From jplorier at gmail.com Thu Jan 16 13:50:45 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0510442748896383459==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Juan Pablo Lorier To: users at ovirt.org Subject: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:50:40 -0200 Message-ID: <52D82A00.1020209@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: mailman.3.1389891602.2696.users@ovirt.org --===============0510442748896383459== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi William, You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface, ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the list:-) ). Regards, --===============0510442748896383459==-- From potatok at yahoo.com Fri Jan 17 13:15:52 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1775238295833436088==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: William Kwan To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:15:51 -0800 Message-ID: <1389982551.51872.YahooMailNeo@web140404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: 52D82A00.1020209@gmail.com --===============1775238295833436088== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --1100272424-1189192330-1389982551=3D:51872 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6=3D0A= =3D0AA=3D ssaf mentioned the following which is true.=3D0AYou can make ovirtmgmt a no= n-=3D VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then placeas many VM, tagged networks as y= =3D ou'd like on the same NIC or bond.=3D0A=3D0AI tried a few things and I have= n't =3D been able to find a way through.=3DA0 Obviously or not, there are more fact= s/=3D rules.=3DA0 Just put up a few of them here=3D0A=3D0ACannot have more than o= ne non=3D -VLAN network on one interface=3D0A=3D0ACannot have a non-VLAN VM network a= nd V=3D LAN-tagged networks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLA= =3D N-tagged VM network on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).=3D0A= =3D =3D0AI'll try to test adding a bond0..=3DA0 I need to have=3D0Abond0 = - for =3D both mgmt network and a vlan=3D0Abond1 - for another subnet.=3D0A=3D0AWill= =3D0A=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AOn Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo = Lorier wrote:=3D0A =3D0AHi William,=3D0A=3D0AYou can have seve= ral logica=3D l networks on the same interface. If=3D0Aovirtmgmt is not a vm network you = ca=3D n even mix tagged and untagged=3D0Anetworks (if not, you can't mix). You do= n'=3D s have to do anything besides=3D0Acreating the logical networks in ovirt an= d =3D assign them to the=3D0A interface,=3D0Aovirt takes care of creating the vir= tual=3D interfaces it needs.=3D0AWhat you can't do is have more than one logical n= et=3D work per vlan (I=3D0Athink there's a feature request on this, I know I've a= sk=3D ed it on the=3D0A=3D0Alist:-) ).=3D0ARegards, --1100272424-1189192330-1389982551=3D:51872 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Th= an=3D ks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6
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Assaf mentioned the following which is true= =3D .
You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then p= =3D lace
as many VM, tagged networks as you'd li= =3D ke on the same NIC or bond.

I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find= =3D a way through.  Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules.  J= =3D ust put up a few of them here

Can= no=3D t have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface

Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tag= =3D ged networks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagge= =3D d VM network on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).

I'll= =3D try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>.  I need to have
bond0 - f= =3D or both mgmt network and a vlan
bond1 - for another subnet.

Will<= =3D br id=3D3D"yiv5726770232yui_3_13_0_ym1_7_1389937140450_132" clear=3D3D"none= ">




On Thursday= , Janu=3D ary 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier <jplorier(a)gmail.com>=3D0A w= rote=3D :
Hi William,

You can have sev= eral=3D logical networks on the same interface. If
ovirtmgmt i= s =3D not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged
n= et=3D works (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides
creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the= =3D =3D0A interface,
ovirt takes care of creating the virtu= al i=3D nterfaces it needs.
What you can't do is have more than= o=3D ne logical network per vlan (I
think there's a feature = re=3D quest on this, I know I've asked it on the

list:-) ).Regards,



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boundary="===============2773399656241158881==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: William Kwan To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:38:30 -0800 Message-ID: <1389994710.81074.YahooMailNeo@web140401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: 1389982551.51872.YahooMailNeo@web140404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com --===============2773399656241158881== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --1892395897-1557863800-1389994710=3D:81074 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK..=3DA0=3DA0 tested with bond0.102 for vlan102=3D0AI guess I can't do thi= s with=3D oVirt?=3DA0 It wouldn't pickup this interface. It still shows up eth0, eth= 1 =3D and bond0 only=3D0A=3D0AWill=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AOn Friday, Januar= y 17, 2014 1:15 =3D PM, William Kwan wrote:=3D0A =3D0AThanks all for the = info. =3D I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6=3D0A=3D0AAssaf mentioned the fo= llow=3D ing which is true.=3D0AYou can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN)= n=3D etwork, then placeas many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC= =3D or bond.=3D0A=3D0AI tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a w= ay t=3D hrough.=3DA0 Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules.=3DA0 Just put up= a f=3D ew of them here=3D0A=3D0ACannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one = inte=3D rface=3D0A=3D0ACannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks o= n on=3D e interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on th= =3D e same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).=3D0A=3D0AI'll try to test add= ing =3D a bond0..=3DA0 I need to have=3D0Abond0 - for both mgmt network and a= vla=3D n=3D0Abond1 - for another subnet.=3D0A=3D0AWill=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D= 0A=3D0AOn Thursday, =3D January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier wrote:= =3D0A =3D =3D0AHi William,=3D0A=3D0AYou can have several logical networks on the same= inter=3D face. If=3D0Aovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and unta= gg=3D ed=3D0Anetworks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besi= de=3D s=3D0Acreating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the=3D0A in= terf=3D ace,=3D0Aovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs.=3D0A= What=3D you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I=3D0Athink t= he=3D re's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the=3D0A=3D0Alist:-= ) ).=3D =3D0ARegards, --1892395897-1557863800-1389994710=3D:81074 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK..   tested with bond0.102 for vlan102
I guess= =3D I can't do this with oVirt?  It wouldn't pickup this interface. It st= =3D ill shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only

Will



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On= Frida=3D y, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan <potatok(a)yahoo.com> wrote= :<=3D br>
Thanks all for the in= fo=3D . I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6

Assaf mentioned the following which is true.
You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (n= =3D on-VLAN) network, then place
as many VM, t= ag=3D ged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond.

I tried a few things and I haven't bee= n =3D able to find a way through.  Obviously or not, there are more facts/ru= =3D les.  Just put up a few of them here

Cannot have more than one non-VLAN n= et=3D work on one interface

Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged netw= =3D orks on one interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM net= =3D work on the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).
<=3D br clear=3D3D"none">I'll try to test adding a bond0.<vlan>.  I n= ee=3D d to have
bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan
bond1 - for another subnet.

Will


=
= On Th=3D ursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier <jplorier(a)gmail.co= m&=3D gt;=3D0A wrote:
Hi William,

You = can =3D have several logical networks on the same interface. If
o=3D virtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged
networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything= b=3D esides
creating the logical networks in ovirt and assig= n =3D them to the=3D0A interface,
ovirt takes care of creatin= g th=3D e virtual interfaces it needs.
What you can't do is hav= e =3D more than one logical network per vlan (I
think there's= a=3D feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the

l= ist:=3D -) ).
Regards,



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MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:45:15 +0200 Message-ID: <52D9A46B.6090202@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1389994710.81074.YahooMailNeo@web140401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com --===============5546824155758934607== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote: > OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 > I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this interface. > It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via a = logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work)? > > Will > > > > On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan w= rote: > Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6 > > Assaf mentioned the following which is true. > You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then place > as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond. > > I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way through. > Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a few of them > here > > Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface > Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one > interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on > the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network). > > I'll try to test adding a bond0.. I need to have > bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan > bond1 - for another subnet. > > Will > > > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier > wrote: > Hi William, > > You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If > ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged > networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides > creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface, > ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. > What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I > think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the > > list:-) ). > Regards, > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > --===============5546824155758934607==-- From potatok at yahoo.com Fri Jan 17 17:05:23 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3956673299246240893==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: William Kwan To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 14:05:22 -0800 Message-ID: <1389996322.6770.YahooMailNeo@web140402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: 52D9A46B.6090202@redhat.com --===============3956673299246240893== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --1085140594-336845930-1389996322=3D:6770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried to define a virtual interface for vlan102, by =3D0A=3D0A=3DA0=3DA0= =3DA0 addin=3D g ifcfg-bond0.102=3D0A=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 manually and restarted network servic= es.=3D0A=3D =3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A=3D0AOn Friday, January 17, 2014 4:45 PM, Itamar Heim <= iheim(a)redh=3D at.com> wrote:=3D0A =3D0AOn 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote:=3D0A> = OK..=3D =3DA0 tested with bond0.102 for vlan102=3D0A> I guess I can't do this with= oVi=3D rt?=3DA0 It wouldn't pickup this interface.=3D0A> It still shows up eth0, e= th1 =3D and bond0 only=3D0A=3D0Ayou tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or = use =3D a vlan via a =3D0Alogical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which sho= ul=3D d work)?=3D0A=3D0A=3D0A>=3D0A> Will=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A> On Friday, Janu= ary 17, 2014 1:1=3D 5 PM, William Kwan wrote:=3D0A> Thanks all for the in= fo. =3D I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6=3D0A>=3D0A> Assaf mentioned the= fol=3D lowing which is true.=3D0A> You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-= VL=3D AN) network, then place=3D0A> as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on = th=3D e same NIC or bond.=3D0A>=3D0A> I tried a few things and I haven't been abl= e to=3D find a way through.=3D0A> Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules.=3D= A0 J=3D ust put up a few of them=3D0A> here=3D0A>=3D0A> Cannot have more than one n= on-VLA=3D N network on one interface=3D0A> Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN= -t=3D agged networks on one=3D0A> interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VL= AN=3D -tagged VM network on=3D0A> the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network).= =3D =3D0A>=3D0A> I'll try to test adding a bond0..=3DA0 I need to have=3D= 0A> bond=3D 0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan=3D0A> bond1 - for another subnet.=3D0A= >=3D0A=3D > Will=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A> On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM,= Juan Pabl=3D o Lorier=3D0A> wrote:=3D0A> Hi William,=3D0A>=3D0A> = You can ha=3D ve several logical networks on the same interface. If=3D0A> ovirtmgmt is no= t =3D a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged=3D0A> networks (if not, y= ou=3D can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides=3D0A> creating the logic= al=3D networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface,=3D0A> ovirt takes care= o=3D f creating the virtual interfaces it needs.=3D0A> What you can't do is have= m=3D ore than one logical network per vlan (I=3D0A> think there's a feature requ= es=3D t on this, I know I've asked it on the=3D0A>=3D0A> list:-) ).=3D0A> Regards= ,=3D0A>=3D =3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A>=3D0A> ________________________________= ______________=3D _=3D0A> Users mailing list=3D0A> Users(a)ovirt.org=3D0A> http://lists.ovirt= .org/mai=3D lman/listinfo/users=3D0A=3D0A> --1085140594-336845930-1389996322=3D:6770 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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> On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, Willia= m =3D Kwan <potatok(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
&=3D gt; Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6>
> Assaf mentioned the followi= ng w=3D hich is true.
> You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, unt= ag=3D ged (non-VLAN) network, then place
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> I trie= d a =3D few things and I haven't been able to find a way through.
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> Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged network= s =3D on one
> interface. ( got this when I tried to drag = a =3D VLAN-tagged VM network on
> the same interface as th= e =3D non-VLAN VM network).
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> I'l= l tr=3D y to test adding a bond0.<vlan>.  I need to have
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> Hi William,
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> networks (if not, you can't mix). Y= ou=3D don's have to do anything besides
> creating the lo= gi=3D cal networks in ovirt and assign them to the interface,
&=3D gt; ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs.
> What you can't do is have more than one logical network pe= r =3D vlan (I
> think there's a feature request on this, I= k=3D now I've asked it on the
>
> = list=3D :-) ).
> Regards,

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Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0163690234918593681==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 00:06:41 +0200 Message-ID: <52D9A971.8040707@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: 1389996322.6770.YahooMailNeo@web140402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com --===============0163690234918593681== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/18/2014 12:05 AM, William Kwan wrote: > I tried to define a virtual interface for vlan102, by > adding ifcfg-bond0.102 > manually and restarted network services. why not via ovirt-engine? > > > > > On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:45 PM, Itamar Heim wro= te: > On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote: > > OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 > > I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this interface. > > It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only > > you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via a > logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work)? > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan > wrote: > > Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6 > > > > Assaf mentioned the following which is true. > > You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then pla= ce > > as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond. > > > > I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way through. > > Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a few of th= em > > here > > > > Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface > > Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one > > interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on > > the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network). > > > > I'll try to test adding a bond0.. I need to have > > bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan > > bond1 - for another subnet. > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier > > > wrote: > > Hi William, > > > > You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If > > ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged > > networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besides > > creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the interfac= e, > > ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. > > What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I > > think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the > > > > list:-) ). > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > --===============0163690234918593681==-- From polfilm at gmail.com Sat Jan 18 09:52:17 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5857693590152736204==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Peter Styk To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:52:15 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 52D9A971.8040707@redhat.com --===============5857693590152736204== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i need to sync it..... I will keep trying, Thanks for the tips. P. On 17 January 2014 22:06, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 01/18/2014 12:05 AM, William Kwan wrote: > >> I tried to define a virtual interface for vlan102, by >> adding ifcfg-bond0.102 >> manually and restarted network services. >> > > why not via ovirt-engine? > > >> >> >> >> On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:45 PM, Itamar Heim >> wrote: >> On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote: >> > OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 >> > I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this interfac= e. >> > It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only >> >> you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via a >> logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work)? >> >> >> > >> > Will >> > >> > >> > >> > On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan > > wrote: >> > Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with 3.3.2-1.el6 >> > >> > Assaf mentioned the following which is true. >> > You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) network, then >> place >> > as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or bond. >> > >> > I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way through. >> > Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a few of >> them >> > here >> > >> > Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface >> > Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks on one >> > interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM network on >> > the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network). >> > >> > I'll try to test adding a bond0.. I need to have >> > bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan >> > bond1 - for another subnet. >> > >> > Will >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier >> > > wrote: >> > Hi William, >> > >> > You can have several logical networks on the same interface. If >> > ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and untagged >> > networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do anything besid= es >> > creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to the >> interface, >> > ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. >> > What you can't do is have more than one logical network per vlan (I >> > think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked it on the >> > >> > list:-) ). >> > Regards, >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Users mailing list >> > Users(a)ovirt.org >> > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> > >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users > --===============5857693590152736204== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" PGRpdiBkaXI9Imx0ciI+U28gSSBnb3Qgb3ZpcnRtZ210IFZNIHRpY2tlZCBvZmYuIEhhZCB0byBy 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PC9kaXY+PC9ibG9ja3F1b3RlPjwvZGl2Pjxicj48L2Rpdj4K --===============5857693590152736204==-- From iheim at redhat.com Sat Jan 18 12:12:01 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4491460764105287543==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Itamar Heim To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:11:56 +0200 Message-ID: <52DAB5DC.7060400@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: CAFhxTcx4K_UXb7UXBqiKad0c59C73+hwAX+_8011h+b2TUY4tA@mail.gmail.com --===============4491460764105287543== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote: > So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then > tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused > since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I > lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I > guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead > and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that > works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM > network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i > need to sync it..... this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps? > > I will keep trying, Thanks for the tips. > P. > > > > > > On 17 January 2014 22:06, Itamar Heim > wrote: > > On 01/18/2014 12:05 AM, William Kwan wrote: > > I tried to define a virtual interface for vlan102, by > adding ifcfg-bond0.102 > manually and restarted network services. > > > why not via ovirt-engine? > > > > > > On Friday, January 17, 2014 4:45 PM, Itamar Heim > > wrote: > On 01/17/2014 11:38 PM, William Kwan wrote: > > OK.. tested with bond0.102 for vlan102 > > I guess I can't do this with oVirt? It wouldn't pickup this > interface. > > It still shows up eth0, eth1 and bond0 only > > you tried to define a vlan youself on the bond, or use a vlan via= a > logical network over the bond via ovirt-engine (which should work= )? > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > On Friday, January 17, 2014 1:15 PM, William Kwan > > >> wrote: > > Thanks all for the info. I'm trying the suggestions with > 3.3.2-1.el6 > > > > Assaf mentioned the following which is true. > > You can make ovirtmgmt a non-VM, untagged (non-VLAN) > network, then place > > as many VM, tagged networks as you'd like on the same NIC or > bond. > > > > I tried a few things and I haven't been able to find a way > through. > > Obviously or not, there are more facts/rules. Just put up a > few of them > > here > > > > Cannot have more than one non-VLAN network on one interface > > Cannot have a non-VLAN VM network and VLAN-tagged networks > on one > > interface. ( got this when I tried to drag a VLAN-tagged VM > network on > > the same interface as the non-VLAN VM network). > > > > I'll try to test adding a bond0.. I need to have > > bond0 - for both mgmt network and a vlan > > bond1 - for another subnet. > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:50 PM, Juan Pablo Lorier > > > >> wrot= e: > > Hi William, > > > > You can have several logical networks on the same interface. = If > > ovirtmgmt is not a vm network you can even mix tagged and > untagged > > networks (if not, you can't mix). You don's have to do > anything besides > > creating the logical networks in ovirt and assign them to > the interface, > > ovirt takes care of creating the virtual interfaces it needs. > > What you can't do is have more than one logical network per > vlan (I > > think there's a feature request on this, I know I've asked > it on the > > > > list:-) ). > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > > Users mailing list > > Users(a)ovirt.org > > > > http://lists.ovirt.org/__mailman/listinfo/users > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/__mailman/listinfo/users > > > --===============4491460764105287543==-- From polfilm at gmail.com Sat Jan 18 16:56:50 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6767839019670980136==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Peter Styk To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:56:48 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 52DAB5DC.7060400@redhat.com --===============6767839019670980136== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim wrote: > On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote: > >> So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then >> tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused >> since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I >> lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I >> guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead >> and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that >> works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM >> network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i >> need to sync it..... >> > > this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps? Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed here: http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png. Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out. Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the only configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing missing on the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC address of physical eth0 device. Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install and then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC ovirtmgmt on host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working I destroy default cluster and create new local one. Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but entire setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild entire setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who would like to benefit from my findings can use this script and gain access to my host and learn with me on how to overcome this. Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the files: ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, ovrit_answers and route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, localinstall ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set hostname, then after reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso folders, install ovrit-engine, set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=3D1, restart-network, and run engine-setup with ovirt_answers including cli and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rules still prevent connection if on. that's it. working system in 15 mins still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine with vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24 Peter --===============6767839019670980136== Content-Type: text/html MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="attachment.html" 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MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jplorier at gmail.com To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 23:31:31 -0200 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: CAFhxTcwTzEB1KkamsvEfgBsAQKiaY6KwDEkzFsJ+Mik_pUs+1w@mail.gmail.com --===============5288818726393414633== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, Try to check if ovirmgmt is defined in the vlan you desire (or without vlan). Maybe when you sync ovirt is trying to configure the network with options different from what you desire. I never got ovirt to finish properly to install a host, it fails to get ovirtmgmt working right so I always manually configure the vlan interfaces and the ovirtmgmt bridge in the hosts. You can get your host back if you manually correct the network, also you may take a look of what ovirt configured to try to find out if something is not set properly in the network definition. Regards El ene 18, 2014 7:56 PM, "Peter Styk" escribi=C3=B3: > > > On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim wrote: > >> On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote: >> >>> So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then >>> tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused >>> since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I >>> lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I >>> guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead >>> and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that >>> works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM >>> network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i >>> need to sync it..... >>> >> >> this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps? > > > Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing > Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed here: > http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png. > Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out. > > Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the > only configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing > missing on the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC > address of physical eth0 device. > > Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install > and then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC ovirtmg= mt > on host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working I destroy > default cluster and create new local one. > > Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but > entire setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild > entire setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who would > like to benefit from my findings can use this script and gain access to my > host and learn with me on how to overcome this. > > Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the files: > ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, ovrit_answers and > route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, localinstall > ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set hostname, then after > reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso folders, install ovrit-engine, > set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=3D1, restart-network, and run engine-se= tup > with ovirt_answers including cli and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rul= es > still prevent connection if on. that's it. working system in 15 mins > > still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine with > vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as > router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24 > > Peter > > --===============5288818726393414633== Content-Type: text/html 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system stability might get worse due to the new feature "multi host network configuration" which applies logical network changes to the entire DC's hosts. ----- Original Message ----- > From: jplorier(a)gmail.com > To: "Peter Styk" > Cc: "William Kwan" , "users" > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2014 3:31:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network > = > = > = > Hi Peter, > = > Try to check if ovirmgmt is defined in the vlan you desire (or without vl= an). > Maybe when you sync ovirt is trying to configure the network with options > different from what you desire. I never got ovirt to finish properly to > install a host, it fails to get ovirtmgmt working right so I always manua= lly > configure the vlan interfaces and the ovirtmgmt bridge in the hosts. You = can > get your host back if you manually correct the network, also you may take= a > look of what ovirt configured to try to find out if something is not set > properly in the network definition. > Regards > El ene 18, 2014 7:56 PM, "Peter Styk" < polfilm(a)gmail.com > escribi=C3= =B3: > = > = > = > = > = > On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim < iheim(a)redhat.com > wrote: > = > = > = > On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote: > = > = > So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's then > tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refused > since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's how I > lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's it I > guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network goes dead > and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual way that > works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a VM > network. And even if its not to get another network on the interface i > need to sync it..... > = > this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps? > = > Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing > Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed here: > http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_working.png= . > Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out. > = > Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the = only > configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing missing= on > the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC address of > physical eth0 device. > = > Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install = and > then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC ovirtmgmt on > host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working I destroy > default cluster and create new local one. > = > Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but enti= re > setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild entire > setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who would like = to > benefit from my findings can use this script and gain access to my host a= nd > learn with me on how to overcome this. > = > Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the files: > ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, ovrit_answers and > route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, localinstall > ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set hostname, then after > reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso folders, install ovrit-engine, > set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=3D1, restart-network, and run engine-se= tup > with ovirt_answers including cli and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rul= es > still prevent connection if on. that's it. working system in 15 mins > = > still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine with > vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as > router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24 > = > Peter > = > = > _______________________________________________ > Users mailing list > Users(a)ovirt.org > http://lists.ovirt.org/mailman/listinfo/users >=20 --===============0672348639795155991==-- From lvernia at redhat.com Sun Jan 19 11:00:21 2014 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1665831579981048540==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Lior Vernia To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [Users] vlan on mgmt network Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:00:14 +0200 Message-ID: <52DBF68E.4050304@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: CAFhxTcwTzEB1KkamsvEfgBsAQKiaY6KwDEkzFsJ+Mik_pUs+1w@mail.gmail.com --===============1665831579981048540== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Peter, Sorry for being late to the party. I hope you and William are working on the same deployment so I'll be responding to both of you. On 18/01/14 23:56, Peter Styk wrote: > = > = > On 18 January 2014 17:11, Itamar Heim > wrote: > = > On 01/18/2014 04:52 PM, Peter Styk wrote: > = > So I got ovirtmgmt VM ticked off. Had to remove it from all VM's > then > tried to add new Logical network to eth0 by drag & drop but refus= ed > since ovirtmgmt was out of sync. So I synced it. ....and that's > how I > lost access to my hosted remote system. End of story. So that's i= t I > guess, automated install doesn't work (during switch network > goes dead > and doesn't come back remote access is lost) so I found manual > way that > works. But then I need to sync it to get my ovirtmgmt not to be a= VM > network. And even if its not to get another network on the > interface i > need to sync it..... > = So basically what you're saying is that switching the management network to non-VM while it is provisioned on hosts, then trying to synchronize it, leads to loss of connection? We'll need to have a look. > = > this sounds like a bug - can you provide clear reproduction steps? > = > = > Reproduction steps are in network configuration alone. After installing > Engine, i have to set up network to the config listed > here: http://styk.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/oVirtHosted1_almost_worki= ng.png. > Unfortunately can't rely on engine-vdsm duo to help out. > = > Anything above the host line on the diagram is physical setup and is the > only configuration that doesn't disconnect me from the net. Only thing > missing on the diagram is ifcfg-eth0 has also HWADDR attribute with MAC > address of physical eth0 device. > = > Once this survives service network restart I can proceed to VDSM install > and then its straight forward....that is until I'm trying to SYNC > ovirtmgmt on host inside. I should mention after ovirt engine is working > I destroy default cluster and create new local one. > = > Obviously I cannot access logs since access to host is no longer but > entire setup is scripted including provisioning so I can easily rebuild > entire setup within 15 or so minutes by running a script. Anyone who > would like to benefit from my findings can use this script and gain > access to my host and learn with me on how to overcome this. >From the above information I understand that you are still in the initial stages of installation and are not scared of starting anew. If that is the case, I would suggest that you do start from a clean DC again. Try to configure the management network as non-VM prior to adding any host, then add the hosts. As far as I know, this should provision the network correctly on the hosts to begin with (it should work when synchronizing it as well, but let's try this way and see if it works better). > = > Script will provision the host (fresh os install), log in, get the > files: ifcfg-eth0, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt, ifcfg-ovirtmgmt-range0, > ovrit_answers and route-ovirtmgmt, then install epel 6-8, install pgp, > localinstall ovirt-el6.10-1. install bridge-utils, upgrade, set > hostname, then after reboot ssh alive, set local data,images,iso > folders, install ovrit-engine, set ipv4 forwarding and proxy_arp=3D1, > restart-network, and run engine-setup with ovirt_answers including cli > and stop iptables as engine and vdsm rules still prevent connection if > on. that's it. working system in 15 mins = > = > still to do is engine-api calls to create local cluster, join engine > with vdsm local and setup private network with pfSense instance as > router/nat/dhcp for 10.0.0.0/24 > = > Peter >=20 --===============1665831579981048540==--