From giuseppe.ragusa at hotmail.com Wed Mar 26 04:50:54 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5602621170795594996==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Giuseppe Ragusa To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] Otopi pre-seeded answers and firewall settings Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:50:52 +0100 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 53328E98.6080308@mittwald.de --===============5602621170795594996== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --_5492ebdc-220c-48f9-9996-2814b634a5df_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > From: S.Kieske(a)mittwald.de > To: users(a)ovirt.org > Date: Wed=3D2C 26 Mar 2014 08:23:05 +0000 > Subject: Re: [Users] Otopi pre-seeded answers and firewall settings >=3D20 > I really don't get why many people always ask others to open > BZ=3D2C if you could just do it yourself. >=3D20 > It doesn't take much time=3D2C less than writing a > Mail to explain to someone to report a BZ. I suppose that proper bug tracking management should in general keep involv= =3D ed the "real stakeholders"=3D2C ie the users that have experienced the prob= le=3D ms "first hand"=3D2C so that any further action can keep them in the feedba= ck=3D loop with real use cases=3D2C reminders to developers etc. and this seems = pa=3D rticularly appropriate for open source projects with developers that devote= =3D voluntary work (Sven: try not to think of all those nice @redhat.com addre= =3D sses and RHEV references =3D3B> ) On the other hand I also understand that this is a particularly straightfor= =3D ward RFE with no (apparent) need for logs=3D2C traces etc. but the establis= he=3D d workflow always wins :) and proves real user request to managers :)) > So here it is: >=3D20 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3D1080823 Many thanks Sven (I actually have a bad track record as a Bugzilla reporter= =3D ... almost always dismissed =3D3B> ) Regards=3D2C Giuseppe > Am 26.03.2014 08:51=3D2C schrieb Yedidyah Bar David: > > You can open a bug if you want=3D2C to make this configurable.=3D20 >=3D20 > --=3D20 > Mit freundlichen Gr=3DFC=3DDFen / Regards >=3D20 > Sven Kieske >=3D20 > Systemadministrator > Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG > K=3DF6nigsberger Stra=3DDFe 6 > 32339 Espelkamp > T: +49-5772-293-100 > F: +49-5772-293-333 > https://www.mittwald.de > Gesch=3DE4ftsf=3DFChrer: Robert Meyer > St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033=3D2C USt-IdNr.: DE814773217=3D2C HRA 6640=3D2C AG B= ad Oey=3D nhausen > Komplement=3DE4rin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH=3D2C HRB 13260=3D2C AG = Bad Oe=3D ynhausen > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users =3D --_5492ebdc-220c-48f9-9996-2814b634a5df_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=3D3B From: S.Kieske(a)mi= ttwald.d=3D e
>=3D3B To: users(a)ovirt.org
>=3D3B Date: Wed=3D2C 26 Mar = 2014 08:=3D 23:05 +0000
>=3D3B Subject: Re: [Users] Otopi pre-seeded answers and f= ir=3D ewall settings
>=3D3B
>=3D3B I really don't get why many people = alwa=3D ys ask others to open
>=3D3B BZ=3D2C if you could just do it yourself.=
=3D >=3D3B
>=3D3B It doesn't take much time=3D2C less than writing a>=3D =3D3B Mail to explain to someone to report a BZ.

I suppose that prop= er=3D bug tracking management should in general keep involved the "real stakehol= =3D ders"=3D2C ie the users that have experienced the problems "first hand"=3D2= C so=3D that any further action can keep them in the feedback loop with real use c= =3D ases=3D2C reminders to developers etc. and this seems particularly appropri= at=3D e for open source projects with developers that devote voluntary work (Sven= =3D : try not to think of all those nice @redhat.com addresses and RHEV referen= =3D ces =3D3B>=3D3B )

On the other hand I also understand that this is= a p=3D articularly straightforward RFE with no (apparent) need for logs=3D2C trace= s =3D etc. but the established workflow always wins :) and proves real user reque= =3D st to managers :))

>=3D3B So here it is:
>=3D3B
>=3D3B = https:=3D //bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3D3D1080823

Many thanks Sven (= I =3D actually have a bad track record as a Bugzilla reporter... almost always di= =3D smissed =3D3B>=3D3B )

Regards=3D2C
Giuseppe

>=3D3B Am = 26.03.20=3D 14 08:51=3D2C schrieb Yedidyah Bar David:
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