06/06/12 17.30, Oved Ourfalli wrote: > Perhaps this will help: > http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ > > (didn't test it, but saw it as an answer here when other people asked abo= ut running oVirt on centos). > > Oved > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dael Maselli" >> To: users(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. >> >> >> >> Could you please answer this question? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Dael Maselli. >> >> >> On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly >> downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: >> >> "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for >> users of Fedora, Red >> Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." >> >> I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for >> these system (version 6.2). >> >> Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Dael Maselli. >> >> >> -- >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >> >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> -- >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >> >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> -- = ___________________________________________________________________ Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 ___________________________________________________________________ * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * ___________________________________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch ___________________________________________________________________ --------------040501040802050701000301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DUTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I'm sorry, I don't want to be polemical. I know about the wonderful work of dreyou, but I'm asking for something more "official" now.

I need something in which I can reasonably trust along years, something like what happens for "389 Directory Server" for example.

oVirt instead is officially released only for Fedora, that has very short upgrade cycle, and I can't imagine to upgrade my production servers every 6 months.

I hope, and I think many will agree, that you will consider to add "RedHat and derivates" to the list of supported OS.

Thank you very much.

Best regards,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Dael Maselli.

On 06/06/12 17.30, Oved Ourfalli wrote:

Perhaps this will help:
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tp://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/

(didn't test it, but saw it as an answer here when other people asked about=
 running oVirt on centos).

Oved

----- Original Message -----

From: "Dael Maselli" <dael.maselli(a)lnf.infn.=
it>
To: users(a)ovirt.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co.



Could you please answer this question?

Thank you.

Dael Maselli.


On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote:

Hi,

I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly
downloaded the Installation Guide and I read:

"The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for
users of Fedora, Red
Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives."

I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for
these system (version 6.2).

Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS?

Thank you.

Dael Maselli.


--
___________________________________________________________________

Dael Maselli  ---  INFN-LNF Computing Service  --  +39.06.9403.2214
___________________________________________________________________

         * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ *

  * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ *
___________________________________________________________________

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch
___________________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________
Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users
--
___________________________________________________________________

Dael Maselli  ---  INFN-LNF Computing Service  --  +39.06.9403.2214
___________________________________________________________________

         * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ *

  * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ *
___________________________________________________________________

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch
___________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________
Users mailing list
Use=
rs(a)ovirt.org
http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users

-- =

___________________________________________________________________

Dael Maselli  ---  INFN-LNF Computing Service  --  +39.06.9403.2214
___________________________________________________________________

         * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ *

  * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ *
___________________________________________________________________

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch
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redhat.com Thu Jun 7 02:08:46 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3683471385575733870==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dan Yasny To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:08:41 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 4FCF8975.6010405@lnf.infn.it --===============3683471385575733870== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dael Maselli" > To: "Oved Ourfalli" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, 6 June, 2012 7:46:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. > = > = > = > I'm sorry, I don't want to be polemical. I know about the wonderful > work of dreyou, but I'm asking for something more "official" now. > = > I need something in which I can reasonably trust along years, > something like what happens for "389 Directory Server" for example. > = > oVirt instead is officially released only for Fedora, that has very > short upgrade cycle, and I can't imagine to upgrade my production > servers every 6 months. Production grade and very long lifecycles - sounds like you need to look at= the downstream product of oVirt - RHEV > = > I hope, and I think many will agree, that you will consider to add > "RedHat and derivates" to the list of supported OS. > = > Thank you very much. > = > Best regards, > Dael Maselli. > = > = > = > On 06/06/12 17.30, Oved Ourfalli wrote: > = > Perhaps this will help: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ (didn't test it, > but saw it as an answer here when other people asked about running > oVirt on centos). > = > Oved > = > ----- Original Message ----- > = > From: "Dael Maselli" To: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. > = > = > = > Could you please answer this question? > = > Thank you. > = > Dael Maselli. > = > = > On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: > = > Hi, > = > I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly > downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: > = > "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for > users of Fedora, Red > Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." > = > I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for > these system (version 6.2). > = > Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? > = > Thank you. > = > Dael Maselli. > = > = > -- > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > = > * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > = > * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > -- > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > = > * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > = -- = Regards, = Dan Yasny = Red Hat Israel = +972 9769 2280 --===============3683471385575733870==-- From dael.maselli at lnf.infn.it Thu Jun 7 06:07:33 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1905167949083477757==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dael Maselli To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:07:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4FD07D5F.3030505@lnf.infn.it> In-Reply-To: c3325608-fcae-4ee4-95e4-f8a183e24798@zmail10.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============1905167949083477757== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't need SLA or support. I don't need RedHat. Production is what I expect from a software that is developed for = performance load balancing, high-avaliability, failover, etc. To me it seems natural, as I use to do with all Linux software, we use = in production: Sendmail, Named Bind, 389 Directory Server, Mysql, = Dovecot and so on. They are all on Scientific Linux or CentOS. Is this = so strange? But finally, nobody answered my question: Do you plan to officially release oVirt for RedHat and derivates? Thank you again. Regards, Dael Maselli. On 07/06/12 08.08, Dan Yasny wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dael Maselli" >> To: "Oved Ourfalli" >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June, 2012 7:46:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. >> >> >> >> I'm sorry, I don't want to be polemical. I know about the wonderful >> work of dreyou, but I'm asking for something more "official" now. >> >> I need something in which I can reasonably trust along years, >> something like what happens for "389 Directory Server" for example. >> >> oVirt instead is officially released only for Fedora, that has very >> short upgrade cycle, and I can't imagine to upgrade my production >> servers every 6 months. > Production grade and very long lifecycles - sounds like you need to look = at the downstream product of oVirt - RHEV > >> I hope, and I think many will agree, that you will consider to add >> "RedHat and derivates" to the list of supported OS. >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> Best regards, >> Dael Maselli. >> >> >> >> On 06/06/12 17.30, Oved Ourfalli wrote: >> >> Perhaps this will help: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ (didn't test it, >> but saw it as an answer here when other people asked about running >> oVirt on centos). >> >> Oved >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Dael Maselli" To: users(a)ovirt.org >> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. >> >> >> >> Could you please answer this question? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Dael Maselli. >> >> >> On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly >> downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: >> >> "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for >> users of Fedora, Red >> Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." >> >> I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for >> these system (version 6.2). >> >> Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Dael Maselli. >> >> >> -- >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >> >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >> >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> -- >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >> >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> -- = ___________________________________________________________________ Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 ___________________________________________________________________ * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * ___________________________________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch ___________________________________________________________________ --===============1905167949083477757==-- From dyasny at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 07:47:57 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3081166379152337409==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dan Yasny To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:47:53 -0400 Message-ID: <355d1772-7312-483d-8382-0105ce1f2ba7@zmail10.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FD07D5F.3030505@lnf.infn.it --===============3081166379152337409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dael Maselli" > To: "Dan Yasny" > Cc: users(a)ovirt.org, "Oved Ourfalli" > Sent: Thursday, 7 June, 2012 1:07:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. > = > I don't need SLA or support. I don't need RedHat. > = > Production is what I expect from a software that is developed for > performance load balancing, high-avaliability, failover, etc. > = > To me it seems natural, as I use to do with all Linux software, we > use > in production: Sendmail, Named Bind, 389 Directory Server, Mysql, > Dovecot and so on. They are all on Scientific Linux or CentOS. Is > this > so strange? > = > But finally, nobody answered my question: > = > Do you plan to officially release oVirt for RedHat and > derivates? I might not have the last say on this, but as a rule of thumb, any package = released with RHEL is _supported_ by Red Hat. So I doubt this will happen, = as Red Hat will not support oVirt as a part of RHEL. The community might release a build that fits RHEL and its derivatives, but= how "official" it will be I can't say. = Actually, this leads me to another point - please do define "official" in t= his context > = > Thank you again. > = > Regards, > Dael Maselli. > = > = > = > On 07/06/12 08.08, Dan Yasny wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Dael Maselli" > >> To: "Oved Ourfalli" > >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June, 2012 7:46:45 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm sorry, I don't want to be polemical. I know about the > >> wonderful > >> work of dreyou, but I'm asking for something more "official" now. > >> > >> I need something in which I can reasonably trust along years, > >> something like what happens for "389 Directory Server" for > >> example. > >> > >> oVirt instead is officially released only for Fedora, that has > >> very > >> short upgrade cycle, and I can't imagine to upgrade my production > >> servers every 6 months. > > Production grade and very long lifecycles - sounds like you need to > > look at the downstream product of oVirt - RHEV > > > >> I hope, and I think many will agree, that you will consider to add > >> "RedHat and derivates" to the list of supported OS. > >> > >> Thank you very much. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Dael Maselli. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 06/06/12 17.30, Oved Ourfalli wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps this will help: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ (didn't test > >> it, > >> but saw it as an answer here when other people asked about running > >> oVirt on centos). > >> > >> Oved > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: "Dael Maselli" To: > >> users(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. > >> > >> > >> > >> Could you please answer this question? > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Dael Maselli. > >> > >> > >> On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I > >> suddenly > >> downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: > >> > >> "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for > >> users of Fedora, Red > >> Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." > >> > >> I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm > >> for > >> these system (version 6.2). > >> > >> Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Dael Maselli. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- > >> +39.06.9403.2214 > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > >> > >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for > >> lunch > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- > >> +39.06.9403.2214 > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > >> > >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for > >> lunch > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> -- > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- > >> +39.06.9403.2214 > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > >> > >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for > >> lunch > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list > >> Users(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > = > -- > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > = > * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > = -- = Regards, = Dan Yasny = Red Hat Israel = +972 9769 2280 --===============3081166379152337409==-- From iheim at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 07:54:27 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6029301820194473559==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:54:21 +0300 Message-ID: <4FD0966D.4010206@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FD07D5F.3030505@lnf.infn.it --===============6029301820194473559== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/07/2012 01:07 PM, Dael Maselli wrote: > I don't need SLA or support. I don't need RedHat. > > Production is what I expect from a software that is developed for > performance load balancing, high-avaliability, failover, etc. > > To me it seems natural, as I use to do with all Linux software, we use > in production: Sendmail, Named Bind, 389 Directory Server, Mysql, > Dovecot and so on. They are all on Scientific Linux or CentOS. Is this > so strange? > > But finally, nobody answered my question: > > Do you plan to officially release oVirt for RedHat and derivates? we are looking at an .el6 ovirt version, but still didn't finish = analyzing what it would take. > > Thank you again. > > Regards, > Dael Maselli. > > > > On 07/06/12 08.08, Dan Yasny wrote: >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Dael Maselli" >>> To: "Oved Ourfalli" >>> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org >>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June, 2012 7:46:45 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm sorry, I don't want to be polemical. I know about the wonderful >>> work of dreyou, but I'm asking for something more "official" now. >>> >>> I need something in which I can reasonably trust along years, >>> something like what happens for "389 Directory Server" for example. >>> >>> oVirt instead is officially released only for Fedora, that has very >>> short upgrade cycle, and I can't imagine to upgrade my production >>> servers every 6 months. >> Production grade and very long lifecycles - sounds like you need to >> look at the downstream product of oVirt - RHEV >> >>> I hope, and I think many will agree, that you will consider to add >>> "RedHat and derivates" to the list of supported OS. >>> >>> Thank you very much. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Dael Maselli. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 06/06/12 17.30, Oved Ourfalli wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps this will help: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ (didn't test it, >>> but saw it as an answer here when other people asked about running >>> oVirt on centos). >>> >>> Oved >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Dael Maselli" To: users(a)ovirt.org >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. >>> >>> >>> >>> Could you please answer this question? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Dael Maselli. >>> >>> >>> On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I suddenly >>> downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: >>> >>> "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for >>> users of Fedora, Red >>> Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." >>> >>> I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm for >>> these system (version 6.2). >>> >>> Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Dael Maselli. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >>> >>> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >>> >>> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> -- >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * >>> >>> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Users mailing list >>> Users(a)ovirt.org >>> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >>> > --===============6029301820194473559==-- From acathrow at redhat.com Thu Jun 7 07:54:34 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5741218193876114282==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Andrew Cathrow To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:54:31 -0400 Message-ID: <78a92a9d-5276-41a0-a531-1fc688b79d9b@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 4FD07D5F.3030505@lnf.infn.it --===============5741218193876114282== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dael Maselli" > To: "Dan Yasny" > Cc: "Oved Ourfalli" , users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 6:07:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. > = > I don't need SLA or support. I don't need RedHat. You say that you don't need an SLA for software, only for your mailing list= questions? > = > Production is what I expect from a software that is developed for > performance load balancing, high-avaliability, failover, etc. > = > To me it seems natural, as I use to do with all Linux software, we > use > in production: Sendmail, Named Bind, 389 Directory Server, Mysql, > Dovecot and so on. They are all on Scientific Linux or CentOS. Is > this > so strange? > = > But finally, nobody answered my question: > = > Do you plan to officially release oVirt for RedHat and > derivates? We do want to package oVirt 3.1 for EL6 however it comes behind fedora in t= erms of priority but it's something we certainly want to make happen. There's extra work to do in addition to compiling and packaging oVirt, for = example we need JBoss AS7 packaged in RPMs for EL6. If this is important to you then the best way of making it happen quicker i= s to contribute, it was great to see dreyou filling this gap, that's the wa= y open source projects work. > = > Thank you again. > = > Regards, > Dael Maselli. > = > = > = > On 07/06/12 08.08, Dan Yasny wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Dael Maselli" > >> To: "Oved Ourfalli" > >> Cc: users(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June, 2012 7:46:45 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm sorry, I don't want to be polemical. I know about the > >> wonderful > >> work of dreyou, but I'm asking for something more "official" now. > >> > >> I need something in which I can reasonably trust along years, > >> something like what happens for "389 Directory Server" for > >> example. > >> > >> oVirt instead is officially released only for Fedora, that has > >> very > >> short upgrade cycle, and I can't imagine to upgrade my production > >> servers every 6 months. > > Production grade and very long lifecycles - sounds like you need to > > look at the downstream product of oVirt - RHEV > > > >> I hope, and I think many will agree, that you will consider to add > >> "RedHat and derivates" to the list of supported OS. > >> > >> Thank you very much. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Dael Maselli. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 06/06/12 17.30, Oved Ourfalli wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps this will help: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/ (didn't test > >> it, > >> but saw it as an answer here when other people asked about running > >> oVirt on centos). > >> > >> Oved > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> From: "Dael Maselli" To: > >> users(a)ovirt.org > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:27:48 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL& Co. > >> > >> > >> > >> Could you please answer this question? > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Dael Maselli. > >> > >> > >> On 27/02/12 12.04, Dael Maselli wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I was waiting the first release impatiently, when it was I > >> suddenly > >> downloaded the Installation Guide and I read: > >> > >> "The packages provided via this mechanism are expected to work for > >> users of Fedora, Red > >> Hat Enterprise Linux, and other Enterprise Linux derivatives." > >> > >> I have Scientific Linux and/or Centos, but I can't find the rpm > >> for > >> these system (version 6.2). > >> > >> Do you plan to build and realease also for those OS? > >> > >> Thank you. > >> > >> Dael Maselli. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- > >> +39.06.9403.2214 > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > >> > >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for > >> lunch > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- > >> +39.06.9403.2214 > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > >> > >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for > >> lunch > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list Users(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> -- > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- > >> +39.06.9403.2214 > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > >> > >> * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> > >> Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for > >> lunch > >> ___________________________________________________________________ > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Users mailing list > >> Users(a)ovirt.org > >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > = > -- > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * > = > * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch > ___________________________________________________________________ > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============5741218193876114282==-- From nathan at robotics.net Thu Jun 7 12:30:56 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0290378145172238031==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Nathan Stratton To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 4FD07D5F.3030505@lnf.infn.it --===============0290378145172238031== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 7 Jun 2012, Dael Maselli wrote: > I don't need SLA or support. I don't need RedHat. Interesting, you say that, yet from your email your almost demanding they = provide oVirt in a form that works best for you. > Production is what I expect from a software that is developed for perform= ance = > load balancing, high-avaliability, failover, etc. > > To me it seems natural, as I use to do with all Linux software, we use in = > production: Sendmail, Named Bind, 389 Directory Server, Mysql, Dovecot an= d so = > on. They are all on Scientific Linux or CentOS. Is this so strange? > > But finally, nobody answered my question: > > Do you plan to officially release oVirt for RedHat and derivates? I don't work for RedHat, but I would guess this would follow their normal = work flow of Fedora first and then RHEL second as a commercial solution. ><> Nathan Stratton nathan at robotics.net http://www.robotics.net --===============0290378145172238031==-- From dael.maselli at lnf.infn.it Fri Jun 8 05:31:50 2012 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0498072991281635068==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dael Maselli To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] oVirt RPM for RHEL & Co. Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:31:44 +0200 Message-ID: <4FD1C680.6070809@lnf.infn.it> In-Reply-To: 78a92a9d-5276-41a0-a531-1fc688b79d9b@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com --===============0498072991281635068== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/06/12 13.54, Andrew Cathrow wrote: >> Do you plan to officially release oVirt for RedHat and >> > derivates? > We do want to package oVirt 3.1 for EL6 however it comes behind fedora in= terms of priority but it's something we certainly want to make happen. > There's extra work to do in addition to compiling and packaging oVirt, fo= r example we need JBoss AS7 packaged in RPMs for EL6. This was the only answer I would. Thank you. The rest now is not so important. I repeat that what I would is = something like 389ds. When I said "officially" it was not something = about law, obviously. I thank all of you very much for your work. I never wanted this polemic. = Just want to see oVirt on EPEL ;-) Best regards, Dael Maselli. -- = ___________________________________________________________________ Dael Maselli --- INFN-LNF Computing Service -- +39.06.9403.2214 ___________________________________________________________________ * http://www.lnf.infn.it/ * http://www.infn.it/ * * http://www.FrascatiScienza.it/ * http://www.BucoNero.eu/ * ___________________________________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch ___________________________________________________________________ --===============0498072991281635068==--