From tgamull at redhat.com Wed Dec 21 14:36:57 2016 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2647876058766713173==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Tom Gamull To: users at ovirt.org Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Windows Product Activation Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 09:36:54 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: 76ca0ba6-4894-28a0-2b21-463c07affbe3@ecarnot.net --===============2647876058766713173== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --Apple-Mail=3D_35C6AD02-B681-47D7-A574-05865EDDA0F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8 Under Edit Virtual Machine -> System -> (Advanced Parameters) there is a = =3D Custom CPU Type you may be able to set, are all the hosts in the same =3D cluster? Tom Gamull > On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Nicolas Ecarnot =3D wrote: >=3D20 > Tom, >=3D20 > Thank you for answering. >=3D20 > Le 21/12/2016 =3DC3=3DA0 14:47, Tom Gamull a =3DC3=3DA9crit : >> Something is triggering the activation that windows is detecting as a >> change in hardware. >=3D20 > Our DCs are made of hosts from 3 different models, so chances are that = =3D windows is detecting a different CPU ID or something (that is a pity, as = =3D I thought all this was hidden to the guest) >=3D20 >> I=3DE2=3D80=3D99ve not had this problem on 2012 or past versions, >=3D20 > It may be true that we only encountered these issues on 2008 R2 =3D guests. >=3D20 >> you=3DE2=3D80=3D99ll usually encounter it when changing the hardware =3D drivers (such as >> converting from physical to virtual). Generally you want to install >> compatible drivers (like the ovirt windows guest tools). >=3D20 > Every guests here is installed with oVirt guest tools. > Since then, we made no driver change, neither on hosts nor guests. >=3D20 >> A good >> practice though is to snapshot before you make a change such as =3D drivers >> in case you need to set the activation key. >> For Desktops in VDI when you use a gold image, you generally make a >> snapshot before activation - see here for an answer >> - =3D https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/25c4c85c-c8a9-4316-8bfa-= =3D d3b7848e6dc6/microsoft-vdi-collections-and-activation?forum=3D3Dwinserver8s= e=3D tup >=3D20 > I'm not sure this was relevant. >=3D20 >> what kind of activation keys are you using? >=3D20 > Further readings lead me to think that the kind of key IS the main =3D reason I'm facing this. >=3D20 >> Do you have KMS server? >=3D20 > No. I was told to be very prudent with using KMS servers, so not =3D planned. >=3D20 > --=3D20 > Nicolas ECARNOT --Apple-Mail=3D_35C6AD02-B681-47D7-A574-05865EDDA0F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dutf-8 Under Edit Virtual Machine -> System -> (Advanced =3D Parameters) there is a Custom CPU Type you may be able to set, are all =3D the hosts in the same cluster?

Tom Gamull

On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Nicolas Ecarnot <nicolas(a)ecarnot.net<= /a>>=3D wrote:

Tom,

Thank you for answering.=

Le 21/12/2016 =3DC3=3DA0 14:47, Tom Gamull a = =3D =3DC3=3DA9crit :
S= omething =3D is triggering the activation that windows is detecting as a
change in hardware.

Our DCs are made of hosts from 3 different models, so chances = =3D are that windows is detecting a different CPU ID or something (that is a = =3D pity, as I thought all this was hidden to the guest)

I=3DE2=3D80=3D99ve no= t had =3D this problem on 2012 or past versions,

It may be true that we only encountered these issues on 2008 = =3D R2 guests.

you=3DE2=3D80=3D99ll usually encounter it when changing the = =3D hardware drivers (such as
converting from physical to =3D virtual).  Generally you want to install
compatible = =3D drivers (like the ovirt windows guest tools).

Every guests here is installed = =3D with oVirt guest tools.
Since then, we made no driver =3D change, neither on hosts nor guests.

A good
practice though is to snapshot before you make a change such = =3D as drivers
in case you need to set the activation key.
For Desktops in VDI when you use a gold image, you generally = =3D make a
snapshot before activation - see here for an =3D answer
- https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/25c4c85c-c8a= 9=3D -4316-8bfa-d3b7848e6dc6/microsoft-vdi-collections-and-activation?forum=3D3D= w=3D inserver8setup

I'm not = =3D sure this was relevant.

what kind of activation keys are you using?

Further readings lead me to thin= k =3D that the kind of key IS the main reason I'm facing this.
Do you have  KM= S =3D server?

No. I was told to be = =3D very prudent with using KMS servers, so not planned.

--
Nicolas ECARNOT

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