From mjames at media-node.com Tue Apr 15 14:24:03 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5219580452464288908==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Maurice James To: users at ovirt.org Subject: [ovirt-users] HA question Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 14:23:57 -0400 Message-ID: <818653230.870.1397586237057.JavaMail.zimbra@media-node.com> In-Reply-To: 27550068.858.1397586126142.JavaMail.zimbra@media-node.com --===============5219580452464288908== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_869_900338456.1397586237056 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function? = ------=3D_Part_869_900338456.1397586237056 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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I guess, If you just have two host in your cluster, one of them fail, No HA. 2014-04-16 2:23 GMT+08:00 Maurice James : > If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function? > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > -- = =E7=8B=AC=E7=AB=8B=E4=B9=8B=E6=80=9D=E6=83=B3=EF=BC=8C=E8=87=AA=E7=94=B1=E4= =B9=8B=E7=B2=BE=E7=A5=9E=E3=80=82 --=E9=99=88=E5=AF=85=E6=81=AA --===============5236362445040703014== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+SGnvvJo8ZGl2PsKgIMKgSmFtZXPvvIw8L2Rpdj48ZGl2PsKgIMKgUGxl YXNlIGRlc2NyaWJlIHlvdXIgZW52aXJvbm1lbnQuwqA8L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2 PsKgIEkgZ3Vlc3MsIElmIHlvdSBqdXN0IGhhdmUgdHdvIGhvc3QgaW4geW91ciBjbHVzdGVyLCBv bmUgb2YgdGhlbSBmYWlsLCBObyBIQS48L2Rpdj48ZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj48ZGl2PsKgwqA8L2Rp dj48L2Rpdj4KPGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iZ21haWxfZXh0cmEiPjxicj48YnI+PGRpdiBjbGFzcz0iZ21h aWxfcXVvdGUiPjIwMTQtMDQtMTYgMjoyMyBHTVQrMDg6MDAgTWF1cmljZSBKYW1lcyA8c3BhbiBk aXI9Imx0ciI+Jmx0OzxhIGhyZWY9Im1haWx0bzptamFtZXNAbWVkaWEtbm9kZS5jb20iIHRhcmdl dD0iX2JsYW5rIj5tamFtZXNAbWVkaWEtbm9kZS5jb208L2E+Jmd0Ozwvc3Bhbj46PGJyPjxibG9j a3F1b3RlIGNsYXNzPSJnbWFpbF9xdW90ZSIgc3R5bGU9Im1hcmdpbjowIDAgMCAuOGV4O2JvcmRl ci1sZWZ0OjFweCAjY2NjIHNvbGlkO3BhZGRpbmctbGVmdDoxZXgiPgo8ZGl2PjxkaXYgc3R5bGU9 ImZvbnQtc2l6ZToxMnB0O2ZvbnQtZmFtaWx5OnRpbWVzIG5ldyByb21hbixuZXcgeW9yayx0aW1l cyxzZXJpZiI+PGRpdj5JZiBJIGxvc2UgdGhlIGhvc3Qgd2l0aCB0aGUgZW5naW5lIG1hbmFnZXIs IHdpbGwgSEEgc3RpbGwgZnVuY3Rpb24/PGJyPjwvZGl2PjwvZGl2PjwvZGl2Pjxicj5fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXzxicj4KClVzZXJzIG1haWxp bmcgbGlzdDxicj4KPGEgaHJlZj0ibWFpbHRvOlVzZXJzQG92aXJ0Lm9yZyI+VXNlcnNAb3ZpcnQu b3JnPC9hPjxicj4KPGEgaHJlZj0iaHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLm92aXJ0Lm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2xpc3Rp bmZvL3VzZXJzIiB0YXJnZXQ9Il9ibGFuayI+aHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLm92aXJ0Lm9yZy9tYWlsbWFu L2xpc3RpbmZvL3VzZXJzPC9hPjxicj4KPGJyPjwvYmxvY2txdW90ZT48L2Rpdj48YnI+PGJyIGNs ZWFyPSJhbGwiPjxkaXY+PGJyPjwvZGl2Pi0tIDxicj7ni6znq4vkuYvmgJ3mg7PvvIzoh6rnlLHk uYvnsr7npZ7jgII8YnI+wqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgLS3pmYjl r4XmgaoKPC9kaXY+Cg== --===============5236362445040703014==-- From mjames at media-node.com Tue Apr 15 22:07:14 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1003541082432302601==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Maurice James To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: HA question Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 22:06:59 -0400 Message-ID: <909349529.55.1397614019294.JavaMail.zimbra@media-node.com> In-Reply-To: CANNDdqOK8kbUpF4UrWadLykOfRfz32rZvJmqcxFX-i4qvxQ_Ew@mail.gmail.com --===============1003541082432302601== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=3D_Part_54_1012912014.1397614019292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 3 Node system consists of 2 host nodes and 1 manager node. If the manager g= =3D oes offline, will VMs marked as HA still be highly available if there is no= =3D manager?=3D20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "=3DE9=3D80=3D82=3DE5=3D85=3D95" =3D20 To: "Maurice James" =3D20 Cc: users(a)ovirt.org=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:28:06 PM=3D20 Subject: ***UNCHECKED*** Re: [ovirt-users] HA question=3D20 Hi=3DEF=3DBC=3D9A=3D20 James=3DEF=3DBC=3D8C=3D20 Please describe your environment.=3D20 I guess, If you just have two host in your cluster, one of them fail, No HA= =3D .=3D20 2014-04-16 2:23 GMT+08:00 Maurice James < mjames(a)media-node.com > :=3D20 If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function?=3D20 _______________________________________________=3D20 Users mailing list=3D20 Users(a)ovirt.org=3D20 http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users=3D20 --=3D20 =3DE7=3D8B=3DAC=3DE7=3DAB=3D8B=3DE4=3DB9=3D8B=3DE6=3D80=3D9D=3DE6=3D83=3DB3= =3DEF=3DBC=3D8C=3DE8=3D87=3DAA=3DE7=3D94=3DB1=3DE4=3D =3DB9=3D8B=3DE7=3DB2=3DBE=3DE7=3DA5=3D9E=3DE3=3D80=3D82=3D20 --=3DE9=3D99=3D88=3DE5=3DAF=3D85=3DE6=3D81=3DAA=3D20 ------=3D_Part_54_1012912014.1397614019292 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

3 Node system con= =3D sists of 2 host nodes and 1 manager node. If the manager goes offline, will= =3D VMs marked as HA still be highly available if there is no manager?




From: "=3DE9=3D= 80=3D =3D82=3DE5=3D85=3D95" <lijiangsheng1(a)gmail.com>
To: "Maur= ice James"=3D <mjames(a)media-node.com>
Cc: users(a)ovirt.org
Sent= : Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:28:06 PM
Subject: ***UNCHECKED*** Re:= =3D [ovirt-users] HA question

Hi=3DEF=3DB= C=3D9A   James=3DEF=3DBC=3D8C
   Please describe= your =3D environment. 

  I guess, If you just hav= =3D e two host in your cluster, one of them fail, No HA.

  


= 2014-04-16 2:23 GMT+08:00 Maurice James <mjames(a)media-node.com= >:
<=3D div>If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function?
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=?utf-8?q?=E9=80=82=E5=85=95_=3Clijiangsheng1_at_gmail=2Ecom=3E?= To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: HA question Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:16:35 +0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 909349529.55.1397614019294.JavaMail.zimbra@media-node.com --===============2228695069569168888== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi=EF=BC=9A As I know, oVirt-engine is a Center control System. and node is stateless read only system. So answer is if manager was failure, No HA ,even the node don't know each other. 2014-04-16 10:06 GMT+08:00 Maurice James : > > 3 Node system consists of 2 host nodes and 1 manager node. If the manager > goes offline, will VMs marked as HA still be highly available if there is > no manager? > > > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"=E9=80=82=E5=85=95" > *To: *"Maurice James" > *Cc: *users(a)ovirt.org > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:28:06 PM > *Subject: ****UNCHECKED*** Re: [ovirt-users] HA question > > Hi=EF=BC=9A > James=EF=BC=8C > Please describe your environment. > > I guess, If you just have two host in your cluster, one of them fail, No > HA. > > > > > 2014-04-16 2:23 GMT+08:00 Maurice James : > >> If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Users mailing list >> Users(a)ovirt.org >> http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> > > > -- > =E7=8B=AC=E7=AB=8B=E4=B9=8B=E6=80=9D=E6=83=B3=EF=BC=8C=E8=87=AA=E7=94=B1= =E4=B9=8B=E7=B2=BE=E7=A5=9E=E3=80=82 > --=E9=99=88=E5=AF=85=E6=81=AA > > -- = =E7=8B=AC=E7=AB=8B=E4=B9=8B=E6=80=9D=E6=83=B3=EF=BC=8C=E8=87=AA=E7=94=B1=E4= =B9=8B=E7=B2=BE=E7=A5=9E=E3=80=82 --=E9=99=88=E5=AF=85=E6=81=AA --===============2228695069569168888== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; 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boundary="===============8053377962057675031==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dafna Ron To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] HA question Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 09:58:00 +0100 Message-ID: <534E4618.5070806@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 818653230.870.1397586237057.JavaMail.zimbra@media-node.com --===============8053377962057675031== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you need to be more clear on your question it seems very general :) do you mean, if the engine is down will power management still work? If so, than the answer is no and with good reason... (lots of them = actually). starting from the simplest - if the host reboots and the engine is down, = most users will not know how to restart the vms without the engine. even if you do know how to start the vm's without the engine, once you = restore the engine, there is a chance of split brain. Dafna On 04/15/2014 07:23 PM, Maurice James wrote: > If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function? > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- = Dafna Ron --===============8053377962057675031==-- From dron at redhat.com Wed Apr 16 05:02:27 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3399487614885866837==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dafna Ron To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: HA question Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:02:18 +0100 Message-ID: <534E471A.6090201@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 909349529.55.1397614019294.JavaMail.zimbra@media-node.com --===============3399487614885866837== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the answer is no. HA vm's are re-run by the engine in case of a failure so in case the = engine is down no actions will be done on vms. On 04/16/2014 03:06 AM, Maurice James wrote: > > 3 Node system consists of 2 host nodes and 1 manager node. If the = > manager goes offline, will VMs marked as HA still be highly available = > if there is no manager? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"=E9=80=82 =E5=85=95" > *To: *"Maurice James" > *Cc: *users(a)ovirt.org > *Sent: *Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:28:06 PM > *Subject: ****UNCHECKED*** Re: [ovirt-users] HA question > > Hi=EF=BC=9A > James=EF=BC=8C > Please describe your environment. > > I guess, If you just have two host in your cluster, one of them = > fail, No HA. > > > > 2014-04-16 2:23 GMT+08:00 Maurice James >: > > If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function? > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > -- = > =E7=8B=AC=E7=AB=8B=E4=B9=8B=E6=80=9D=E6=83=B3=EF=BC=8C=E8=87=AA=E7=94=B1= =E4=B9=8B=E7=B2=BE=E7=A5=9E=E3=80=82 > --=E9=99=88=E5=AF=85=E6=81=AA > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- = Dafna Ron --===============3399487614885866837==-- From emesika at redhat.com Wed Apr 16 18:13:20 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4090585193425320088==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Eli Mesika To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] HA question Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: <756530057.5437453.1397686399562.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 534E4618.5070806@redhat.com --===============4090585193425320088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dafna Ron" > To: users(a)ovirt.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:58:00 AM > Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] HA question > = > you need to be more clear on your question it seems very general :) > = > do you mean, if the engine is down will power management still work? > If so, than the answer is no and with good reason... (lots of them > actually). > starting from the simplest - if the host reboots and the engine is down, > most users will not know how to restart the vms without the engine. > even if you do know how to start the vm's without the engine, once you > restore the engine, there is a chance of split brain. two comments here 1) If engine is restored and hosts are still non responding hosts will be s= oft fenced and if that fails if PM is configured then engine will still try= to restart the hosts = 2) We have an issue in hosted engine when the restart command can leave the= Host in DOWN state = > = > Dafna > = > On 04/15/2014 07:23 PM, Maurice James wrote: > > If I lose the host with the engine manager, will HA still function? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > = > = > -- > Dafna Ron > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============4090585193425320088==--