On Nov 3, 2017 13:48, "FERNANDO FREDIANI" <fernando.frediani@upx.com> wrote:
+1 for complete diskless hosts
-1 for mobile usability over desktop :-)

That was mentioned as one motivation, but as I've explained earlier it is definitely not the main one. 

Regards, 
Oved 


Regards
Fernando


On 02/11/2017 20:46, Arman Khalatyan wrote:
I just tested the new 4.2, looks new shiny UI, thanks.

I would like to join to Jiris statement, ovirt should become more
stable, clean and useful.
The right or left clicks  or UI designs, mobile friendly or not,those
futures are the secondary tasks for me.
For those who would like to manage the vms from the mobile devices
they can use mOvirt app.
I wish that the development team will concentrate on the main
advertised futures to make them stable.
as a user I wish that the following points can make it stronger:
- please make a ovirt as a  FULL HA solution
- one of the weak points of the ovirt is a spm, this should go away in
the first point, not the right click one:).
- hosts management like a foreman, but without foreman.
- strong solution with a multirail HA storage
- move hosts complete to disk-less infrastructure, easy to scale-up
- scheduled backup solution integrated in the gui/api
- reasonable reports,( similar like dwd in 3.6)
Most of the points are almost done, but we have always hire or there
half-solved problems.


Greetings from Potsdam,
Arman.

PS
an Ovirt user since 3.x
8hosts >50Vms
4hosts > 6VMS
10G,IB,RDMA.
looking to deploy ovirt on a cluster environment on user demand.

On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Jiří Sléžka <jiri.slezka@slu.cz> wrote:
On 10/31/2017 06:57 PM, Oved Ourfali wrote:
As mentioned earlier, this is one motivation but not the only one. You
see right click less and less in web applications, as it isn't
considered a good user experience. This is also the patternfly guideline
(patternfly is a framework we heavily use throughout the application).

We will however consider bringing this back if there will be high demand.
I'm using right click time to time, but for me is much more important
clean, simple and compatible UI. Especially if this means it will be
possible to simple select and copy any text or log messages from UI.
This is my biggest pain when interacting with manager.

Cheers, Jiri

Thanks for the feedback!
Oved

On Oct 31, 2017 7:50 PM, "Darrell Budic" <budic@onholyground.com
<mailto:budic@onholyground.com>> wrote:

     Agreed. I use the right click functionality all the time and will
     miss it. With 70+ VMs, I may check status in a mobile interface, but
     I’m never going to use it for primary work. Please prioritize ease
     of use on Desktop over Mobile!


     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
     *From:* FERNANDO FREDIANI <fernando.frediani@upx.com
     <mailto:fernando.frediani@upx.com>>
     *Subject:* Re: [ovirt-users] [ANN] oVirt 4.2.0 First Beta Release
     is now available for testing
     *Date:* October 31, 2017 at 11:59:20 AM CDT
     *To:* users@ovirt.org <mailto:users@ovirt.org>


     On 31/10/2017 13:43, Alexander Wels wrote:
     Will the right click dialog be available in the final release?
     Because,
     currently in 4.2 we need to go at the up right corner to
     interact with
     object (migrate, maintenance...)

     Short answer: No, we removed it on purpose.

     Long answer: No, here are the reasons why:
     - We are attempting to get the UI more mobile friendly, and while
     its not 100%
     there yet, it is actually quite useable on a mobile device now.
     Mobile devices
     don't have a right click, so hiding functionality in there would
     make no
     sense.
     Please don't put mobile usage over Desktop usage. While mobile
     usage is nice to have in "certain" situations. In real day by day
     operation nobody uses mobile devices to do their deployments and
     manage their large environments. If having both options where you
     can switch between then is nice, but if something should prevail
     should always be Desktop. We are not talking about a Stock Trading
     interface or something you need that level or flexibility and
     mobility to do static things anytime anywhere.

     So I beg you to consider well before remove things which are
     pretty useful for a day by day and real management usage because
     of a new trend or buzz stuff.
     Right click is always on popular on Desktop enviroments and will
     be for quite a while.
     - You can now right click and get the browsers menu instead of
     ours and you
     can do things like copy from the menu.
     - We replicated all the functionality from the menu in the
     buttons/kebab menu
     available on the right. Our goal was to have all the commonly
     used actions as
     a button, and less often used actions in the kebab to declutter
     the interface.
     We traded an extra click for some mouse travel
     - Lots of people didn't realize there even was a right click menu
     because its
     a web interface, and they couldn't find some functionality that
     was only
     available in the right click menu.

     Now that being said, we are still debating if it was a good move
     or not. For
     now we want to see how it plays out, if a lot of people want it
     back, it is
     certainly possible we will put it back.

     that is something you are interested in. Its also much faster
     and better
     than before.

     On 31/10/2017 10:13, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
     The oVirt Project is pleased to announce the availability of
     the First
     Beta Release of oVirt 4.2.0, as of October 31st, 2017


     This is pre-release software. This pre-release should not to
     be used
     in production.

     Please take a look at our community page[1] to learn how to ask
     questions and interact with developers and users.All issues
     or bugs
     should be reported via oVirt Bugzilla[2].

     This update is the first beta release of the 4.2.0 version. This
     release brings more than 230 enhancements and more than one
     thousand
     bug fixes, including more than 380 high or urgent severity
     fixes, on
     top of oVirt 4.1 series.


     What's new in oVirt 4.2.0?

       *
             The Administration Portalhas been completely
     redesigned using
          Patternfly, a widely adopted standard in web application
     design.
          It now features a cleaner, more intuitive design, for an
     improved
          user experience.
          *
             There is an all-new VM Portalfor non-admin users.
          *
             A new High Performance virtual machinetype has been
     added to the
          New VM dialog box in the Administration Portal.
          *
             Open Virtual Network (OVN)adds support for Open
     vSwitch software
          defined networking (SDN).
          *
             oVirt now supports Nvidia vGPU.
          *
             The ovirt-ansible-rolespackage helps users with common
          administration tasks.
          *
             Virt-v2vnow supports Debian/Ubuntu based VMs.

     For more information about these and other features, check
     out the
     oVirt 4.2.0 blog post
     <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/
     <https://ovirt.org/blog/2017/09/introducing-ovirt-4.2.0/>>.


     This release is available now on x86_64 architecture for:

     * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later

     * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later


     This release supports Hypervisor Hosts on x86_64 and ppc64le
     architectures for:

     * Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.4 or later

     * CentOS Linux (or similar) 7.4 or later

     * oVirt Node 4.2 (available for x86_64 only)


     See the release notes draft [3] for installation / upgrade
     instructions and a list of new features and bugs fixed.


     Notes:

     - oVirt Appliance is already available.

     - An async release of oVirt Node will follow soon.


     Additional Resources:

     * Read more about the oVirt 4.2.0 release highlights:
     http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>

     * Get more oVirt project updates on Twitter:
     https://twitter.com/ovirt

     * Check out the latest project news on the oVirt blog:
     http://www.ovirt.org/blog/


     [1] https://www.ovirt.org/community/
     <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>
     <https://www.ovirt.org/community/
     <https://www.ovirt.org/community/>>

     [2]
     https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>
     <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt
     <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?classification=oVirt>>

     [3] http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>
     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/
     <http://www.ovirt.org/release/4.2.0/>>

     [4] http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
     <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>
     <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/
     <http://resources.ovirt.org/pub/ovirt-4.2-pre/iso/>>


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