From vlaero at yahoo.com.au Mon Mar 31 03:17:43 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2017354001254544978==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Jansen To: users at ovirt.org Subject: [Users] live storage migration - when is this being targeted? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 00:17:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1396250262.21835.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> --===============2017354001254544978== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --708812334-518474266-1396250262=3D:21835 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor part ba= s=3D ed on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older qemu-kvm packa= =3D ge.=3D0AI assume this is a related bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bu= g.=3D cgi?id=3D3D1009100=3D0AFrom what I can infer from this there is a related i= ssue=3D with vdsm that needs handling as well?=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AFrom a feature parity= persp=3D ective against Vmware Vcenter (Enterprise plus) this is a very important fe= =3D ature.=3D0AI can think of a number of Vmware shops that wouldn't look an a = co=3D mpeting hypervisor management platform without this feature working.=3DA0 I= t=3D hink this would be a key milestone for ovirt to get to.=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AIs th= is som=3D ething that is likely to be worked out for the 3.4.1 timeframe or is it now= =3D a 3.5 issue?=3D0A=3D0AThanks.=3D0A --708812334-518474266-1396250262=3D:21835 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a leas= =3D t the hypervisor part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due t= =3D o an older qemu-kvm package.
I assume this is a related bug? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_= =3D bug.cgi?id=3D3D1009100
From= =3D what I can infer from this there is a related issue with vdsm that needs h= =3D andling as well?

From a feature parity= =3D perspective against Vmware Vcenter (Enterprise plus) this is a very import= =3D ant feature.
I can think = =3D of a number of Vmware shops that wouldn't look an a competing hypervisor ma= =3D nagement platform without this feature working.  I think this would be= =3D a key milestone for ovirt to get to.

Is= =3D this something that is likely to be worked out for the 3.4.1 timeframe or = =3D is it now a 3.5 issue?

Thanks.
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Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 13:11:35 -0300 Message-ID: <533993B7.6000002@uncu.edu.ar> In-Reply-To: 1396250262.21835.YahooMailNeo@web120604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com --===============7582175081295314700== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050008010704080501000707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 31/03/14 04:17, Paul Jansen wrote: > From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor = > part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older = > qemu-kvm package. AFAIK isn't a old qemu-kvm package but a exclusive rhev package with the = live storage migration flags activated in the rpm build spec. I could activate live storage migration in 3.4 using the packages of = this 3rd party repo: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/Packages/ I manually installed (rpm -i) qemu-img-rhev and qemu-kvm-rhev in each = node. I didn't need to update vdsm. Yes I know that is not the most elegant and professional way, but I need = live storage migration. My nodes run Centos 6.5 and vdsm 4.13.3 I don't know why downstream includes this feature while upstream still = don't have this. Sounds as political and commercial reasons from RH. --------------050008010704080501000707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
On 31/03/14 04:17, Paul Jansen wrote:
From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older qemu-kvm package.

AFAIK isn't a old qemu-kvm package but a exclusive rhev package with the live storage migration flags activated in the rpm build spec.

I could activate live storage migration in 3.4 using the packages of this 3rd party repo: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/Packa= ges/

I manually installed (rpm -i) qemu-img-rhev and qemu-kvm-rhev in each node. I didn't need to update vdsm.

Yes I know that is not the most elegant and professional way, but I need live storage migration.

My nodes run  Centos 6.5 and vdsm 4.13.3

I don't know why downstream includes this feature while upstream still don't have this. Sounds as political and commercial reasons from RH.
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 18:30:38 +0300 Message-ID: <533ED01E.3060203@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 533993B7.6000002@uncu.edu.ar --===============8847248861339382526== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 03/31/2014 07:11 PM, Federico Alberto Sayd wrote: > On 31/03/14 04:17, Paul Jansen wrote: >> From what I can understand ovirt 3.4.0 - or a least the hypervisor >> part based on el6 - cannot do live storage migration due to an older >> qemu-kvm package. > > AFAIK isn't a old qemu-kvm package but a exclusive rhev package with the > live storage migration flags activated in the rpm build spec. > > I could activate live storage migration in 3.4 using the packages of > this 3rd party repo: http://www.dreyou.org/ovirt/vdsm/Packages/ > > I manually installed (rpm -i) qemu-img-rhev and qemu-kvm-rhev in each > node. I didn't need to update vdsm. > > Yes I know that is not the most elegant and professional way, but I need > live storage migration. > > My nodes run Centos 6.5 and vdsm 4.13.3 > > I don't know why downstream includes this feature while upstream still > don't have this. Sounds as political and commercial reasons from RH. > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > upstream in this case is CentOS, and it provides what RHEL provides, = which is without these features. we are working with CentOS to provide this. until then, we are building it nightly from CentOS sources here: http://jenkins.ovirt.org/view/All/job/qemu-kvm-rhev_create_rpms_el6/lastSuc= cessfulBuild/artifact/rpms/ --===============8847248861339382526==-- From S.Kieske at mittwald.de Sat Apr 5 06:33:40 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6445091701448926817==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sven Kieske To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] live storage migration - when is this being targeted? Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2014 10:32:26 +0000 Message-ID: <533FDBFF.5020608@mittwald.de> In-Reply-To: 533ED01E.3060203@redhat.com --===============6445091701448926817== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry if I have to correct you or I didn't understand you correctly but do you mean RHEL doesn't provide these compiler flag in their qemu-kvm version? Because I think they do: http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHEV/SRPMS/qem= u-kvm-rhev-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.5.src.rpm There is also a BZ somewhere. R P Herrold could say something about this I guess. CC'ing him. Am 04.04.2014 17:30, schrieb Itamar Heim: > upstream in this case is CentOS, and it provides what RHEL provides, > which is without these features. -- = Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG K=C3=B6nigsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplement=C3=A4rin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynh= ausen --===============6445091701448926817==-- From iheim at redhat.com Sat Apr 5 17:15:39 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3841706101336283785==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] live storage migration - when is this being targeted? Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2014 00:15:32 +0300 Message-ID: <53407274.20103@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 533FDBFF.5020608@mittwald.de --===============3841706101336283785== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04/05/2014 01:32 PM, Sven Kieske wrote: > Sorry if I have to correct you or I didn't understand > you correctly but do you mean RHEL doesn't provide > these compiler flag in their qemu-kvm version? > > Because I think they do: > > http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHEV/SRPMS/q= emu-kvm-rhev-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.5.src.rpm > > There is also a BZ somewhere. > > R P Herrold could say something about this I guess. > CC'ing him. RHEL uses: http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/qemu-= kvm-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6.src.rpm > > Am 04.04.2014 17:30, schrieb Itamar Heim: >> upstream in this case is CentOS, and it provides what RHEL provides, >> which is without these features. > --===============3841706101336283785==-- From S.Kieske at mittwald.de Mon Apr 7 04:28:04 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3222526688984923475==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sven Kieske To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] live storage migration - when is this being targeted? Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:26:45 +0000 Message-ID: <5342618D.1070605@mittwald.de> In-Reply-To: 53407274.20103@redhat.com --===============3222526688984923475== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, okay, now I'm totally confused and really don't know where this other package comes from. I was really thinking it was used. Thanks for your correction. Am 05.04.2014 23:15, schrieb Itamar Heim: > = > RHEL uses: > http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/qem= u-kvm-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6.src.rpm > = -- = Mit freundlichen Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fen / Regards Sven Kieske Systemadministrator Mittwald CM Service GmbH & Co. KG K=C3=B6nigsberger Stra=C3=9Fe 6 32339 Espelkamp T: +49-5772-293-100 F: +49-5772-293-333 https://www.mittwald.de Gesch=C3=A4ftsf=C3=BChrer: Robert Meyer St.Nr.: 331/5721/1033, USt-IdNr.: DE814773217, HRA 6640, AG Bad Oeynhausen Komplement=C3=A4rin: Robert Meyer Verwaltungs GmbH, HRB 13260, AG Bad Oeynh= ausen --===============3222526688984923475==-- From gianluca.cecchi at gmail.com Mon Apr 7 04:31:14 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5477249942463416733==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Gianluca Cecchi To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] live storage migration - when is this being targeted? Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 10:31:13 +0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 5342618D.1070605@mittwald.de --===============5477249942463416733== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2014-04-07 10:26 GMT+02:00 Sven Kieske : > Ah, okay, now I'm totally confused > and really don't know where this other > package comes from. > > I was really thinking it was used. > > Thanks for your correction. > > Am 05.04.2014 23:15, schrieb Itamar Heim: >> >> RHEL uses: >> http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/qe= mu-kvm-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6.src.rpm >> http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/RHEV/SRPMS/qem= u-kvm-rhev-0.12.1.2-2.415.el6_5.5.src.rpm is the source rpm for the binary used in RHEV commercial product --===============5477249942463416733==--