HI Oved,

I removed them forcefully...but yes i have seen that some of the VM cant shutdown and even can not poweroff...then i manually suspend >> poweroff >> removed....

But it's strange in 3.5....in 3.4 in any how if you press poweroff button on the VM...the VM was poweroff...but in 3.5 even i press poweroff on the shutdown stuck VM....poweroff also can not powerdown the VM...

Thanks,
punit

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Oved Ourfali <ovedo@redhat.com> wrote:
VMs are considered external, when they are running on the host, but not known to the engine.
You shouldn't be able to remove a running VM, so either the shutdown failed, or there was some other issue that led to that.
Can you attach the engine.log and the relevant host vdsm.log?

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Punit Dambiwal" <hypunit@gmail.com>
> To: users@ovirt.org
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 5:02:55 AM
> Subject: [ovirt-users] Strange External Vm's
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> Hi,
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> I have upgraded ovirt 3.4 to 3.5 ...now whenever i removed any VM...ovirt
> created some strage external vm's...
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