From budic at onholyground.com Sun Feb 26 19:40:03 2017 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2825127030208580409==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Darrell Budic To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] upgrading from 3.6 -> 4.1, vm restarts at 4.0 mandatory? Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2017 13:39:59 -0600 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: CAF_B0vHsPCP=esc-DLWNeGeGQEtbkij526OBww9ogNjV6zM5RQ@mail.gmail.com --===============2825127030208580409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --Apple-Mail=3D_84359FA6-819A-4AC9-8067-09D38A434D8C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Not really, not when upgrading to 4.0 at any rate. Take chapter 4 in =3D that guide: =3D http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/upgrade-guide/chap-Post-Upgrade_Tasks/ = =3D When you perform these steps, you are advised that you now need to =3D restart the VMs to enable the new 4.0 compatible configurations. As there is no 4.1 upgrade guide, I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m left to interpret Chapt= er =3D 1 to imply that you need to be at 4.0 to go to 4.1. But does that mean =3D just having the Cluster and DC levels at 4.0, or also having your VMs =3D running at 4.0? This wasn=3DE2=3D80=3D99t applicable to 3.6, so there=3DE2= =3D80=3D99s =3D no parallel here. Basically, I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m concerned that a similar =3D procedure for setting Cluster & DC compatibility to 4.1 will not =3D properly handle VMs still running with 3.6 configs, and hoping someone =3D has concrete knowledge of this step that can chime in. FYI, the breadcrumbs on the web site don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t actually work, the= y =3D give you a page with the right number of list items for what you=3DE2=3D80= =3D99r=3D e reading, but no actual links to the chapters (the href is present, but = =3D no link text exists). -Darrell > On Feb 26, 2017, at 1:10 AM, Fred Rolland wrote: >=3D20 > Hi, >=3D20 > Restart the VMs is not part of the upgrade procedure. > You can check the upgrade guide : > =3D http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/upgrade-guide/chap-Updating_the_oVirt_E= =3D nvironment/ =3D >=3D20 > Regards, > Fred >=3D20 > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Darrell Budic =3D > wrote: > I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m upgrading my main cluster from 3.6 to 4.1, and I=3DE2= =3D80=3D99m =3D currently at 4.0. I=3DE2=3D80=3D99ve upgraded the cluster and datacenter = =3D compatibility versions to 4.0, and now all my VMs are pending restart to = =3D update their configs to 4.0. >=3D20 > My question is =3DE2=3D80=3D9CDo I need to do this here, or can I go ahea= d =3D and update the engine and host nodes to 4.1, update compatibility to =3D 4.1, and then restart all the VMs to get them on 4.1=3DE2=3D80=3D9D? Or is = =3D that unsafe, will I screw them up if I go to 4.1 compatibility in this =3D state? >=3D20 > Thanks, >=3D20 > -Darrell >=3D20 > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users =3D >=3D20 --Apple-Mail=3D_84359FA6-819A-4AC9-8067-09D38A434D8C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Not really, not when upgrading to 4.0 at any rate. Take =3D chapter 4 in that guide:

http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/upgrade-guide/chap-Post-Upg= r=3D ade_Tasks/

When you perform these steps, you are advised that you now =3D need to restart the VMs to enable the new 4.0 compatible =3D configurations.

As there is no 4.1 upgrade guide, I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m left to = =3D interpret Chapter 1 to imply that you need to be at 4.0 to go to 4.1. =3D But does that mean just having the Cluster and DC levels at 4.0, or also = =3D having your VMs running at 4.0? This wasn=3DE2=3D80=3D99t applicable to 3.6= , =3D so there=3DE2=3D80=3D99s no parallel here. Basically, I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m con= cerned =3D that a similar procedure for setting Cluster & DC compatibility to =3D 4.1 will not properly handle VMs still running with 3.6 configs, and =3D hoping someone has concrete knowledge of this step that can chime in.

FYI, the breadcrumbs on the web site don=3DE2=3D80=3D99t actua= lly =3D work, they give you a page with the right number of list items for what =3D you=3DE2=3D80=3D99re reading, but no actual links to the chapters (the href= is =3D present, but no link text exists).

  -Darrell

On =3D Feb 26, 2017, at 1:10 AM, Fred Rolland <frolland(a)redhat.com<= /a>>=3D wrote:

Hi,

Restart the VMs is not part of the upgrade procedure.
You can check the upgrade guide :
http://www.ovirt.org/documentation/upgrade-guide/chap-Updating= _=3D the_oVirt_Environment/

Regards,
Fred

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Darrell Budic =3D <budic(a)onholyground.com> = =3D wrote:
I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m =3D upgrading my main cluster from 3.6 to 4.1, and I=3DE2=3D80=3D99m currently = at =3D 4.0. I=3DE2=3D80=3D99ve upgraded the cluster and datacenter compatibility = =3D versions to 4.0, and now all my VMs are pending restart to update their =3D configs to 4.0.

My question is =3DE2=3D80=3D9CDo I need to do this here, or can I go ahead = and =3D update the engine and host nodes to 4.1, update compatibility to 4.1, =3D and then restart all the VMs to get them on 4.1=3DE2=3D80=3D9D? Or is that = =3D unsafe, will I screw them up if I go to 4.1 compatibility in this =3D state?

Thanks,

  -Darrell

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