On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 8:51 PM Michael Jones <mj@mikejonesey.co.uk> wrote:

On 18/08/2020 17:58, Nir Soffer wrote:

it does sound as if, my problems are around the fact that i am using an
all-in-one box, (host and engine all in one);

https://www.ovirt.org/download/alternate_downloads.html

This explains how that you can install all-in-one when engine is a VM
running on the single host, not as a program running on the host.

Let's clarify the terminology first. I admit we are not always super-clear
about this.

- Standalone engine - Engine is running on some machine, which it does
not manage by itself. Normally, this is a physical machine, but can be
a VM managed by something else (virsh/virt-manager, another ovirt engine,
vmware/virtualbox/hyperv/xen, etc.).

- Hosted-engine - An engine that is running in a VM, that runs inside
a host, that this engine manages. If it sounds like a chicken-and-egg
problem, it indeed is... See documentation and some presentation slides
on the website for the architecture, if interested.

- All-In-One - a Standalone engine that also manages, as a host, the
machine on which it runs. This used to have official support in the
past, in terms of code helping to implement it (in engine-setup):

https://www.ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/integration/allinone.html

As above page states, this is long gone. However, over the years,
people did report successes in doing this manually - install and
setup an engine, then add it to itself. I agree it would be nice to
keep it working, and the discussion below indeed clarifies that it's
currently broken, but this is definitely very low priority IMO. The
official answer to the question "How can I setup oVirt on a single
machine?" is: Use Hosted-engine with gluster, a.k.a HCI.

from the link you shared, the status is;

Current status

• Included since 3.1
• Deprecated since 3.6.0
• Removed since 4.0.0

I think there should be a warning that the install is deprecated, traversing;

- https://www.ovirt.org/
- https://www.ovirt.org/download/ (download button)
- https://www.ovirt.org/download/alternate_downloads.html (Alternate download options)

There is no warning the method was deprecated and will be missing functionality.

The steps detailed on the alt install page are for the all-in-one running engine-setup.

It's also worth noting this works fine in;