From ovirt at bercot.org Thu Aug 7 03:45:48 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1863110480066705402==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David BERCOT To: users at ovirt.org Subject: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:45:46 +0200 Message-ID: <20140807094546.6a7fad4e@debian-david> --===============1863110480066705402== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I'm French, I work for the French administration and this is my first message on this list... At the moment, we use VMware (vSphere 5.1/5.5, cloud edition) for our virtualized complex infrastructures. I've discovered recently that oVirt offers enhanced features, closed to the ones of VMware. Is the product sufficiently advanced yet ? I don't know and I hope you'll be able to help me ;-) My first question is about hypervisor... In VMware infrastructures, we use a microkernel since the version 4 (before, it was an hypervisor based on a RedHat core). On the oVirt site, I can download ovirt-engine to install it over Debian/RedHat/CentOS, etc... But it seems to be less optimised because some ressources are used by the underlying OS... Can you explain me differences between this technology and the VMware one ? Thank you. David. --===============1863110480066705402==-- From j.astrego at netbulae.eu Thu Aug 7 04:56:39 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5023628326892908242==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Jorick Astrego To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 10:56:35 +0200 Message-ID: <53E33F43.3060502@netbulae.eu> In-Reply-To: 20140807094546.6a7fad4e@debian-david --===============5023628326892908242== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000605000905030708080202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08/07/2014 09:45 AM, David BERCOT wrote: > Hello, > > I'm French, I work for the French administration and this is my first > message on this list... > > At the moment, we use VMware (vSphere 5.1/5.5, cloud edition) for our > virtualized complex infrastructures. > > I've discovered recently that oVirt offers enhanced features, closed to > the ones of VMware. Is the product sufficiently advanced yet ? I don't > know and I hope you'll be able to help me ;-) Welcome David, We find it sufficiently advanced, since 3.5 is nearing release most of = our wishlist has been taken care off ;-) Check out the case stories like = (http://www.ovirt.org/Brussels_Airport_Case_Study) > My first question is about hypervisor... In VMware infrastructures, we > use a microkernel since the version 4 (before, it was an hypervisor > based on a RedHat core). > > On the oVirt site, I can download ovirt-engine to install it over > Debian/RedHat/CentOS, etc... But it seems to be less optimised because > some ressources are used by the underlying OS... Ovirt engine is the management part (like vCenter), there is no need for = it to be that optimized as it's not running VM's itself. What you're talking about is ovirt node: http://www.ovirt.org/Node > Can you explain me differences between this technology and the VMware > one ? A bit outdated: http://www.siliconloons.com/open-source-cloud-and-virtualization-terminolog= y-for-vmware-users/ Some more reading: Virtual data center management with oVirt 3.4 http://lwn.net/Articles/600370/ > Thank you. > > David. > _______________________________________________ > That's my 2c. Kind regards, Jorick Astrego Netbulae B.V. --------------000605000905030708080202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 08/07/2014 09:45 AM, David BERCOT wrote:
Hello,

I'm French, I work for the French administration and this is my first
message on this list...

At the moment, we use VMware (vSphere 5.1/5.5, cloud edition) for our
virtualized complex infrastructures.

I've discovered recently that oVirt offers enhanced features, closed to
the ones of VMware. Is the product sufficiently advanced yet ? I don't
know and I hope you'll be able to help me ;-)
Welcome David,


We find it sufficiently advanced, since 3.5 is nearing release most of our wishlist has been taken care off ;-)
Check out the case stories like (http://www.ovirt.org/Brussels_Airport_Case_Study= )

My first question is about hypervisor... In VMware inf=
rastructures, we
use a microkernel since the version 4 (before, it was an hypervisor
based on a RedHat core).

On the oVirt site, I can download ovirt-engine to install it over
Debian/RedHat/CentOS, etc... But it seems to be less optimised because
some ressources are used by the underlying OS...
Ovirt engine is the management part (like vCenter), there is no need for it to be that optimized as it's not running VM's itself.
What you're talking about is ovirt node: http://www.ovirt.org/Node
Can you explain me differences between this technology and the VMware
one ?
A bit outdated:

http://www.= siliconloons.com/open-source-cloud-and-virtualization-terminology-for-vmwar= e-users/

Some more reading:

Virtual data center management with oVirt 3.4
http://lwn.net/Articles/600370/

Thank you.

David.
_______________________________________________
That's my 2c.

Kind regards,

Jorick Astrego
Netbulae B.V.

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MDgwODAyMDItLQoK --===============5023628326892908242==-- From ovirt at bercot.org Thu Aug 7 05:44:28 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0571467228726742729==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David BERCOT To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:44:26 +0200 Message-ID: <20140807114426.44c7cd97@debian-david> In-Reply-To: 53E33F43.3060502@netbulae.eu --===============0571467228726742729== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 07 Aug 2014 10:56:35 +0200, Jorick Astrego a =C3=A9crit : >On 08/07/2014 09:45 AM, David BERCOT wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'm French, I work for the French administration and this is my first >> message on this list... >> >> At the moment, we use VMware (vSphere 5.1/5.5, cloud edition) for our >> virtualized complex infrastructures. >> >> I've discovered recently that oVirt offers enhanced features, closed >> to the ones of VMware. Is the product sufficiently advanced yet ? I >> don't know and I hope you'll be able to help me ;-) >Welcome David, Thank you ;-) >We find it sufficiently advanced, since 3.5 is nearing release most of = >our wishlist has been taken care off ;-) >Check out the case stories like = >(http://www.ovirt.org/Brussels_Airport_Case_Study) Yes, it is an interesting article even if I did not understand the Openstack point because, if I'm not wrong, Openstack can run over any virtualization solution, VMware, KVM, etc... >> My first question is about hypervisor... In VMware infrastructures, >> we use a microkernel since the version 4 (before, it was an >> hypervisor based on a RedHat core). >> >> On the oVirt site, I can download ovirt-engine to install it over >> Debian/RedHat/CentOS, etc... But it seems to be less optimised >> because some ressources are used by the underlying OS... >Ovirt engine is the management part (like vCenter), there is no need >for it to be that optimized as it's not running VM's itself. Yes, I saw my mistake between oVirt engine and oVirt node ;-) My really question was : is it a good idea to run the oVirt node over another OS ? It would be more performant to run the oVirt node directly over the hardware, like ESXi... May be it is in the roadmap ? And I have another question : is there something like VMFS to store the VM in the SAN ? It's more performant to use FC than NFS shares... Thank you. David. >What you're talking about is ovirt node: http://www.ovirt.org/Node >> Can you explain me differences between this technology and the VMware >> one ? >A bit outdated: > >http://www.siliconloons.com/open-source-cloud-and-virtualization-terminolo= gy-for-vmware-users/ > >Some more reading: > >Virtual data center management with oVirt 3.4 >http://lwn.net/Articles/600370/ > >> Thank you. >> >> David. >> _______________________________________________ >> >That's my 2c. > >Kind regards, > >Jorick Astrego >Netbulae B.V. --===============0571467228726742729==-- From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 08:03:16 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6296304573996836687==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gianluca Cecchi To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:03:15 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 20140807114426.44c7cd97@debian-david --===============6296304573996836687== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Il 07/ago/2014 11:44 "David BERCOT" @ bercot.org > ha scritto: > My really question was : is it a good idea to run the oVirt node over > another OS ? It would be more performant to run the oVirt node directly > over the hardware, like ESXi... > May be it is in the roadmap ? VMware says esxi is a bare-metal hypervisor and there is not an underlying os. Someone else says it is based on vmkernel operating system ( where vmkernel is defined as a posix-like operating system). In my opinion the oVirt node is to be intended something like ESXi: an os with the smallest possible footprint, dedicated to run as a KVM hypervisor. The difference being that it is based on Linux and not developed from scratch. 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Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 12:16:34 +0000 Message-ID: <53E36EDC.3000603@mittwald.de> In-Reply-To: CAG2kNCwaoLqq4rzq7kpuxqK3trcUtRn=Zs2k_Hormj=vnuNOew@mail.gmail.com --===============8701038765484633544== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI: actually the vmware kernel leverages many open source drivers from the linux kernel and I highly suspect that it is in fact a custom linux kernel. some evidence that supports this view is the recent attempt of vmware to join the linux-distros mailinglist to get early access to vulnerabilities in open source code. you can just join this list if you offer a kind of "linux" distribution (or something very close to it). here is a thread for further reading on the case: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/403 PS: regarding ovirt-node: it's actually a very trimmed down linux system, just enough to act as an hypervisor, so it's bare metal virtualization (I would even argue that there is no such thing as a type 1 hypervisor, because if you talk about type 1 hypervisors the hypervisor itself is the operating system kernel, which is also the case for kvm, as it is a linux kernel module). HTH Am 07.08.2014 14:03, schrieb Gianluca Cecchi: > VMware says esxi is a bare-metal hypervisor and there is not an underlying > os. Someone else says it is based on vmkernel operating system ( where > vmkernel is defined as a posix-like operating system). > In my opinion the oVirt node is to be intended something like ESXi: an os > with the smallest possible footprint, dedicated to run as a KVM hyperviso= r. > The difference being that it is based on Linux and not developed from > scratch. -- = Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG K=C3=B6nigsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplement=C3=A4rin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynh= ausen --===============8701038765484633544==-- From ovirt at bercot.org Thu Aug 7 08:48:31 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7166326513929420711==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David BERCOT To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:48:30 +0200 Message-ID: <20140807144830.6820988d@debian-david> In-Reply-To: CAG2kNCwaoLqq4rzq7kpuxqK3trcUtRn=Zs2k_Hormj=vnuNOew@mail.gmail.com --===============7166326513929420711== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:03:15 +0200, Gianluca Cecchi a =C3=A9crit : >Il 07/ago/2014 11:44 "David BERCOT" @ >bercot.org > ha scritto: > >> My really question was : is it a good idea to run the oVirt node over >> another OS ? It would be more performant to run the oVirt node >> directly over the hardware, like ESXi... >> May be it is in the roadmap ? > >VMware says esxi is a bare-metal hypervisor and there is not an >underlying os. Someone else says it is based on vmkernel operating >system ( where vmkernel is defined as a posix-like operating system). >In my opinion the oVirt node is to be intended something like ESXi: an >os with the smallest possible footprint, dedicated to run as a KVM >hypervisor. The difference being that it is based on Linux and not >developed from scratch. It is OK for me to have an oVirt node similar to ESXi, except that it is based on Linux. But on the oVirt site, I've found oVirt node packages to install over RH, Fedora, Debian, CentOS, etc... Is there a "dedicated" oVirt-node ISO, based on the Linux kernel, but optimized for KVM, without other kernel modules we can see on RH, Fedora, Debian, CentOS, etc... ? Thank you. David. --===============7166326513929420711==-- From ovirt at bercot.org Thu Aug 7 08:54:04 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7275262749189231902==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David BERCOT To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 14:54:02 +0200 Message-ID: <20140807145402.73bd87f1@debian-david> In-Reply-To: 53E36EDC.3000603@mittwald.de --===============7275262749189231902== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:16:34 +0000, Sven Kieske a =C3=A9crit : >FYI: > >actually the vmware kernel leverages many open source drivers >from the linux kernel and I highly suspect that it is in fact >a custom linux kernel. > >some evidence that supports this view is the recent >attempt of vmware to join the linux-distros mailinglist >to get early access to vulnerabilities in open source code. > >you can just join this list if you offer a kind of "linux" distribution >(or something very close to it). > >here is a thread for further reading on the case: >http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/403 > >PS: regarding ovirt-node: >it's actually a very trimmed down linux system, just enough >to act as an hypervisor, so it's bare metal virtualization >(I would even argue that there is no such thing as a type 1 >hypervisor, because if you talk about type 1 hypervisors >the hypervisor itself is the operating system kernel, which is also >the case for kvm, as it is a linux kernel module). If I understand well, oVirt-node is very very close to ESXi (which is good news ;-)). But to have such a "bare metal virtualization", we have not to install a "complete" OS (like RH, Fedora, Debian, etc...) and then to add oVirt-node packages ??? It should be a very light kernel with only oVirt-node (KVM ?) modules/packages, no ? There is only this part I do not understand !?!? Thank you. David. --===============7275262749189231902==-- From S.Kieske at mittwald.de Thu Aug 7 08:58:49 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2522331080240265756==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sven Kieske To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 12:55:40 +0000 Message-ID: <53E37806.3030905@mittwald.de> In-Reply-To: 20140807144830.6820988d@debian-david --===============2522331080240265756== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't actually use it myself so take my information with a grain of salt, as it might not be 100% accurate. afaik this is the current stable ovirt-node iso: http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.4/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.4-20140423.0.e= l6.iso it comes in 2 flavors: el6 based and fedora based. so it's actually a trimmed down el6/fedora version I cc'ed fabian who can give more information on the case, because he is the maintainer of the node project (i hope this is still correct). HTH Am 07.08.2014 14:48, schrieb David BERCOT: > Is there a "dedicated" oVirt-node ISO, based on the Linux kernel, but > optimized for KVM, without other kernel modules we can see on RH, > Fedora, Debian, CentOS, etc... ? -- = Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG K=C3=B6nigsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplement=C3=A4rin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynh= ausen --===============2522331080240265756==-- From ovirt at bercot.org Thu Aug 7 09:10:50 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6655367207330183226==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David BERCOT To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 15:10:48 +0200 Message-ID: <20140807151048.7ad178fc@debian-david> In-Reply-To: 53E37806.3030905@mittwald.de --===============6655367207330183226== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:55:40 +0000, Sven Kieske a =C3=A9crit : >I don't actually use it myself so >take my information with a grain of salt, as it might not >be 100% accurate. > >afaik this is the current stable ovirt-node iso: > >http://resources.ovirt.org/releases/3.4/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.4-20140423.0.= el6.iso > >it comes in 2 flavors: el6 based and fedora based. > >so it's actually a trimmed down el6/fedora version > >I cc'ed fabian who can give more information on the >case, because he is the maintainer of the node project >(i hope this is still correct). Ah, great !!! And is there a Debian flavor ? It is my favorite distribution ;-) Thank you. David. --===============6655367207330183226==-- From S.Kieske at mittwald.de Thu Aug 7 09:32:45 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9168428346834241907==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sven Kieske To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:29:19 +0000 Message-ID: <53E37FE9.9010400@mittwald.de> In-Reply-To: 20140807151048.7ad178fc@debian-david --===============9168428346834241907== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am 07.08.2014 15:10, schrieb David BERCOT: > Ah, great !!! And is there a Debian flavor ? > It is my favorite distribution ;-) Not yet, and I don't know if it is on the roadmap. you could maybe create your own, it's basically this workflow: install $distro throw out all unneeded stuff install virt stuff (libvirt+vdsm) apply hardening (selinux etc) create iso I go with centos minimal and customize that myself, works really well. I don't know if vdsm is already complete platform independent (afaik it should be). the initial development was all on fedora and el6, so this is where it runs best atm. but I know for sure there are plans to make it distribution agnostic, but I don't know if this includes a pre-created iso for ovirt-node based on debian or gentoo. maybe fabian can shed some light on the future plans. alon can maybe give some insight into how distribution agnostic ovirt already is and what future plans are, thus cc'ing them. -- = Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG K=C3=B6nigsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplement=C3=A4rin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynh= ausen --===============9168428346834241907==-- From fdeutsch at redhat.com Thu Aug 7 10:29:22 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6607992482174456182==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Fabian Deutsch To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 10:29:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1784993973.15428298.1407421760306.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 53E37FE9.9010400@mittwald.de --===============6607992482174456182== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > = > = > Am 07.08.2014 15:10, schrieb David BERCOT: > > Ah, great !!! And is there a Debian flavor ? No. Currently not. But Node became more stable over the last months, and you might want to try= this snapshot build: http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-3.5-pre/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ovirt= 35.20140805.0.el6.iso > > It is my favorite distribution ;-) > = > Not yet, and I don't know if it is on the roadmap. > you could maybe create your own, it's basically > this workflow: > install $distro > throw out all unneeded stuff > install virt stuff (libvirt+vdsm) > apply hardening (selinux etc) > create iso > = > I go with centos minimal and customize > that myself, works really well. > = > I don't know if vdsm is already complete > platform independent (afaik it should be). > = > the initial development was all on fedora > and el6, so this is where it runs best atm. > = > but I know for sure there are plans to > make it distribution agnostic, but > I don't know if this includes a pre-created > iso for ovirt-node based on debian or gentoo. > = > maybe fabian can shed some light on the > future plans. The current Node can really only be created for Fedora related distrios, so= CentOS, RHEL and Fedora itself. The reason for this is that all parts "the build process" is tailored aroun= d Fedora related tools. Namely kickstarts, and lviecd-tools. We are currently thinking about how we can change Node and make it more fri= endly, the distro agnostic idea also goes into this thoughts - but there is= nothing concrete on that front yet. That's it from the Node side. - fabian > alon can maybe give some insight into > how distribution agnostic ovirt already is > and what future plans are, > thus cc'ing them. > = > -- > Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen / Regards > = > Sven Kieske > = > Systemadministrator > Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG > K=C3=B6nigsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 6 > 32339 Espelkamp > T: +49-5772-293-100 > F: +49-5772-293-333 > https://www.mittwald.de > Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Robert Meyer > St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen > Komplement=C3=A4rin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oey= nhausen --===============6607992482174456182==-- From ovirt at bercot.org Thu Aug 7 10:44:52 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1479031942382152248==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David BERCOT To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 16:44:50 +0200 Message-ID: <20140807164450.25ae4261@debian-david> In-Reply-To: 1784993973.15428298.1407421760306.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com --===============1479031942382152248== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:29:20 -0400 (EDT), Fabian Deutsch a =C3=A9crit : >----- Original Message ----- >> Am 07.08.2014 15:10, schrieb David BERCOT: >> > Ah, great !!! And is there a Debian flavor ? > >No. Currently not. >But Node became more stable over the last months, and you might want >to try this snapshot build: >http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-3.5-pre/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ovir= t35.20140805.0.el6.iso > >> > It is my favorite distribution ;-) >> = >> Not yet, and I don't know if it is on the roadmap. >> you could maybe create your own, it's basically >> this workflow: >> install $distro >> throw out all unneeded stuff >> install virt stuff (libvirt+vdsm) >> apply hardening (selinux etc) >> create iso >> = >> I go with centos minimal and customize >> that myself, works really well. >> = >> I don't know if vdsm is already complete >> platform independent (afaik it should be). >> = >> the initial development was all on fedora >> and el6, so this is where it runs best atm. >> = >> but I know for sure there are plans to >> make it distribution agnostic, but >> I don't know if this includes a pre-created >> iso for ovirt-node based on debian or gentoo. >> = >> maybe fabian can shed some light on the >> future plans. > >The current Node can really only be created for Fedora related >distrios, so CentOS, RHEL and Fedora itself. The reason for this is >that all parts "the build process" is tailored around Fedora related >tools. Namely kickstarts, and lviecd-tools. > >We are currently thinking about how we can change Node and make it >more friendly, the distro agnostic idea also goes into this thoughts - >but there is nothing concrete on that front yet. > >That's it from the Node side. > >- fabian Thank you for all these answers. I'm going to test this soon and I'll tell you about the results... David. --===============1479031942382152248==-- From prmarino1 at gmail.com Thu Aug 7 13:12:12 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2503804759856749641==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Robert Marino To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:12:11 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 20140807164450.25ae4261@debian-david --===============2503804759856749641== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By the way David have you ever done a Red Hat kickstart with the nobase opt= ion. You get an OS install thats as stripped down as possible. you can even create a node for ovirt which is smaller than the ESXi install base last I checked. just be aware you will not have many of the tools you would normally expect to see for example bind-utils isn't installed so the box wont have nslookup or dig unless you install it. On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, David BERCOT wrote: > Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:29:20 -0400 (EDT), > Fabian Deutsch a =C3=A9crit : >>----- Original Message ----- >>> Am 07.08.2014 15:10, schrieb David BERCOT: >>> > Ah, great !!! And is there a Debian flavor ? >> >>No. Currently not. >>But Node became more stable over the last months, and you might want >>to try this snapshot build: >>http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-3.5-pre/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ovi= rt35.20140805.0.el6.iso >> >>> > It is my favorite distribution ;-) >>> >>> Not yet, and I don't know if it is on the roadmap. >>> you could maybe create your own, it's basically >>> this workflow: >>> install $distro >>> throw out all unneeded stuff >>> install virt stuff (libvirt+vdsm) >>> apply hardening (selinux etc) >>> create iso >>> >>> I go with centos minimal and customize >>> that myself, works really well. >>> >>> I don't know if vdsm is already complete >>> platform independent (afaik it should be). >>> >>> the initial development was all on fedora >>> and el6, so this is where it runs best atm. >>> >>> but I know for sure there are plans to >>> make it distribution agnostic, but >>> I don't know if this includes a pre-created >>> iso for ovirt-node based on debian or gentoo. >>> >>> maybe fabian can shed some light on the >>> future plans. >> >>The current Node can really only be created for Fedora related >>distrios, so CentOS, RHEL and Fedora itself. The reason for this is >>that all parts "the build process" is tailored around Fedora related >>tools. Namely kickstarts, and lviecd-tools. >> >>We are currently thinking about how we can change Node and make it >>more friendly, the distro agnostic idea also goes into this thoughts - >>but there is nothing concrete on that front yet. >> >>That's it from the Node side. >> >>- fabian > > Thank you for all these answers. > > I'm going to test this soon and I'll tell you about the results... > > David. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --===============2503804759856749641==-- From daniel.helgenberger at m-box.de Fri Aug 8 07:04:08 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5688473250032051342==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Daniel Helgenberger To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 11:03:59 +0000 Message-ID: <1407495842.28787.4.camel@helgebook3.mbox.loc> In-Reply-To: 20140807145402.73bd87f1@debian-david --===============5688473250032051342== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --=3D-pp1MDZ8qgTx8UvYv87PC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello David, On Do, 2014-08-07 at 14:54 +0200, David BERCOT wrote: > Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:16:34 +0000, > Sven Kieske a =3DC3=3DA9crit : > >FYI: > > > >actually the vmware kernel leverages many open source drivers > >from the linux kernel and I highly suspect that it is in fact > >a custom linux kernel. > > > >some evidence that supports this view is the recent > >attempt of vmware to join the linux-distros mailinglist > >to get early access to vulnerabilities in open source code. > > > >you can just join this list if you offer a kind of "linux" distribution > >(or something very close to it). > > > >here is a thread for further reading on the case: > >http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q2/403 > > > >PS: regarding ovirt-node: > >it's actually a very trimmed down linux system, just enough > >to act as an hypervisor, so it's bare metal virtualization > >(I would even argue that there is no such thing as a type 1 > >hypervisor, because if you talk about type 1 hypervisors > >the hypervisor itself is the operating system kernel, which is also > >the case for kvm, as it is a linux kernel module). >=3D20 > If I understand well, oVirt-node is very very close to ESXi (which is > good news ;-)). > But to have such a "bare metal virtualization", we have not to install > a "complete" OS (like RH, Fedora, Debian, etc...) and then to add > oVirt-node packages ??? It should be a very light kernel with only > oVirt-node (KVM ?) modules/packages, no ? First, I second Sven's view, there is no such thing like a type 1 HV (so 'hardware' only). I used oVirt node 3.4 and it works really well and sable. If you compare it with ESXi, you will feel it is very similar (even the screen telling you system basics if you attach a monitor to it). ovirt node was developed later on, to you basically have two options: - The 'classic' option: install a basic os (centos6 minimal or fedora 19 minimal) and install the ovirt packages via yum, then run ovit node setup; done. - run ovirt node iso, install it to disk. This leaves you with a system wich has to be managed from ovirt engine, because all changes you make manually do not survive a reboot (normally). While I think using ovirt node is the best option for deploying HV-nodes there is one major drawback: It does not support hosted-engine-ha atm; but I think this feature will make it into ovirt node 3.5. > There is only this part I do not understand !?!? So bottom line, ovirt node is the same as option 1; but more tailored to complete management from ovirt enginge. >=3D20 > Thank you. >=3D20 > David. > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users --=3D20 Daniel Helgenberger=3D20 m box bewegtbild GmbH=3D20 P: +49/30/2408781-22 F: +49/30/2408781-10 ACKERSTR. 19=3D20 D-10115 BERLIN=3D20 www.m-box.de www.monkeymen.tv=3D20 Gesch=3DC3=3DA4ftsf=3DC3=3DBChrer: Martin Retschitzegger / Michaela G=3DC3= =3DB6llner Handeslregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg / HRB 112767=3D20 --=3D-pp1MDZ8qgTx8UvYv87PC Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name=3D"smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=3D"smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIINtjCCBBYw ggL+oAMCAQICCwQAAAAAAS9O4S9SMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBBQUAMFcxCzAJBgNVBAYTAkJFMRkwFwYD 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Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 14:44:12 +0300 Message-ID: <53E4B80C.6000402@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 20140807144830.6820988d@debian-david --===============5605463904767646245== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/07/2014 03:48 PM, David BERCOT wrote: > Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:03:15 +0200, > Gianluca Cecchi a =C3=A9crit : >> Il 07/ago/2014 11:44 "David BERCOT" @ >> bercot.org > ha scritto: >> >>> My really question was : is it a good idea to run the oVirt node over >>> another OS ? It would be more performant to run the oVirt node >>> directly over the hardware, like ESXi... >>> May be it is in the roadmap ? >> >> VMware says esxi is a bare-metal hypervisor and there is not an >> underlying os. Someone else says it is based on vmkernel operating >> system ( where vmkernel is defined as a posix-like operating system). >> In my opinion the oVirt node is to be intended something like ESXi: an >> os with the smallest possible footprint, dedicated to run as a KVM >> hypervisor. The difference being that it is based on Linux and not >> developed from scratch. > > It is OK for me to have an oVirt node similar to ESXi, except that it > is based on Linux. > But on the oVirt site, I've found oVirt node packages to install over > RH, Fedora, Debian, CentOS, etc... > Is there a "dedicated" oVirt-node ISO, based on the Linux kernel, but > optimized for KVM, without other kernel modules we can see on RH, > Fedora, Debian, CentOS, etc... ? > oVirt-node is not installed "on an OS", its an image you install on bare = metal. ovirt node is a trimmed down .el6 with the necessary packages to = be managed by ovirt. you can choose to use normal .el6/fedora, and use them as hosts via the = engine gui, it will deploy/configure these packages as well. --===============5605463904767646245==-- From ovirt at bercot.org Tue Aug 12 05:42:36 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1759625979502389994==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: David BERCOT To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:42:34 +0200 Message-ID: <20140812114234.7ad3709c@debian-david> In-Reply-To: CAPJdpdA-7RDikFp=FOe55a54BMMjPOtxGz7EBev5NzKGdEkTqw@mail.gmail.com --===============1759625979502389994== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, If I understand well, the ISO node is the best solution to have the "smallest" OS, but maybe I will have problems with some functions, like SSH keys, integration with Centreon, etc... Daniel Helgenberger said : "all changes you make manually do not survive a reboot". So, the best option is to install a basic OS (for me, a Debian one), and then, to add oVirt-node packages... Now, let's go ;-) Thank you. David. Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:12:11 -0400, Paul Robert Marino a =C3=A9crit : >By the way David have you ever done a Red Hat kickstart with the >nobase option. You get an OS install thats as stripped down as >possible. you can even create a node for ovirt which is smaller than >the ESXi install base last I checked. just be aware you will not have >many of the tools you would normally expect to see for example >bind-utils isn't installed so the box wont have nslookup or dig unless >you install it. > >On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:44 AM, David BERCOT wrote: >> Le Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:29:20 -0400 (EDT), >> Fabian Deutsch a =C3=A9crit : >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>> Am 07.08.2014 15:10, schrieb David BERCOT: >>>> > Ah, great !!! And is there a Debian flavor ? >>> >>>No. Currently not. >>>But Node became more stable over the last months, and you might want >>>to try this snapshot build: >>>http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-3.5-pre/iso/ovirt-node-iso-3.5.0.ov= irt35.20140805.0.el6.iso >>> >>>> > It is my favorite distribution ;-) >>>> >>>> Not yet, and I don't know if it is on the roadmap. >>>> you could maybe create your own, it's basically >>>> this workflow: >>>> install $distro >>>> throw out all unneeded stuff >>>> install virt stuff (libvirt+vdsm) >>>> apply hardening (selinux etc) >>>> create iso >>>> >>>> I go with centos minimal and customize >>>> that myself, works really well. >>>> >>>> I don't know if vdsm is already complete >>>> platform independent (afaik it should be). >>>> >>>> the initial development was all on fedora >>>> and el6, so this is where it runs best atm. >>>> >>>> but I know for sure there are plans to >>>> make it distribution agnostic, but >>>> I don't know if this includes a pre-created >>>> iso for ovirt-node based on debian or gentoo. >>>> >>>> maybe fabian can shed some light on the >>>> future plans. >>> >>>The current Node can really only be created for Fedora related >>>distrios, so CentOS, RHEL and Fedora itself. The reason for this is >>>that all parts "the build process" is tailored around Fedora related >>>tools. Namely kickstarts, and lviecd-tools. >>> >>>We are currently thinking about how we can change Node and make it >>>more friendly, the distro agnostic idea also goes into this thoughts >>>- but there is nothing concrete on that front yet. >>> >>>That's it from the Node side. >>> >>>- fabian >> >> Thank you for all these answers. >> >> I'm going to test this soon and I'll tell you about the results... >> >> David. >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/user --===============1759625979502389994==-- From nicolas at ecarnot.net Tue Aug 12 06:33:22 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3444832037800775119==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Nicolas Ecarnot To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 12:33:19 +0200 Message-ID: <53E9ED6F.9070601@ecarnot.net> In-Reply-To: 20140812114234.7ad3709c@debian-david --===============3444832037800775119== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 12/08/2014 11:42, David BERCOT a =C3=A9crit : > Hello, > > If I understand well, the ISO node is the best solution to have the > "smallest" OS, but maybe I will have problems with some functions, like > SSH keys, integration with Centreon, etc... Daniel Helgenberger said : > "all changes you make manually do not survive a reboot". > > So, the best option is to install a basic OS (for me, a Debian one), > and then, to add oVirt-node packages... oVirt is not distro-agnostic at all. It is very specificaly designed in the redhat universe (-> rhel, centos, = fedora). Love yourself, try it on CentOS. -- = Nicolas Ecarnot --===============3444832037800775119==-- From iheim at redhat.com Tue Aug 12 09:39:10 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8382216404249107210==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] New member and first question... Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:39:02 +0300 Message-ID: <53EA18F6.7080007@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 53E9ED6F.9070601@ecarnot.net --===============8382216404249107210== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/12/2014 01:33 PM, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote: > Le 12/08/2014 11:42, David BERCOT a =C3=A9crit : >> Hello, >> >> If I understand well, the ISO node is the best solution to have the >> "smallest" OS, but maybe I will have problems with some functions, like >> SSH keys, integration with Centreon, etc... Daniel Helgenberger said : >> "all changes you make manually do not survive a reboot". >> >> So, the best option is to install a basic OS (for me, a Debian one), >> and then, to add oVirt-node packages... > > oVirt is not distro-agnostic at all. > It is very specificaly designed in the redhat universe (-> rhel, centos, > fedora). > Love yourself, try it on CentOS. > though if you can help make it better on debian, we'd welcome the help. --===============8382216404249107210==--